Going back vegan

Toyash17
Toyash17 Posts: 7 Member
in Food and Nutrition
What's the best way to transition from lchf diet, consisting of mostly eggs, beef, pork,and cheese...to Vegan. Im dealing with food poisoning right now, and cannot even look at meat or dairy. Im on fluids right now. Pedialyte, Perrier, water.
Any tips.
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  • kuftae
    kuftae Posts: 299 Member
    My tip is to do lots of research. Vegan can be done healthy but many people do it and create lots of vitamin and mineral deficiencies. As far as tips go, start vegetarian and then go full vegan. Don't go from 100 to 0 overnight.
  • amorfati601070
    amorfati601070 Posts: 2,890 Member
    kuftae wrote: »
    My tip is to do lots of research. Vegan can be done healthy but many people do it and create lots of vitamin and mineral deficiencies. As far as tips go, start vegetarian and then go full vegan. Don't go from 100 to 0 overnight.

    Pretty much this.

    This video explains how to do veganism properly.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpqPRfJk3Ac
  • avingers
    avingers Posts: 29 Member
    Just went to vegan last week, and so far so good. I ate mostly vegetarian before, only sometimes eating meat. The hardest part has been kicking dairy, since I've realized I'm a full on dairy addict! I do have to say that I feel like I have a lot more energy without meat and dairy. Feel free to add me. I have a pretty good library going of great vegan recipes.
  • shelleyrhoads
    shelleyrhoads Posts: 103 Member
    Do your best. Don't stress if you slip or think something is vegan and find later it isn't. About the transition it is an individual thing I guess. I went straight to vegan 4 months ago with no problem, but others have had issues. My only issue was my face did break out after a week or so but then cleared up. Probably just clearing toxins. I ate lots of processed crap before going vegan.
  • cityruss
    cityruss Posts: 2,493 Member
    Don't wear alligator skin cowboy boots.
  • triciadev
    triciadev Posts: 2 Member
    There are lots of really helpful tips on the Veganuary website about nutrition, recipes, etc: veganuary.com
  • kristinjoanne2013
    kristinjoanne2013 Posts: 1 Member
    I just went for it. Saw a video on YouTube about how this guy went vegan to try and clear up his very bad cystic acne. I've been following him a while now but just decided to give it a go. I went vegan cold turkey. Never going back. Lost a ton of weight that hasn't budged for years and now using this app it's going even better. Also I have a very hard to manage neurological condition and I have had migraines and double vision every day for over 6 years. Been vegan for about a month and free of headaches and double vision for 3. There is a lot of info out there. Google will turn up a lot. For me I think the no salt, oil or sugar part of the diet is the biggest thing. It's so much easier to get no added salt or sugar this way. Dairy I've never been able to have anyways as I'm lactose intolerant.
  • amandagyeoman
    amandagyeoman Posts: 88 Member
    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    By eating all the things you don't eat now and none of the things you do eat now.

    Also, I'm not sure food poisoning is a great reason to go vegan. Going vegan is typically done out of moral convictions regarding the treatment of animals.

    I grew up on farm, fully believe in the rights of anyone to grow production animals - you don't have to have moral conviction. You CAN try going Vegan strictly based on wanting to lead a HEALTHY plant based lifestyle.
  • shelleyrhoads
    shelleyrhoads Posts: 103 Member
    Many people use the terms interchangeable and nobody cares. Most vegans are happy plant based people are avoiding animal foods. Plus a lot of people are still not familiar with the term "plant based".
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    shelleyrhoads wrote: »
    Many people use the terms interchangeable and nobody cares. Most vegans are happy plant based people are avoiding animal foods. Plus a lot of people are still not familiar with the term "plant based".

    Some people do care.

    I agree that most vegans are happy and are avoiding animal foods. If you mean that most vegans are happy and avoiding animal foods while choosing to engage in other forms of animal exploitation (clothing, entertainment, health and beauty products, etc), I will have to disagree. If that is your argument, what is your source for that claim?
  • shelleyrhoads
    shelleyrhoads Posts: 103 Member
    Give me a break what is your source. Are you offended? Are you vegan?
  • mantramoon
    mantramoon Posts: 31 Member
    Good luck to you! I've been vegetarian for many years and am (mostly) vegan now. There is so much great plant-based food out there! Forks Over Knives is a helpful website - just search and you'll find lots of online resources. I've had some nice benefits from giving up dairy - I used to have terrible menstrual cramps, but once I stopped drinking milk they completely went away. There are plenty of tasty dairy substitutes available. Vegan food is tasty, better for your body and the environment.
  • shelleyrhoads
    shelleyrhoads Posts: 103 Member
    crzycatlady1 wrote: »
    shelleyrhoads wrote: »
    Give me a break what is your source. Are you offended? Are you vegan?

    Janejellyroll is a vegan and she's one of the nicest, most common sense posters here on MFP. I'm not a vegan but she's right-the term vegan has ethical implications that go beyond food choices.

    (edited for clarity)

    I did not say it did not have other implications. I said many people used the terms interchangeable. And I just feel since this is a food and nutrition thread we can assume we are speaking of a vegan diet and leave advocating to other conversations.
  • alyssa0061
    alyssa0061 Posts: 652 Member
    crzycatlady1 wrote: »
    kristinjoanne2013 wrote: »
    I just went for it. Saw a video on YouTube about how this guy went vegan to try and clear up his very bad cystic acne. I've been following him a while now but just decided to give it a go. I went vegan cold turkey. Never going back. Lost a ton of weight that hasn't budged for years and now using this app it's going even better. Also I have a very hard to manage neurological condition and I have had migraines and double vision every day for over 6 years. Been vegan for about a month and free of headaches and double vision for 3. There is a lot of info out there. Google will turn up a lot. For me I think the no salt, oil or sugar part of the diet is the biggest thing. It's so much easier to get no added salt or sugar this way. Dairy I've never been able to have anyways as I'm lactose intolerant.

    How are cutting these things out Vegan? None of these are animal products or by-products.

    Exactly what I was going to ask
  • amandagyeoman
    amandagyeoman Posts: 88 Member
    edited January 2017
    janejellyroll wrote: »
    shelleyrhoads wrote: »
    crzycatlady1 wrote: »
    shelleyrhoads wrote: »
    Give me a break what is your source. Are you offended? Are you vegan?

    Janejellyroll is a vegan and she's one of the nicest, most common sense posters here on MFP. I'm not a vegan but she's right-the term vegan has ethical implications that go beyond food choices.

    (edited for clarity)

    I did not say it did not have other implications. I said many people used the terms interchangeable. And I just feel since this is a food and nutrition thread we can assume we are speaking of a vegan diet and leave advocating to other conversations.

    We could assume that, but I don't see the harm of distinguishing between a plant-based diet and an ethical opposition to animal exploitation (which will include a plant-based diet).

    I do see the harm in eroding the meaning of "vegan" to include people who have no objection to animal exploitation. Since that is specifically what was being advocated above by another poster, I'm fine with addressing it.

    I stand corrected, I'm happily plant-based dieting. And fully support the wearing of leather, use of honey, the eating of steak, etc.
  • Leslierussell4134
    Leslierussell4134 Posts: 376 Member
    edited January 2017
    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    By eating all the things you don't eat now and none of the things you do eat now.

    Also, I'm not sure food poisoning is a great reason to go vegan. Going vegan is typically done out of moral convictions regarding the treatment of animals.

    Going Vegan isn't just about treatment of animals, it can be for global and humanity reasons. Yes I chose to be vegan because I do love the creatures of this earth. But I love my fellow man more, and eating animals is killing the earth, exacerbating climate change and not sustainable. We are an intelligent species, we are in the age of understanding, which says we do not need to eat animals or their byproducts to live and thrive. The science is there.
    I know going 0 to vegan is completely possible, however, the increase in fiber right away can cause some real discomfort. If you're eating mostly animal products now, you're likely like the rest of the Standard American dieters and getting 18 or less grams of fiber per day. Be careful increasing that quickly. I had really bad cramps and bloating for 2 weeks until my gut adjusted. Going Vegan is the best thing you can do for your health, the health of your fellow man, and the future of this planet.
    Read the China Study, you won't regret your decision and it will give you the scientific facts to make the Vegan decision everyday.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    amandagyeoman wrote: »
    janejellyroll wrote: »
    shelleyrhoads wrote: »
    crzycatlady1 wrote: »
    shelleyrhoads wrote: »
    Give me a break what is your source. Are you offended? Are you vegan?

    Janejellyroll is a vegan and she's one of the nicest, most common sense posters here on MFP. I'm not a vegan but she's right-the term vegan has ethical implications that go beyond food choices.

    (edited for clarity)

    I did not say it did not have other implications. I said many people used the terms interchangeable. And I just feel since this is a food and nutrition thread we can assume we are speaking of a vegan diet and leave advocating to other conversations.

    We could assume that, but I don't see the harm of distinguishing between a plant-based diet and an ethical opposition to animal exploitation (which will include a plant-based diet).

    I do see the harm in eroding the meaning of "vegan" to include people who have no objection to animal exploitation. Since that is specifically what was being advocated above by another poster, I'm fine with addressing it.

    I stand corrected, I'm happily plant-based dieting. And fully support the wearing of leather, use of honey, the eating of steak, etc.

    I'm glad you found a way of eating that you enjoy.
  • sarajenivieve
    sarajenivieve Posts: 303 Member
    hey i am vegan also! feel free to add me :0 congradulations :)
  • fishshark
    fishshark Posts: 1,886 Member
    shelleyrhoads wrote: »
    Give me a break what is your source. Are you offended? Are you vegan?

    i am fully offended.. mostly annoyed when people call themselves vegan when they are not doing it for ethical reasons, as well as the 25+ vegans that i know... and give me a break you must be new here saying that to basically the most helpful and nice vegan on these boards.
  • amandagyeoman
    amandagyeoman Posts: 88 Member
    fishshark wrote: »
    shelleyrhoads wrote: »
    Give me a break what is your source. Are you offended? Are you vegan?

    i am fully offended.. mostly annoyed when people call themselves vegan when they are not doing it for ethical reasons, as well as the 25+ vegans that i know... and give me a break you must be new here saying that to basically the most helpful and nice vegan on these boards.

    To be fair, I didn't say it to offend. I didn't know Vegans were so sensitive about the terminology. If saving animals is so important to Vegans, can't you simply respect the fact those of us going Plant Based are at least reducing our number of aminal products used.
  • amandagyeoman
    amandagyeoman Posts: 88 Member
    Need2LuzWt wrote: »
    amandagyeoman wrote: »
    fishshark wrote: »
    shelleyrhoads wrote: »
    Give me a break what is your source. Are you offended? Are you vegan?

    i am fully offended.. mostly annoyed when people call themselves vegan when they are not doing it for ethical reasons, as well as the 25+ vegans that i know... and give me a break you must be new here saying that to basically the most helpful and nice vegan on these boards.

    To be fair, I didn't say it to offend. I didn't know Vegans were so sensitive about the terminology. If saving animals is so important to Vegans, can't you simply respect the fact those of us going Plant Based are at least reducing our number of aminal products used.

    I don't think you were the one she quoted...Look again.

    I know, but I think my misunderstanding the term Vegan vs. Plant Based is what started the debate.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    amandagyeoman wrote: »
    fishshark wrote: »
    shelleyrhoads wrote: »
    Give me a break what is your source. Are you offended? Are you vegan?

    i am fully offended.. mostly annoyed when people call themselves vegan when they are not doing it for ethical reasons, as well as the 25+ vegans that i know... and give me a break you must be new here saying that to basically the most helpful and nice vegan on these boards.

    To be fair, I didn't say it to offend. I didn't know Vegans were so sensitive about the terminology. If saving animals is so important to Vegans, can't you simply respect the fact those of us going Plant Based are at least reducing our number of aminal products used.

    I don't think anyone was offended by you or concerned about what you said, it was someone else.

    I have no problem with plant-based people, I think it's great when people reduce their animal exploitation for whatever reason even if animal exploitation isn't their motivation.
  • cmtigger
    cmtigger Posts: 1,450 Member
    I'm a little confused by the food poisoning part. You can get food poisoning from anything. A lot of the really bad outbreaks are on vegetables and fruit that people are lax with because they don't cook them.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    edited January 2017
    cmtigger wrote: »
    I'm a little confused by the food poisoning part. You can get food poisoning from anything. A lot of the really bad outbreaks are on vegetables and fruit that people are lax with because they don't cook them.

    Off the top of my head, the major recent outbreaks I can think of were related to spinach, cantaloupe, peanut butter, and green onions. I am sure there are others (I'm not a researcher), but vegetables and fruits (especially those we typically eat raw) are frequently involved in food poisoning.

    Edit: In fact the most recent recall for food safety I read about was for hummus, which vegans often joke about being a whole food group for us.

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