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fruttibiscotti wrote: »crzycatlady1 wrote: »fruttibiscotti wrote: »crzycatlady1 wrote: »fruttibiscotti wrote: »The answer to your question is shown in the following study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27737674. This study demonstrates how "intermittent fasting", or IF, works.
By limiting your "eating window" to a limited time span, you create a "fasting" period for the remainder of the day, which allows your body to go into efficient fat-burning.
So, for example, in the study above, the "eating window" was within an 8-hr time period. This is also known as intermittent fasting.
For me, it's a very effective strategy. I've noticed a huge difference if I eat within the established eating window. Also, note that there is also no reduction in food intake. Whatever food you were planning to eat that day is not reduced...just needs to be within the feeding window. I get such huge gains in weight loss for virtually little effort with intermittent fasting.
So, yes. Meal timing is associated to weight loss effectiveness.
I've done IF for years now but if I don't also regulate my calorie intake I gain weight. IF is not a weight loss plan in itself and you still have to be eating at the correct calorie deficit for your weight loss goals while doing it. What many people find though is that doing an eating window is a simple way to help keep calories in check. If I eat in the morning I tend to graze the rest of the day. But, when I break my fast at noon or later then I don't graze/snack and it's easier to hit my calorie targets.
The effectiveness of intermittent fasting has to do with it's ability to improve insulin sensitivity and reboot metabolism. For example, this is shown in the following study, where those with deranged metabolisms demonstrated greater improvement of weight loss through intermittent fasting: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20921964
Do you think that you can eat over your maintenance calorie range, but stay within your IF window, and not gain weight? Because I've been there, done that and I did in fact gain
It's typically not possible to eat over the maintenance level in intermittent fasting, given that you stick to foods that do not derange your metabolism and induce insulin resistance (I.e. Typically non-processed foods). For example, I can only eat a certain amount of ribeye steak or salmon within the eating window. I can't force myself to eat more ribeye or salmon...it's impossible. It's a natural, built-in stop gap. There are some foods that some people need to restrict levels because they have a tendency to overeat them (like potatoes and rice). Most low-sugar, unprocessed foods are difficult to overeat (I.e. Vegetables, fish, meat, seafood).
IF is just a pattern of eating. It has noting to do with the types of foods you choose. I believe you're conflating IF and your LCHF preferences.
What part of LCHF includes potatoes and rice?
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fruttibiscotti wrote: »crzycatlady1 wrote: »fruttibiscotti wrote: »crzycatlady1 wrote: »fruttibiscotti wrote: »The answer to your question is shown in the following study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27737674. This study demonstrates how "intermittent fasting", or IF, works.
By limiting your "eating window" to a limited time span, you create a "fasting" period for the remainder of the day, which allows your body to go into efficient fat-burning.
So, for example, in the study above, the "eating window" was within an 8-hr time period. This is also known as intermittent fasting.
For me, it's a very effective strategy. I've noticed a huge difference if I eat within the established eating window. Also, note that there is also no reduction in food intake. Whatever food you were planning to eat that day is not reduced...just needs to be within the feeding window. I get such huge gains in weight loss for virtually little effort with intermittent fasting.
So, yes. Meal timing is associated to weight loss effectiveness.
I've done IF for years now but if I don't also regulate my calorie intake I gain weight. IF is not a weight loss plan in itself and you still have to be eating at the correct calorie deficit for your weight loss goals while doing it. What many people find though is that doing an eating window is a simple way to help keep calories in check. If I eat in the morning I tend to graze the rest of the day. But, when I break my fast at noon or later then I don't graze/snack and it's easier to hit my calorie targets.
The effectiveness of intermittent fasting has to do with it's ability to improve insulin sensitivity and reboot metabolism. For example, this is shown in the following study, where those with deranged metabolisms demonstrated greater improvement of weight loss through intermittent fasting: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20921964
Do you think that you can eat over your maintenance calorie range, but stay within your IF window, and not gain weight? Because I've been there, done that and I did in fact gain
It's typically not possible to eat over the maintenance level in intermittent fasting, given that you stick to foods that do not derange your metabolism and induce insulin resistance (I.e. Typically non-processed foods). For example, I can only eat a certain amount of ribeye steak or salmon within the eating window. I can't force myself to eat more ribeye or salmon...it's impossible. It's a natural, built-in stop gap. There are some foods that some people need to restrict levels because they have a tendency to overeat them (like potatoes and rice). Most low-sugar, unprocessed foods are difficult to overeat (I.e. Vegetables, fish, meat, seafood).
But there's no defined list of allowed foods for IF. I've done IF for around 5 years now and I eat in a completely different way than you do. I've hung out on several IF forums (not on MFP) and it's not about what kinds of foods you're eating, only about calorie timing. I think you have a different idea of what IF actually is?3 -
mrxtrmesports4622 wrote: »Better to eat small meals every couple of hours? Or bigger meals spread farther apart? Why?
Whatever works best for you.0 -
You're talking about restricting foods as part of IF.fruttibiscotti wrote: »fruttibiscotti wrote: »crzycatlady1 wrote: »fruttibiscotti wrote: »crzycatlady1 wrote: »fruttibiscotti wrote: »The answer to your question is shown in the following study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27737674. This study demonstrates how "intermittent fasting", or IF, works.
By limiting your "eating window" to a limited time span, you create a "fasting" period for the remainder of the day, which allows your body to go into efficient fat-burning.
So, for example, in the study above, the "eating window" was within an 8-hr time period. This is also known as intermittent fasting.
For me, it's a very effective strategy. I've noticed a huge difference if I eat within the established eating window. Also, note that there is also no reduction in food intake. Whatever food you were planning to eat that day is not reduced...just needs to be within the feeding window. I get such huge gains in weight loss for virtually little effort with intermittent fasting.
So, yes. Meal timing is associated to weight loss effectiveness.
I've done IF for years now but if I don't also regulate my calorie intake I gain weight. IF is not a weight loss plan in itself and you still have to be eating at the correct calorie deficit for your weight loss goals while doing it. What many people find though is that doing an eating window is a simple way to help keep calories in check. If I eat in the morning I tend to graze the rest of the day. But, when I break my fast at noon or later then I don't graze/snack and it's easier to hit my calorie targets.
The effectiveness of intermittent fasting has to do with it's ability to improve insulin sensitivity and reboot metabolism. For example, this is shown in the following study, where those with deranged metabolisms demonstrated greater improvement of weight loss through intermittent fasting: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20921964
Do you think that you can eat over your maintenance calorie range, but stay within your IF window, and not gain weight? Because I've been there, done that and I did in fact gain
It's typically not possible to eat over the maintenance level in intermittent fasting, given that you stick to foods that do not derange your metabolism and induce insulin resistance (I.e. Typically non-processed foods). For example, I can only eat a certain amount of ribeye steak or salmon within the eating window. I can't force myself to eat more ribeye or salmon...it's impossible. It's a natural, built-in stop gap. There are some foods that some people need to restrict levels because they have a tendency to overeat them (like potatoes and rice). Most low-sugar, unprocessed foods are difficult to overeat (I.e. Vegetables, fish, meat, seafood).
IF is just a pattern of eating. It has noting to do with the types of foods you choose. I believe you're conflating IF and your LCHF preferences.
What part of LCHF includes potatoes and rice?
ETA: my point was that you can practice IF and be low carb, keto, follow IIFYM, etc. One has nothing to do with the other.5 -
You're talking about restricting foods as part of IF.fruttibiscotti wrote: »fruttibiscotti wrote: »crzycatlady1 wrote: »fruttibiscotti wrote: »crzycatlady1 wrote: »fruttibiscotti wrote: »The answer to your question is shown in the following study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27737674. This study demonstrates how "intermittent fasting", or IF, works.
By limiting your "eating window" to a limited time span, you create a "fasting" period for the remainder of the day, which allows your body to go into efficient fat-burning.
So, for example, in the study above, the "eating window" was within an 8-hr time period. This is also known as intermittent fasting.
For me, it's a very effective strategy. I've noticed a huge difference if I eat within the established eating window. Also, note that there is also no reduction in food intake. Whatever food you were planning to eat that day is not reduced...just needs to be within the feeding window. I get such huge gains in weight loss for virtually little effort with intermittent fasting.
So, yes. Meal timing is associated to weight loss effectiveness.
I've done IF for years now but if I don't also regulate my calorie intake I gain weight. IF is not a weight loss plan in itself and you still have to be eating at the correct calorie deficit for your weight loss goals while doing it. What many people find though is that doing an eating window is a simple way to help keep calories in check. If I eat in the morning I tend to graze the rest of the day. But, when I break my fast at noon or later then I don't graze/snack and it's easier to hit my calorie targets.
The effectiveness of intermittent fasting has to do with it's ability to improve insulin sensitivity and reboot metabolism. For example, this is shown in the following study, where those with deranged metabolisms demonstrated greater improvement of weight loss through intermittent fasting: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20921964
Do you think that you can eat over your maintenance calorie range, but stay within your IF window, and not gain weight? Because I've been there, done that and I did in fact gain
It's typically not possible to eat over the maintenance level in intermittent fasting, given that you stick to foods that do not derange your metabolism and induce insulin resistance (I.e. Typically non-processed foods). For example, I can only eat a certain amount of ribeye steak or salmon within the eating window. I can't force myself to eat more ribeye or salmon...it's impossible. It's a natural, built-in stop gap. There are some foods that some people need to restrict levels because they have a tendency to overeat them (like potatoes and rice). Most low-sugar, unprocessed foods are difficult to overeat (I.e. Vegetables, fish, meat, seafood).
IF is just a pattern of eating. It has noting to do with the types of foods you choose. I believe you're conflating IF and your LCHF preferences.
What part of LCHF includes potatoes and rice?
ETA: my point was that you can practice IF and be low carb, keto, follow IIFYM, etc. One has nothing to do with the other.
Yeah, I think fruttibiscotti is misunderstanding what IF actually is. There's no rules/ lists/restrictions on what kinds of foods you can eat-IF is only about calorie timing. I've done ADF, 5:2IF and now 16:8IF, but CICO is still what matters for weight loss, weight maintenance and weight gain.4 -
fruttibiscotti wrote: »crzycatlady1 wrote: »fruttibiscotti wrote: »The answer to your question is shown in the following study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27737674. This study demonstrates how "intermittent fasting", or IF, works.
By limiting your "eating window" to a limited time span, you create a "fasting" period for the remainder of the day, which allows your body to go into efficient fat-burning.
So, for example, in the study above, the "eating window" was within an 8-hr time period. This is also known as intermittent fasting.
For me, it's a very effective strategy. I've noticed a huge difference if I eat within the established eating window. Also, note that there is also no reduction in food intake. Whatever food you were planning to eat that day is not reduced...just needs to be within the feeding window. I get such huge gains in weight loss for virtually little effort with intermittent fasting.
So, yes. Meal timing is associated to weight loss effectiveness.
I've done IF for years now but if I don't also regulate my calorie intake I gain weight. IF is not a weight loss plan in itself and you still have to be eating at the correct calorie deficit for your weight loss goals while doing it. What many people find though is that doing an eating window is a simple way to help keep calories in check. If I eat in the morning I tend to graze the rest of the day. But, when I break my fast at noon or later then I don't graze/snack and it's easier to hit my calorie targets.
The effectiveness of intermittent fasting has to do with it's ability to improve insulin sensitivity and reboot metabolism. For example, this is shown in the following study, where those with deranged metabolisms demonstrated greater improvement of weight loss through intermittent fasting: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20921964
Right.
Nope. Your metabolism does not need rebooting, and not everyone is insulin sensitive. Fasting is personal preference and works for some people, and not for others.
That study you posted was done on "Thirty-four resistance-trained males," but did not provide weight, age, etc. How does that even apply here? In fact, the question was general with no details as to whether the OP is a "resistance-trained" male. All we know is he's 19 years old.4 -
fruttibiscotti wrote: »crzycatlady1 wrote: »fruttibiscotti wrote: »The answer to your question is shown in the following study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27737674. This study demonstrates how "intermittent fasting", or IF, works.
By limiting your "eating window" to a limited time span, you create a "fasting" period for the remainder of the day, which allows your body to go into efficient fat-burning.
So, for example, in the study above, the "eating window" was within an 8-hr time period. This is also known as intermittent fasting.
For me, it's a very effective strategy. I've noticed a huge difference if I eat within the established eating window. Also, note that there is also no reduction in food intake. Whatever food you were planning to eat that day is not reduced...just needs to be within the feeding window. I get such huge gains in weight loss for virtually little effort with intermittent fasting.
So, yes. Meal timing is associated to weight loss effectiveness.
I've done IF for years now but if I don't also regulate my calorie intake I gain weight. IF is not a weight loss plan in itself and you still have to be eating at the correct calorie deficit for your weight loss goals while doing it. What many people find though is that doing an eating window is a simple way to help keep calories in check. If I eat in the morning I tend to graze the rest of the day. But, when I break my fast at noon or later then I don't graze/snack and it's easier to hit my calorie targets.
The effectiveness of intermittent fasting has to do with it's ability to improve insulin sensitivity and reboot metabolism. For example, this is shown in the following study, where those with deranged metabolisms demonstrated greater improvement of weight loss through intermittent fasting: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20921964
Right.
Nope. Your metabolism does not need rebooting, and not everyone is insulin sensitive. Fasting is personal preference and works for some people, and not for others.
That study you posted was done on "Thirty-four resistance-trained males." How does that even apply here?
I posted two studies, one of men and the other women, as well as different metabolic performance levels. Demonstrates IF works along a spectrum of types.
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fruttibiscotti wrote: »fruttibiscotti wrote: »crzycatlady1 wrote: »fruttibiscotti wrote: »The answer to your question is shown in the following study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27737674. This study demonstrates how "intermittent fasting", or IF, works.
By limiting your "eating window" to a limited time span, you create a "fasting" period for the remainder of the day, which allows your body to go into efficient fat-burning.
So, for example, in the study above, the "eating window" was within an 8-hr time period. This is also known as intermittent fasting.
For me, it's a very effective strategy. I've noticed a huge difference if I eat within the established eating window. Also, note that there is also no reduction in food intake. Whatever food you were planning to eat that day is not reduced...just needs to be within the feeding window. I get such huge gains in weight loss for virtually little effort with intermittent fasting.
So, yes. Meal timing is associated to weight loss effectiveness.
I've done IF for years now but if I don't also regulate my calorie intake I gain weight. IF is not a weight loss plan in itself and you still have to be eating at the correct calorie deficit for your weight loss goals while doing it. What many people find though is that doing an eating window is a simple way to help keep calories in check. If I eat in the morning I tend to graze the rest of the day. But, when I break my fast at noon or later then I don't graze/snack and it's easier to hit my calorie targets.
The effectiveness of intermittent fasting has to do with it's ability to improve insulin sensitivity and reboot metabolism. For example, this is shown in the following study, where those with deranged metabolisms demonstrated greater improvement of weight loss through intermittent fasting: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20921964
Right.
Nope. Your metabolism does not need rebooting, and not everyone is insulin sensitive. Fasting is personal preference and works for some people, and not for others.
That study you posted was done on "Thirty-four resistance-trained males." How does that even apply here?
I posted two studies, one of men and the other women, as well as different metabolic performance levels. Demonstrates IF works along a spectrum of types.
Nobody said it didn't work.
It works for some people, not for everyone. And,it will only work as to weight loss if you're in a calorie deficit.
You'll catch me intermittently fasting in a cold day in hell because that type of eating plan does not work for me when it comes to calorie control, which is the one necessary component to weight loss.4 -
crzycatlady1 wrote: »
You're talking about restricting foods as part of IF.fruttibiscotti wrote: »fruttibiscotti wrote: »crzycatlady1 wrote: »fruttibiscotti wrote: »crzycatlady1 wrote: »fruttibiscotti wrote: »The answer to your question is shown in the following study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27737674. This study demonstrates how "intermittent fasting", or IF, works.
By limiting your "eating window" to a limited time span, you create a "fasting" period for the remainder of the day, which allows your body to go into efficient fat-burning.
So, for example, in the study above, the "eating window" was within an 8-hr time period. This is also known as intermittent fasting.
For me, it's a very effective strategy. I've noticed a huge difference if I eat within the established eating window. Also, note that there is also no reduction in food intake. Whatever food you were planning to eat that day is not reduced...just needs to be within the feeding window. I get such huge gains in weight loss for virtually little effort with intermittent fasting.
So, yes. Meal timing is associated to weight loss effectiveness.
I've done IF for years now but if I don't also regulate my calorie intake I gain weight. IF is not a weight loss plan in itself and you still have to be eating at the correct calorie deficit for your weight loss goals while doing it. What many people find though is that doing an eating window is a simple way to help keep calories in check. If I eat in the morning I tend to graze the rest of the day. But, when I break my fast at noon or later then I don't graze/snack and it's easier to hit my calorie targets.
The effectiveness of intermittent fasting has to do with it's ability to improve insulin sensitivity and reboot metabolism. For example, this is shown in the following study, where those with deranged metabolisms demonstrated greater improvement of weight loss through intermittent fasting: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20921964
Do you think that you can eat over your maintenance calorie range, but stay within your IF window, and not gain weight? Because I've been there, done that and I did in fact gain
It's typically not possible to eat over the maintenance level in intermittent fasting, given that you stick to foods that do not derange your metabolism and induce insulin resistance (I.e. Typically non-processed foods). For example, I can only eat a certain amount of ribeye steak or salmon within the eating window. I can't force myself to eat more ribeye or salmon...it's impossible. It's a natural, built-in stop gap. There are some foods that some people need to restrict levels because they have a tendency to overeat them (like potatoes and rice). Most low-sugar, unprocessed foods are difficult to overeat (I.e. Vegetables, fish, meat, seafood).
IF is just a pattern of eating. It has noting to do with the types of foods you choose. I believe you're conflating IF and your LCHF preferences.
What part of LCHF includes potatoes and rice?
ETA: my point was that you can practice IF and be low carb, keto, follow IIFYM, etc. One has nothing to do with the other.
Yeah, I think fruttibiscotti is misunderstanding what IF actually is. There's no rules/ lists/restrictions on what kinds of foods you can eat-IF is only about calorie timing. I've done ADF, 5:2IF and now 16:8IF, but CICO is still what matters for weight loss, weight maintenance and weight gain.
OP asked if there is a difference in meal timing. I answered yes...and gave a couple of intermittent fasting studies demonstrating results. So, you can use whatever food regimen (vegan, vegetarian, DASH, low carb, high protein, etc) in combination with intermittent fasting (which has shown positive results in weight loss).
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fruttibiscotti wrote: »crzycatlady1 wrote: »
You're talking about restricting foods as part of IF.fruttibiscotti wrote: »fruttibiscotti wrote: »crzycatlady1 wrote: »fruttibiscotti wrote: »crzycatlady1 wrote: »fruttibiscotti wrote: »The answer to your question is shown in the following study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27737674. This study demonstrates how "intermittent fasting", or IF, works.
By limiting your "eating window" to a limited time span, you create a "fasting" period for the remainder of the day, which allows your body to go into efficient fat-burning.
So, for example, in the study above, the "eating window" was within an 8-hr time period. This is also known as intermittent fasting.
For me, it's a very effective strategy. I've noticed a huge difference if I eat within the established eating window. Also, note that there is also no reduction in food intake. Whatever food you were planning to eat that day is not reduced...just needs to be within the feeding window. I get such huge gains in weight loss for virtually little effort with intermittent fasting.
So, yes. Meal timing is associated to weight loss effectiveness.
I've done IF for years now but if I don't also regulate my calorie intake I gain weight. IF is not a weight loss plan in itself and you still have to be eating at the correct calorie deficit for your weight loss goals while doing it. What many people find though is that doing an eating window is a simple way to help keep calories in check. If I eat in the morning I tend to graze the rest of the day. But, when I break my fast at noon or later then I don't graze/snack and it's easier to hit my calorie targets.
The effectiveness of intermittent fasting has to do with it's ability to improve insulin sensitivity and reboot metabolism. For example, this is shown in the following study, where those with deranged metabolisms demonstrated greater improvement of weight loss through intermittent fasting: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20921964
Do you think that you can eat over your maintenance calorie range, but stay within your IF window, and not gain weight? Because I've been there, done that and I did in fact gain
It's typically not possible to eat over the maintenance level in intermittent fasting, given that you stick to foods that do not derange your metabolism and induce insulin resistance (I.e. Typically non-processed foods). For example, I can only eat a certain amount of ribeye steak or salmon within the eating window. I can't force myself to eat more ribeye or salmon...it's impossible. It's a natural, built-in stop gap. There are some foods that some people need to restrict levels because they have a tendency to overeat them (like potatoes and rice). Most low-sugar, unprocessed foods are difficult to overeat (I.e. Vegetables, fish, meat, seafood).
IF is just a pattern of eating. It has noting to do with the types of foods you choose. I believe you're conflating IF and your LCHF preferences.
What part of LCHF includes potatoes and rice?
ETA: my point was that you can practice IF and be low carb, keto, follow IIFYM, etc. One has nothing to do with the other.
Yeah, I think fruttibiscotti is misunderstanding what IF actually is. There's no rules/ lists/restrictions on what kinds of foods you can eat-IF is only about calorie timing. I've done ADF, 5:2IF and now 16:8IF, but CICO is still what matters for weight loss, weight maintenance and weight gain.
OP asked if there is a difference in meal timing. I answered yes...and gave a couple of intermittent fasting studies demonstrating results. So, you can use whatever food regimen (vegan, vegetarian, DASH, low carb, high protein, etc) in combination with intermittent fasting (which has shown positive results in weight loss).
I think it's misleading to say that meal timing leads to weight loss. It's actually that meal timing can help with satiety and sticking to goals which can help with weight loss.
So, it comes back to doing what works for you.
FWIW, I love IF and eat that way naturally so it worked well with my calorie limit when I was in deficit.4 -
fruttibiscotti wrote: »crzycatlady1 wrote: »
You're talking about restricting foods as part of IF.fruttibiscotti wrote: »fruttibiscotti wrote: »crzycatlady1 wrote: »fruttibiscotti wrote: »crzycatlady1 wrote: »fruttibiscotti wrote: »The answer to your question is shown in the following study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27737674. This study demonstrates how "intermittent fasting", or IF, works.
By limiting your "eating window" to a limited time span, you create a "fasting" period for the remainder of the day, which allows your body to go into efficient fat-burning.
So, for example, in the study above, the "eating window" was within an 8-hr time period. This is also known as intermittent fasting.
For me, it's a very effective strategy. I've noticed a huge difference if I eat within the established eating window. Also, note that there is also no reduction in food intake. Whatever food you were planning to eat that day is not reduced...just needs to be within the feeding window. I get such huge gains in weight loss for virtually little effort with intermittent fasting.
So, yes. Meal timing is associated to weight loss effectiveness.
I've done IF for years now but if I don't also regulate my calorie intake I gain weight. IF is not a weight loss plan in itself and you still have to be eating at the correct calorie deficit for your weight loss goals while doing it. What many people find though is that doing an eating window is a simple way to help keep calories in check. If I eat in the morning I tend to graze the rest of the day. But, when I break my fast at noon or later then I don't graze/snack and it's easier to hit my calorie targets.
The effectiveness of intermittent fasting has to do with it's ability to improve insulin sensitivity and reboot metabolism. For example, this is shown in the following study, where those with deranged metabolisms demonstrated greater improvement of weight loss through intermittent fasting: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20921964
Do you think that you can eat over your maintenance calorie range, but stay within your IF window, and not gain weight? Because I've been there, done that and I did in fact gain
It's typically not possible to eat over the maintenance level in intermittent fasting, given that you stick to foods that do not derange your metabolism and induce insulin resistance (I.e. Typically non-processed foods). For example, I can only eat a certain amount of ribeye steak or salmon within the eating window. I can't force myself to eat more ribeye or salmon...it's impossible. It's a natural, built-in stop gap. There are some foods that some people need to restrict levels because they have a tendency to overeat them (like potatoes and rice). Most low-sugar, unprocessed foods are difficult to overeat (I.e. Vegetables, fish, meat, seafood).
IF is just a pattern of eating. It has noting to do with the types of foods you choose. I believe you're conflating IF and your LCHF preferences.
What part of LCHF includes potatoes and rice?
ETA: my point was that you can practice IF and be low carb, keto, follow IIFYM, etc. One has nothing to do with the other.
Yeah, I think fruttibiscotti is misunderstanding what IF actually is. There's no rules/ lists/restrictions on what kinds of foods you can eat-IF is only about calorie timing. I've done ADF, 5:2IF and now 16:8IF, but CICO is still what matters for weight loss, weight maintenance and weight gain.
OP asked if there is a difference in meal timing. I answered yes...and gave a couple of intermittent fasting studies demonstrating results. So, you can use whatever food regimen (vegan, vegetarian, DASH, low carb, high protein, etc) in combination with intermittent fasting (which has shown positive results in weight loss).
I think it's misleading to say that meal timing leads to weight loss. It's actually that meal timing can help with satiety and sticking to goals which can help with weight loss.
So, it comes back to doing what works for you.
FWIW, I love IF and eat that way naturally so it worked well with my calorie limit when I was in deficit.
Can you provide a reference to back up your statement? You claim that I am misleading. I provided scientific studies. You provided "opinions".
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fruttibiscotti wrote: »fruttibiscotti wrote: »crzycatlady1 wrote: »
You're talking about restricting foods as part of IF.fruttibiscotti wrote: »fruttibiscotti wrote: »crzycatlady1 wrote: »fruttibiscotti wrote: »crzycatlady1 wrote: »fruttibiscotti wrote: »The answer to your question is shown in the following study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27737674. This study demonstrates how "intermittent fasting", or IF, works.
By limiting your "eating window" to a limited time span, you create a "fasting" period for the remainder of the day, which allows your body to go into efficient fat-burning.
So, for example, in the study above, the "eating window" was within an 8-hr time period. This is also known as intermittent fasting.
For me, it's a very effective strategy. I've noticed a huge difference if I eat within the established eating window. Also, note that there is also no reduction in food intake. Whatever food you were planning to eat that day is not reduced...just needs to be within the feeding window. I get such huge gains in weight loss for virtually little effort with intermittent fasting.
So, yes. Meal timing is associated to weight loss effectiveness.
I've done IF for years now but if I don't also regulate my calorie intake I gain weight. IF is not a weight loss plan in itself and you still have to be eating at the correct calorie deficit for your weight loss goals while doing it. What many people find though is that doing an eating window is a simple way to help keep calories in check. If I eat in the morning I tend to graze the rest of the day. But, when I break my fast at noon or later then I don't graze/snack and it's easier to hit my calorie targets.
The effectiveness of intermittent fasting has to do with it's ability to improve insulin sensitivity and reboot metabolism. For example, this is shown in the following study, where those with deranged metabolisms demonstrated greater improvement of weight loss through intermittent fasting: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20921964
Do you think that you can eat over your maintenance calorie range, but stay within your IF window, and not gain weight? Because I've been there, done that and I did in fact gain
It's typically not possible to eat over the maintenance level in intermittent fasting, given that you stick to foods that do not derange your metabolism and induce insulin resistance (I.e. Typically non-processed foods). For example, I can only eat a certain amount of ribeye steak or salmon within the eating window. I can't force myself to eat more ribeye or salmon...it's impossible. It's a natural, built-in stop gap. There are some foods that some people need to restrict levels because they have a tendency to overeat them (like potatoes and rice). Most low-sugar, unprocessed foods are difficult to overeat (I.e. Vegetables, fish, meat, seafood).
IF is just a pattern of eating. It has noting to do with the types of foods you choose. I believe you're conflating IF and your LCHF preferences.
What part of LCHF includes potatoes and rice?
ETA: my point was that you can practice IF and be low carb, keto, follow IIFYM, etc. One has nothing to do with the other.
Yeah, I think fruttibiscotti is misunderstanding what IF actually is. There's no rules/ lists/restrictions on what kinds of foods you can eat-IF is only about calorie timing. I've done ADF, 5:2IF and now 16:8IF, but CICO is still what matters for weight loss, weight maintenance and weight gain.
OP asked if there is a difference in meal timing. I answered yes...and gave a couple of intermittent fasting studies demonstrating results. So, you can use whatever food regimen (vegan, vegetarian, DASH, low carb, high protein, etc) in combination with intermittent fasting (which has shown positive results in weight loss).
I think it's misleading to say that meal timing leads to weight loss. It's actually that meal timing can help with satiety and sticking to goals which can help with weight loss.
So, it comes back to doing what works for you.
FWIW, I love IF and eat that way naturally so it worked well with my calorie limit when I was in deficit.
Can you provide a reference to back up your statement? You claim that I am misleading. I provided scientific studies. You provided "opinions".
It will have to be once I'm back at a computer. I can't from my phone.0 -
fruttibiscotti wrote: »crzycatlady1 wrote: »fruttibiscotti wrote: »The answer to your question is shown in the following study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27737674. This study demonstrates how "intermittent fasting", or IF, works.
By limiting your "eating window" to a limited time span, you create a "fasting" period for the remainder of the day, which allows your body to go into efficient fat-burning.
So, for example, in the study above, the "eating window" was within an 8-hr time period. This is also known as intermittent fasting.
For me, it's a very effective strategy. I've noticed a huge difference if I eat within the established eating window. Also, note that there is also no reduction in food intake. Whatever food you were planning to eat that day is not reduced...just needs to be within the feeding window. I get such huge gains in weight loss for virtually little effort with intermittent fasting.
So, yes. Meal timing is associated to weight loss effectiveness.
I've done IF for years now but if I don't also regulate my calorie intake I gain weight. IF is not a weight loss plan in itself and you still have to be eating at the correct calorie deficit for your weight loss goals while doing it. What many people find though is that doing an eating window is a simple way to help keep calories in check. If I eat in the morning I tend to graze the rest of the day. But, when I break my fast at noon or later then I don't graze/snack and it's easier to hit my calorie targets.
The effectiveness of intermittent fasting has to do with it's ability to improve insulin sensitivity and reboot metabolism. For example, this is shown in the following study, where those with deranged metabolisms demonstrated greater improvement of weight loss through intermittent fasting: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20921964
Right.
Nope. Your metabolism does not need rebooting, and not everyone is insulin sensitive. Fasting is personal preference and works for some people, and not for others.
That study you posted was done on "Thirty-four resistance-trained males," but did not provide weight, age, etc. How does that even apply here? In fact, the question was general with no details as to whether the OP is a "resistance-trained" male. All we know is he's 19 years old.fruttibiscotti wrote: »fruttibiscotti wrote: »crzycatlady1 wrote: »fruttibiscotti wrote: »The answer to your question is shown in the following study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27737674. This study demonstrates how "intermittent fasting", or IF, works.
By limiting your "eating window" to a limited time span, you create a "fasting" period for the remainder of the day, which allows your body to go into efficient fat-burning.
So, for example, in the study above, the "eating window" was within an 8-hr time period. This is also known as intermittent fasting.
For me, it's a very effective strategy. I've noticed a huge difference if I eat within the established eating window. Also, note that there is also no reduction in food intake. Whatever food you were planning to eat that day is not reduced...just needs to be within the feeding window. I get such huge gains in weight loss for virtually little effort with intermittent fasting.
So, yes. Meal timing is associated to weight loss effectiveness.
I've done IF for years now but if I don't also regulate my calorie intake I gain weight. IF is not a weight loss plan in itself and you still have to be eating at the correct calorie deficit for your weight loss goals while doing it. What many people find though is that doing an eating window is a simple way to help keep calories in check. If I eat in the morning I tend to graze the rest of the day. But, when I break my fast at noon or later then I don't graze/snack and it's easier to hit my calorie targets.
The effectiveness of intermittent fasting has to do with it's ability to improve insulin sensitivity and reboot metabolism. For example, this is shown in the following study, where those with deranged metabolisms demonstrated greater improvement of weight loss through intermittent fasting: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20921964
Right.
Nope. Your metabolism does not need rebooting, and not everyone is insulin sensitive. Fasting is personal preference and works for some people, and not for others.
That study you posted was done on "Thirty-four resistance-trained males." How does that even apply here?
I posted two studies, one of men and the other women, as well as different metabolic performance levels. Demonstrates IF works along a spectrum of types.
Nobody said it didn't work.
It works for some people, not for everyone. And,it will only work as to weight loss if you're in a calorie deficit.
You'll catch me intermittently fasting in a cold day in hell because that type of eating plan does not work for me when it comes to calorie control, which is the one necessary component to weight loss.
Not sure why you responded with "nobody said it didn't work". All I did was respond to your previous concern, that one of the studies was done on resistance trained males. And all I said was I also provided another study on women with different metabolic type...demonstrating effectiveness of IF across various conditions. Your MFP profile says that your weight is creeping back. So, not sure what you mean by your strategy working for you. Just saying.
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The article on males has nothing to do with weight loss and the article with women says IER is as effective as CER. Neither show that it's better than any alternatives.4
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fruttibiscotti wrote: »fruttibiscotti wrote: »crzycatlady1 wrote: »fruttibiscotti wrote: »The answer to your question is shown in the following study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27737674. This study demonstrates how "intermittent fasting", or IF, works.
By limiting your "eating window" to a limited time span, you create a "fasting" period for the remainder of the day, which allows your body to go into efficient fat-burning.
So, for example, in the study above, the "eating window" was within an 8-hr time period. This is also known as intermittent fasting.
For me, it's a very effective strategy. I've noticed a huge difference if I eat within the established eating window. Also, note that there is also no reduction in food intake. Whatever food you were planning to eat that day is not reduced...just needs to be within the feeding window. I get such huge gains in weight loss for virtually little effort with intermittent fasting.
So, yes. Meal timing is associated to weight loss effectiveness.
I've done IF for years now but if I don't also regulate my calorie intake I gain weight. IF is not a weight loss plan in itself and you still have to be eating at the correct calorie deficit for your weight loss goals while doing it. What many people find though is that doing an eating window is a simple way to help keep calories in check. If I eat in the morning I tend to graze the rest of the day. But, when I break my fast at noon or later then I don't graze/snack and it's easier to hit my calorie targets.
The effectiveness of intermittent fasting has to do with it's ability to improve insulin sensitivity and reboot metabolism. For example, this is shown in the following study, where those with deranged metabolisms demonstrated greater improvement of weight loss through intermittent fasting: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20921964
Right.
Nope. Your metabolism does not need rebooting, and not everyone is insulin sensitive. Fasting is personal preference and works for some people, and not for others.
That study you posted was done on "Thirty-four resistance-trained males," but did not provide weight, age, etc. How does that even apply here? In fact, the question was general with no details as to whether the OP is a "resistance-trained" male. All we know is he's 19 years old.fruttibiscotti wrote: »fruttibiscotti wrote: »crzycatlady1 wrote: »fruttibiscotti wrote: »The answer to your question is shown in the following study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27737674. This study demonstrates how "intermittent fasting", or IF, works.
By limiting your "eating window" to a limited time span, you create a "fasting" period for the remainder of the day, which allows your body to go into efficient fat-burning.
So, for example, in the study above, the "eating window" was within an 8-hr time period. This is also known as intermittent fasting.
For me, it's a very effective strategy. I've noticed a huge difference if I eat within the established eating window. Also, note that there is also no reduction in food intake. Whatever food you were planning to eat that day is not reduced...just needs to be within the feeding window. I get such huge gains in weight loss for virtually little effort with intermittent fasting.
So, yes. Meal timing is associated to weight loss effectiveness.
I've done IF for years now but if I don't also regulate my calorie intake I gain weight. IF is not a weight loss plan in itself and you still have to be eating at the correct calorie deficit for your weight loss goals while doing it. What many people find though is that doing an eating window is a simple way to help keep calories in check. If I eat in the morning I tend to graze the rest of the day. But, when I break my fast at noon or later then I don't graze/snack and it's easier to hit my calorie targets.
The effectiveness of intermittent fasting has to do with it's ability to improve insulin sensitivity and reboot metabolism. For example, this is shown in the following study, where those with deranged metabolisms demonstrated greater improvement of weight loss through intermittent fasting: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20921964
Right.
Nope. Your metabolism does not need rebooting, and not everyone is insulin sensitive. Fasting is personal preference and works for some people, and not for others.
That study you posted was done on "Thirty-four resistance-trained males." How does that even apply here?
I posted two studies, one of men and the other women, as well as different metabolic performance levels. Demonstrates IF works along a spectrum of types.
Nobody said it didn't work.
It works for some people, not for everyone. And,it will only work as to weight loss if you're in a calorie deficit.
You'll catch me intermittently fasting in a cold day in hell because that type of eating plan does not work for me when it comes to calorie control, which is the one necessary component to weight loss.
Not sure why you responded with "nobody said it didn't work". All I did was respond to your previous concern, that one of the studies was done on resistance trained males. And all I said was I also provided another study on women with different metabolic type...demonstrating effectiveness of IF across various conditions. Your MFP profile says that your weight is creeping back. So, not sure what you mean by your strategy working for you. Just saying.
Did you read the paragraph after that one, or were you just looking for something specific to attack on a personal level?
I've been primarily staying out of this because these conversations become circular. IF works as long as you remain in a calorie deficit. It can be helpful for a number of specific scenarios. I have seen people who feel that their BED is better managed with IF. If a person tends to prefer a larger meal, having a smaller window will reduce the amount of grazing. It can take some time to adapt to different eating hours than one is used to, but it can work. Whether IF works for an individual, it is still the calorie deficit that leads to weight loss.3 -
The article on males has nothing to do with weight loss and the article with women says IER is as effective as CER. Neither show that it's better than any alternatives.
From the study:
Last observation carried forward analysis showed that IER and CER are equally effective for weight loss: mean (95% confidence interval ) weight change for IER was -6.4 (-7.9 to -4.8) kg vs -5.6 (-6.9 to -4.4) kg for CER (P-value for difference between groups = 0.4). Both groups experienced comparable reductions in leptin, free androgen index, high-sensitivity C-reactive protein, total and LDL cholesterol, triglycerides, blood pressure and increases in sex hormone binding globulin, IGF binding proteins 1 and 2. Reductions in fasting insulin and insulin resistance were modest in both groups, but greater with IER than with CER; difference between groups for fasting insulin was -1.2 (-1.4 to -1.0) μU ml(-1) and for insulin resistance was -1.2 (-1.5 to -1.0) μU mmol(-1) l(-1) (both P = 0.04).
So, the data shows is that both IER and CER resulted in weight loss...with greater loss in the IER group.
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nutmegoreo wrote: »fruttibiscotti wrote: »fruttibiscotti wrote: »crzycatlady1 wrote: »fruttibiscotti wrote: »The answer to your question is shown in the following study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27737674. This study demonstrates how "intermittent fasting", or IF, works.
By limiting your "eating window" to a limited time span, you create a "fasting" period for the remainder of the day, which allows your body to go into efficient fat-burning.
So, for example, in the study above, the "eating window" was within an 8-hr time period. This is also known as intermittent fasting.
For me, it's a very effective strategy. I've noticed a huge difference if I eat within the established eating window. Also, note that there is also no reduction in food intake. Whatever food you were planning to eat that day is not reduced...just needs to be within the feeding window. I get such huge gains in weight loss for virtually little effort with intermittent fasting.
So, yes. Meal timing is associated to weight loss effectiveness.
I've done IF for years now but if I don't also regulate my calorie intake I gain weight. IF is not a weight loss plan in itself and you still have to be eating at the correct calorie deficit for your weight loss goals while doing it. What many people find though is that doing an eating window is a simple way to help keep calories in check. If I eat in the morning I tend to graze the rest of the day. But, when I break my fast at noon or later then I don't graze/snack and it's easier to hit my calorie targets.
The effectiveness of intermittent fasting has to do with it's ability to improve insulin sensitivity and reboot metabolism. For example, this is shown in the following study, where those with deranged metabolisms demonstrated greater improvement of weight loss through intermittent fasting: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20921964
Right.
Nope. Your metabolism does not need rebooting, and not everyone is insulin sensitive. Fasting is personal preference and works for some people, and not for others.
That study you posted was done on "Thirty-four resistance-trained males," but did not provide weight, age, etc. How does that even apply here? In fact, the question was general with no details as to whether the OP is a "resistance-trained" male. All we know is he's 19 years old.fruttibiscotti wrote: »fruttibiscotti wrote: »crzycatlady1 wrote: »fruttibiscotti wrote: »The answer to your question is shown in the following study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27737674. This study demonstrates how "intermittent fasting", or IF, works.
By limiting your "eating window" to a limited time span, you create a "fasting" period for the remainder of the day, which allows your body to go into efficient fat-burning.
So, for example, in the study above, the "eating window" was within an 8-hr time period. This is also known as intermittent fasting.
For me, it's a very effective strategy. I've noticed a huge difference if I eat within the established eating window. Also, note that there is also no reduction in food intake. Whatever food you were planning to eat that day is not reduced...just needs to be within the feeding window. I get such huge gains in weight loss for virtually little effort with intermittent fasting.
So, yes. Meal timing is associated to weight loss effectiveness.
I've done IF for years now but if I don't also regulate my calorie intake I gain weight. IF is not a weight loss plan in itself and you still have to be eating at the correct calorie deficit for your weight loss goals while doing it. What many people find though is that doing an eating window is a simple way to help keep calories in check. If I eat in the morning I tend to graze the rest of the day. But, when I break my fast at noon or later then I don't graze/snack and it's easier to hit my calorie targets.
The effectiveness of intermittent fasting has to do with it's ability to improve insulin sensitivity and reboot metabolism. For example, this is shown in the following study, where those with deranged metabolisms demonstrated greater improvement of weight loss through intermittent fasting: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20921964
Right.
Nope. Your metabolism does not need rebooting, and not everyone is insulin sensitive. Fasting is personal preference and works for some people, and not for others.
That study you posted was done on "Thirty-four resistance-trained males." How does that even apply here?
I posted two studies, one of men and the other women, as well as different metabolic performance levels. Demonstrates IF works along a spectrum of types.
Nobody said it didn't work.
It works for some people, not for everyone. And,it will only work as to weight loss if you're in a calorie deficit.
You'll catch me intermittently fasting in a cold day in hell because that type of eating plan does not work for me when it comes to calorie control, which is the one necessary component to weight loss.
Not sure why you responded with "nobody said it didn't work". All I did was respond to your previous concern, that one of the studies was done on resistance trained males. And all I said was I also provided another study on women with different metabolic type...demonstrating effectiveness of IF across various conditions. Your MFP profile says that your weight is creeping back. So, not sure what you mean by your strategy working for you. Just saying.
Did you read the paragraph after that one, or were you just looking for something specific to attack on a personal level?
I've been primarily staying out of this because these conversations become circular. IF works as long as you remain in a calorie deficit. It can be helpful for a number of specific scenarios. I have seen people who feel that their BED is better managed with IF. If a person tends to prefer a larger meal, having a smaller window will reduce the amount of grazing. It can take some time to adapt to different eating hours than one is used to, but it can work. Whether IF works for an individual, it is still the calorie deficit that leads to weight loss.
What "paragraph after that one" are you referring to?
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The article on males has nothing to do with weight loss and the article with women says IER is as effective as CER. Neither show that it's better than any alternatives.
Of course the first article discussed weight loss. Here's what the data showed:
After 8 weeks, the 2 Way ANOVA (Time * Diet interaction) showed a decrease in fat mass in TRF compared to ND (p = 0.0448), while fat-free mass, muscle area of the arm and thigh, and maximal strength were maintained in both groups.
Obviously, when an article says "showed a decrease in fat mass" means the subjects lost weight in their fat portion.
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fruttibiscotti wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »fruttibiscotti wrote: »fruttibiscotti wrote: »crzycatlady1 wrote: »fruttibiscotti wrote: »The answer to your question is shown in the following study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27737674. This study demonstrates how "intermittent fasting", or IF, works.
By limiting your "eating window" to a limited time span, you create a "fasting" period for the remainder of the day, which allows your body to go into efficient fat-burning.
So, for example, in the study above, the "eating window" was within an 8-hr time period. This is also known as intermittent fasting.
For me, it's a very effective strategy. I've noticed a huge difference if I eat within the established eating window. Also, note that there is also no reduction in food intake. Whatever food you were planning to eat that day is not reduced...just needs to be within the feeding window. I get such huge gains in weight loss for virtually little effort with intermittent fasting.
So, yes. Meal timing is associated to weight loss effectiveness.
I've done IF for years now but if I don't also regulate my calorie intake I gain weight. IF is not a weight loss plan in itself and you still have to be eating at the correct calorie deficit for your weight loss goals while doing it. What many people find though is that doing an eating window is a simple way to help keep calories in check. If I eat in the morning I tend to graze the rest of the day. But, when I break my fast at noon or later then I don't graze/snack and it's easier to hit my calorie targets.
The effectiveness of intermittent fasting has to do with it's ability to improve insulin sensitivity and reboot metabolism. For example, this is shown in the following study, where those with deranged metabolisms demonstrated greater improvement of weight loss through intermittent fasting: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20921964
Right.
Nope. Your metabolism does not need rebooting, and not everyone is insulin sensitive. Fasting is personal preference and works for some people, and not for others.
That study you posted was done on "Thirty-four resistance-trained males," but did not provide weight, age, etc. How does that even apply here? In fact, the question was general with no details as to whether the OP is a "resistance-trained" male. All we know is he's 19 years old.fruttibiscotti wrote: »fruttibiscotti wrote: »crzycatlady1 wrote: »fruttibiscotti wrote: »The answer to your question is shown in the following study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27737674. This study demonstrates how "intermittent fasting", or IF, works.
By limiting your "eating window" to a limited time span, you create a "fasting" period for the remainder of the day, which allows your body to go into efficient fat-burning.
So, for example, in the study above, the "eating window" was within an 8-hr time period. This is also known as intermittent fasting.
For me, it's a very effective strategy. I've noticed a huge difference if I eat within the established eating window. Also, note that there is also no reduction in food intake. Whatever food you were planning to eat that day is not reduced...just needs to be within the feeding window. I get such huge gains in weight loss for virtually little effort with intermittent fasting.
So, yes. Meal timing is associated to weight loss effectiveness.
I've done IF for years now but if I don't also regulate my calorie intake I gain weight. IF is not a weight loss plan in itself and you still have to be eating at the correct calorie deficit for your weight loss goals while doing it. What many people find though is that doing an eating window is a simple way to help keep calories in check. If I eat in the morning I tend to graze the rest of the day. But, when I break my fast at noon or later then I don't graze/snack and it's easier to hit my calorie targets.
The effectiveness of intermittent fasting has to do with it's ability to improve insulin sensitivity and reboot metabolism. For example, this is shown in the following study, where those with deranged metabolisms demonstrated greater improvement of weight loss through intermittent fasting: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20921964
Right.
Nope. Your metabolism does not need rebooting, and not everyone is insulin sensitive. Fasting is personal preference and works for some people, and not for others.
That study you posted was done on "Thirty-four resistance-trained males." How does that even apply here?
I posted two studies, one of men and the other women, as well as different metabolic performance levels. Demonstrates IF works along a spectrum of types.
Nobody said it didn't work.
It works for some people, not for everyone. And,it will only work as to weight loss if you're in a calorie deficit.
You'll catch me intermittently fasting in a cold day in hell because that type of eating plan does not work for me when it comes to calorie control, which is the one necessary component to weight loss.
Not sure why you responded with "nobody said it didn't work". All I did was respond to your previous concern, that one of the studies was done on resistance trained males. And all I said was I also provided another study on women with different metabolic type...demonstrating effectiveness of IF across various conditions. Your MFP profile says that your weight is creeping back. So, not sure what you mean by your strategy working for you. Just saying.
Did you read the paragraph after that one, or were you just looking for something specific to attack on a personal level?
I've been primarily staying out of this because these conversations become circular. IF works as long as you remain in a calorie deficit. It can be helpful for a number of specific scenarios. I have seen people who feel that their BED is better managed with IF. If a person tends to prefer a larger meal, having a smaller window will reduce the amount of grazing. It can take some time to adapt to different eating hours than one is used to, but it can work. Whether IF works for an individual, it is still the calorie deficit that leads to weight loss.
What "paragraph after that one" are you referring to?
The paragraph after the one you are referring to in her profile in the text of yours that I highlighted.0 -
nutmegoreo wrote: »fruttibiscotti wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »fruttibiscotti wrote: »fruttibiscotti wrote: »crzycatlady1 wrote: »fruttibiscotti wrote: »The answer to your question is shown in the following study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27737674. This study demonstrates how "intermittent fasting", or IF, works.
By limiting your "eating window" to a limited time span, you create a "fasting" period for the remainder of the day, which allows your body to go into efficient fat-burning.
So, for example, in the study above, the "eating window" was within an 8-hr time period. This is also known as intermittent fasting.
For me, it's a very effective strategy. I've noticed a huge difference if I eat within the established eating window. Also, note that there is also no reduction in food intake. Whatever food you were planning to eat that day is not reduced...just needs to be within the feeding window. I get such huge gains in weight loss for virtually little effort with intermittent fasting.
So, yes. Meal timing is associated to weight loss effectiveness.
I've done IF for years now but if I don't also regulate my calorie intake I gain weight. IF is not a weight loss plan in itself and you still have to be eating at the correct calorie deficit for your weight loss goals while doing it. What many people find though is that doing an eating window is a simple way to help keep calories in check. If I eat in the morning I tend to graze the rest of the day. But, when I break my fast at noon or later then I don't graze/snack and it's easier to hit my calorie targets.
The effectiveness of intermittent fasting has to do with it's ability to improve insulin sensitivity and reboot metabolism. For example, this is shown in the following study, where those with deranged metabolisms demonstrated greater improvement of weight loss through intermittent fasting: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20921964
Right.
Nope. Your metabolism does not need rebooting, and not everyone is insulin sensitive. Fasting is personal preference and works for some people, and not for others.
That study you posted was done on "Thirty-four resistance-trained males," but did not provide weight, age, etc. How does that even apply here? In fact, the question was general with no details as to whether the OP is a "resistance-trained" male. All we know is he's 19 years old.fruttibiscotti wrote: »fruttibiscotti wrote: »crzycatlady1 wrote: »fruttibiscotti wrote: »The answer to your question is shown in the following study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27737674. This study demonstrates how "intermittent fasting", or IF, works.
By limiting your "eating window" to a limited time span, you create a "fasting" period for the remainder of the day, which allows your body to go into efficient fat-burning.
So, for example, in the study above, the "eating window" was within an 8-hr time period. This is also known as intermittent fasting.
For me, it's a very effective strategy. I've noticed a huge difference if I eat within the established eating window. Also, note that there is also no reduction in food intake. Whatever food you were planning to eat that day is not reduced...just needs to be within the feeding window. I get such huge gains in weight loss for virtually little effort with intermittent fasting.
So, yes. Meal timing is associated to weight loss effectiveness.
I've done IF for years now but if I don't also regulate my calorie intake I gain weight. IF is not a weight loss plan in itself and you still have to be eating at the correct calorie deficit for your weight loss goals while doing it. What many people find though is that doing an eating window is a simple way to help keep calories in check. If I eat in the morning I tend to graze the rest of the day. But, when I break my fast at noon or later then I don't graze/snack and it's easier to hit my calorie targets.
The effectiveness of intermittent fasting has to do with it's ability to improve insulin sensitivity and reboot metabolism. For example, this is shown in the following study, where those with deranged metabolisms demonstrated greater improvement of weight loss through intermittent fasting: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20921964
Right.
Nope. Your metabolism does not need rebooting, and not everyone is insulin sensitive. Fasting is personal preference and works for some people, and not for others.
That study you posted was done on "Thirty-four resistance-trained males." How does that even apply here?
I posted two studies, one of men and the other women, as well as different metabolic performance levels. Demonstrates IF works along a spectrum of types.
Nobody said it didn't work.
It works for some people, not for everyone. And,it will only work as to weight loss if you're in a calorie deficit.
You'll catch me intermittently fasting in a cold day in hell because that type of eating plan does not work for me when it comes to calorie control, which is the one necessary component to weight loss.
Not sure why you responded with "nobody said it didn't work". All I did was respond to your previous concern, that one of the studies was done on resistance trained males. And all I said was I also provided another study on women with different metabolic type...demonstrating effectiveness of IF across various conditions. Your MFP profile says that your weight is creeping back. So, not sure what you mean by your strategy working for you. Just saying.
Did you read the paragraph after that one, or were you just looking for something specific to attack on a personal level?
I've been primarily staying out of this because these conversations become circular. IF works as long as you remain in a calorie deficit. It can be helpful for a number of specific scenarios. I have seen people who feel that their BED is better managed with IF. If a person tends to prefer a larger meal, having a smaller window will reduce the amount of grazing. It can take some time to adapt to different eating hours than one is used to, but it can work. Whether IF works for an individual, it is still the calorie deficit that leads to weight loss.
What "paragraph after that one" are you referring to?
The paragraph after the one you are referring to in her profile in the text of yours that I highlighted.
I have no idea what you are talking about.
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