Planet Fitness Is The Worst Gym In Existence
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lift a beer bottle and cheeseburger and send me the $100
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kshama2001 wrote: »Michael190lbs wrote: »I went there 60 lb dumbbells was the highest weight killed it for me. Powerhouse gym I currently belong to has 190 lbs dumbbells I use 110 for several lifts so it just made sense. Money $235 a year vs $120 a year its worth it to be in an atmosphere of heavy lifters rather than offending a Planet Fitness member.. The planet fitness "Judgement free" commercials are a JOKE..
No one starts out using 110 let alone 190 pound dumbbells. Clearly PF is not the gym for you. But I think it serves an important niche. I'm sorry the advertising offends a lot of you, but you're not the target audience.
I'm currently going to a women-only gym. It's right around the corner from my house, which is where I work. I love being able to go at lunch time. The dumbbells only go up to 55 pounds. Right now the highest I'm using is 30. Should I regularly need heavier weights, I will look for an alternative. And I'll probably pick the PF that is going in down the street, as I've learned that location is really, really important for me.
I'll save my outrage regarding corporate policy for banks like Wells Fargo and meat/dairy producing companies that treat their animals cruelly.
Women's only gyms..dont get me started...all
These years striving for equality, to be able to even go to a gym where men have typically dominated..only to cower and hide because of our insecurity, segregating ourselves because we are uncomfoetable in our bodies. Saddens me to no end. Do not give me the "sleazy leering men" that is extremely rare. It's the modern day equivalent of a burka.11 -
lachiespior wrote: »We have all had bad experiences with gyms and often the people in them, but i continually see Planet Fitness being constantly ridiculed for being extremely judge mental and not caring for their patrons!? I did some research and i found heaps of videos of them even kicking people out of their gym!? I found this article about why PlanetFitness Kills Gains idealtestosterone.com/planet-fitness-mistakes/ and i wanted to know if you guys agree with it? or have your own opinions on the gym? not sure whether to join or not!
What are your goals?
You're going to have different experiences at different locations, that's a given. But does the equipment and atmosphere, the location and cost meet your needs. Don't overthink it.
It's taken me a better part of a year, but I follow a regimen that's a mix of two others and works perfectly for me using only my bodyweight, a suspension trainer and an app. I also have 50lbs of dumbbells I use pretty frequently.
You may not get the olympic level stuff at PF, but if I can barely breath and am making gains and pumped using only what I outlined, in my basement, then you surely can at PF.
What are your goals?
I'd go by that and whether PF can accommodate them. The only reason I never joined is no one on their staff could justify me having to hand over my bank account info for a membership. 2 -
Different gyms for different goals. An elite athlete is unlikely to be a planet fitness user (unless they re being sponsored for PR), just like TRI STAR is unlikely to attract the "just want to drop a few and be healthy"crowd. Find where you fit.1
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It depends on what you are looking for. I have been to one a couple of times. It's not for me.0
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cwolfman13 wrote: »matthewrharden wrote: »I'm a PF member and the entire time I read this article, I thought "What are you talking about?"
My location has never handed out pizza, I got a free t-shirt but it was not the reason I joined, it doesn't have signs telling people not to do certain exercises or talking about steroids, the Lunk Alarm has never gone off (pretty sure it's just a joke), it has dumb bells heavier than 60 pounds, and it has three vertical smith machines, which are basically squat racks.
And to be perfectly honest, this person getting so offended at PF's judgmental judgement free zone made me smile a little. Now they know how some of the rest of us feel when we go to other gyms. I had a membership to Lifetime Fitness for awhile which I hated. I would go at 3 am and there would be guys there as big as The Rock and they would spend more time walking around, looking at (and judging) other people and flexing in the mirror than actually exercising. It intimidated me because I'm a skinny guy and I could never lift as much as them. And everyone says, "Just don't pay attention," but it's hard not to pay attention when you finish a set and out the corner of your eye you see someone who looks like a linebacker staring at you. Is everyone who goes to that kind of gym like that? No. But it happened enough times, I got sick of it and cancelled my membership. I don't get any of that at Planet Fitness, because it seems like everyone there– old, young, short, tall, muscular, skinny, obese– is there for the same reason which is to get in shape and everyone there seems to understand that getting into shape means different things to different people. When I was at Lifetime, the place seemed to be filled with people who thought being in shape meant you had to look like Arnold Schwarzenegger and be able to bench press a Volkswagen 20 times. That's not my goal. If that's your goal (which it seems to be the article's author's goal) then go somewhere else. But if your goal is something simple, then PF isn't a bad place to go. I love my location and I'm glad I signed up there.
Smith machines =/= squat racks, not even close...also, you can't do certain exercises at PF...you can't do Olympic lifts...you can't do dead lifts...they have no bumper plates or platform.
Doing traditional lifts like cleans and snatches and traditional compound movements has nothing to do with wanting to look like Arnold...I'm a cyclist, that would be pretty dumb. And this is exactly why a lot of fitness people complain about PF...you're doing exactly what they do...if you want to do dead lifts, you must be a lunk or huge body builder or something...there are a lot of fit and fitness people who do compound movements and explosive movements like cleans and snatches because they understand the benefit of them for overall fitness...
Your post is basically straight out of PF marketing...
Pretty much sums up exactly what I was going to say, especially the last line.2 -
I'm currently a member of planet fitness and my location is great and very friendly and accepts credit cards there are several of us that go everyday and say hi to each other.1
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Fitnessmom38 wrote: »I'm currenyl
me too actually.0 -
My boyfriend goes to planet fitness and has lost 60lbs and gained a lot of muscle but he complaines about people just sitting at machines not using them. He says some people just stand at the machine and take selfies or just walk around. I understand what you mean about the mindset.Gallowmere1984 wrote: »I think some missed my point. I wasn't speaking to the results being mediocre. Hell, you can go to a riverbed and move rocks around and build muscle. I was talking specifically about the mindset of the people whom their advertising appeals to. The kind of person who is less likely to be going to the gym to improve themselves, than to shut up a spouse, a doctor, whatever. The "I'm trying" but not really trying crowd.
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Planet fitness was my first "real" gym. Prior to going to planet fitness back in 2009 I use to go to an all women's gym. When Planet Fitness showed up it was the greatest thing ever. A "real gym so I thought." Many years down the line what I can say is I've realized Planet Fitness is a basic gym. It's affordable and it's 24 hours. I've been messed with at every Planet Fitness I've ever been to. I'm usually viewed as "the skinny girl" and somebody always finds a way to say something to me but I just complain to corporate and then they know not to bother me. So nobody bothers me anymore. I go workout and listen to my music. I'm not trying to bulk up or build so working out there is fine for me. I stick with the machines because everything else is too heavy.0
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Rebecca0224 wrote: »My boyfriend goes to planet fitness and has lost 60lbs and gained a lot of muscle but he complaines about people just sitting at machines not using them. He says some people just stand at the machine and take selfies or just walk around. I understand what you mean about the mindset.Gallowmere1984 wrote: »I think some missed my point. I wasn't speaking to the results being mediocre. Hell, you can go to a riverbed and move rocks around and build muscle. I was talking specifically about the mindset of the people whom their advertising appeals to. The kind of person who is less likely to be going to the gym to improve themselves, than to shut up a spouse, a doctor, whatever. The "I'm trying" but not really trying crowd.
That happens at most gyms - at least every one of the several I've gone to. It's not a PF-specific behavior.0 -
...I've been messed with at every Planet Fitness I've ever been to. I'm usually viewed as "the skinny girl" and somebody always finds a way to say something to me but I just complain to corporate and then they know not to bother me. So nobody bothers me anymore...
This boggles my mind. It sounds like middle school locker room behavior, not the behavior of grown adults. I personally have never seen this sort of thing happening, and I'm a "skinny girl" myself. Everybody pretty much behaves at my gym. Maybe you just go to a really crappy location with lots of really crappy people as members. Sounds terrible.
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We don't have Planet Fitness here, but for 10 bucks a month i would seriously consider joining!1
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lachiespior wrote: »We have all had bad experiences with gyms and often the people in them, but i continually see Planet Fitness being constantly ridiculed for being extremely judge mental and not caring for their patrons!? I did some research and i found heaps of videos of them even kicking people out of their gym!? I found this article about why PlanetFitness Kills Gains idealtestosterone.com/planet-fitness-mistakes/ and i wanted to know if you guys agree with it? or have your own opinions on the gym? not sure whether to join or not!
Planet Fitness is THE WORST GYM IN THE WORLD!!! They do kick people out and it's a "no judge zone", BS!! They judge anyone whom is bigger than the average size person. If you are trying to lift heavy and drop a weight, a *kitten* buzzer goes off, even if it's an accident.
Best part is they give pizza to their guests every month!!! WTF is that all about...they want people to stay overweight...This Brand sucks...
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it serves a purpose.
It is good for people who want to check a box- or who have no need to do big movements.
It's also a SPLENDID cheap 2nd gym. I've considered getting a 10$ pass to the local gym myself- because 10$ and free pizza- I cannot even order pizza that cheap. so if I get 1 whole pizza out of it a month- it's paid for itself and I"ve eaten- WIN! free food = mustacian savings- and I'm all about that life.
I HATE their hypocritical advertising- because they are the judgiest gym alive. Plain and simple. I get that it's marketing- but it's hypocrisy at it's finest.
Otherwise- meh- I don't bother.
It's not a gym for me regularly- I'd gladly use it as a second gym- but otherwise it suits people fine- I think people are delusional that it's a safe space- or it's not judgmental- but whatever that's 100% not my problem.
We posts like this all the time- and I'm quite frankly not sure why you posted it other than to stir the proverbial pot.
They definitely judge people...THEY SUCK.
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My issue is that they claim to be a "non judgemental" zone, except to bodybuilders (who are even polite) and gym bunnies (based on their commercials). If you're gonna call yourself that, don't be a hypocrite.
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My issue is that they claim to be a "non judgemental" zone, except to bodybuilders (who are even polite) and gym bunnies (based on their commercials). If you're gonna call yourself that, don't be a hypocrite.
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Agreed!!!
One of their flat bench lock and pin device broke when I was using dumbbells so I dropped both of them. They sounded the buzzer afterwards. These pieces of *kitten* never even explored to see why I did this...
I walked up to the front and told them what happened and said if they ever buzzed that *kitten* again at me I'll shove that bell up their *kitten*.
I canceled my membership the next day.
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WalkingDeadFrank wrote: »My issue is that they claim to be a "non judgemental" zone, except to bodybuilders (who are even polite) and gym bunnies (based on their commercials). If you're gonna call yourself that, don't be a hypocrite.
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Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition
Agreed!!!
One of their flat bench lock and pin device broke when I was using dumbbells so I dropped both of them. They sounded the buzzer afterwards. These pieces of *kitten* never even explored to see why I did this...
I walked up to the front and told them what happened and said if they ever buzzed that *kitten* again at me I'll shove that bell up their *kitten*.
I canceled my membership the next day.
I'm sure they threw a party.9 -
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I personally don't like their advertising, but the facility I go to itself isn't bad. I chose it because I am not in a place financially where I can pay more than $10 a month. It works for my needs right now, which are an indoor space to do cardio that isn't on the top floor of an apartment building. Also my strength leaves a lot to be desired, so I'm still lifting light enough weights that what they have works for me for now.
If I get to a place where I need more lifting options or heavier weights and a better situation financially, I'll switch to something that better suits my needs then.2 -
Rebecca0224 wrote: »My boyfriend goes to planet fitness and has lost 60lbs and gained a lot of muscle but he complaines about people just sitting at machines not using them. He says some people just stand at the machine and take selfies or just walk around. I understand what you mean about the mindset.Gallowmere1984 wrote: »I think some missed my point. I wasn't speaking to the results being mediocre. Hell, you can go to a riverbed and move rocks around and build muscle. I was talking specifically about the mindset of the people whom their advertising appeals to. The kind of person who is less likely to be going to the gym to improve themselves, than to shut up a spouse, a doctor, whatever. The "I'm trying" but not really trying crowd.
While I have seen people clearly just goofing off, there are legitimate reasons to sit at a machine - the heavier you lift, the longer you have to rest in between sets.
Not resting long enough in between sets was one of two reasons why I injured myself last year. Sitting bores me, so I do knee strengthening exercises and other things in between sets.0 -
JoyMaillet wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »Michael190lbs wrote: »I went there 60 lb dumbbells was the highest weight killed it for me. Powerhouse gym I currently belong to has 190 lbs dumbbells I use 110 for several lifts so it just made sense. Money $235 a year vs $120 a year its worth it to be in an atmosphere of heavy lifters rather than offending a Planet Fitness member.. The planet fitness "Judgement free" commercials are a JOKE..
No one starts out using 110 let alone 190 pound dumbbells. Clearly PF is not the gym for you. But I think it serves an important niche. I'm sorry the advertising offends a lot of you, but you're not the target audience.
I'm currently going to a women-only gym. It's right around the corner from my house, which is where I work. I love being able to go at lunch time. The dumbbells only go up to 55 pounds. Right now the highest I'm using is 30. Should I regularly need heavier weights, I will look for an alternative. And I'll probably pick the PF that is going in down the street, as I've learned that location is really, really important for me.
I'll save my outrage regarding corporate policy for banks like Wells Fargo and meat/dairy producing companies that treat their animals cruelly.
Women's only gyms..dont get me started...all
These years striving for equality, to be able to even go to a gym where men have typically dominated..only to cower and hide because of our insecurity, segregating ourselves because we are uncomfoetable in our bodies. Saddens me to no end. Do not give me the "sleazy leering men" that is extremely rare. It's the modern day equivalent of a burka.
Again, it's another way to get people, in this case women, who feel intimidated/uncomfortable about a regular gym in the door.
My gym doesn't do any marketing around the absence of "sleazy leering men" - it simply says "for women."
I started going to this gym thinking it and the concept was lame, and fully intending to move on once my free week was over, but I do yoga moves in between sets, and it's nice not feeling self conscious about sticking my butt in the air, etc.
I am a woman who has mostly held blue and white collar jobs dominated by men, as well as serving in a very macho specialty in the military. I've had far more male friends than women. The coworkers to whom I am closest are men. The people I turn to for weight lifting advice IRL are men. But despite all that, I am enjoying being in a female-only gym.1 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »I just realized why it annoys me so (to the point that I was wondering why my reaction was so strong): it pretty much is analogous to me of people mocking others for eating arugula, as if there's something wrong with that, or for enjoying supposedly nerdy things like the symphony or reading or some such or for liking school. A bit of a reversal, but same concept, and really bad for society, as well as just dumb and nasty, IMO.
Maybe that's weird. ;-)
Eh, people are always hating on kale, which I grow, eat every day, and currently have in my avatar. The hating doesn't bother me.
Saying "I don't like kale" doesn't bother me (although I also like it).
If people were claiming (as with the dumb arugula thing) that eating kale was something people were doing to show off or be pretentious and that it was something that should be mocked and considered uncool, then I would think that was harmful, yeah.
(See http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/22/AR2008082202958.html: there's a kale reference too, which you might like, although it's funny because once upon a time both were inexpensive foods for not so well off people. I have a cookbook by some Irish vegetarian chef whose name escapes me -- it's all farm to table stuff and seasonal with great photos -- and he has an essay about kale and spinach being uncool when he (or we, the spinach was about the US) were kids, but now it's a long enough divide for them to lose the stigma of being cheap or some such. Anyway, the essay was better than I am at describing it.)When I didn't have a smart phone (and before that when I didn't have a cell phone) I caught a lot of flack for that. Again, not a problem.
Again, different. (I don't think there's a particular desire to make up stupid divisive stereotypes about people who do or don't like or have smart phones, but maybe I missed it.)
Sneering at people for wanting to be good at things or take them seriously, and suggesting that doing so makes you elitist or intimidating or bad people, etc., is simply a way of discouraging people from caring about or doing those things, and I think is used in a way that is actively bad in our culture. Certainly the anti elitist stuff for caring about education or good food is, IMO, and why isn't the sneering at serious gyms the same thing?
Speaking of inexpensive foods for not so well off people, I'm going to be making French Onion Soup using a recipe that starts with beef bones in a slow cooker, and was thinking how peasant is this - bones, onions, bread, and cheese.
Thanks for the link!
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kshama2001 wrote: »JoyMaillet wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »Michael190lbs wrote: »I went there 60 lb dumbbells was the highest weight killed it for me. Powerhouse gym I currently belong to has 190 lbs dumbbells I use 110 for several lifts so it just made sense. Money $235 a year vs $120 a year its worth it to be in an atmosphere of heavy lifters rather than offending a Planet Fitness member.. The planet fitness "Judgement free" commercials are a JOKE..
No one starts out using 110 let alone 190 pound dumbbells. Clearly PF is not the gym for you. But I think it serves an important niche. I'm sorry the advertising offends a lot of you, but you're not the target audience.
I'm currently going to a women-only gym. It's right around the corner from my house, which is where I work. I love being able to go at lunch time. The dumbbells only go up to 55 pounds. Right now the highest I'm using is 30. Should I regularly need heavier weights, I will look for an alternative. And I'll probably pick the PF that is going in down the street, as I've learned that location is really, really important for me.
I'll save my outrage regarding corporate policy for banks like Wells Fargo and meat/dairy producing companies that treat their animals cruelly.
Women's only gyms..dont get me started...all
These years striving for equality, to be able to even go to a gym where men have typically dominated..only to cower and hide because of our insecurity, segregating ourselves because we are uncomfoetable in our bodies. Saddens me to no end. Do not give me the "sleazy leering men" that is extremely rare. It's the modern day equivalent of a burka.
Again, it's another way to get people, in this case women, who feel intimidated/uncomfortable about a regular gym in the door.
My gym doesn't do any marketing around the absence of "sleazy leering men" - it simply says "for women."
I started going to this gym thinking it and the concept was lame, and fully intending to move on once my free week was over, but I do yoga moves in between sets, and it's nice not feeling self conscious about sticking my butt in the air, etc.
I am a woman who has mostly held blue and white collar jobs dominated by men, as well as serving in a very macho specialty in the military. I've had far more male friends than women. The coworkers to whom I am closest are men. The people I turn to for weight lifting advice IRL are men. But despite all that, I am enjoying being in a female-only gym.
So you have no problem with male only segments for the military then? Male only gyms? Are those ok? Maybe some guys don't wanna work out with a bunch of *kitten* around..2 -
JoyMaillet wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »JoyMaillet wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »Michael190lbs wrote: »I went there 60 lb dumbbells was the highest weight killed it for me. Powerhouse gym I currently belong to has 190 lbs dumbbells I use 110 for several lifts so it just made sense. Money $235 a year vs $120 a year its worth it to be in an atmosphere of heavy lifters rather than offending a Planet Fitness member.. The planet fitness "Judgement free" commercials are a JOKE..
No one starts out using 110 let alone 190 pound dumbbells. Clearly PF is not the gym for you. But I think it serves an important niche. I'm sorry the advertising offends a lot of you, but you're not the target audience.
I'm currently going to a women-only gym. It's right around the corner from my house, which is where I work. I love being able to go at lunch time. The dumbbells only go up to 55 pounds. Right now the highest I'm using is 30. Should I regularly need heavier weights, I will look for an alternative. And I'll probably pick the PF that is going in down the street, as I've learned that location is really, really important for me.
I'll save my outrage regarding corporate policy for banks like Wells Fargo and meat/dairy producing companies that treat their animals cruelly.
Women's only gyms..dont get me started...all
These years striving for equality, to be able to even go to a gym where men have typically dominated..only to cower and hide because of our insecurity, segregating ourselves because we are uncomfoetable in our bodies. Saddens me to no end. Do not give me the "sleazy leering men" that is extremely rare. It's the modern day equivalent of a burka.
Again, it's another way to get people, in this case women, who feel intimidated/uncomfortable about a regular gym in the door.
My gym doesn't do any marketing around the absence of "sleazy leering men" - it simply says "for women."
I started going to this gym thinking it and the concept was lame, and fully intending to move on once my free week was over, but I do yoga moves in between sets, and it's nice not feeling self conscious about sticking my butt in the air, etc.
I am a woman who has mostly held blue and white collar jobs dominated by men, as well as serving in a very macho specialty in the military. I've had far more male friends than women. The coworkers to whom I am closest are men. The people I turn to for weight lifting advice IRL are men. But despite all that, I am enjoying being in a female-only gym.
So you have no problem with male only segments for the military then? Male only gyms? Are those ok? Maybe some guys don't wanna work out with a bunch of *kitten* around..
Any answer I give here will wildly derail the thread - feel free to start one in Debate about single sex gyms and I will be happy to participate. Please ping me if you do.0 -
JoyMaillet wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »JoyMaillet wrote: »kshama2001 wrote: »Michael190lbs wrote: »I went there 60 lb dumbbells was the highest weight killed it for me. Powerhouse gym I currently belong to has 190 lbs dumbbells I use 110 for several lifts so it just made sense. Money $235 a year vs $120 a year its worth it to be in an atmosphere of heavy lifters rather than offending a Planet Fitness member.. The planet fitness "Judgement free" commercials are a JOKE..
No one starts out using 110 let alone 190 pound dumbbells. Clearly PF is not the gym for you. But I think it serves an important niche. I'm sorry the advertising offends a lot of you, but you're not the target audience.
I'm currently going to a women-only gym. It's right around the corner from my house, which is where I work. I love being able to go at lunch time. The dumbbells only go up to 55 pounds. Right now the highest I'm using is 30. Should I regularly need heavier weights, I will look for an alternative. And I'll probably pick the PF that is going in down the street, as I've learned that location is really, really important for me.
I'll save my outrage regarding corporate policy for banks like Wells Fargo and meat/dairy producing companies that treat their animals cruelly.
Women's only gyms..dont get me started...all
These years striving for equality, to be able to even go to a gym where men have typically dominated..only to cower and hide because of our insecurity, segregating ourselves because we are uncomfoetable in our bodies. Saddens me to no end. Do not give me the "sleazy leering men" that is extremely rare. It's the modern day equivalent of a burka.
Again, it's another way to get people, in this case women, who feel intimidated/uncomfortable about a regular gym in the door.
My gym doesn't do any marketing around the absence of "sleazy leering men" - it simply says "for women."
I started going to this gym thinking it and the concept was lame, and fully intending to move on once my free week was over, but I do yoga moves in between sets, and it's nice not feeling self conscious about sticking my butt in the air, etc.
I am a woman who has mostly held blue and white collar jobs dominated by men, as well as serving in a very macho specialty in the military. I've had far more male friends than women. The coworkers to whom I am closest are men. The people I turn to for weight lifting advice IRL are men. But despite all that, I am enjoying being in a female-only gym.
So you have no problem with male only segments for the military then? Male only gyms? Are those ok? Maybe some guys don't wanna work out with a bunch of *kitten* around..
However, having a bunch of women motivates men to workout harder, sometimes. It's magical, there are no sitting on benches and wasting space when women are at the gym. All of the men are pushing all of the weight they can. 2 -
Not a fan. My location has more youth wanting to socialize than serious exercisers- because of that I totally feel like it is not a true judgement free zone. Furthermore, several people in my area have a membership strictly for the tanning beds. Also - the free pizza and bagels is B.S. If they wanted to do this for members then at least not have it 2 feet from the oblique machine. That being said- it's not bad for the price- but no longer my preference.0
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Though I don't agree with their "Judgement Free" (ironic?) ads, I have been a member there for a few years now. Some locations are better than others. I recently moved and the one I attend is one of the better ones I have been to. It's a good fit for people beginning their journey to weight loss. Treadmills, ellipticals, and weight machines. PF isn't geared towards people who focus on lifting. I think they have a key demographic, and they serve them well.0
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I used to work at PF. Many people complained about lack of equipment, but that simply say it is not the gym for you if it doesn't have the equipment you need. It is basic because it is marketed towards people intimidated to go to a gym and simply needing to build simple, healthy habits. I helped open a new location and I can attest that MANY regulars who joined obese got into incredible shape just using the equipment available at the gym (combined with healthy eating, of course).
I do get upset when people bash PF. Not because I worked there, but because I know what it feels like to be ashamed of your body and uncomfortable to go to more "intense" gyms. It is an amazing starting point for many people. I had people tear up during their tours because they felt they finally found somewhere they could be comfortable.
To be honest, it's really ignorant to claim that people who go to PF all maintain one specific mindset. It is advertised towards first-timers who feel intimidated. How is that a bad thing, when everything else is geared towards the opposite?
It is not for everyone, as nothing is.
(For the record, my location had everyone from severely obese to people training for body building competitions).8
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