Am I skinny fat? What do I do now?
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JessicaMcB wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »No, you're just fat. "Skinny fat" means that you are slim and look like you should be healthy but tests showing your risk factors (blood pressure, etc.) indicate that you aren't.
You're saying he is fat in the last photo @TimothyFish (which I understand to be the after in that succession)?JessicaMcB wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »No, you're just fat. "Skinny fat" means that you are slim and look like you should be healthy but tests showing your risk factors (blood pressure, etc.) indicate that you aren't.
You're saying he is fat in the last photo @TimothyFish (which I understand to be the after in that succession)?
Thanks Jessica - was a bit confused by the comment as I thought I made some progress lol
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DazzaGainz wrote: »sammyliftsandeats wrote: »DazzaGainz wrote: »The approach of 1500 + massive day may be ok moving back up above a minimum
However 1500 IS a minimum.
Muscles are not going to start growing big time while under these severe deficits.
Even in the presence of adequate body fat you would expect a performance impact from the size of the deficit.
I presume you would recommend all calories to be from clean source as currently since November my diet has been strict where everyday is: protein cookie, Oats, tuna, vegetables, grapes, banana and water. No deviation at all!!!!!!!!!
Was thinking maybe start incorporating foods I've missed...
You can eat what you please. It doesn't have to be 'clean'. Actually, to get your calories up, you may benefit from 'non-clean' foods.
That's good to know! Thanks!
I suppose the key is I'm hitting my protein targets
You also need to get enough fat. I'm not sure how much fat is in your protein cookie but everything else you've listed is very low in fat.2 -
DazzaGainz wrote: »JessicaMcB wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »No, you're just fat. "Skinny fat" means that you are slim and look like you should be healthy but tests showing your risk factors (blood pressure, etc.) indicate that you aren't.
You're saying he is fat in the last photo @TimothyFish (which I understand to be the after in that succession)?JessicaMcB wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »No, you're just fat. "Skinny fat" means that you are slim and look like you should be healthy but tests showing your risk factors (blood pressure, etc.) indicate that you aren't.
You're saying he is fat in the last photo @TimothyFish (which I understand to be the after in that succession)?
Thanks Jessica - was a bit confused by the comment as I thought I made some progress lol
I have a feeling some people are maybe missing that element of the post OP. Your current photo does not look fat to me. I think all the program suggestions you've gotten are aces and you're well on your way to another leg of your fitness journey
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DazzaGainz wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »DazzaGainz wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »DazzaGainz wrote: »
Increase your cals 100 per week till you get to around 1850
Watch that. You just suggested 6 more weeks of (large theoretical) deficit eating as even 1800 is a guessed tdee with calculators pointing to over 2k.
I don't disagree that moving beyond 1850 should be slow, maybe 100 at a time; but given he is eating well below the minimum for a male right now a good initial jump to at least 1500 for a week or two followed by another good jump if it was well tolerated sounds like a good idea.
I don't disagree, just concerned that OP will freak out if the scales bounce up from the extra food
Random question - say I maintain at 1250 six days a week and then on Sunday I have a massive calorie day to average out at 1450-1500 would that be okay? Or wouldn't you recommend this...
Your 'massive' calorie day isn't really that massive though... but yes, in theory, if you like to eat that way. But at some point you'll have to eat more than the 1250 on the other days!
I've been very clean since November where given I can now afford to eat a bit more could you say I could incorporate a bit of "junk" into my days or shall I stay clean...
You list 'protein cookie' under 'clean' food? That confuses me...
But anyway, eat whatever fits your calories, hitting your protein and fat minimums, and then the rest carbs.
Life is too short to never eat proper cookies!3 -
JessicaMcB wrote: »DazzaGainz wrote: »JessicaMcB wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »No, you're just fat. "Skinny fat" means that you are slim and look like you should be healthy but tests showing your risk factors (blood pressure, etc.) indicate that you aren't.
You're saying he is fat in the last photo @TimothyFish (which I understand to be the after in that succession)?JessicaMcB wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »No, you're just fat. "Skinny fat" means that you are slim and look like you should be healthy but tests showing your risk factors (blood pressure, etc.) indicate that you aren't.
You're saying he is fat in the last photo @TimothyFish (which I understand to be the after in that succession)?
Thanks Jessica - was a bit confused by the comment as I thought I made some progress lol
I have a feeling some people are maybe missing that element of the post OP. Your current photo does not look fat to me. I think all the program suggestions you've gotten are aces and you're well on your way to another leg of your fitness journey
Thanks!!! That means a lot! :-)
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JessicaMcB wrote: »DazzaGainz wrote: »JessicaMcB wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »No, you're just fat. "Skinny fat" means that you are slim and look like you should be healthy but tests showing your risk factors (blood pressure, etc.) indicate that you aren't.
You're saying he is fat in the last photo @TimothyFish (which I understand to be the after in that succession)?JessicaMcB wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »No, you're just fat. "Skinny fat" means that you are slim and look like you should be healthy but tests showing your risk factors (blood pressure, etc.) indicate that you aren't.
You're saying he is fat in the last photo @TimothyFish (which I understand to be the after in that succession)?
Thanks Jessica - was a bit confused by the comment as I thought I made some progress lol
I have a feeling some people are maybe missing that element of the post OP. Your current photo does not look fat to me. I think all the program suggestions you've gotten are aces and you're well on your way to another leg of your fitness journey
Agreed, I definitely wouldn't say fat. Personally, I would up my calories to what you have calculated to be maintenance, get plenty of protein, and work on bumping up the weight you are lifting. You will see a small increase on the scale but that is just water and waste not fat. After a little while, I would slowly increase the calories just a little and work on adding muscle. You have got to feed the gainz.1 -
JessicaMcB wrote: »DazzaGainz wrote: »JessicaMcB wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »No, you're just fat. "Skinny fat" means that you are slim and look like you should be healthy but tests showing your risk factors (blood pressure, etc.) indicate that you aren't.
You're saying he is fat in the last photo @TimothyFish (which I understand to be the after in that succession)?JessicaMcB wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »No, you're just fat. "Skinny fat" means that you are slim and look like you should be healthy but tests showing your risk factors (blood pressure, etc.) indicate that you aren't.
You're saying he is fat in the last photo @TimothyFish (which I understand to be the after in that succession)?
Thanks Jessica - was a bit confused by the comment as I thought I made some progress lol
I have a feeling some people are maybe missing that element of the post OP. Your current photo does not look fat to me. I think all the program suggestions you've gotten are aces and you're well on your way to another leg of your fitness journey
Agreed, I definitely wouldn't say fat. Personally, I would up my calories to what you have calculated to be maintenance, get plenty of protein, and work on bumping up the weight you are lifting. You will see a small increase on the scale but that is just water and waste not fat. After a little while, I would slowly increase the calories just a little and work on adding muscle. You have got to feed the gainz.
I didn't miss the question about skinny fat. I didn't respond to it because the more important and useful to answer question in the OP was "What do I do now?"1 -
DazzaGainz wrote: »The approach of 1500 + massive day may be ok moving back up above a minimum
However 1500 IS a minimum.
Muscles are not going to start growing big time while under these severe deficits.
Even in the presence of adequate body fat you would expect a performance impact from the size of the deficit.
I presume you would recommend all calories to be from clean source as currently since November my diet has been strict where everyday is: protein cookie, Oats, tuna, vegetables, grapes, banana and water. No deviation at all!!!!!!!!!
Was thinking maybe start incorporating foods I've missed...
Since you quoted my post and linked it to a recommendation for restricted eating of clean food only... I have to comment and say that you presume incorrectly.
*I* would not suggest eating clean and restricted is the "correct" way to go, at least for the vast majority of people.
You have lost weight; this is good since it was your goal.
You have not learned much about eating and eating at maintenance and you restricted aggressively. In my opinion both are sub-optimal.
Guts, glory, iron will, restricted eating plan.
Yes. You can lose weight doing all that.
and you have.
However at some point of time you have to eat at maintenance in order to consolidate your wins.
Hopefully some other MFPeops can give you sage advice. I chose to sidestep the issue by losing exactly the same way I plan to maintain. So literally for me the switch from loss to maintenance was slightly less daily activity.
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There is a difference between skinny fat and skinny toned if you want to be skinny toned insted of skinny fat i recommend weight training and protein protein protein2
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OP...keep doing stronglifts as it is intended. There's no need to do an extra chest day. Chest is covered.
Eat at least 1600 for starters, then slowly make your way to maintenance. Any gain you get will most likely be water weight. Stay at maintenance and lift, lift, lift.
Dude....come on.TimothyFish wrote: »No, you're just fat. "Skinny fat" means that you are slim and look like you should be healthy but tests showing your risk factors (blood pressure, etc.) indicate that you aren't.
OP...disregard this.
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I think @TimothyFish may have skimmed through the original post and only paid attention to the first picture.
Admittedly i did the same thing
OP i think you look fine in your after pic. Imo if you're going to work or improve on something, it would be to add some muscle. Again, just my opinion and preference.2 -
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Eat more, skip the cardio and do a lot harder weight lifting.0
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fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »I don't see skinny.
I don't see it either. BMI=20.5, not under the limit of 18.5. He could 'afford' to lose another 6-8 lbs or replace it with muscles.
I personally don't believe in the long term aspect of resistance training. It is very rare that people do it through their lifetime. IMO, better play at tennis, swim or practice karate.2 -
JessicaMcB wrote: »DazzaGainz wrote: »JessicaMcB wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »No, you're just fat. "Skinny fat" means that you are slim and look like you should be healthy but tests showing your risk factors (blood pressure, etc.) indicate that you aren't.
You're saying he is fat in the last photo @TimothyFish (which I understand to be the after in that succession)?JessicaMcB wrote: »TimothyFish wrote: »No, you're just fat. "Skinny fat" means that you are slim and look like you should be healthy but tests showing your risk factors (blood pressure, etc.) indicate that you aren't.
You're saying he is fat in the last photo @TimothyFish (which I understand to be the after in that succession)?
Thanks Jessica - was a bit confused by the comment as I thought I made some progress lol
I have a feeling some people are maybe missing that element of the post OP. Your current photo does not look fat to me. I think all the program suggestions you've gotten are aces and you're well on your way to another leg of your fitness journey
Thanks
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cerise_noir wrote: »OP...keep doing stronglifts as it is intended. There's no need to do an extra chest day. Chest is covered.
Eat at least 1600 for starters, then slowly make your way to maintenance. Any gain you get will most likely be water weight. Stay at maintenance and lift, lift, lift.
Dude....come on.TimothyFish wrote: »No, you're just fat. "Skinny fat" means that you are slim and look like you should be healthy but tests showing your risk factors (blood pressure, etc.) indicate that you aren't.
OP...disregard this.
Thanks!
I'm thinking of scaling down on cardio - would you recommend this or should I continue with it?
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Christine_72 wrote: »I think @TimothyFish may have skimmed through the original post and only paid attention to the first picture.
Admittedly i did the same thing
OP i think you look fine in your after pic. Imo if you're going to work or improve on something, it would be to add some muscle. Again, just my opinion and preference.
Thanks!
I agree that I need to add muscle!
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bienemajamfp wrote: »Eat more, skip the cardio and do a lot harder weight lifting.
Should I skip cardio won't that reduce my TDEE thus meaning I can eat less?
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TavistockToad wrote: »DazzaGainz wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »DazzaGainz wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »DazzaGainz wrote: »
Increase your cals 100 per week till you get to around 1850
Watch that. You just suggested 6 more weeks of (large theoretical) deficit eating as even 1800 is a guessed tdee with calculators pointing to over 2k.
I don't disagree that moving beyond 1850 should be slow, maybe 100 at a time; but given he is eating well below the minimum for a male right now a good initial jump to at least 1500 for a week or two followed by another good jump if it was well tolerated sounds like a good idea.
I don't disagree, just concerned that OP will freak out if the scales bounce up from the extra food
Random question - say I maintain at 1250 six days a week and then on Sunday I have a massive calorie day to average out at 1450-1500 would that be okay? Or wouldn't you recommend this...
Your 'massive' calorie day isn't really that massive though... but yes, in theory, if you like to eat that way. But at some point you'll have to eat more than the 1250 on the other days!
I've been very clean since November where given I can now afford to eat a bit more could you say I could incorporate a bit of "junk" into my days or shall I stay clean...
You list 'protein cookie' under 'clean' food? That confuses me...
But anyway, eat whatever fits your calories, hitting your protein and fat minimums, and then the rest carbs.
Life is too short to never eat proper cookies!
Are you telling me I can stuff myself with Oreos??? LOL
Thanks for all your tips! Have uped my calories to 1500 where already feeling more energy and pushing myself already from workouts.
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DazzaGainz wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »DazzaGainz wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »DazzaGainz wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »DazzaGainz wrote: »
Increase your cals 100 per week till you get to around 1850
Watch that. You just suggested 6 more weeks of (large theoretical) deficit eating as even 1800 is a guessed tdee with calculators pointing to over 2k.
I don't disagree that moving beyond 1850 should be slow, maybe 100 at a time; but given he is eating well below the minimum for a male right now a good initial jump to at least 1500 for a week or two followed by another good jump if it was well tolerated sounds like a good idea.
I don't disagree, just concerned that OP will freak out if the scales bounce up from the extra food
Random question - say I maintain at 1250 six days a week and then on Sunday I have a massive calorie day to average out at 1450-1500 would that be okay? Or wouldn't you recommend this...
Your 'massive' calorie day isn't really that massive though... but yes, in theory, if you like to eat that way. But at some point you'll have to eat more than the 1250 on the other days!
I've been very clean since November where given I can now afford to eat a bit more could you say I could incorporate a bit of "junk" into my days or shall I stay clean...
You list 'protein cookie' under 'clean' food? That confuses me...
But anyway, eat whatever fits your calories, hitting your protein and fat minimums, and then the rest carbs.
Life is too short to never eat proper cookies!
Are you telling me I can stuff myself with Oreos??? LOL
Thanks for all your tips! Have uped my calories to 1500 where already feeling more energy and pushing myself already from workouts.
Eating a couple of oreos is not the same as stuffing yourself...4 -
TavistockToad wrote: »DazzaGainz wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »DazzaGainz wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »DazzaGainz wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »DazzaGainz wrote: »
Increase your cals 100 per week till you get to around 1850
Watch that. You just suggested 6 more weeks of (large theoretical) deficit eating as even 1800 is a guessed tdee with calculators pointing to over 2k.
I don't disagree that moving beyond 1850 should be slow, maybe 100 at a time; but given he is eating well below the minimum for a male right now a good initial jump to at least 1500 for a week or two followed by another good jump if it was well tolerated sounds like a good idea.
I don't disagree, just concerned that OP will freak out if the scales bounce up from the extra food
Random question - say I maintain at 1250 six days a week and then on Sunday I have a massive calorie day to average out at 1450-1500 would that be okay? Or wouldn't you recommend this...
Your 'massive' calorie day isn't really that massive though... but yes, in theory, if you like to eat that way. But at some point you'll have to eat more than the 1250 on the other days!
I've been very clean since November where given I can now afford to eat a bit more could you say I could incorporate a bit of "junk" into my days or shall I stay clean...
You list 'protein cookie' under 'clean' food? That confuses me...
But anyway, eat whatever fits your calories, hitting your protein and fat minimums, and then the rest carbs.
Life is too short to never eat proper cookies!
Are you telling me I can stuff myself with Oreos??? LOL
Thanks for all your tips! Have uped my calories to 1500 where already feeling more energy and pushing myself already from workouts.
Eating a couple of oreos is not the same as stuffing yourself...
Mate, back in November I had one weakness and only one and that was Oreos.
I could eat 50-70 per sitting per day! (Double Stufed Oreos @ 71 calories each!!!)
My biggest accomplishment is how I can now resist lol
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DazzaGainz wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »DazzaGainz wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »DazzaGainz wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »DazzaGainz wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »DazzaGainz wrote: »
Increase your cals 100 per week till you get to around 1850
Watch that. You just suggested 6 more weeks of (large theoretical) deficit eating as even 1800 is a guessed tdee with calculators pointing to over 2k.
I don't disagree that moving beyond 1850 should be slow, maybe 100 at a time; but given he is eating well below the minimum for a male right now a good initial jump to at least 1500 for a week or two followed by another good jump if it was well tolerated sounds like a good idea.
I don't disagree, just concerned that OP will freak out if the scales bounce up from the extra food
Random question - say I maintain at 1250 six days a week and then on Sunday I have a massive calorie day to average out at 1450-1500 would that be okay? Or wouldn't you recommend this...
Your 'massive' calorie day isn't really that massive though... but yes, in theory, if you like to eat that way. But at some point you'll have to eat more than the 1250 on the other days!
I've been very clean since November where given I can now afford to eat a bit more could you say I could incorporate a bit of "junk" into my days or shall I stay clean...
You list 'protein cookie' under 'clean' food? That confuses me...
But anyway, eat whatever fits your calories, hitting your protein and fat minimums, and then the rest carbs.
Life is too short to never eat proper cookies!
Are you telling me I can stuff myself with Oreos??? LOL
Thanks for all your tips! Have uped my calories to 1500 where already feeling more energy and pushing myself already from workouts.
Eating a couple of oreos is not the same as stuffing yourself...
Mate, back in November I had one weakness and only one and that was Oreos.
I could eat 50-70 per sitting per day! (Double Stufed Oreos @ 71 calories each!!!)
My biggest accomplishment is how I can now resist lol
You're taking my comment far too literally.... eat whatever you like in moderation if it fits your calories and macros. That's the point I was making.5 -
DazzaGainz wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »DazzaGainz wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »You need to eat more. I don't think you're skinny fat though.
How tall are you?
5ft 2
So are you happy with how you look? Are you still trying to lose, maintain, or?
I feel I have a lot of fat on my back so I want to lose!
I just see skin not fat.
Start eating more and lift heavy things over and over again.2 -
fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »I don't see skinny.
I don't see it either. BMI=20.5, not under the limit of 18.5. He could 'afford' to lose another 6-8 lbs or replace it with muscles.
I personally don't believe in the long term aspect of resistance training. It is very rare that people do it through their lifetime. IMO, better play at tennis, swim or practice karate.
You may want to check with organizations like the Center for Disease Control which recommend resistance training for all adults. Look at the studies that show individuals in their 80's+ gain strength through resistance training.
As to rare that people do it throughout their lifetimes, I'm 60 and have been at it since age 15. I can point to others at my gym in the same boat.5 -
Packerjohn wrote: »You may want to check with organizations like the Center for Disease Control which recommend resistance training for all adults. Look at the studies that show individuals in their 80's+ gain strength through resistance training.
As to rare that people do it throughout their lifetimes, I'm 60 and have been at it since age 15. I can point to others at my gym in the same boat.
Well they say "Muscle-strengthening activity", definitely not meaning exclusively going at the gym for all adults.
I am not against resistance training. I did it in the past and one of my children does it regularly. Nonetheless you remain a rarity. I prefer something more playful, while keeping intensity and it takes care of your muscles. I am impressed by calisthenics practicers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKEgHKOvYTE
If I got him right, OP wants a more trimmed body. I think that he still needs to shed off some lbs to achieve that goal. His body frame is quite common among Asians and many can show one thing or two in fitness
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