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Are you a hard gainer, please read!

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  • sardelsasardelsa Posts: 8,650Member Member Posts: 8,650Member Member
    Giving this a good 'old bump
  • cinnimartzcinnimartz Posts: 3Member Member Posts: 3Member Member
    Are there supplements you can take while eating enough calories to help you gain weight? If so what would they be?
  • psuLemonpsuLemon Posts: 35,563Member, MFP Moderator, Greeter, Premium MFP Moderator Posts: 35,563Member, MFP Moderator, Greeter, Premium MFP Moderator
    cinnimartz wrote: »
    Are there supplements you can take while eating enough calories to help you gain weight? If so what would they be?

    Proteins shakes have calories, but outside of that no. Gaining, just like weight loss, comes down to energy balance. You have to eat a consistent surplus to gain weight. That is why I created this thread, so you can get some ideas of foods that make it easier. And don't be afraid to drink some calories.
    edited January 2017
  • rdouma73rdouma73 Posts: 2,065Member Member Posts: 2,065Member Member
    Wow, great post. Nice to see that not everyone on here is looking to lose a few pounds.
  • 111katie111111katie111 Posts: 8Member Member Posts: 8Member Member
    I find it really hard to eat sometimes. I have digestive issues that cause me to but nauseated 80% of the time but doctors dont know why. I also cant eat certain foods (fatty, fried, spicy, nuts, seeds, greasy and sometimes just random foods). Im lactose intolerant but I have medication for that. The only formal diagnosis i have is GERD (acid reflex). Ive been having trouble gaining weight because i cant get enough calories. Any advice?
  • psuLemonpsuLemon Posts: 35,563Member, MFP Moderator, Greeter, Premium MFP Moderator Posts: 35,563Member, MFP Moderator, Greeter, Premium MFP Moderator
    I find it really hard to eat sometimes. I have digestive issues that cause me to but nauseated 80% of the time but doctors dont know why. I also cant eat certain foods (fatty, fried, spicy, nuts, seeds, greasy and sometimes just random foods). Im lactose intolerant but I have medication for that. The only formal diagnosis i have is GERD (acid reflex). Ive been having trouble gaining weight because i cant get enough calories. Any advice?

    Does non nuts/seeds include products made by them? I would probably add fatty cuts of meats. If you can eat/drink foods maybe from nuts, that flavored milks with a scoop or two of protein. Higher GI fruits and veggies, add butters and marinades to all meats, hard cheese.

    Really, it's about finding the right combination foods that help you eat a lot of calories. There are a lot of high calorie oatmeals and shakes that you can probably consume.
  • 111katie111111katie111 Posts: 8Member Member Posts: 8Member Member
    psuLemon wrote: »
    I find it really hard to eat sometimes. I have digestive issues that cause me to but nauseated 80% of the time but doctors dont know why. I also cant eat certain foods (fatty, fried, spicy, nuts, seeds, greasy and sometimes just random foods). Im lactose intolerant but I have medication for that. The only formal diagnosis i have is GERD (acid reflex). Ive been having trouble gaining weight because i cant get enough calories. Any advice?

    Does non nuts/seeds include products made by them? I would probably add fatty cuts of meats. If you can eat/drink foods maybe from nuts, that flavored milks with a scoop or two of protein. Higher GI fruits and veggies, add butters and marinades to all meats, hard cheese.

    Really, it's about finding the right combination foods that help you eat a lot of calories. There are a lot of high calorie oatmeals and shakes that you can probably consume.

    I think its just raw nuts/seeds. Thanks
  • yomingen95yomingen95 Posts: 5Member Member Posts: 5Member Member
    looking for advises,
    i use to be skinny three years ago, my weight is about 50kg, when i hit to gym and i start to plan the meal, i actually gain the weight, currently in 64 kg, but i stuck in 64kg, am i still need to bulk up?Do i need to add more calories in my meal? i am doubt with that, i still look skinny but muscular.
  • richardgavelrichardgavel Posts: 829Member Member Posts: 829Member Member
    As your weight goes up, your base calorie needs go up. Have you been adjusting it as you've been gaining?
  • yomingen95yomingen95 Posts: 5Member Member Posts: 5Member Member
    no, i didnt, i just ate a lot to make sure i stick to the plan. So that means i must intake more calories to gain more weight?
  • psuLemonpsuLemon Posts: 35,563Member, MFP Moderator, Greeter, Premium MFP Moderator Posts: 35,563Member, MFP Moderator, Greeter, Premium MFP Moderator
    yomingen95 wrote: »
    no, i didnt, i just ate a lot to make sure i stick to the plan. So that means i must intake more calories to gain more weight?

    If you aren't gaining, you need to eat more.
  • exodusbodyexodusbody Posts: 1Member Member Posts: 1Member Member
    I'd also add the suggestion to "drink" calories if you're having trouble eating enough to your second list (I'll leave the exact verbiage to you).

    Drinking calories has helped me tonnes. 200g of oats, 4 eggs, 30g peanut butter all in a blender in the morning at you've got your first 1200 - 1500 calories. Easy peasy.
    edited February 2017
  • jdscrubs32jdscrubs32 Posts: 487Member Member Posts: 487Member Member
    exodusbody wrote: »
    I'd also add the suggestion to "drink" calories if you're having trouble eating enough to your second list (I'll leave the exact verbiage to you).

    Drinking calories has helped me tonnes. 200g of oats, 4 eggs, 30g peanut butter all in a blender in the morning at you've got your first 1200 - 1500 calories. Easy peasy.

    Whoa that is a lot of oats. That smoothie would be an incredibly filling but a nice one.
  • Wiz_06Wiz_06 Posts: 18Member Member Posts: 18Member Member
    This is very helpful, thanks. I am trying to gain as well.
  • greenhippiejggreenhippiejg Posts: 2Member Member Posts: 2Member Member
    psuLemon wrote: »
    Since one of the most common threads in this section seems to be that people struggle to gain weight, I wanted to create a one stop source for members to read on how to gain (particularly, specific foods to help and some techniques). First, you have to eat enough calories to get above your maintenance levels; you cannot add mass, if you are not providing a foundation to grow (i.e - calories). Once you achieve a surplus, and you want to minimize fat gains, you should consistently maintain a surplus (as opposed to huge calorie fluctuations) and ensure proper training (progressive overload lifting program that is focused on compound moves).

    There are a variety of reason why people struggle to gain. One of the main reasons why people feel they are hard gainers is because they believe they have a high metabolism. Statistically speaking, the average person doesn't have a slow or fast metabolism, but rather have one of the following issues: 1. current eating style isn't conducive towards their goals, 2. psychological struggles or 3. high/active job/daily routine. What I mean by each is simple. Many people develop eating strategies, whether during dieting or habitual, that focus on many low calorie or "diet" foods. This in turn, makes it very difficult to add enough calories to get into a surplus. Also, bulking can be a huge psychological barrier for many people. It's hard going into a program where you are intentionally gaining fat and getting rid of the progress you previously had. And lastly, there are some people (teachers, construction workers, etc...) whom have jobs that are extremely active and will burn a ton of calories. This in turn, makes achieving a surplus a more difficult task than those of us who have desk jobs. Unfortunately, if you want to achieve the goal of gaining muscle, you must hit a surplus and ideally, in a consistent manor.

    With that in mind, hopefully the below list of foods and some dietary strategies will provide you a guide to meet your goals:

    Foods:
    • Avocado
    • Nuts, granola
    • Olive/Coconut Oil (as a dressing or to cook in)
    • Peanut/Almond/Pumpkin/etc butter
    • Butter and spreads
    • Greek Yogurt (higher fat options)
    • Cheese (put that crap on everything or eat a brick of it)
    • Creams (sour cream, cream cheese)
    • Ice cream, chocolate, candy
    • Chocolate/Strawberry milk
    • Bagels (I use P28 protein bagels and top with peanut butter and jelly/jam)
    • Pancakes (if you want a "healthier" version, then go protein pancakes)
    • Waffles
    • Muffins/Scones
    • Syrup, honey, jams, fluff, nutella
    • [Marinade all meats - especially oil based marinades
    • Add sauces to foods
    • High sugar fruits (pineapple, banana, mango, apples, etc...)
    • High calorie protein bars (Cliff Builder, Cliff Energy Bars, etc...)
    • High calorie protein drinks (put in milk)
    • Red meats (Buffalo, Bison, Steak, 80/20 Hamburger, Duck, Ribs)
    • Dark Fish (Salmon,Tuna)
    • Bacon (thick cut)
    • Eggs
    • Starches (potatoes, corn, etc..)
    • pizza
    • Rice
    • Couscous
    • etc...


    While above is not a full list and I can expand if people have other suggestions, there are a few other things you can try to get those calories up:
    • Increase meal frequency
    • Limit cardio while you bulk
    • No diet foods (stay away from low calorie dense foods - again, aim for the veggies/fruits that are higher in sugars)
    • Limit "clean" foods
    • Drink calories
    • Recognize this is mental and that getting nutrients in a bulk is a lot easier
    • And trust the program and the math.

    Hopefully, this can provide a good start to a bulk.

  • greenhippiejggreenhippiejg Posts: 2Member Member Posts: 2Member Member
    I've been struggling with weight because of chronic pancreatitis.Have to be careful of fats sugars, corn syrups,. Any suggestions? Thanks
  • psuLemonpsuLemon Posts: 35,563Member, MFP Moderator, Greeter, Premium MFP Moderator Posts: 35,563Member, MFP Moderator, Greeter, Premium MFP Moderator
    I've been struggling with weight because of chronic pancreatitis.Have to be careful of fats sugars, corn syrups,. Any suggestions? Thanks

    Is your pancreatitis under control? My wife wasnt able to even eat when hers was active. You will probably have to aim for lean proteins and whole grains, legumes, and starches. But then again my wife didnt have those restrictions.
  • psuLemonpsuLemon Posts: 35,563Member, MFP Moderator, Greeter, Premium MFP Moderator Posts: 35,563Member, MFP Moderator, Greeter, Premium MFP Moderator
    Bump - Starting to add good recipe websites.
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