What's the best cleanse/detox to start off with?
Pinkahlicious
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I want to get a helping hand to start my weight loss after the most recent baby and I wanted to start with a cleanse.
What is your favorite cleanse? What cleanse works the best to get motivated and boost initial weight loss? What cleanses should I stay away from? Any input is greatly appreciated.
What is your favorite cleanse? What cleanse works the best to get motivated and boost initial weight loss? What cleanses should I stay away from? Any input is greatly appreciated.
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Cleanses aren't really a thing.
If you feel the need to do something to give yourself a starting boost, why not sign up for a healthy recipe site, like skinnytaste.com/ and browse it? Compile a list of healthy recipes you can start making, draw up a shopping list of ingredients, and stock your kitchen with the necessary ingredients.
Come up with some plans for ideas for a new fitness plan, even if it's just to incorporate more movement in your day.
Take concrete small steps to make a fresh start so you feel like you're taking that big step without doing something that's really unnecessary and won't do anything but cause you to lose water weight and spend money you don't need to.13 -
Thanks for the advice. Those are some things I can do. But I have to ask, why do you say cleanses aren't a thing? Is there a reason you don't like them? Have you tried and they don't help you? I have heard people say they love them.0
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stay away from all the cleansers
plan your meals, and your exercise routine
stick to your calorie target
drink water
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This thread will explain why cleanses are unnecessary: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1159755/looking-for-a-detox-cleanse#latest9
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This thread will explain why cleanses are unnecessary: http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1159755/looking-for-a-detox-cleanse#latest
Thank you I'll look it over.1 -
Fundamentally, cleanses are bad for you. They disturb the balance of your gut flora. There's more and more evidence about the importance of healthy and varied colonies of bacteria and your ability to digest food well. In fact, a healthy range of gut flora may help you lose weight.
Consider: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-gut-bacteria-help-make-us-fat-and-thin/
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/28/health/studies-focus-on-gut-bacteria-in-weight-loss.html
http://www.medicaldaily.com/imbalances-our-gut-flora-contribute-obesity-epidemic-how-do-we-fix-341106
and many others.
If anything, a well-balanced diet with an abundance of vegetables and grains is more likely to improve your gut flora than any cleansing regimen. You want to grow a bacterial stew in your gut not clean it out.5 -
Don't waste your time and money on a ridiculous cleanse that is going to do nothing for you. You just had a baby - now is not the time to abuse you're body with nonsense that isn't going to do a damn thing anyway. Start getting some healthy habits, buy a food scale instead of a cleanse, log your food accurately, get some movement. Stop looking for a magic potion to be your weight loss solution. You'll be much better off on the long run if you skip the nonsense and just start the healthy habits now.4
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Cleanses and detoxes are fads right now. They just keep you in the bathroom. Do you really want diarrea? Do as suggested above. Slow and sure will get you where you want to be--and in good health.2
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What about starvation mode?0
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JamestheLiar wrote: »What about starvation mode?
Just as legit as cleanses.9 -
Pinkahlicious wrote: »Thanks for the advice. Those are some things I can do. But I have to ask, why do you say cleanses aren't a thing? Is there a reason you don't like them? Have you tried and they don't help you? I have heard people say they love them.
Because they're proven to be a marketing scam? The only thing that cleanses your body are your kidneys and liver. Drinking some magical liquid won't do anything, nor will it attribute to fatloss which is achieved through a caloric deficit. If you want to ensure that your body is working efficiently drink as much water as you can, eat healthy, and exercise regularly.
This is my question. If these cleanses actually rid your body of toxins why wouldn't a doctor prescribed them to a patient who's in sepsis and whos organs are shutting down to blood poisoning?3 -
Ok, I didn't really need any sarcastic comments. I had a question, I got answers. I asked genuine follow up questions. I thanked people for their responses and information. I wish I got more objective responses, and less judgmental quips. No need for any further replies and Thank You again to those who responded with factual information and helpful tips and not condescending remarks.4
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No one was being sarcastic/judgmental. How do you get that from text?
There is a lot of great info here.5 -
Pinkahlicious wrote: »Thanks for the advice. Those are some things I can do. But I have to ask, why do you say cleanses aren't a thing? Is there a reason you don't like them? Have you tried and they don't help you? I have heard people say they love them.
Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner. A lot of cleanses are expensive. At worst they're dubious concoctions full of who knows what, at middling they're simply laxatives, at best they're just juice.
There's nothing your body needs to be cleansed OF. As jessef pointed out, a functioning liver and kindeys does that job for you.
A lot of people like cleanses because it makes them feel like they're doing something positive for their health, and they often produce water weight loss. That water weight loss is quickly regained once normal eating is resumed.
You can accomplish that positive feeling without spending any extra money while taking the first steps towards forming lasting habits that will see you through permanent weight loss.
Hope this helps.3 -
I did a cleanse a few years ago. Wildrose detox it was called. Basically it was a vegan eating plan, low calories, low fat. All I did for 10 days was poop lol. It was supposed to be 14 days but I couldn't make it. I was exhausted, cranky, dizzy and it was just a horrible time.1
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I had gastro yesterday. It was horrible. I don't get why an unplanned bout of that is called illness, but a planned bout is called a cleanse!5
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I understand the need to somehow make the beginning of your weight loss "special". Somehow a "kickstart" helps the brain get in gear...at least for me.
What I usually do is make a trip to the store and stock my fridge and pantry with healthy options. I buy a notebook to journal in with meals that I am going to cook and a general plan.
I then prep several meals and put in my fridge so that I have options readily available.
I wish you luck regardless of which route you take.
Oh...and I second the skinnytaste.com site. She has some great recipes and I find they are easily changeable to whatever ingredients that I have on hand.2 -
Alatariel75 wrote: »I had gastro yesterday. It was horrible. I don't get why an unplanned bout of that is called illness, but a planned bout is called a cleanse!
I had a bad reaction to antibiotics that lasted the better part of a year.
I can't imagine paying for the "privilege".2 -
Detoxes are a scam and do nothing beneficial for you.
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-detox-scam-how-to-spot-it-and-how-to-avoid-it/
https://sciencebasedpharmacy.wordpress.com/2013/01/04/the-detox-delusion/3 -
Pinkahlicious wrote: »Ok, I didn't really need any sarcastic comments. I had a question, I got answers. I asked genuine follow up questions. I thanked people for their responses and information. I wish I got more objective responses, and less judgmental quips. No need for any further replies and Thank You again to those who responded with factual information and helpful tips and not condescending remarks.
always fun when people ask for opinions, receive opinions (none of which were rude or judgmental), then freak out because they didn't get the answer they wanted.5 -
I don't see any sarcastic responses here,only informative ones.
My understanding is that our kidneys and liver do a perfectly adequate job of removing toxins,unless they are damaged - in which case,taking detox supplements could make things worse.
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It's not personal. There's no kind way to say that cleanses/detoxes are a useless marketing gimmick.4
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OP...here is a fairly straight forward article on "detox". It is a little lengthy but it summarizes what everyone is telling you. (Sorry people...I just wanted to let the OP know that we are only trying to help.)
http://easacademy.org/trainer-resources/article/cleanse-detox-myths
Cleansing: Detox for the body–Myths and Dangers
Ellen Coleman, MA, MPH, RD, CSSD
Consumers are bombarded with claims that our bodies absorb a wide variety of toxins each day, resulting in stress, poor health and even disease. Dietary cleanses (e.g. Dr. Mehmet Oz's 3-Day Detox Cleanse; Master Cleanse) and other detox treatments have been promoted to rid the body of these supposed toxins, thereby restoring health, energy and balance.
There are numerous detox treatments available but most advocate extremely low-calorie, liquid diets (only fresh vegetable and fruit juices and water) for a few days to several weeks. Is there any scientific support for detox or is this a nutrition pitch that we shouldn't catch?
Detox
The term "detox" certainly sounds scientific. In this case, however, a valid medical term is being misused and co-opted to make worthless detox/cleansing treatments appear legitimate. This deceptive marketing can mislead consumers into thinking that detox is backed by science. In the medical setting, real detoxification refers to treatment for dangerous levels of drugs, alcohol, or poisons (e.g. heavy metals) and is provided in the hospital. Use of the term to promote popular detox/cleansing treatments is just a sleazy marketing strategy.
Toxins
The alleged purpose of detox/cleansing treatments is to remove harmful "toxins" that the body cannot remove on its own. So what exactly are these toxins? A shared feature of detox treatments is the inability to name the specific toxins that their treatment will remove. It is very telling that these so-called "toxins" haven't even been identified. Detox/cleansing treatments also do not offer a mechanism to explain how they supposedly remove these toxins.
Similar to "detox," the term "toxin" sounds scientific enough to be believable. According to the American Heritage Dictionary, a true toxin is defined as: "A poisonous substance, especially a protein, that is produced by living cells or organisms and is capable of causing disease when introduced into the body tissues but is often also capable of inducing neutralizing antibodies or antitoxins." In short, toxins are biologically produced poisons such as scorpion and pit viper venom. Just as detox/cleansing treatments misuse the term "detox," these programs don't even use the correct definition of "toxin."
Does the body need help?
Detox/cleansing proponents claim that the body cannot remove harmful substances by itself. This is categorically false – the body's intrinsic detoxification system is remarkably sophisticated and versatile. The liver is incredibly efficient at getting rid of noxious substances – it contains enzymes which convert toxic substances into less harmful ones. These are then dissolved in water and removed in the urine. The kidneys eliminate many toxic substances that are soluble in water. They reabsorb essential chemicals and excrete unwanted chemicals in the urine within a few hours to prevent them from accumulating. The gastrointestinal tract is a harsh environment and prevents many harmful bacteria from entering the body. The colon is responsible for expelling unwanted solid matter from the body.
Since we already have a wonderful detoxification system, the claim that we are accumulating vast quantities of dangerous "toxins" is ridiculous and demonstrates a profound ignorance of human physiology and metabolism.
Is "detox" dangerous?
Can detox diets be harmful? It is unlikely that healthy individuals will experience any long term adverse effects from a brief (< 3 days) detox regimen. However, severely restricting food intake makes it very difficult to obtain all the nutrients required for optimum health.
Even brief detox diets can cause unpleasant side effects such as decreased energy, lightheadedness, headaches and nausea. Following an extreme detox diet for a long period of time can actually harm the organs that really do have detoxification functions.
Detox diets can interfere with blood sugar regulation and cause electrolyte (sodium and potassium) imbalances. They are not recommended for people with diabetes, heart disease, liver or kidney disease or other chronic medical conditions. Pregnant and nursing women should also avoid detox diets.
Like most fad diets, detox cleanses are not an effective way to lose body fat. People who cleanse for several days may drop pounds, but this is primarily due to water loss. Longer detox diets can cause loss of muscle mass. Once people complete the detox, they resume their usual diet and regain the weight. Following a detox for long periods can slow the metabolic rate, making it harder to maintain weight loss.
Detox supplements can have dangerous side effects. Many of the supplements that are marketed for detox and cleansing are laxatives and diuretics. Potent herbal laxatives such as cascara, senna, buckthorn and aloe induce defecation. They can cause dehydration, electrolyte depletion and dependence if abused. Herbal diuretics such as uva ursa, dandelion, buchu, and horse chestnut increase urination. Massive fluid losses can upset the body's delicate fluid and electrolyte balance and cause dehydration.
Detox reality check
The popularity of detox is fueled by the desire for a "quick health fix." Detox cleanses seem especially attractive after periods of overindulgence during weekends, holidays and vacations. The idea that a week-long detox can immediately and effectively improve health is very appealing. Unfortunately, this gives the false impression that poor lifestyle choices can be instantly remedied by following a detox diet. The health implications of a poor diet, lack of exercise, smoking, lack of sleep, and alcohol or drug use cannot simply be "cleansed" away.
Detox/cleansing treatments distract people from the reality of how the body works and what is needed to keep it healthy. Detox regimens are counterproductive by taking money and time away from proven behaviors that promote health – increasing physical activity, improving dietary quality and consuming alcohol in moderation.
The notions of "detox" and "toxin" have no basis in reality. There is no evidence that toxins accumulate in the body or that any "detox" program "cleanses toxins" from the body. The human body has developed a remarkably complex and sophisticated intrinsic detoxification system and doesn't need any help removing waste products. Any product containing the words "detox" or "cleanse" is only truly effective at cleansing your wallet of money.4 -
Another good piece on detoxes/cleanses:
http://www.vox.com/2016/9/13/12894190/detox-products-scam
"Products that promise “detox” are a sham. Yes, all of them. Though they have a long history of duping us."
It's understandable someone who hadn't looked into it yet would think they might be useful, though. They are all over, all these "healthy" restaurants and juice bars around me sell them (for tons of money, of course), Beyonce and Gwyneth go on about them. Jillian Michaels has a "detox" (although it's really just a way to drop water weight fast in the short term and has nothing to do with toxins). And every diet guru out there seems to want to convince us that no, we aren't eating too much and don't need to worry about calories, we just need to cure/avoid the toxins and fat will go away. Sounds appealing (but things that sound too good to be true are).1 -
I experienced an unintended cleanse the other day. I took a single gel pill of flax oil, and that was it. I was off to the races. My daily movement is just normalizing now.
Watch out for flax oil pills.1 -
If you want a cleanse go ahead and spend your time in the bathroom.
You could cleanse your cupboards and fridge of non optimal foods. Read labels and decideif this is something that you want to eat.0 -
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markrgeary1 wrote: »If you want a cleanse go ahead and spend your time in the bathroom.
You could cleanse your cupboards and fridge of non optimal foods. Read labels and decideif this is something that you want to eat.
What do you consider non-optimal foods?
I have some psyllium husk that I am beginning to think might be non-optimal. That stuff is strange. I put some in my yogurt and it hardened up so much it was like sheetrock mud or wet cement...not pleasant.1 -
markrgeary1 wrote: »If you want a cleanse go ahead and spend your time in the bathroom.
You could cleanse your cupboards and fridge of non optimal foods. Read labels and decideif this is something that you want to eat.
What do you consider non-optimal foods?
I have some psyllium husk that I am beginning to think might be non-optimal. That stuff is strange. I put some in my yogurt and it hardened up so much it was like sheetrock mud or wet cement...not pleasant.
Non optimal foods to me are, foods with little to no nutritional value. I'd include items like: Doritos, chips, candy, foods high in fats and sugars. That's why for me it was important to read the labels. For example, lite mayo vs full fat. There is no difference that I can tell, so for weight loss I'd use the lower calorie version. It's an individual choice, truly no right or wrong.0
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