Thoughts on drinking diet cokes, etc
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JoeMacCready wrote: »Worry more about drinking enough water. I like diet sodas too, but I aim to drink 2 gallons of water per day so I'm probably not going to drink much soda because I'm too full!! 2 gallons is a lot, I know; even if you drank 1 per day you'd probably see your soda consumption drop by default.
2 gallons a day is excessive and not needed in most people/could lead to an electrolyte imbalance.9 -
I think over time there will be a connection between artificial sweeteners and something negative happening to our bodies but at this point who knows? I see diet drinks as empty calories and zero nutritional value, like water. The difference is water is free and unlikely to cause many problems down the road. Once I got used to drinking water or unsweet tea I prefered them. You are free to drink what you like but you may get a kick out of a game I play during my morning run. I count how many semi trucks with coke or pepsi pass me, its usually between five and seven 18 wheeler loads.
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stevencloser wrote: »I think over time there will be a connection between artificial sweeteners and something negative happening to our bodies but at this point who knows? I see diet drinks as empty calories and zero nutritional value, like water. The difference is water is free and unlikely to cause many problems down the road. Once I got used to drinking water or unsweet tea I prefered them. You are free to drink what you like but you may get a kick out of a game I play during my morning run. I count how many semi trucks with coke or pepsi pass me, its usually between five and seven 18 wheeler loads.
50 years of intensive research and we've got nothing bad on it. I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.
That may be true but I feel a connection between artificial sweeteners and diabetes may be found. Anyway you may notice I have a lot of "I feel" and "May be" followed by "who knows" so really I got nothing. On the other hand I challenge you to find healthy benefits to drinking them. As stated I don't care if anyone likes or drinks them, I am just cheap and would rather not drink them.
Hydration. Staying hydrated seems to be pretty healthy.
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stevencloser wrote: »I think over time there will be a connection between artificial sweeteners and something negative happening to our bodies but at this point who knows? I see diet drinks as empty calories and zero nutritional value, like water. The difference is water is free and unlikely to cause many problems down the road. Once I got used to drinking water or unsweet tea I prefered them. You are free to drink what you like but you may get a kick out of a game I play during my morning run. I count how many semi trucks with coke or pepsi pass me, its usually between five and seven 18 wheeler loads.
50 years of intensive research and we've got nothing bad on it. I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.
That may be true but I feel a connection between artificial sweeteners and diabetes may be found.Anyway you may notice I have a lot of "I feel" and "May be" followed by "who knows" so really I got nothing. On the other hand I challenge you to find healthy benefits to drinking them. As stated I don't care if anyone likes or drinks them, I am just cheap and would rather not drink them.
And indirectly, going into a 3rd world country with water sanitation issues, I'd rather drink a diet soda than trust their water is safer to drink.
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Brocksterdanza wrote: »Going the other way was in reference to the thought that drinking diet soda and the artificial sweeteners makes you crave more high sugar, other foods... sorry for confusion
This often gets brought up that people believe artificial sweeteners may contribute to cravings for sweet foods.... but I don't understand. You were consuming the Diet Pepsi, did you have cravings for sweet foods? Why would you rely on what other people say might happen when you have your own individual experience to fall back on?
Additionally, you said you drank the diet soda during your initial weight loss period, then gave them up and over time gained some weight back. What was your weight loss method you were using when losing? Was it successful? Were you following a particular program? Using MFP to log calories? Have you been logging during the gaining period? What has changed?
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Diet soda hasn't been linked to cancer or weight gain in any reputable sources. It doesn't lead to anything (besides keeping me up all night to work on research if I drink it alongside of coffee/espresso). I've lost 70-ish pounds drinking one or two a day.4
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I've lost almost 50 lbs this year and diet soda has been my constant companion. I feel like it is my ONE vice left, and they can pry it out of my cold dead hands. If my doctor tells me "Great! You've lost 50 lbs! Now we really gotta talk about your Diet Pepsi habit." then I might consider it. But he hasn't mentioned it yet so I'm not giving it up. I drink about 4 12-oz cans per day.3
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I don't drink them, mostly because the taste is grim, and some of the combinations give me a headache.
It seems a bit odd that it's the only thing you want to hang your weight change on. Isn't there anything else that coluld have contributed? like portion creep, relaxed logging, less activity, more cheat days, etc? May be worth looking at those sort of things in the first instance.
I second reading the post below.
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1308408/why-aspartame-isnt-scary/p1
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Brocksterdanza wrote: »Going the other way was in reference to the thought that drinking diet soda and the artificial sweeteners makes you crave more high sugar, other foods... sorry for confusionstevencloser wrote: »I think over time there will be a connection between artificial sweeteners and something negative happening to our bodies but at this point who knows? I see diet drinks as empty calories and zero nutritional value, like water. The difference is water is free and unlikely to cause many problems down the road. Once I got used to drinking water or unsweet tea I prefered them. You are free to drink what you like but you may get a kick out of a game I play during my morning run. I count how many semi trucks with coke or pepsi pass me, its usually between five and seven 18 wheeler loads.
50 years of intensive research and we've got nothing bad on it. I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.
That may be true but I feel a connection between artificial sweeteners and diabetes may be found. Anyway you may notice I have a lot of "I feel" and "May be" followed by "who knows" so really I got nothing. On the other hand I challenge you to find healthy benefits to drinking them. As stated I don't care if anyone likes or drinks them, I am just cheap and would rather not drink them.
Then you have no idea how either diabetes or artificial sweeteners work.8 -
Carlos_421 wrote:Then you have no idea how either diabetes or artificial sweeteners work.
The only correlation between artificial sweeteners and diabetes is that diabetics tend to use artificial sweeteners to help control their diabetes when they want sweets.
correlation != causation ... especially in this case.5 -
stevencloser wrote: »I think over time there will be a connection between artificial sweeteners and something negative happening to our bodies but at this point who knows? I see diet drinks as empty calories and zero nutritional value, like water. The difference is water is free and unlikely to cause many problems down the road. Once I got used to drinking water or unsweet tea I prefered them. You are free to drink what you like but you may get a kick out of a game I play during my morning run. I count how many semi trucks with coke or pepsi pass me, its usually between five and seven 18 wheeler loads.
50 years of intensive research and we've got nothing bad on it. I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.
That may be true but I feel a connection between artificial sweeteners and diabetes may be found. Anyway you may notice I have a lot of "I feel" and "May be" followed by "who knows" so really I got nothing. On the other hand I challenge you to find healthy benefits to drinking them. As stated I don't care if anyone likes or drinks them, I am just cheap and would rather not drink them.
Drinking free water for financial reasons is fair enough - I mostly drink free water too, along with cheap instant coffee.
But sometimes I have a diet soda, around 2 or 3 cans per week.
I agree it confers no more health benifits than water- ie like water provides no calorie hydration.
But thats fine with me - I consume plenty of things without the prime reason being the health benifit - just because, you know, I like enjoying food.
I do not kid myself that I am ever eating chocolate or cake ,for the health benifits.
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paperpudding wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »I think over time there will be a connection between artificial sweeteners and something negative happening to our bodies but at this point who knows? I see diet drinks as empty calories and zero nutritional value, like water. The difference is water is free and unlikely to cause many problems down the road. Once I got used to drinking water or unsweet tea I prefered them. You are free to drink what you like but you may get a kick out of a game I play during my morning run. I count how many semi trucks with coke or pepsi pass me, its usually between five and seven 18 wheeler loads.
50 years of intensive research and we've got nothing bad on it. I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.
That may be true but I feel a connection between artificial sweeteners and diabetes may be found. Anyway you may notice I have a lot of "I feel" and "May be" followed by "who knows" so really I got nothing. On the other hand I challenge you to find healthy benefits to drinking them. As stated I don't care if anyone likes or drinks them, I am just cheap and would rather not drink them.
Drinking free water for financial reasons is fair enough - I mostly drink free water too, along with cheap instant coffee.
But sometimes I have a diet soda, around 2 or 3 cans per week.
I agree it confers no more health benifits than water- ie like water provides no calorie hydration.
But thats fine with me - I consume plenty of things without the prime reason being the health benifit - just because, you know, I like enjoying food.
I do not kid myself that I am ever eating chocolate or cake ,for the health benifits.
https://www.fromthegrapevine.com/health/chocolate-cake-breakfast-new-research-says-it-might-actually-help-you-lose-weight
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I love em but they can get pricey.0
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snickerscharlie wrote: »paperpudding wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »I think over time there will be a connection between artificial sweeteners and something negative happening to our bodies but at this point who knows? I see diet drinks as empty calories and zero nutritional value, like water. The difference is water is free and unlikely to cause many problems down the road. Once I got used to drinking water or unsweet tea I prefered them. You are free to drink what you like but you may get a kick out of a game I play during my morning run. I count how many semi trucks with coke or pepsi pass me, its usually between five and seven 18 wheeler loads.
50 years of intensive research and we've got nothing bad on it. I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.
That may be true but I feel a connection between artificial sweeteners and diabetes may be found. Anyway you may notice I have a lot of "I feel" and "May be" followed by "who knows" so really I got nothing. On the other hand I challenge you to find healthy benefits to drinking them. As stated I don't care if anyone likes or drinks them, I am just cheap and would rather not drink them.
Drinking free water for financial reasons is fair enough - I mostly drink free water too, along with cheap instant coffee.
But sometimes I have a diet soda, around 2 or 3 cans per week.
I agree it confers no more health benifits than water- ie like water provides no calorie hydration.
But thats fine with me - I consume plenty of things without the prime reason being the health benifit - just because, you know, I like enjoying food.
I do not kid myself that I am ever eating chocolate or cake ,for the health benifits.
https://www.fromthegrapevine.com/health/chocolate-cake-breakfast-new-research-says-it-might-actually-help-you-lose-weight
Reminds me of...
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I think diet soda is fine from a weight loss point of view, but soda is terrible for your teeth because of the low ph.
I used to drink a crazy amount of diet soda but I gave it up a couple of years ago because my dentist said I should.0 -
My thought ... I just downed a glass of diet coke after getting in from a 4 km walk on a hot, sunny afternoon.
It was good!1 -
I always like the joke , diet sodas don't work , I have never seen a skinny person drinking one ... Or the guy at burger joint ,, give me double burger ,large fries and diet soda lol
Good luck0 -
Too bad carbonated tea doesn't exist.0
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red99ryder wrote: »I always like the joke , diet sodas don't work , I have never seen a skinny person drinking one ... Or the guy at burger joint ,, give me double burger ,large fries and diet soda lol
Good luck
I've seen plenty of people of various weight levels drink them - including myself, who is in a healthy wright range.
I also dont get this point about double burger and diet coke - why can't one decide a double burger is worth splurging calories on but regular soda is not?
I don't eat double burgers ( no reason, I just don't like burgers much) but I would totally do same with other high calorie foods - eg have pizza and diet soda.
I like pizza, it is worth splurging calories on. I like diet soda as much as regular so regular isn't worth wasting calories on.
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starryphoenix wrote: »Too bad carbonated tea doesn't exist.
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