Not eating after 3pm..
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GaleHawkins wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »
IF is a form of calorie counting...timing has no impact on the actual weight loss. Not saying it's not an impact on the person mentally/emotionally but that's it.
Do you not understand you are medically wrong on both points?
IF is done to lower Insulin levels to permit the burning of stored fat and increase one's metabolism so that is why the timing of not eating is critical. Typically IF days are low calorie days but that is not a requirement always.
IF is done by choice by some as they prefer it that way but to say I am medically wrong....yah okay...*note sarcasm*
Based on what I have read There’s no evidence that intermittent fasting will change your insulin levels enough to affect your body composition. IE burn fat
Evidence shows that meal timing is not important
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9155494
The timing issue is the number of hours without eating. If one stops eating at 3PM and did not eat again until 7 am
that would be an 8/16 IF fast. If the last eating was at 7 pm vs 3 pm it would just be a 12/12 fast would most likely not lower Insulin enough to help much with weight loss but naturally straight CICO would still be in play.
Meal timing I agree will not be the same issue if not doing IF. IF does work when it is worked but it is not the only way to lose pounds we all understand.
IF is just a way to keep calories under TDEE that the person feels comfortable with...
plus boost metabolism and kick out a few ketone if the time spread between the last meal of today and the next meal tomorrow. I will look for the video presentation with graph by Dr. Jason Fung.3 -
GaleHawkins wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »GaleHawkins wrote: »
IF is a form of calorie counting...timing has no impact on the actual weight loss. Not saying it's not an impact on the person mentally/emotionally but that's it.
Do you not understand you are medically wrong on both points?
IF is done to lower Insulin levels to permit the burning of stored fat and increase one's metabolism so that is why the timing of not eating is critical. Typically IF days are low calorie days but that is not a requirement always.
IF is done by choice by some as they prefer it that way but to say I am medically wrong....yah okay...*note sarcasm*
Based on what I have read There’s no evidence that intermittent fasting will change your insulin levels enough to affect your body composition. IE burn fat
Evidence shows that meal timing is not important
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9155494
The timing issue is the number of hours without eating. If one stops eating at 3PM and did not eat again until 7 am
that would be an 8/16 IF fast. If the last eating was at 7 pm vs 3 pm it would just be a 12/12 fast would most likely not lower Insulin enough to help much with weight loss but naturally straight CICO would still be in play.
Meal timing I agree will not be the same issue if not doing IF. IF does work when it is worked but it is not the only way to lose pounds we all understand.
IF is just a way to keep calories under TDEE that the person feels comfortable with...
plus boost metabolism and kick out a few ketone if the time spread between the last meal of today and the next meal tomorrow. I will look for the video presentation with graph by Dr. Jason Fung.
no thanks...his website says "It's not about calories" and charges for his website...says a whole bunch even if his science is somewhat sound...he is not the kind of person I am interested in listening to.11 -
crazymama2both wrote: »I'm hungry just reading this.
Me too, and I just ate!!
OP...meal timing does not matter. All that matters is staying at or just a little below your calorie goal...don't starve yourself, you'll lose too much muscle (and affect your heart, hormones and general health). Not worth it. Eat at least 1500 calories. At least.0 -
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Oh dear. Why are you eating so little?! You're probably losing a lot of muscle mass too. The timing thing makes no difference, but under eating by that much sounds like a horrible plan.0
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I'd suggest losing 2 lbs a week. So, eat around 2000 or so calories a day, plus working out/cardio to burn another 500 calories, and you'll lose 2 lbs a week. I'd also like to suggest intermittent fasting. It's wonderful and has helped me VERY much.0
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I'd suggest losing 2 lbs a week. So, eat around 2000 or so calories a day, plus working out/cardio to burn another 500 calories, and you'll lose 2 lbs a week. I'd also like to suggest intermittent fasting. It's wonderful and has helped me VERY much.
For the amount of weight the original poster has to lose 2 pounds a week is to aggressive. 1 pound a week would be idea, 1.5 would be the absolute maximum to preserve maximum muscle mass.1 -
A newbie here and am so glad to find this blog. In the past, I've maintained a schedule of cardio exercising that deemed highly beneficial with weightloss. In recent months, there have been innumerous stressors ranging from caring for an aging parent to burying a sibling. Being in this slump robs you of energy and I'll admit, the depression caused me to put on some pounds. I decided to start 2017 out right with getting to a more healthier me.
I was told by a trainer that I should not be exercising at all right now, to start off eating whatever I want between 8a-9a and absolutely nothing past 3p. I've never heard such a thing before ever in my life but I'm not a trainer so I don't know. I've tried this and have been unsuccessful, as my stomach begins to hurt with twists and knots alongside severe headaches and nausea that only leaves if I nibble on some crackers or something in the evenings. When I've expressed this, he tells me it's not really happening that it's all a mental thing and then went on to tell me about how another client followed this regiment a month ago and lost close to 30 pounds. I asked them did the other client have the digestive issues when they started, he said no and then went in again to tell me how not only is it a mental thing, it also flows in the vein of making excuses and being lazy. It really hurt my feelings, as I am not a lazy person nor have I ever been. I genuinely want to become healthy. I know that entails hard work but I also have be careful that I'm not doing anything to harm myself in the process.
I googled this regiment and found your blog. Thank you so much, as you're all a wealth of information. I knew something was seriously off with this regiment and am relieved to know my Spidey senses were on point.
Sincerely,
Reignbeaugrace2 -
Reignbeaugrace wrote: »A newbie here and am so glad to find this blog. In the past, I've maintained a schedule of cardio exercising that deemed highly beneficial with weightloss. In recent months, there have been innumerous stressors ranging from caring for an aging parent to burying a sibling. Being in this slump robs you of energy and I'll admit, the depression caused me to put on some pounds. I decided to start 2017 out right with getting to a more healthier me.
I was told by a trainer that I should not be exercising at all right now, to start off eating whatever I want between 8a-9a and absolutely nothing past 3p. I've never heard such a thing before ever in my life but I'm not a trainer so I don't know. I've tried this and have been unsuccessful, as my stomach begins to hurt with twists and knots alongside severe headaches and nausea that only leaves if I nibble on some crackers or something in the evenings. When I've expressed this, he tells me it's not really happening that it's all a mental thing and then went on to tell me about how another client followed this regiment a month ago and lost close to 30 pounds. I asked them did the other client have the digestive issues when they started, he said no and then went in again to tell me how not only is it a mental thing, it also flows in the vein of making excuses and being lazy. It really hurt my feelings, as I am not a lazy person nor have I ever been. I genuinely want to become healthy. I know that entails hard work but I also have be careful that I'm not doing anything to harm myself in the process.
I googled this regiment and found your blog. Thank you so much, as you're all a wealth of information. I knew something was seriously off with this regiment and am relieved to know my Spidey senses were on point.
Sincerely,
Reignbeaugrace
I'm glad you trusted your instincts and found the information here helpful - there is a massive amount of woo and broscience prevalent in today's world. Sometimes just simplifying things down to the basics - eat less calories than you burn, focus on a balanced, nutritious diet, and exercise for both fitness and stress relief while getting adequate sleep is all it takes, but it's hard for the weight loss and fitness industry to profit off of that message. Hopefully you also followed through on shedding the 200 lbs that the trainer represents also!
I'm so sorry for your losses, also. Good luck!
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WinoGelato wrote: »
I'm glad you trusted your instincts and found the information here helpful - there is a massive amount of woo and broscience prevalent in today's world. Sometimes just simplifying things down to the basics - eat less calories than you burn, focus on a balanced, nutritious diet, and exercise for both fitness and stress relief while getting adequate sleep is all it takes, but it's hard for the weight loss and fitness industry to profit off of that message. Hopefully you also followed through on shedding the 200 lbs that the trainer represents also!
I'm so sorry for your losses, also. Good luck!
Thank you so much for responding as well as the condolences. The above is so true! When I initially had a normal routine of walking, eating sensibly and getting adequate rest, I lost weight without really trying. It was so natural.
I've started back on what I know. I recently invested in a Bowflex trainer, had a wonderful cardio session this morning and felt so energized afterwards. This, I can definitely stick with...
As for the trainer, I told him his services were no longer needed and already feel much lighter.
Thanks again for your words of wisdom and have a great evening...
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Meal timing can play a roll with your insulin. Which can be important. Try to a deficit of 10-15% calorie intake a day when you don't exercise. The days you exercise you should eat equal to or slightly more then your requirements for the day.
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mattwojo613 wrote: »Meal timing can play a roll with your insulin. Which can be important. Try to a deficit of 10-15% calorie intake a day when you don't exercise. The days you exercise you should eat equal to or slightly more then your requirements for the day.
Unless a person is diagnosed insulin resistant or diabetic (and I guess PCOS) this is not important.2 -
Reignbeaugrace wrote: »A newbie here and am so glad to find this blog. In the past, I've maintained a schedule of cardio exercising that deemed highly beneficial with weightloss. In recent months, there have been innumerous stressors ranging from caring for an aging parent to burying a sibling. Being in this slump robs you of energy and I'll admit, the depression caused me to put on some pounds. I decided to start 2017 out right with getting to a more healthier me.
I was told by a trainer that I should not be exercising at all right now, to start off eating whatever I want between 8a-9a and absolutely nothing past 3p. I've never heard such a thing before ever in my life but I'm not a trainer so I don't know. I've tried this and have been unsuccessful, as my stomach begins to hurt with twists and knots alongside severe headaches and nausea that only leaves if I nibble on some crackers or something in the evenings. When I've expressed this, he tells me it's not really happening that it's all a mental thing and then went on to tell me about how another client followed this regiment a month ago and lost close to 30 pounds. I asked them did the other client have the digestive issues when they started, he said no and then went in again to tell me how not only is it a mental thing, it also flows in the vein of making excuses and being lazy. It really hurt my feelings, as I am not a lazy person nor have I ever been. I genuinely want to become healthy. I know that entails hard work but I also have be careful that I'm not doing anything to harm myself in the process.
I googled this regiment and found your blog. Thank you so much, as you're all a wealth of information. I knew something was seriously off with this regiment and am relieved to know my Spidey senses were on point.
Sincerely,
Reignbeaugrace
I'm so sorry to hear that.
When I lost my mother back in April, I ate at maintenance for months afterwards. I still have a tendency to go to maintenance due to the emotional pain. Your trainer isn't the best to listen to regarding nutrition right now. You can eat from the time you wake up until you go to bed just as long as you're within your calories. I even went as far as meal prep so that I didn't have to think too much about calories and such.
If you want to exercise, try walking or something that you enjoy. I personally did lifting (still do) kickboxing and walking as it helped with that inner pain a little.
I wish you all the best.1 -
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Wow ! I have never seen so many misinformed individuals on one feed like this before . See this is the problem with fitness and nutrition today . Everyone thinks they are an expert overnight . How about you listen to the app and let it set you at the recomended caloric amount needed to lose 1-2lbs per week . The end !!2
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Trainer_Rob wrote: »Wow ! I have never seen so many misinformed individuals on one feed like this before . See this is the problem with fitness and nutrition today . Everyone thinks they are an expert overnight . How about you listen to the app and let it set you at the recomended caloric amount needed to lose 1-2lbs per week . The end !!
It might be helpful if you could quote the posts that you disagree with in order to engage in further discussion, otherwise it's hard to know which advice you feel is misfirected since there were a lot of view points expressed here. Plus it's an older thread that just got bumped and many people may not recall the general flow of the thread (myself included).1 -
WinoGelato wrote: »Trainer_Rob wrote: »Wow ! I have never seen so many misinformed individuals on one feed like this before . See this is the problem with fitness and nutrition today . Everyone thinks they are an expert overnight . How about you listen to the app and let it set you at the recomended caloric amount needed to lose 1-2lbs per week . The end !!
It might be helpful if you could quote the posts that you disagree with in order to engage in further discussion, otherwise it's hard to know which advice you feel is misfirected since there were a lot of view points expressed here. Plus it's an older thread that just got bumped and many people may not recall the general flow of the thread (myself included).
You said that well.1
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