Am I skinny fat? What do I do now?
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DazzaGainz wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »DazzaGainz wrote: »
Increase your cals 100 per week till you get to around 1850
Stupid question but I presume you mean 100 a day, right?
Next week eat 1350 each day, week after 1450 etc, that way you won't get freaked out by any gains on the scale1 -
TavistockToad wrote: »DazzaGainz wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »DazzaGainz wrote: »
Increase your cals 100 per week till you get to around 1850
Stupid question but I presume you mean 100 a day, right?
Next week eat 1350 each day, week after 1450 etc, that way you won't get freaked out by any gains on the scale
Thanks!
Should I be fussed on Marcos?
I'm hitting protein/will be hitting protein @ 100g but carbs will increase significantly to 200g - should I be concerned?
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TavistockToad wrote: »DazzaGainz wrote: »
Increase your cals 100 per week till you get to around 1850
Watch that. You just suggested 6 more weeks of (large theoretical) deficit eating as even 1800 is a guessed tdee with calculators pointing to over 2k.
I don't disagree that moving beyond 1850 should be slow, maybe 100 at a time; but given he is eating well below the minimum for a male right now a good initial jump to at least 1500 for a week or two followed by another good jump if it was well tolerated sounds like a good idea.
I don't disagree, just concerned that OP will freak out if the scales bounce up from the extra food1 -
DazzaGainz wrote: »
Do the program as written and eat at maintenance. Don't do a random day for your chest or extra reps or superset with bike sprints or anything else that you think would make the program better. Just follow the instructions and eat like a grown man.7 -
DazzaGainz wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »DazzaGainz wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »DazzaGainz wrote: »
Increase your cals 100 per week till you get to around 1850
Stupid question but I presume you mean 100 a day, right?
Next week eat 1350 each day, week after 1450 etc, that way you won't get freaked out by any gains on the scale
Thanks!
Should I be fussed on Marcos?
I'm hitting protein/will be hitting protein @ 100g but carbs will increase significantly to 200g - should I be concerned?
How much fat?1 -
TavistockToad wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »DazzaGainz wrote: »
Increase your cals 100 per week till you get to around 1850
Watch that. You just suggested 6 more weeks of (large theoretical) deficit eating as even 1800 is a guessed tdee with calculators pointing to over 2k.
I don't disagree that moving beyond 1850 should be slow, maybe 100 at a time; but given he is eating well below the minimum for a male right now a good initial jump to at least 1500 for a week or two followed by another good jump if it was well tolerated sounds like a good idea.
I don't disagree, just concerned that OP will freak out if the scales bounce up from the extra food
Random question - say I maintain at 1250 six days a week and then on Sunday I have a massive calorie day to average out at 1450-1500 would that be okay? Or wouldn't you recommend this...
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No, you're just fat. "Skinny fat" means that you are slim and look like you should be healthy but tests showing your risk factors (blood pressure, etc.) indicate that you aren't.-3
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TavistockToad wrote: »DazzaGainz wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »DazzaGainz wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »DazzaGainz wrote: »
Increase your cals 100 per week till you get to around 1850
Stupid question but I presume you mean 100 a day, right?
Next week eat 1350 each day, week after 1450 etc, that way you won't get freaked out by any gains on the scale
Thanks!
Should I be fussed on Marcos?
I'm hitting protein/will be hitting protein @ 100g but carbs will increase significantly to 200g - should I be concerned?
How much fat?
40g
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DazzaGainz wrote: »
Do the program as written and eat at maintenance. Don't do a random day for your chest or extra reps or superset with bike sprints or anything else that you think would make the program better. Just follow the instructions and eat like a grown man.
Thanks mate!
Agree I'm not in a position to start improving the programs LOL
What form Cardio is better? Low intensity cardio (lowest setting on bike) where I'm sweating with heart rate at 140 or high intensity setting for a shorter time.
At the moment when do a low intensity cardio I use the excerise bike at its lowest setting doing 40KM in one hour burning supposedly 600calories.
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TimothyFish wrote: »No, you're just fat. "Skinny fat" means that you are slim and look like you should be healthy but tests showing your risk factors (blood pressure, etc.) indicate that you aren't.
That's what I thought!
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DazzaGainz wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »DazzaGainz wrote: »
Increase your cals 100 per week till you get to around 1850
Watch that. You just suggested 6 more weeks of (large theoretical) deficit eating as even 1800 is a guessed tdee with calculators pointing to over 2k.
I don't disagree that moving beyond 1850 should be slow, maybe 100 at a time; but given he is eating well below the minimum for a male right now a good initial jump to at least 1500 for a week or two followed by another good jump if it was well tolerated sounds like a good idea.
I don't disagree, just concerned that OP will freak out if the scales bounce up from the extra food
Random question - say I maintain at 1250 six days a week and then on Sunday I have a massive calorie day to average out at 1450-1500 would that be okay? Or wouldn't you recommend this...
Your 'massive' calorie day isn't really that massive though... but yes, in theory, if you like to eat that way. But at some point you'll have to eat more than the 1250 on the other days!2 -
DazzaGainz wrote: »DazzaGainz wrote: »
Do the program as written and eat at maintenance. Don't do a random day for your chest or extra reps or superset with bike sprints or anything else that you think would make the program better. Just follow the instructions and eat like a grown man.
Thanks mate!
Agree I'm not in a position to start improving the programs LOL
What form Cardio is better? Low intensity cardio (lowest setting on bike) where I'm sweating with heart rate at 140 or high intensity setting for a shorter time.
At the moment when do a low intensity cardio I use the excerise bike at its lowest setting doing 40KM in one hour burning supposedly 600calories.
Better for what?
What is your goal?
Why are you doing cardio?
Short of playing chicken on the highway, any form of cardio can be good for your overall health and well-being. So if you want to do cardio, do it. But if your goal is not to lose weight (which it shouldn't be at this point) you need to be eating to fuel the activity that you do.2 -
TavistockToad wrote: »DazzaGainz wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »DazzaGainz wrote: »
Increase your cals 100 per week till you get to around 1850
Watch that. You just suggested 6 more weeks of (large theoretical) deficit eating as even 1800 is a guessed tdee with calculators pointing to over 2k.
I don't disagree that moving beyond 1850 should be slow, maybe 100 at a time; but given he is eating well below the minimum for a male right now a good initial jump to at least 1500 for a week or two followed by another good jump if it was well tolerated sounds like a good idea.
I don't disagree, just concerned that OP will freak out if the scales bounce up from the extra food
Random question - say I maintain at 1250 six days a week and then on Sunday I have a massive calorie day to average out at 1450-1500 would that be okay? Or wouldn't you recommend this...
Your 'massive' calorie day isn't really that massive though... but yes, in theory, if you like to eat that way. But at some point you'll have to eat more than the 1250 on the other days!
I've been very clean since November where given I can now afford to eat a bit more could you say I could incorporate a bit of "junk" into my days or shall I stay clean...
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DazzaGainz wrote: »DazzaGainz wrote: »
Do the program as written and eat at maintenance. Don't do a random day for your chest or extra reps or superset with bike sprints or anything else that you think would make the program better. Just follow the instructions and eat like a grown man.
Thanks mate!
Agree I'm not in a position to start improving the programs LOL
What form Cardio is better? Low intensity cardio (lowest setting on bike) where I'm sweating with heart rate at 140 or high intensity setting for a shorter time.
At the moment when do a low intensity cardio I use the excerise bike at its lowest setting doing 40KM in one hour burning supposedly 600calories.
Better for what?
What is your goal?
Why are you doing cardio?
Short of playing chicken on the highway, any form of cardio can be good for your overall health and well-being. So if you want to do cardio, do it. But if your goal is not to lose weight (which it shouldn't be at this point) you need to be eating to fuel the activity that you do.
I like to use the cardio to give myself more to eat - admittedly I ain't eating enough at the moment.
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The approach of 1500 + massive day may be ok moving back up above a minimum
However 1500 IS a minimum.
Muscles are not going to start growing big time while under these severe deficits.
Even in the presence of adequate body fat you would expect a performance impact from the size of the deficit.1 -
The approach of 1500 + massive day may be ok moving back up above a minimum
However 1500 IS a minimum.
Muscles are not going to start growing big time while under these severe deficits.
Even in the presence of adequate body fat you would expect a performance impact from the size of the deficit.
I presume you would recommend all calories to be from clean source as currently since November my diet has been strict where everyday is: protein cookie, Oats, tuna, vegetables, grapes, banana and water. No deviation at all!!!!!!!!!
Was thinking maybe start incorporating foods I've missed...
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DazzaGainz wrote: »The approach of 1500 + massive day may be ok moving back up above a minimum
However 1500 IS a minimum.
Muscles are not going to start growing big time while under these severe deficits.
Even in the presence of adequate body fat you would expect a performance impact from the size of the deficit.
I presume you would recommend all calories to be from clean source as currently since November my diet has been strict where everyday is: protein cookie, Oats, tuna, vegetables, grapes, banana and water. No deviation at all!!!!!!!!!
Was thinking maybe start incorporating foods I've missed...
You can eat what you please. It doesn't have to be 'clean'. Actually, to get your calories up, you may benefit from 'non-clean' foods.1 -
TimothyFish wrote: »No, you're just fat. "Skinny fat" means that you are slim and look like you should be healthy but tests showing your risk factors (blood pressure, etc.) indicate that you aren't.
You're saying he is fat in the last photo @TimothyFish (which I understand to be the after in that succession)?1 -
sammyliftsandeats wrote: »DazzaGainz wrote: »The approach of 1500 + massive day may be ok moving back up above a minimum
However 1500 IS a minimum.
Muscles are not going to start growing big time while under these severe deficits.
Even in the presence of adequate body fat you would expect a performance impact from the size of the deficit.
I presume you would recommend all calories to be from clean source as currently since November my diet has been strict where everyday is: protein cookie, Oats, tuna, vegetables, grapes, banana and water. No deviation at all!!!!!!!!!
Was thinking maybe start incorporating foods I've missed...
You can eat what you please. It doesn't have to be 'clean'. Actually, to get your calories up, you may benefit from 'non-clean' foods.
That's good to know! Thanks!
I suppose the key is I'm hitting my protein targets
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