Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead: Joe Cross Juice Diet

amandadrsg
amandadrsg Posts: 23 Member
edited September 29 in Health and Weight Loss
http://www.fatsickandnearlydead.com/

So the boyfriend and I watched the documentary on this the other night on Netflix. He's decided to give it a go, and as support I'm going to do a 10 day juice fast.

Has anyone else done this juice diet? I'm researching the snot out of it, but would like some first-hand opinions on it.
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  • bigislandgrrl
    bigislandgrrl Posts: 196 Member
    I just watched this yesterday as well! I found it to be very interesting! Let us know how he does! :smile:
  • JennsLosing
    JennsLosing Posts: 1,026
    i was actually going to watch that last night, then i ended up watching Babies, another documentary. tehe, it was cute.
  • JennsLosing
    JennsLosing Posts: 1,026
    i was actually going to watch that last night, then i ended up watching Babies, another documentary. tehe, it was cute.
  • Gut2Glam
    Gut2Glam Posts: 15
    I'd rather get my calories from healthy food, but that's my opinion.
  • Athena413
    Athena413 Posts: 1,709 Member
    I'd rather get my calories from healthy food, but that's my opinion.

    Ummm...what's unhealthy about whole fruits and vegetables? It's not store bought juice...he juices it all on his own.
  • ak_in_ak
    ak_in_ak Posts: 657 Member
    I watched it this weekend and I have started by replacing breakfast and sometimes dinner. My main concern is the extreme lack of protein! when it comes down to it why not give it a try, it won't hurt you and I bet it will help cut any cravings you might have.
  • Athena413
    Athena413 Posts: 1,709 Member
    http://www.fatsickandnearlydead.com/

    So the boyfriend and I watched the documentary on this the other night on Netflix. He's decided to give it a go, and as support I'm going to do a 10 day juice fast.

    Has anyone else done this juice diet? I'm researching the snot out of it, but would like some first-hand opinions on it.

    There is another thread here on MFP called "Fat, Sick, and Nearly Dead" and there are some people on there that are doing it. Also, check out their facebook page...lots of people trying it on there, plus juice recipes, tips, FAQ's, etc...

    My husband and I are considering trying it, but are weighing the costs first.
  • TDGee
    TDGee Posts: 2,209 Member
    Has anyone else done this juice diet? I'm researching the snot out of it, but would like some first-hand opinions on it.

    I'm thinking snot will not be what you get out of it...
  • agleckle
    agleckle Posts: 235 Member
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  • Athena413
    Athena413 Posts: 1,709 Member
    I watched it this weekend and I have started by replacing breakfast and sometimes dinner. My main concern is the extreme lack of protein! when it comes down to it why not give it a try, it won't hurt you and I bet it will help cut any cravings you might have.

    Our bodies actually don't need as much protein as we think it does...but a lot of vegetables are pretty high in protein. Beans and spinach are good sources. Also, if you can find spirulina anywhere, it has MASSIVE amounts of protein in it. It's basically algae. You can find it in tablet form at most health food stores and a lot of Asian markets have it fresh.
  • Heather75
    Heather75 Posts: 3,386 Member
    Has anyone else done this juice diet? I'm researching the snot out of it, but would like some first-hand opinions on it.

    I'm thinking snot will not be what you get out of it...
    I do not care for snot.
  • Shakinhips
    Shakinhips Posts: 9 Member
    My boyfriend and I are on day 5 of this diet. So far he is down 10lbs and I have lost 6lbs. We are doing the 10 day thing as well. It really hasn't been too bad honestly! The most challenging time for us has been at night. But, just make sure you drink enough juice throughout the day and you should be fine! Good luck with it!!
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,027 Member
    Not to be the negative one here, but since it's a public forum and many people will take advice because others are touting results, the reality is that liquid diets are temporary fixes. Yeah it's 10 days, but really all that's being done here is VLCD. Introducing solid foods back into your diet will definitely put some of that weight loss back on.
    When your body is flooded by liquid, it will release it just as fast as it takes it in. So the majority of the weight is water weight.
  • lil_missfit
    lil_missfit Posts: 565 Member
    I don't see a problem with doing it for 10 days. You'll probably feel GREAT afterwords!!! Post on the rsults once u finish...i.e. how you felt before during and after and weight loss. I am very interested to know more about this first hand. Thx for sharing!!!
  • Athena413
    Athena413 Posts: 1,709 Member
    Not to be the negative one here, but since it's a public forum and many people will take advice because others are touting results, the reality is that liquid diets are temporary fixes. Yeah it's 10 days, but really all that's being done here is VLCD. Introducing solid foods back into your diet will definitely put some of that weight loss back on.
    When your body is flooded by liquid, it will release it just as fast as it takes it in. So the majority of the weight is water weight.

    While this is true, I didn't think that the sole purpose of this particular diet is to lose weight. Yes, you WILL lose weight, but the main focus is to retrain your body to crave fruits and vegetables and not all the processed crap that we normally crave. My concern with doing it for long term is that the weight you are losing would be muscle mass since you're not getting a lot of protein (unless you supplement the protein). Muscle is what makes you burn fat, so if you're depleting your muscle mass, you won't have as much to use to burn fat when you do start eating "normal" again and then you'll again be just as likely to gain the weight back and then some.
  • jienelle
    jienelle Posts: 29
    I'm doing a juice fast, day 4 out of 10 (at least). I drink a veggie/fruit juice from the AM-PM. Then for dinner I have a normal portioned sized dinner that is 90% plant based, 10% seafood, and use olive oil and/or sesame oil. I've cut out all processed foods, dyes, preservatives, etc. The reason I'm having a meal is so my body doesn't rebound after the fast and I (hopefully) will not gain all the weight I have lost. So far I've lost 4.2 lbs - and best of all I FEEL GREAT! I haven't had the urge for caffeine - which is huge for me and one of the main reasons I started. The juice is filling enough that I am not worrying about food. I also started because I want to eventually get to a mostly plant based diet and really needed a jump start to that goal.

    I plan to break the fast with a natural protein shake (banana, milk, real peanut butter, etc.) and start working out again after the 10 days...and then build up to eating again. I've never been much of a daytime eater anyway - I work 12 hour days, on my feet...so I may just stick to breakfast juices.
  • dboyle40
    dboyle40 Posts: 1
    My son and myself have been on itfor 5 days and I have so much energy.Im not hungry at all.I have lost 7 pounds and he has lost ten. i love this diet.
  • Lunachic77
    Lunachic77 Posts: 434 Member
    The guy who sits across from me at work is on day 3 of the juice fast...he's having a really hard time and i think he's going delirious. I watch him drinking his shake in the morning and I can see by the look on his face that he is in pure disgust. He actually looks hungry and his behavior is a little loopy. He rambles about burgers and stares blankly at his computer screen.

    I'm not sure this is a good thing and I'm just not an advocate for drinking juice for 10 days...it doesn't seem healthy and it seems like a real shocker to your system.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,027 Member
    One things for sure, it's a shock to the body's metabolism. Most of the scientific community will agree that "juicing" to detox is a myth. While removing foods that contain chemicals that you may be sensitive to will definitely help, your body is more than capable of regulating processed foods as long as you're getting your essentials, water, rest and exercise.
  • There are lot of myths out there about juicing and the ensuing weight loss not being sustainable.

    My name is Shane at the start of 2010 I weighed around 242 pounds and i decided I needed to make some changes in my life. I discovered juicing and running. At that stage I could not even run for 5 mins.

    Lets fast forward 18 months or so. I have lost over fifty pounds and its stayed off. I have also run two half marathons.

    You can see photographic evidence of my journey here http://www.runningonjuice.com/about/

    Of course its all dependent on the person. I know people who have juiced soiidly for 7 days, lost weight, returned to their old diet and put the weight on.

    Sure, everyone will find after a juice fast you will put a bit of weight back on, its only natural. However the real change is not the weight loss its how you feel. After my first 7 day juice fast I felt lighter, my mind was clearer, my energy levels were through the roof.

    I like Joe Cross's idea, he now 'reboots' his system every three months with a 15 day plan.

    There are many health and psychological benefits to juicing as long as you combine it with exercise and remain committed to its principles.
  • Avalonis
    Avalonis Posts: 1,540 Member
    Not to be the negative one here, but since it's a public forum and many people will take advice because others are touting results, the reality is that liquid diets are temporary fixes. Yeah it's 10 days, but really all that's being done here is VLCD. Introducing solid foods back into your diet will definitely put some of that weight loss back on.
    When your body is flooded by liquid, it will release it just as fast as it takes it in. So the majority of the weight is water weight.

    THIS. Totally.
  • Avalonis
    Avalonis Posts: 1,540 Member
    There are lot of myths out there about juicing and the ensuing weight loss not being sustainable.

    My name is Shane at the start of 2010 I weighed around 242 pounds and i decided I needed to make some changes in my life. I discovered juicing and running. At that stage I could not even run for 5 mins.

    Lets fast forward 18 months or so. I have lost over fifty pounds and its stayed off. I have also run two half marathons.

    You can see photographic evidence of my journey here http://www.runningonjuice.com/about/

    Of course its all dependent on the person. I know people who have juiced soiidly for 7 days, lost weight, returned to their old diet and put the weight on.

    Sure, everyone will find after a juice fast you will put a bit of weight back on, its only natural. However the real change is not the weight loss its how you feel. After my first 7 day juice fast I felt lighter, my mind was clearer, my energy levels were through the roof.

    I like Joe Cross's idea, he now 'reboots' his system every three months with a 15 day plan.

    There are many health and psychological benefits to juicing as long as you combine it with exercise and remain committed to its principles.

    Do you still juice all the time? What happens when it ends?
  • Avalonis
    Avalonis Posts: 1,540 Member
    Heres what I said about it in a previous post. My opinion still stands.
    Ok, crap like this pisses me off. It pisses me off because its a TERRIBLE IDEA. Its not sustainable! Sure, you go 60 days, you lose a TON of weight, and what then?

    You still haven't learned portion control, and you still haven't learned healthy eating. You've learned how to make a single shake. The same thing. Every day. (actually, they mix it up a little, but its still very structured, you eat only what they say)

    Honestly, who could do that their whole life? Statistically, people that go on these diets and stick through the whole program DO lose weight. But they don't keep it off! They balloon right back up!

    So you know whats changed when that's done? NOTHING except your starting weight. NOT A DARN THING. So in less than 2 years, you'll gain it all back!

    It's really sad, because people listen to crap like this and think "Oh my god, I can lose so much weight in just 60 days" and ultimately, it ends up being no healthier for them in the long run.

    In this particular "shake diet"s defense, they try to teach exercise as well... but if your nutrition isn't right, no matter what you do you aren't going to be healthy.

    Here is a good analogy - Its like when poor people win the lottery. Statistically, they are broke in less than 5 years. Because they haven't changed their spending habits, learned how to save money, or learned how to invest!

    Please people... I am begging you. Look at the statistics of programs like this before you waste years of your life bouncing back and forth between programs. It's for your own good.

    Note: This program is at least a vast improvement over most of the planned meals programs. They are trying to throw some exercise and SOME idea of food control, but its still not enough. Especially since they are getting rich off the people that buy it. >_< <--- that's my angry face.

    I know, this is my weight loss pet peeve...
  • greenmm25
    greenmm25 Posts: 175 Member
    in the documentary they say the first 3 days are the toughest but then it gets much better. I haven't tried it but really considering it, not to lose cause I am doing good on that now but to just cleanse and feel better.
  • @greenmm25 yeah the first 3 days are not fun, you may get headaches, you will feel hungry. I have to say though its all mental. The way to get through that hunger is to visualise everything that went into your juice. In truth you would struggle to 'eat' all that.

    I found by Day 3 or 4 my energy levels were through the roof. I slept like a baby! You feel tired earlier at night and the trick is to just to go to bed and not fight it.

    During those first few days the biggest challenge is friends and family who will attempt to pour scorn on what you are doing. Take a look at my photos, no gimmicks I juiced and as you can see I am in much better shape.

    @ Avalonis. I juice every day where possible. If I am not travelling then I will always make my own juice for breakfast. I get one good juice in a day. Every two to three months I do a 3-5 day juice 'fast'. I do this to recalibrate my system and to sync back into the juicing way of life. I really do not consider this a fad diet as long as you combine it with good exercise and sort out poor eating habits.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,027 Member
    There are lot of myths out there about juicing and the ensuing weight loss not being sustainable.

    My name is Shane at the start of 2010 I weighed around 242 pounds and i decided I needed to make some changes in my life. I discovered juicing and running. At that stage I could not even run for 5 mins.

    Lets fast forward 18 months or so. I have lost over fifty pounds and its stayed off. I have also run two half marathons.

    You can see photographic evidence of my journey here http://www.runningonjuice.com/about/

    Of course its all dependent on the person. I know people who have juiced soiidly for 7 days, lost weight, returned to their old diet and put the weight on.

    Sure, everyone will find after a juice fast you will put a bit of weight back on, its only natural. However the real change is not the weight loss its how you feel. After my first 7 day juice fast I felt lighter, my mind was clearer, my energy levels were through the roof.

    I like Joe Cross's idea, he now 'reboots' his system every three months with a 15 day plan.

    There are many health and psychological benefits to juicing as long as you combine it with exercise and remain committed to its principles.
    I would think that any type of fasting as long as you have the essential nutrients, minerals, protein and fats (carbs aren't essential) would have anyone feeling better.
    I find many of the fad diets to be nothing more than restrictive calorie intakes.
  • You do make a great point ninerbuff.

    Actually the calories per juice are quite high and its not full of chemicals like some of these shake diets that you see.

    My daily juice is:

    4 celery stalks, 2/3 apples, 6 kale leaves, slice of lemon, lump of ginger, 1 cucumber, I juice the lot and blend it with ice and some baby spinach.

    You can even add half an avocado to the blender if you want. Great protein source and it gives you more calories.

    If you juice for 7 days you will lose 7lbs+ I will agree this is too rapid a weight loss. However what it does do is motivate you. There is nothing worse then being very overweight, make big changes to your diet, start exercising and when it comes to the week you have barely lost half a pound.

    The 7 day juice programme i followed gave me real belief that this weight could be shifted, there is nothing better for motivation.
  • emmaleigh47
    emmaleigh47 Posts: 1,670 Member
    One things for sure, it's a shock to the body's metabolism. Most of the scientific community will agree that "juicing" to detox is a myth. While removing foods that contain chemicals that you may be sensitive to will definitely help, your body is more than capable of regulating processed foods as long as you're getting your essentials, water, rest and exercise.

    100% agree with this post and your earlier post. It does nothing to teach you portion control. The low protein actually will lead to muscle wasting... and for the people who said that they arent going to work out during it... uhh why would you STOP working out!

    I prefer to lose weight the slow healthy way ... a way that I can maintain without ridiculous effort for the rest of my life.
    And if you check out my ticker... its clearly working!
  • Dtho5159
    Dtho5159 Posts: 1,054 Member
    Smh.. I don't get why everyone is posting about these "fad diets" They won't do you any good in the long run so why bother? After 10 days of this and no working out, the minute you put solid food back into your body and start working out, you will gain it all back so what exactly did you accomplish? I have a lot of weight left to lose but as I told my doctor "slow and steady wins the race" and he agrees. Im losing slowly and healthy and will keep it off when I get to my goal because I didn't buzz right thru it. Ive lost nearly 50lb doing what Ive been doing so obviously Im doing something right!
  • emmaleigh47
    emmaleigh47 Posts: 1,670 Member
    Smh.. I don't get why everyone is posting about these "fad diets" They won't do you any good in the long run so why bother? After 10 days of this and no working out, the minute you put solid food back into your body and start working out, you will gain it all back so what exactly did you accomplish? I have a lot of weight left to lose but as I told my doctor "slow and steady wins the race" and he agrees. Im losing slowly and healthy and will keep it off when I get to my goal because I didn't buzz right thru it. Ive lost nearly 50lb doing what Ive been doing so obviously Im doing something right!

    and THIS is why I am glad you are my friend! :)
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