Do you feel suppliments, protein are necessities in weight-loss?

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  • jennybearlv
    jennybearlv Posts: 1,519 Member
    I take creatine daily and add protein powder into my diet to assist with my strength training goals. I take no supplements to aid weight loss and have lost 35 pounds with 100 or so to go. A calorie deficit is all you need to lose fat. Eat less than you burn. Getting enough protein in your diet along with lifting heavy will help you retain muscle. As I understand it creatine and BCAA's work best for increasing strength in people that don't get enough protein in their diets and are useless for anyone that isn't lifting. Protein supplements are really a food that is very high in the protein macro like lean meats. Eat a protein shake or a chicken breast, doesn't really matter.
  • DebSozo
    DebSozo Posts: 2,578 Member
    edited January 2017
    AnvilHead wrote: »
    Brocksterdanza wrote: »
    Do most that have over 50 pounds to lose use suppliments to aid the process? Such as bcaa, protein, creatine, etc?

    The only thing that's necessary for weight loss is a calorie deficit. Supplements are things you can take for specific reasons and can be helpful for meeting certain goals, but none of them are necessary.

    Eric Helms recently authored two excellent, very comprehensive books (The Muscle and Strength Pyramids), in which he lays out evidence-based information about diet/nutrition and training. He has a pyramid for both aspects, and here's what his nutrition pyramid looks like (notice where supplements rank in importance - dead last in the hierarchy):

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    Yaay for evidence-based training. I want to implement what works and ignore/not worry about what doesn't. There are so many time-wasting diet fads out there!

    I'm so thankful for MFP and for people who share information like this muscle and strength pyramid. My quality of life has improved since I have learned about and changed these important elements. It takes time, but wow-- so worth it!

    Calories are most important for weight management but there are other important components for good health, vitality, strength, and well being.
  • UltraTacks
    UltraTacks Posts: 230 Member
    Creatine is ok but you don't need it and most people who take it don't take it properly and don't drink enough water. Need to drink minimum 4 litres of water in addition to any other liquids
  • DebSozo
    DebSozo Posts: 2,578 Member
    edited January 2017
    Eating enough protein is important to preserve muscle when losing weight.
  • wochlikgm
    wochlikgm Posts: 131 Member
    I tried them, and didn't see any difference to what I did without them. My answer is no. What worked for me is strict discipline in terms of the equation calories in vs calories out.
  • jennybearlv
    jennybearlv Posts: 1,519 Member
    UltraTacks wrote: »
    Creatine is ok but you don't need it and most people who take it don't take it properly and don't drink enough water. Need to drink minimum 4 litres of water in addition to any other liquids

    Please elaborate on the proper way to take creatine and why anyone would need to drink 4 liters of water with it.
  • AnvilHead
    AnvilHead Posts: 18,343 Member
    DebSozo wrote: »
    AnvilHead wrote: »
    Brocksterdanza wrote: »
    Do most that have over 50 pounds to lose use suppliments to aid the process? Such as bcaa, protein, creatine, etc?

    The only thing that's necessary for weight loss is a calorie deficit. Supplements are things you can take for specific reasons and can be helpful for meeting certain goals, but none of them are necessary.

    Eric Helms recently authored two excellent, very comprehensive books (The Muscle and Strength Pyramids), in which he lays out evidence-based information about diet/nutrition and training. He has a pyramid for both aspects, and here's what his nutrition pyramid looks like (notice where supplements rank in importance - dead last in the hierarchy):

    lf1jzb4c0rge.png

    Yaay for evidence-based training. I want to implement what works and ignore/not worry about what doesn't. There are so many time-wasting diet fads out there!

    I'm so thankful for MFP and for people who share information like this muscle and strength pyramid. My quality of life has improved since I have learned about and changed these important elements. It takes time, but wow-- so worth it!

    Calories are most important for weight management but there are other important components for good health, vitality, strength, and well being.

    Here's the beginning of a five-part YouTube series Eric did on the Nutrition Pyramid. If you watch all five parts, he lays it out in more detail than you ever thought you needed to know:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAvW6xBZjSk
  • DebSozo
    DebSozo Posts: 2,578 Member
    AnvilHead wrote: »
    DebSozo wrote: »
    AnvilHead wrote: »
    Brocksterdanza wrote: »
    Do most that have over 50 pounds to lose use suppliments to aid the process? Such as bcaa, protein, creatine, etc?

    The only thing that's necessary for weight loss is a calorie deficit. Supplements are things you can take for specific reasons and can be helpful for meeting certain goals, but none of them are necessary.

    Eric Helms recently authored two excellent, very comprehensive books (The Muscle and Strength Pyramids), in which he lays out evidence-based information about diet/nutrition and training. He has a pyramid for both aspects, and here's what his nutrition pyramid looks like (notice where supplements rank in importance - dead last in the hierarchy):

    lf1jzb4c0rge.png

    Yaay for evidence-based training. I want to implement what works and ignore/not worry about what doesn't. There are so many time-wasting diet fads out there!

    I'm so thankful for MFP and for people who share information like this muscle and strength pyramid. My quality of life has improved since I have learned about and changed these important elements. It takes time, but wow-- so worth it!

    Calories are most important for weight management but there are other important components for good health, vitality, strength, and well being.

    Here's the beginning of a five-part YouTube series Eric did on the Nutrition Pyramid. If you watch all five parts, he lays it out in more detail than you ever thought you needed to know:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAvW6xBZjSk

    Thanks!!
  • DebSozo
    DebSozo Posts: 2,578 Member
    I've watched three of the five parts so far. This is very timely for me-- especially part three as it is making so much sense and is helpful for me to understand how to modify what I'm doing to maximize efforts to meet specific personal goals. -- excellent series.
  • callsitlikeiseeit
    callsitlikeiseeit Posts: 8,626 Member
    there is no magic pill of any kind, unless its prescribed medication for a health issue. vitamins, nutrition, protein, macros, whatever, can all be met by a proper and well planned diet.

    80 pounds down and not a single supplement in sight.
  • GottaBurnEmAll
    GottaBurnEmAll Posts: 7,722 Member
    Supplements are necessary at all.

    I'm on a few prescribed supplements as part of my migraine protocol, and I enjoy protein shakes, but I certainly don't "need" the protein shakes. I could easily get the protein from food.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,077 Member
    Not necessary. Most people include them because that's what they hear about in a magazine or gym. Weight loss is calorie specific not supplement specific.

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    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
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  • successgal1
    successgal1 Posts: 996 Member
    I supplement to fill holes in my nutrition/macros that it can be hard to fill with food, calorie-wise.
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