Low Carb (no carb) diet help??
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Recently, my friend has gone on a low carb diet and has lost 4 pounds in a week without any excersise! I'm thinking of doing the same thing, but I don't want to starve myself/treat my body unhealthily in any way I just want to lose weight healthily. Has anyone ever tried this kind of diet and what results should I actually expect (I want to lose 20 lbs)
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Keep in mind that you lose a lot of water weight the first week of any plan, so that may be a lot of what your friend has lost. I generally try to eat lower carb, only because my body responds pretty well to that. (when I eat sugar and carbs my belly bloats like no ones business) It's possible to lose a lot of weight this way, but you would have to see for yourself. It definitely is not unhealthy, as your body can create it's own carbs to run systems on, but it will leave you a little foggy and tired for the first couple of weeks as your body becomes adapted to using fat as fuel.
All that said, if you are going to do any type of "diet" I would treat it more of a reset than a plan. If you love your carbs and there's no way you can sustain this type of plan forever you will gain back what you lose. It's just the nature of the beast. Try to find something that will be sustainable for you. Low carb works well for me, but again try it out for yourself.3 -
Your friend has lost mostly water weight.....not fat. Google glycogen stores. This is why people (mistakenly) believe low carb diets are fast weight loss. Yes, your friend will lose some fat too (just like any other reduced calorie diet).
Lowering your CALORIES is how we lose weight. You can eliminate carbs or just eat smaller portions of food you like. Both methods will work.
Yes, I have tried this type of diet and lost weight. HOWEVER, losing weight is just the first step. You have to also figure out how to keep the weight you do lose off. I had no intention of eating low carb forever. Low carb taught me nothing about my (bad) eating habits. I gained the weight back.
Also, forget zero carb....that's not healthy, even vegetables have carbs.
The ideal diet to me helps me lose weight AND gives me information about my eating habits. Learning about what I need to "fix" will help me keep the weight off.
No one has to exercise to lose weight. Fostering a new habit of moving more will help me keep the weight off.5 -
You can expect to lose up to 1% of your total body weight per week, regardless of method, if you do everything right.5
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I think you'd be better off eating no processed/boxed/packaged foods. Like no chips, crackers, bread... At least that way you are still eating a balance diet with lean meats, healthy fats, fruits & vegetables. I think saying no or ultra low carb will get you to lose weight, but what's the point of being miserable for 6 months just to gain it back because you go back to eating the way you did before you started dieting. Weight loss is about lifestyle change, not a diet with an end date or goal weight. I wish it was just losing weight, it would be so much easier.1
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Congratulations to your friend - he/she lost four pounds of water and glycogen in a week, which is normal on low-carb diets.
You don't need to eat low/no carbs to lose weight, and you won't lose weight any faster on such a diet. All you need to do is eat less calories than you burn on a consistent basis.1 -
My friend lost 30 pounds on a low carb diet...and has since gained it all back.
Now, I completely support people who are low carb for medical reasons, but people who don't have that extra incentive and don't plan to stick to it are just asking for trouble.4 -
I lost fifty lbs on low carb and have kept it off for over three years. I, personally, find it effortless and a wonderful way to eat. That said, most of the four lbs your friend lost is water; she won't continue losing at that rate unless she is starving herself with too few calories. The 20 lbs you have to lose will take time no matter which way you go about it.
Low carb is not unhealthy; it is as healthy or unhealthy as you choose to make it, just like any other eating style. If you want to try it, you certainly can. I'd suggest doing some serious reading up on low carb diets and how to avoid common pitfalls. Then, if you think the foods will appeal to you, give it a try. Who knows? You may end up liking it and decide to eat that way forever (like me). Or you may hate it and decide to move on to something else.9 -
I just want to say I am doing low carb (between 60 and 90grams a day)..and cutting down carbs is what works best for me ..the thing you have to remember is low carbs IS a very good way to lose weight but the reason why a lot of people do it is pretty obvious..carbs are extremely calorie dense and when you start cutting them down you will lose weight/fat because it's much much easier to stay within a calorie deficit (calories in vs calories out is what is important) ..when you cut down on carbs you can eat more because there are less calories in proteins and healthy fats ..so yes do low carb if that is what your body responds to ..it works because it frees up calories0
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Recently, my friend has gone on a low carb diet and has lost 4 pounds in a week without any excersise! I'm thinking of doing the same thing, but I don't want to starve myself/treat my body unhealthily in any way I just want to lose weight healthily. Has anyone ever tried this kind of diet and what results should I actually expect (I want to lose 20 lbs)
Keep in mind that most of that loss is water...one hallmark of a low carb diet is fast, initial water/glycogen losses...I suppose this could give some motivation but just be aware that it will ultimately slow down and over time, it's shown to be as effective for weight loss as anything else.
Also be aware that it is a pretty restrictive diet...people who do this eat high fat, moderate protein, and keep their carbs under 50 grams. Being as restrictive as it is I would suggest doing some research and reading up on this to see what you can and can't eat to see if it's something that would be right for you. I've tried in the past and just couldn't do it and hated eating that way...just eating a bunch of fat made me feel like crap.0 -
fitness4thought1982 wrote: »I just want to say I am doing low carb (between 60 and 90grams a day)..and cutting down carbs is what works best for me ..the thing you have to remember is low carbs IS a very good way to lose weight but the reason why a lot of people do it is pretty obvious..carbs are extremely calorie dense and when you start cutting them down you will lose weight/fat because it's much much easier to stay within a calorie deficit (calories in vs calories out is what is important) ..when you cut down on carbs you can eat more because there are less calories in proteins and healthy fats ..so yes do low carb if that is what your body responds to ..it works because it frees up calories
I'll start by saying that I, too, do LCHF. I'm a big believer in it - I lost 50 lbs that way and kept it off for three years now. That said, no, "healthy fats" are not less calorie dense than carbs. All fats contain 9 calories per gram, while carbs and protein contain appx 4 cal per gram. For me low carb works because I find fats and proteins to be much more satiating than carbs so I can create a deficit without going hungry. But satiety is subjective. For every person like myself who finds a few eggs cooked in butter to be a filling satisfying meal that keeps them free from hunger for hours on end, there is someone else who would be unsatisfied with that meal. Maybe they do better with volume and would favor trading out a yolk or two for a heaping helping of veggies to bulk up an omlet. Or maybe they need fiber to fill them and would do better with oatmeal and berries. Either way it is all about the deficit and how you get there is not super important.
I will acknowledge that I have traded out calorie dense carbs (starches like potatoes and pasta) for less calorie dense carbs (fiberous foods like leafy greens and crucifirous veggies) and that definitely makes a difference! But fat is always higher calorie, gram for gram, than carbs.
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fitness4thought1982 wrote: »I just want to say I am doing low carb (between 60 and 90grams a day)..and cutting down carbs is what works best for me ..the thing you have to remember is low carbs IS a very good way to lose weight but the reason why a lot of people do it is pretty obvious..carbs are extremely calorie dense and when you start cutting them down you will lose weight/fat because it's much much easier to stay within a calorie deficit (calories in vs calories out is what is important) ..when you cut down on carbs you can eat more because there are less calories in proteins and healthy fats ..so yes do low carb if that is what your body responds to ..it works because it frees up calories
Fat is more calorie dense than carbs...so this doesn't really make sense...but beyond that, when you cut out a whole macro group, you're in most cases going to reduce calories by default...3 -
I have lost weight successfully (40+ lbs.) with a low carb diet. For me the hard part was keeping it off, which is why I ended up having to do it more than once. I got very tired of eating mostly meat, cheese and eggs and really missed things like whole grains and fruit. This time around I'm doing a more balanced way of eating even though I know it probably won't be as quick as low carb was for me. Sometimes it's easier to 'just say no' than to do 'everything in moderation' if you aren't good at being moderate.
Look at the list of allowed foods and those that are not allowed and see if they fit the way you like to eat. Too drastic a change probably won't be sustainable over the long term, and losing weight is really all about the long term. Yes, you can drop a lot of water weight in the first week or two, but that isn't fat. Losing weight always comes down to a calorie deficit in the end. Low carb does that by removing all sugar, processed foods and high carb foods from your diet. Can you live with that?3 -
I am doing low carb, but I think the major benefit for me is the mental clarity, and the calming effect on my emotions.... I also have much less pain, I used to suffer from headaches due to a surgery I had three years ago... inflammation is gone at the site.
I love creamy food, so it suits my taste [preferences also... I don't think I am losing weight any faster (than any calorie controlled diet) except the initial shedding of water... (but I love that that water is gone I had puffy wrists and ankles now they look healthy.2 -
There is nothing inherently wrong with any method of eating if you are hitting your calorie goal (being in a deficit). Your friend has lost mainly water weight which will appear back when she eats some carbs.2
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Any fad diet is unlikely to give you any problems for the first four to six weeks. But going on a diet should be an opportunity to change your eating habits to healthier options for life. If you don't like vegetables, fruit, grains, pulses, nuts or dairy and feel you can exist without carbohydrate you can try. But it leaves you with a pretty bland and unbalanced diet.
Perhaps your friends are thinking about cutting out refined carbs - cakes, sweets, deserts, soft drinks. That's a very good idea. Any calorie restriction will see you lose weight. I'd opt for balance in my diet. There is no benefit to your diet in cutting out a whole food group - so why make life more difficult than it needs to be?0 -
Vegplotter wrote: »Perhaps your friends are thinking about cutting out refined carbs - cakes, sweets, deserts, soft drinks. That's a very good idea.
Why? You can eat all those things, remain in a calorie deficit and lose weight.3 -
You can still eat vegetables, nuts and dairy on low carb. Also the carb range varies from person to person on "low carb". I tried "keto" for a month and found it to be too strict for my preference.Vegplotter wrote: »Any fad diet is unlikely to give you any problems for the first four to six weeks. But going on a diet should be an opportunity to change your eating habits to healthier options for life. If you don't like vegetables, fruit, grains, pulses, nuts or dairy and feel you can exist without carbohydrate you can try. But it leaves you with a pretty bland and unbalanced diet.
Perhaps your friends are thinking about cutting out refined carbs - cakes, sweets, deserts, soft drinks. That's a very good idea. Any calorie restriction will see you lose weight. I'd opt for balance in my diet. There is no benefit to your diet in cutting out a whole food group - so why make life more difficult than it needs to be?
I'm doing 16:8 Intermittent Fasting with Low Carb for lunch and moderate carb for dinner (small potato or low 1/2 cup glycemic pasta or rice for example). The low carb lunch keeps me from craving food between meals.
I'm eating the small amount (dinner) of starchy veggie along with green and low calorie high fiber vegetables plus protein which keeps my blood sugar levels even.
You could try LCHF out, but it is no better for losing weight in the long run than any other plan if it doesn't produce satiety for you. On the other hand, if you do tend to get hunger or cravings it might blunt your appetite and help you create a deficit.
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Join the Low Carber Daily MFP group. There are thousands of low carbers and keto'ers there who have had great success eating this way while losing, and improving their health.
For some, especially those with insulin resistance, which ends up being a fairly large portion of heavy people, eating LCHF can be a more effective way to lose weight. Yes, you will lose some water weight early on but of those 4lbs lost by your friend, I'm guessing only 2lbs is from water, at the most. If it happens to be more, that's okay too. That's a few pounds of bloating that is gone, and will remain gone as long as one eats LCHF.
I've been doing keto for about a year and a half. It helped me lose 2-3 lbs per week while eating at a small to moderate caloric deficit. No exercise. It improved my health by a fair bit so I am committed to eating LCHF for life. Higer carb diets may taste good but it isn't worth how it makes me feel. Besides, meat, veggies, dairy, eggs, and nuts all taste good too. I'm not missing much.
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spiriteagle99 wrote: »I have lost weight successfully (40+ lbs.) with a low carb diet. For me the hard part was keeping it off, which is why I ended up having to do it more than once. I got very tired of eating mostly meat, cheese and eggs and really missed things like whole grains and fruit. This time around I'm doing a more balanced way of eating even though I know it probably won't be as quick as low carb was for me. Sometimes it's easier to 'just say no' than to do 'everything in moderation' if you aren't good at being moderate.
Look at the list of allowed foods and those that are not allowed and see if they fit the way you like to eat. Too drastic a change probably won't be sustainable over the long term, and losing weight is really all about the long term. Yes, you can drop a lot of water weight in the first week or two, but that isn't fat. Losing weight always comes down to a calorie deficit in the end. Low carb does that by removing all sugar, processed foods and high carb foods from your diet. Can you live with that?
This is really what it's all about. You have to find a method that works for you-long term. The weight loss phase is for a relatively short period of time (few months to a couple of years usually). Maintenance is for 20, 30, 40+ years, and that's where most people fail. OP focus on the big picture-what's sustainable for you, long term? What kinds of foods do you enjoy eating? Start there and you'll have a better chance of being one of the few who do succeed at this whole wacky thing
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You can still eat vegetables, nuts and dairy on low carb. Also the carb range varies from person to person on "low carb". I tried "keto" for a month and found it to be too strict for my preference.Vegplotter wrote: »Any fad diet is unlikely to give you any problems for the first four to six weeks. But going on a diet should be an opportunity to change your eating habits to healthier options for life. If you don't like vegetables, fruit, grains, pulses, nuts or dairy and feel you can exist without carbohydrate you can try. But it leaves you with a pretty bland and unbalanced diet.
Perhaps your friends are thinking about cutting out refined carbs - cakes, sweets, deserts, soft drinks. That's a very good idea. Any calorie restriction will see you lose weight. I'd opt for balance in my diet. There is no benefit to your diet in cutting out a whole food group - so why make life more difficult than it needs to be?
I'm doing 16:8 Intermittent Fasting with Low Carb for lunch and moderate carb for dinner (small potato or low 1/2 cup glycemic pasta or rice for example). The low carb lunch keeps me from craving food between meals.
I'm eating the small amount (dinner) of starchy veggie along with green and low calorie high fiber vegetables plus protein which keeps my blood sugar levels even.
You could try LCHF out, but it is no better for losing weight in the long run than any other plan if it doesn't produce satiety for you. On the other hand, if you do tend to get hunger or cravings it might blunt your appetite and help you create a deficit.
You are absolutely right low carb does cover a multitude of different diets. But I'm always very wary of people thinking that low carb/high fat is a sensible long term strategy. (Without huge caveats).0 -
Join the Low Carber Daily MFP group. There are thousands of low carbers and keto'ers there who have had great success eating this way while losing, and improving their health.
I suggest you check out the following main low-carber daily forum group here in MFP. It's where most of us Ketophiles tend to hang out:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/discussions/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-lcd-group
Like @nvmomketo above, I too follow a LCHF WOE. I don't call it a "diet" because for me it's a lifestyle. I successfully eliminated 165 pounds so your goal of 20 pounds is definitely attainable. I've been keto now for just over 26 months. I don't starve myself and never have so I'm not sure why you think you'd have to starve yourself on this WOE...? I switched over from weight-loss to weight-maintenance about the middle of this past July. So far I'm maintaining just fine and have moved on to the strength-training and toning up portion of my health journey. Find a WOE that works for you and stick with it. Whatever you decide, best of luck to you OP!4 -
To lose weight just eat at calorie deficit for you. If you only have 20 lbs to lose .5 -1 lb a week is more appropriate and healthy than expecting to lose 4 lbs a week.
Input your information into my fitness pal and you will get a calorie goal. Easy. Eat and log any food you want and stick to that calorie deficit. You will lose.
If you exercise log it and eat a portion of those calories as well.
You don't have to eat a particular diet. I feel it is most sustainable to mostly eat the way you normally eat and adjust portion sizes and add in more low calorie foods like vegetables.
Protein, fats and fiber can help you feel more satisfied.0 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »Recently, my friend has gone on a low carb diet and has lost 4 pounds in a week without any excersise! I'm thinking of doing the same thing, but I don't want to starve myself/treat my body unhealthily in any way I just want to lose weight healthily. Has anyone ever tried this kind of diet and what results should I actually expect (I want to lose 20 lbs)
Keep in mind that most of that loss is water...one hallmark of a low carb diet is fast, initial water/glycogen losses...I suppose this could give some motivation but just be aware that it will ultimately slow down and over time, it's shown to be as effective for weight loss as anything else.
Also be aware that it is a pretty restrictive diet...people who do this eat high fat, moderate protein, and keep their carbs under 50 grams. Being as restrictive as it is I would suggest doing some research and reading up on this to see what you can and can't eat to see if it's something that would be right for you. I've tried in the past and just couldn't do it and hated eating that way...just eating a bunch of fat made me feel like crap.cwolfman13 wrote: »Recently, my friend has gone on a low carb diet and has lost 4 pounds in a week without any excersise! I'm thinking of doing the same thing, but I don't want to starve myself/treat my body unhealthily in any way I just want to lose weight healthily. Has anyone ever tried this kind of diet and what results should I actually expect (I want to lose 20 lbs)
Keep in mind that most of that loss is water...one hallmark of a low carb diet is fast, initial water/glycogen losses...I suppose this could give some motivation but just be aware that it will ultimately slow down and over time, it's shown to be as effective for weight loss as anything else.
Also be aware that it is a pretty restrictive diet...people who do this eat high fat, moderate protein, and keep their carbs under 50 grams. Being as restrictive as it is I would suggest doing some research and reading up on this to see what you can and can't eat to see if it's something that would be right for you. I've tried in the past and just couldn't do it and hated eating that way...just eating a bunch of fat made me feel like crap.cwolfman13 wrote: »Recently, my friend has gone on a low carb diet and has lost 4 pounds in a week without any excersise! I'm thinking of doing the same thing, but I don't want to starve myself/treat my body unhealthily in any way I just want to lose weight healthily. Has anyone ever tried this kind of diet and what results should I actually expect (I want to lose 20 lbs)
Keep in mind that most of that loss is water...one hallmark of a low carb diet is fast, initial water/glycogen losses...I suppose this could give some motivation but just be aware that it will ultimately slow down and over time, it's shown to be as effective for weight loss as anything else.
Also be aware that it is a pretty restrictive diet...people who do this eat high fat, moderate protein, and keep their carbs under 50 grams. Being as restrictive as it is I would suggest doing some research and reading up on this to see what you can and can't eat to see if it's something that would be right for you. I've tried in the past and just couldn't do it and hated eating that way...just eating a bunch of fat made me feel like crap.
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I don't think that a steady 2lb a week weight loss since February is water. Neither is this diet restrictive: i can eat meat, including bacon, sausages, liver and other organ meats, game, fish and sea food, dairy including lots of cheese (parmesan, cheddar, mozzarella, cream, etc), nuts, seeds, vegetables, fruit. I can make a pizza, cookies, cakes, muffins, etc. I can eat cream, mayo, bpc, coconut and olive oil, butter, avocados. I have gall bladder problems but this sort of good fat doesn't cause me any discomfort. I eat 30 grams total carbs every day.3
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Women do not do as well on low-carb diets. I did a low-carb diet and lost weight but developed adrenal/thyroid problems. That resolved after I added back some carbs. Eat healthy vegetables and occasional low-sugar fruits too so that you do not stress your body or develop carb sensitivities. Drink plenty of water if you are going the meat, egg, cheese version of low-carb.0
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Women do not do as well on low-carb diets. I did a low-carb diet and lost weight but developed adrenal/thyroid problems. That resolved after I added back some carbs. Eat healthy vegetables and occasional low-sugar fruits too so that you do not stress your body or develop carb sensitivities. Drink plenty of water if you are going the meat, egg, cheese version of low-carb.
You may not do well on low carb but other women may ..you can't extrapolate your specific experience to a gender just because you're that gender
Choose the option that suits you and that you can stick to
I am not a low carber, it doesn't work for me either but it does for some, irrespective of gender4 -
Women do not do as well on low-carb diets. I did a low-carb diet and lost weight but developed adrenal/thyroid problems. That resolved after I added back some carbs. Eat healthy vegetables and occasional low-sugar fruits too so that you do not stress your body or develop carb sensitivities. Drink plenty of water if you are going the meat, egg, cheese version of low-carb.
I don't believe this generalization is true. Is this your personal opinion or is it based upon something that we could look at as well? Thanks.0 -
Women do not do as well on low-carb diets. I did a low-carb diet and lost weight but developed adrenal/thyroid problems. That resolved after I added back some carbs. Eat healthy vegetables and occasional low-sugar fruits too so that you do not stress your body or develop carb sensitivities. Drink plenty of water if you are going the meat, egg, cheese version of low-carb.
I don't believe this generalization is true. Is this your personal opinion or is it based upon something that we could look at as well? Thanks.
I'm not sure if we can really generalize, but I also noticed that people who experience problems on low carb seem to be mostly women. I guess they are more sensitive to hormones' changes.
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Im on a high carb vegan diet....Carbs arent the enemy. Its all the processed crap often found in high carb food. Focus on eating more naturally whole food and youll be better off any happier thn just cutting out an entire energy source. Carbs are fuel.-1
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