Spirulina, Chlorella, Coconut oil, Cacao, Maca Root, Goji berries and Bee Pollen. Superfoods?
Darton2010
Posts: 137 Member
Hey everyone,
Let me know if any of this stuff is great or over rated. Have you had luck with any of it?
How do you incorporate it into your diet?
Just figured I would ask before I waste my money on over rated products. Thanks
John
Spirulina, Chlorella, Coconut oil, Cacao, Maca Root, Goji berries, Bee Pollen, Organic Apple Cider Vinegar with "Mother"
Let me know if any of this stuff is great or over rated. Have you had luck with any of it?
How do you incorporate it into your diet?
Just figured I would ask before I waste my money on over rated products. Thanks
John
Spirulina, Chlorella, Coconut oil, Cacao, Maca Root, Goji berries, Bee Pollen, Organic Apple Cider Vinegar with "Mother"
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Hype. Use your damn... food diary.8
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Hype....5
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Hype.Darton2010 wrote: »
It doesn't matter if he personally used them or not. Anecdotes are not evidence.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/healthyeating/11158676/The-myth-of-the-superfood.html6 -
They aren't magic. What do you expect them to do? I've eaten cacao, goji berries, and coconut oil. I prefer my bee pollen to stay with the bees.4
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examine.com is a really good resource to check out supplements. It's knowledge and research based - not based on trying to separate the naïve from their hard earned money.
No I don't take any of those listed.
My (unsolicited) advice would be to concentrate on an overall healthy diet and not rely on hyped miracle supplements.4 -
Hype.3
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I can't believe no one posted this yet http://www.aworkoutroutine.com/superfoods/6
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I've tried a few of them and yeah, hype.2
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I use local bee pollen - I find it helps with allergies. Might be a placebo effect. Doesn't do anything for weight loss though.3
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I had to throw a trail mix out a while ago because it had goji berries in it that tasted horrid. I remember not liking them particularly the first time I tried them, but this time they were inedible. I find it hard to believe I can't get the nutrients I need eating food I like.
I used coconut oil to cook with for a short period of time till I did some reading. We use it on occasion here now in certain dishes, but because of its flavour not any super powers.
My husband took bee pollen back when I first met him in 1978. Disgusting stuff. I'm surprised it's still a thing.
Nothing wrong with looking around and experimenting a bit as long as it doesn't distract you from a good overall diet.
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Darton2010 wrote: »Hey everyone,
Let me know if any of this stuff is great or over rated. Have you had luck with any of it?
How do you incorporate it into your diet?
Just figured I would ask before I waste my money on over rated products. Thanks
John
Spirulina, Chlorella, Coconut oil, Cacao, Maca Root, Goji berries, Bee Pollen, Organic Apple Cider Vinegar with "Mother"
I hesitate to respond to this post, since I'm sure there are many people much smarter than me who will jump in to disagree.
With that said, I typically take the following daily: Cod Liver Oil for Omega 3 to aid heart/brain health, and Spirulina /Chorella for chlorophyll to help maintain cell membranes (if memory serves me, I think chlorophyll helps cells maintain elasticity as we age).
In answer to your question: Do I feel a big difference from these? No. Do I think they are providing some health benefit? Yes, or I wouldn't buy them.
I also include coconut oil and/or cacao occasionally, (cause I enjoy eating both) but I really rely on Epsom Salt baths to provide me with magnesium. I definitely feel relief in my leg muscles after a 15-20 minute Epsom Salt soak. I typically do this after my long runs on weekends.
Summary: My goal is to try to eat a high quality diet that and provides lots of energy, so I can continue to be very active as I age. (I'm 59). I don't believe the items I mentioned will provide any SUPERFOOD benefit to me in losing fat or gaining muscle. That is not my intent in taking them. I do believe that they can be helpful as part of my long term effort to eat a diet that provides me with the best health possible as I age.
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Just for kicks, I followed an earlier poster's suggestion above and went to examine.com to refresh my fuzzy memory . Here's an interesting editors note regarding Spirulina:
Editors' Thoughts on Spirulina
C-Phycocyanin; the molecule that pinpoints NADPH oxidase as central to disease processes and its inhibition now therapeutic.
I really did not see this coming, I though Spirulina would have just been some hippy thing to consume for the B12 that is kinda healthy (like Chlorella turned out to be) but then C-Phycocyanin showed up and rocked my world.
I love this compound.
And yes, there is a study saying this can reduce arsenic buildup in the body. Guess what compound actually has evidence for detoxification rather than just being needlessly said to 'detoxify'? This guy.
Kurtis Frank1 -
Cacao: I buy it because I really like the taste of it. I don't consider it to be any more nutritionally effective than cocoa powder, a food that we already know to be rich in vitamins and antioxidants. I like it in smoothies and mixed with mashed sweet potatoes.
Maca root: I put this in smoothies sometimes -- it has some vitamins and fiber and it adds a malty taste that I really enjoy.
Coconut oil: I love the taste and texture of coconut oil. It's amazing to saute vegetables or for desserts.
I don't really pay much attention to whether or not something is a superfood, but I enjoy these foods enough to make them worth it for me. My diet is varied enough in vitamin-rich foods that I wouldn't even begin to know if these specific foods "made a difference" for me. I'm usually eating different foods everyday, so I would just have to go by how I felt the day after and that doesn't seem like a very rational way to determine if they have an actual benefit.4 -
Darton2010 wrote: »Hey everyone,
Let me know if any of this stuff is great or over rated. Have you had luck with any of it?
How do you incorporate it into your diet?
Just figured I would ask before I waste my money on over rated products. Thanks
John
Spirulina, Chlorella, Coconut oil, Cacao, Maca Root, Goji berries, Bee Pollen, Organic Apple Cider Vinegar with "Mother"
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
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"Superfoods" is just good, clever marketing. That's not to say that there aren't good nutritional properties in these things...but "superfood" is just marketing.
I use coconut oil regularly as I enjoy the flavor...I also use olive oil, avocado oil, and butter a lot as well. Ironically, not so long ago, coconut oil was one of the greatest dietary demons on the planet...so much so that movie theaters were required to stop using it for their popcorn...now it's a "superfood"...go figure.
I eat a pretty healthy and varied diet...it would be impossible to say if any "superfood" made any difference whatsoever...while I don't consume much of which is on your list, I do consume many other "superfoods"...like avocados, blueberries, etc...I consume them because I like them, not because I'm convinced that they have super powers.2 -
Darton2010 wrote: »Hey everyone,
Let me know if any of this stuff is great or over rated. Have you had luck with any of it?
How do you incorporate it into your diet?
Just figured I would ask before I waste my money on over rated products. Thanks
John
Spirulina, Chlorella, Coconut oil, Cacao, Maca Root, Goji berries, Bee Pollen, Organic Apple Cider Vinegar with "Mother"
A.C.E. Certified Personal and Group Fitness Trainer
IDEA Fitness member
Kickboxing Certified Instructor
Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Yes I did but on this one asked about the ingredients listed above, if you have experience with any let me know. Thanks
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And thanks for the replies, I just wanted to throw the definition of super food out.
A superfood can essentially be classified as any food item that contains an extremely dense concentration of vital nutrients, vitamins and/or minerals, as well as antioxidants, good fats, healthy enzymes, or other healthy properties that help to treat, lower the risk of or prevent specific diseases and maladies.
I'm mainly after foods that are dense Nutrients, Vitamins ext ext. I don't expect anything to be used as a medicine or be life changing, just adding to the diet. Please don't get hung up on the commercial term "Superfood"0 -
Darton2010 wrote: »And thanks for the replies, I just wanted to throw the definition of super food out.
A superfood can essentially be classified as any food item that contains an extremely dense concentration of vital nutrients, vitamins and/or minerals, as well as antioxidants, good fats, healthy enzymes, or other healthy properties that help to treat, lower the risk of or prevent specific diseases and maladies.
I'm mainly after foods that are dense Nutrients, Vitamins ext ext. I don't expect anything to be used as a medicine or be life changing, just adding to the diet. Please don't get hung up on the commercial term "Superfood"
But this is just a tiny portion of foods that are dense in nutrients and the vast majority of those foods never get the "superfood" term. Since it is a commercial term used to selectively identify certain faddish foods, how is it possible to discuss it without addressing the term itself?
Otherwise, why ask about goji berries and not blackberries? The term is exactly why you selected this specific grouping of foods, so the term itself is worth discussing.6 -
singingflutelady wrote: »I can't believe no one posted this yet http://www.aworkoutroutine.com/superfoods/
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Darton2010 wrote: »And thanks for the replies, I just wanted to throw the definition of super food out.
A superfood can essentially be classified as any food item that contains an extremely dense concentration of vital nutrients, vitamins and/or minerals, as well as antioxidants, good fats, healthy enzymes, or other healthy properties that help to treat, lower the risk of or prevent specific diseases and maladies.
I'm mainly after foods that are dense Nutrients, Vitamins ext ext. I don't expect anything to be used as a medicine or be life changing, just adding to the diet. Please don't get hung up on the commercial term "Superfood"
If you're mainly after foods that are nutrient dense, just eat mostly whole foods...get in your servings of veg and fruit daily...eat whole grains, legumes, lentils, whole food starches like potatoes and sweet potatoes and other root vegetables...eat lean sourced protein and healthy fat...
You specifically picked foods that are included in this commercial list of "superfoods", so I don't know how it can't be in the discussion...but frankly, I wouldn't worry about whether or not a goji berry has slightly more antioxidants or something than some other berry that's not on the list...just eat a lot of whole foods.5 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »Darton2010 wrote: »And thanks for the replies, I just wanted to throw the definition of super food out.
A superfood can essentially be classified as any food item that contains an extremely dense concentration of vital nutrients, vitamins and/or minerals, as well as antioxidants, good fats, healthy enzymes, or other healthy properties that help to treat, lower the risk of or prevent specific diseases and maladies.
I'm mainly after foods that are dense Nutrients, Vitamins ext ext. I don't expect anything to be used as a medicine or be life changing, just adding to the diet. Please don't get hung up on the commercial term "Superfood"
If you're mainly after foods that are nutrient dense, just eat mostly whole foods...get in your servings of veg and fruit daily...eat whole grains, legumes, lentils, whole food starches like potatoes and sweet potatoes and other root vegetables...eat lean sourced protein and healthy fat...
You specifically picked foods that are included in this commercial list of "superfoods", so I don't know how it can't be in the discussion...but frankly, I wouldn't worry about whether or not a goji berry has slightly more antioxidants or something than some other berry that's not on the list...just eat a lot of whole foods.
I put them in the list because those are all stuff I have never tried or tasted before, there more "exotic" and not usually found in the grocery store. Before I specifically go on the hunt for them I decided to come here instead.
So far on the list the only one I have been convinced enough to buy is coconut oil, mainly for cooking, it just sounds like a way better oil than olive, mostly I cook in butter.
I guess what I'm after is something I can't get with local foods like blue berries, bananas, veggies ext ext. so far I'm not seeing any but haven't spent hours on the internet comparing them lol, I don't have time for that so I posted here and see what people thought of them.
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Hype! Eat all foods and you will be covered.3
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I use coconut oil on most days. I eat for ketosis and the MCTs in coconut oil help me achieve that.
I love cacao with nuts. Less sugar and a chocolaty treat.
Years ago I used to use bee pollen to sweeten my oatmeal.0 -
Superfood us just a buzzword to market items.
That being said, I love coconut oil for both cooking and my beauty routine, and raw cacao nibs in my banana ice cream are my jam.0 -
May want to have a look at this in regards to coconut oil. Rapeseed oil is cheaper, with just as many if not more health benefits.
It depends on your needs. Canola oil has K and E (I believe) but no MCT's. MCT's are great for ketosis and helpful in insulin resistance.
It sort of depends on if you believe that saturated fats are bad for you or not.0 -
I've tried them ALL, I went through a natural phase... The only two I stuck with are coconut oil and Bee pollen. I use coconut oil in my smoothies sometimes, and bee pollen completely eradicated my hay fever, no more sneezing fits and runny eyes and nose all day.
Maca tasted disgusting and i ended throwing it away, same with ACV, after a while i couldn't face drinking it anymore! It completely turned me off vinegar of any sort.0 -
I prefer my bee pollen to stay with the bees.
i kind of miss bee pollen. it was pretty horrible, but also sort of fascinating. yeah, i was eating bee barf, but i'm nostalgic about the hope and expectations i had about it back in oh, 1985 or so.
bee pollen and vitamin e. ah, the good ol' simple days.
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Darton2010 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »Darton2010 wrote: »And thanks for the replies, I just wanted to throw the definition of super food out.
A superfood can essentially be classified as any food item that contains an extremely dense concentration of vital nutrients, vitamins and/or minerals, as well as antioxidants, good fats, healthy enzymes, or other healthy properties that help to treat, lower the risk of or prevent specific diseases and maladies.
I'm mainly after foods that are dense Nutrients, Vitamins ext ext. I don't expect anything to be used as a medicine or be life changing, just adding to the diet. Please don't get hung up on the commercial term "Superfood"
If you're mainly after foods that are nutrient dense, just eat mostly whole foods...get in your servings of veg and fruit daily...eat whole grains, legumes, lentils, whole food starches like potatoes and sweet potatoes and other root vegetables...eat lean sourced protein and healthy fat...
You specifically picked foods that are included in this commercial list of "superfoods", so I don't know how it can't be in the discussion...but frankly, I wouldn't worry about whether or not a goji berry has slightly more antioxidants or something than some other berry that's not on the list...just eat a lot of whole foods.
I put them in the list because those are all stuff I have never tried or tasted before, there more "exotic" and not usually found in the grocery store. Before I specifically go on the hunt for them I decided to come here instead.
Coconut oil isn't exotic at all, and is at every grocery store I've been to. It's currently annoyingly faddish, but it's quite taste and IMO tastes better with some things than olive oil (which I use more often) or butter. I don't think it's more "nutrient dense" than other oils, but there's nothing wrong with it. I feel exactly the same on days when I use coconut oil as on days I solely use olive oil or butter -- none of them are such a major part of my calories that it should matter.
Haven't tried any of the other things (except I've had goji berries in a few things, not things I made at home). I really like ACV, but not for "medicinal" or nutrient purposes and haven't tried it with the mother. I eat tons of fermented things and yogurt, so don't feel compelled to seek out other things like that just because.0
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