Fast metabolism diet
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jetphan1969 wrote: »Just read through all of the comments and was surprised to see all of the negative comments about this diet. Its working really well in my case and I'm down a total of 8lbs in 10 days. It's funny how some people are only interested in negative comments and imposing their thoughts on something that they havent even tried. After I reach my goal I will continue to follow the basics of this diet.
8 lbs in 10 days is not fat loss. Mostly water and waste being eliminated.
The negative comments are because this is not really different than any of the other elimination diets out there. There is a short term loss, but it is unsustainable. Too many people here have been there and done that already.3 -
How long were you on the diet?0
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8lbs in 10 days is going to be mainly water.2
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This is just an elimination diet that provides the end user a calorie deficit. The "fast metabolism" portion of the name is 100% there for marketing.2
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This is just an elimination diet that provides the end user a calorie deficit. The "fast metabolism" portion of the name is 100% there for marketing.
This.
The negative comments you're seeing are from people who have learned from experience that falling for marketing isn't a sustainable path to lasting weight loss.2 -
jetphan1969 wrote: »Just read through all of the comments and was surprised to see all of the negative comments about this diet.Its working really well in my case and I'm down a total of 8lbs in 10 days.It's funny how some people are only interested in negative comments and imposing their thoughts on something that they havent even tried.
To the bolded:
Do I have to try cocaine or heroin in order to tell my kids that drugs are bad for them? Do I have to try deathcap mushrooms in order to know that I will die from eating them?
No one is imposing their thoughts on anyone. You came onto a public forum asking for thoughts on a diet book. A book that is based on pseudoscience. You wanted vailidation, you didn't get it. If you don't like it then move on. Pseudoscience is genreally shot down on this site, which is a good thing, prevents most lurkers and newbies from making the same mistakes others have made.10 -
Tacklewasher wrote: »jetphan1969 wrote: »Just read through all of the comments and was surprised to see all of the negative comments about this diet. Its working really well in my case and I'm down a total of 8lbs in 10 days. It's funny how some people are only interested in negative comments and imposing their thoughts on something that they havent even tried. After I reach my goal I will continue to follow the basics of this diet.
8 lbs in 10 days is not fat loss. Mostly water and waste being eliminated.
The negative comments are because this is not really different than any of the other elimination diets out there. There is a short term loss, but it is unsustainable. Too many people here have been there and done that already.
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jetphan1969 wrote: »Just read through all of the comments and was surprised to see all of the negative comments about this diet. Its working really well in my case and I'm down a total of 8lbs in 10 days.jetphan1969 wrote: »It's funny how some people are only interested in negative comments and imposing their thoughts on something that they havent even tried..jetphan1969 wrote: »After I reach my goal I will continue to follow the basics of this diet.2
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trigden1991 wrote: »8lbs in 10 days is going to be mainly water.
This. And some muscle, too.
That equates to 28,000 calories less than maintenance in 10 days. That is a 2,800 calorie deficit per day.
That physically impossible unless your maintenance is much higher than 2,800 calories, which is likely not the case unless you are morbidly obese or a very muscular and active athlete.1 -
I read the first part of this book. Luckily, I don't remember much about it - just that she obviously either had no clue what she was talking about, or that she was intentionally lying to/misleading readers.
Likely both. That's the standard template for this type of scam. People who write these books have a marketing focus first and foremost. The "fitness and health" part is just the tool they chose.
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Pseudoscience is genreally shot down on this site, which is a good thing, prevents most lurkers and newbies from making the same mistakes others have made.
I wanted to comment on this.
I have to say (and I've said it before) that I was very nervous what I was getting into when I joined here. There is so much BS out there with regards to weight loss, and I was worried I'd have to fight through it to get to reality.
I am so happy that this board does have the focus it does on what is really going on and that woo gets called out so quickly and effectively. I am so glad that science and fact is the norm here.
I know many view it as mean, or even bullying. But I rarely see the poster attacked, just the information and opinions in their posts.
I like it here.
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Tacklewasher wrote: »Pseudoscience is genreally shot down on this site, which is a good thing, prevents most lurkers and newbies from making the same mistakes others have made.
I wanted to comment on this.
I have to say (and I've said it before) that I was very nervous what I was getting into when I joined here. There is so much BS out there with regards to weight loss, and I was worried I'd have to fight through it to get to reality.
I am so happy that this board does have the focus it does on what is really going on and that woo gets called out so quickly and effectively. I am so glad that science and fact is the norm here.
I know many view it as mean, or even bullying. But I rarely see the poster attacked, just the information and opinions in their posts.
I like it here.
Indeed. It's a nice change from the "one weird trick" clickbait articles, the Dr. Oz snake-oil peddling, and the multitude of books out there that swear they have the One True Way to losing weight.2 -
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jetphan1969 wrote: »Just read through all of the comments and was surprised to see all of the negative comments about this diet. Its working really well in my case and I'm down a total of 8lbs in 10 days. It's funny how some people are only interested in negative comments and imposing their thoughts on something that they havent even tried. After I reach my goal I will continue to follow the basics of this diet.
All this diet is doing is cutting calories...just like any other diet...that's the basic tenent of any diet plan. Great if this is what you need to do and want to do...but it's not some magical thing that is kick starting your metabolism or anything...that's all people are saying...you're just cutting calories whether you realize that or not. There is no actual science behind the diet..."fast metabolism" is just the marketing vehicle.2 -
The doctor I work with, who is slim, and his wife, who is also slim, started this diet. They both have lost about 10 pounds over the past few weeks. He also told his cholesterol improved. When I was talking to his wife it sounded like lots of vegetables and lean protein, but she wasn't eating gluten or dairy. I encouraged her to take a calcium supplement and make sure to get a DEXA scan to make sure her bones are strong.
I think it is very gimmicky but it seems to be working for him. As long as it is sustainable, promotes portion control, lots of vegetables, fruit, lean protein, healthy fats (nuts, avocado) and it works for you, I say go for it.
It's important to repeat that ALL of their short-term improvements are due to CICO and have absolutely nothing to do with this "diet".
Losing weight can be as much about psychology as anything else and the human capacity for self-BS is infinite. I understand that people can be motivated by different things, and if a "diet" is not inherently harmful and it motivates someone to start making healthier choices, I don't really care that much. Quite frankly, it doesn't make any difference because the chances of long-term success with these diets are about the same as winning the lotto.
But people need to know that, even if not totally harmful, these types of plans are worthless and usually counterproductive in the long run. It is intellectually dishonest to even promote the idea of a "fast metabolism" diet, since such a thing cannot exist in any sustainable form.
To say a plan is "working" after a few weeks is also dishonest because any "success" is not due to the the "plan", but due to transiently improved adherence to portion control. And fluid shifts. Treating any "diet plan" as legitimate just perpetuates this ridiculous falsehood. Giving credibility to people like this is like walking through life with a "Kick Me" sign on your back.
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jetphan1969 wrote: »Just read through all of the comments and was surprised to see all of the negative comments about this diet. Its working really well in my case and I'm down a total of 8lbs in 10 days. It's funny how some people are only interested in negative comments and imposing their thoughts on something that they havent even tried. After I reach my goal I will continue to follow the basics of this diet.
Since you only seem to be willing to take advice from people who have "tried" the diet, I'll chime in. I did a 30 day round and lost about 15 or so pounds and did a few weeks here or there after that. I sure wish I could get back the time and money and lost social life I lost to that diet (and many more like it). The diet is overly restrictive with lots of insane, arbitrary rules that as others have pointed out, have no basis in science. Sure, it's great to add more lean meats, fruits and vegetables to your diet period. But why can't you have broccoli on Wednesday but you can on Friday??? Does that make sense in any universe? And now that the diet has gotten more popular, she's become an expert at "fixing" all kinds of imaginary issues people have with her cleanses & Burn plans. Necessary? Nope, just another way to scam desperate people into paying for things they don't need.
Yes, I lost weight (lots of it was water weight, a bit of it was fat). But guess what, I've lost another 30 pounds since then simply counting calories. I've never once felt like I was on a diet, didn't have to lock myself away for a month because I can't have a drink or eat anything with an ounce of fat Monday-Thursday, can eat the things I enjoy when I want them, don't have to spend 30 minutes packing up all my food just to go to work, etc. I could go on and on. I'm not trying to be negative, I promise. This diet WILL work for you because it causes a calorie deficit (sometimes a bit of an extreme one). But I wish so very much I had realized sooner that it doesn't have to be so complicated...I doesn't even have to be hard. Set MFP to lose x pounds per week and meet your calorie allotment with foods that satisfy you both physically and emotionally. Eat fruits and vegetables to your hearts content (but don't feel bad about having a cup of coffee, a cocktail or a cookie once in a while). You'll find that's a much better plan for LONG TERM success.10 -
Also, success in the weightloss is measured in years, not weeks.3
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WARNING!!!!! you are not speeding up your metabolism by changing your nutrition on the short run,-
you are reducing your Sugar intake on this diet and your Body has an energy Deficit.
When you reduce your caloric intake, your body gets its needed energy by releasing and utilizing its stores of glycogen, which is a type of carbohydrate found in the muscles and the liver. Glycogen holds onto water, so when glycogen is used and burned up for energy, it also releases the water it holds onto. This is about 4 grams for every gram of glycogen. This results in the initial "water weight" loss that accompanies early weight loss from dieting and calorie restriction.
you are defineteley NOT losing so much Fat within one week, you are actually detoxing, you will feel lighter and will feel more enrgetic and "clean"
A drastic change in diet can actually slow down you metabolism in the long run.
Please be aware,- nobody who sells a Nutrition Product or diet plan wants you to lose weight and stay slim.
They want you to come back...again ...and again....and again.
They earn more money that way.
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Tacklewasher wrote: »Pseudoscience is genreally shot down on this site, which is a good thing, prevents most lurkers and newbies from making the same mistakes others have made.
I wanted to comment on this.
I have to say (and I've said it before) that I was very nervous what I was getting into when I joined here. There is so much BS out there with regards to weight loss, and I was worried I'd have to fight through it to get to reality.
I am so happy that this board does have the focus it does on what is really going on and that woo gets called out so quickly and effectively. I am so glad that science and fact is the norm here.
I know many view it as mean, or even bullying. But I rarely see the poster attacked, just the information and opinions in their posts.
I like it here.
This is a very refreshing post... please stick around. I like what I've seen so far from your comments.1 -
hanksmom79 wrote: »jetphan1969 wrote: »Just read through all of the comments and was surprised to see all of the negative comments about this diet. Its working really well in my case and I'm down a total of 8lbs in 10 days. It's funny how some people are only interested in negative comments and imposing their thoughts on something that they havent even tried. After I reach my goal I will continue to follow the basics of this diet.
Since you only seem to be willing to take advice from people who have "tried" the diet, I'll chime in. I did a 30 day round and lost about 15 or so pounds and did a few weeks here or there after that. I sure wish I could get back the time and money and lost social life I lost to that diet (and many more like it). The diet is overly restrictive with lots of insane, arbitrary rules that as others have pointed out, have no basis in science. Sure, it's great to add more lean meats, fruits and vegetables to your diet period. But why can't you have broccoli on Wednesday but you can on Friday??? Does that make sense in any universe? And now that the diet has gotten more popular, she's become an expert at "fixing" all kinds of imaginary issues people have with her cleanses & Burn plans. Necessary? Nope, just another way to scam desperate people into paying for things they don't need.
Yes, I lost weight (lots of it was water weight, a bit of it was fat). But guess what, I've lost another 30 pounds since then simply counting calories. I've never once felt like I was on a diet, didn't have to lock myself away for a month because I can't have a drink or eat anything with an ounce of fat Monday-Thursday, can eat the things I enjoy when I want them, don't have to spend 30 minutes packing up all my food just to go to work, etc. I could go on and on. I'm not trying to be negative, I promise. This diet WILL work for you because it causes a calorie deficit (sometimes a bit of an extreme one). But I wish so very much I had realized sooner that it doesn't have to be so complicated...I doesn't even have to be hard. Set MFP to lose x pounds per week and meet your calorie allotment with foods that satisfy you both physically and emotionally. Eat fruits and vegetables to your hearts content (but don't feel bad about having a cup of coffee, a cocktail or a cookie once in a while). You'll find that's a much better plan for LONG TERM success.
This is a fantastic post. I hope OP reads and understands that what you experienced is what everyone who has commented is trying to help prevent her from going through, but some people only want either validation, affirmation, or have to learn it the hard way for themselves.1
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