Shall I cut out Porridge ?
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I have visited Honduras on multiple occasions...for breakfast I usually had Baleada. That's some noms right there...1
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arrghmatey1 wrote: »Drop the milk first before abandoning your porridge. Adding some brown sugar instead. The sugar and calories will probably be less than the milk. Also try having a a one egg omelet with it.
Oatmeal is a wonderful complex carb which doesn't spike your blood sugar and takes a good while to break down through the day.
It will be hard to replace especially if your calorie allowance is low.
I'd entirely agree with trying switching out the milk and adding eggs to breakfast, but I'm curious about the brown sugar recommendation - what's the rationale for that?
Everyone has a different experiance of satiety, but I'd find that deliberately/unnecessarily adding sugar would generally increase calories, whilst the meal less filling
If you can get a hold of some authentic muscovado, it is 'to die for' when mixed with oatmeal or yogurt. It's unrefined raw cane sugar with the molasses not removed. It's way better than regular brown sugar and takes very little to do it's flavor enhancing0 -
There are just no right and wrong answers when it comes to breakfast, it's the most individual meal in terms of fulness, I think. I like cold wholegrain cereals (eg muesli, Shreddies, Shredded Wheat) with whole milk. I'm very fond of porridge but it doesn't keep me going, so it's a lazy weekend breakfast for me, for when there's only an hour or two till lunch.
Some people can't cope without protein at breakfast, others can't cope without carbs, plenty of people eat porridge but it's not compulsory. Some like toast, others find it leaves them hungry - I mean, if you look worldwide, there are just so many different breakfast options.
Eggs are an excellent option if you want to go more for protein at breakfast rather than carbs, no matter where you are I'm sure you have access to them. Or try making smoothies? There are just too many possibilities!0 -
I find oatmeal to be not filling at all and quite calorie dense. I love the stuff but don't touch it. I need about 5 servings to be happy. I'd personally choose something with more protein and less carbs.
I'm really glad I'm not the only one who is unfilled by a single serving of oatmeal.
My friend showed me a recipe for overnight oatmeal in the crockpot and I had to have at least 2 servings to make me minimally satisfied, which completely negated being a low calorie breakfast option.0 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »eveholder4898 wrote: »So I usually have about 1 cup of porridge with milk. I want to try and find a healthy substitute that doesn't make me feel so bloated but keeps me full. ( I eat at 6:30am and don't have lunch till 12pm) so I need my breakfast to be realistic ! Oh and I live in Honduras so food variety is limited .... any ideas for a good easy breaky ?
Well, what do you like and what keeps you full?
I like oatmeal (about .25 cup dry, not sure what that is cooked, I never measure and I'd bad at eyeballing), although I eat other foods with it too (berries, vegetables, sometimes an egg). But for me, unlike you, it doesn't make me feel bloated and I do find it filling (I eat around 6 and again around 12:30, so similar schedule).
I enjoy eggs and vegetables as my usual breakfast (sometimes an omelet, sometimes not, often with cottage cheese too). But that's what I like. What you like might be different -- just experiment and remember there's no need to eat special breakfast foods, if you like dinner leftovers, eat that.
I do agree that if you have a lactose issue it could be the milk that is making you feel bloated. Have you experimented with cutting out dairy or do you know already that you are fine with dairy?
Here's another question to help her pinpoint what exactly is bloating her (because it could be the oats if she has issues with gluten):
OP, what other foods bloat you? It can't just be your breakfast. Certainly you have grains/dairy at other times.0 -
I find oatmeal to be not filling at all and quite calorie dense. I love the stuff but don't touch it. I need about 5 servings to be happy. I'd personally choose something with more protein and less carbs.
I'm really glad I'm not the only one who is unfilled by a single serving of oatmeal.
My friend showed me a recipe for overnight oatmeal in the crockpot and I had to have at least 2 servings to make me minimally satisfied, which completely negated being a low calorie breakfast option.
I need oatmeal with protein. I usually stir in some yogurt.0 -
I understand completely what you are saying..... do you have a sensitivity to all grains? For whatever reason, oatmeal (porridge) makes me super gassy and bloated by mid-morning. And I love oatmeal, especially with blueberries or peanut butter, etc in it. I've tried it "overnight" oats - I've tried it with almond milk, coconut milk - just yogurt - or just plain and I still get very bloated. Now, I make an egg/veggie casserole and cut it and use that all week. Or just a good Greek yogurt with fruit. Need to make sure the protein/fat is there to get you through to lunch!0
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GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »lemurcat12 wrote: »eveholder4898 wrote: »So I usually have about 1 cup of porridge with milk. I want to try and find a healthy substitute that doesn't make me feel so bloated but keeps me full. ( I eat at 6:30am and don't have lunch till 12pm) so I need my breakfast to be realistic ! Oh and I live in Honduras so food variety is limited .... any ideas for a good easy breaky ?
Well, what do you like and what keeps you full?
I like oatmeal (about .25 cup dry, not sure what that is cooked, I never measure and I'd bad at eyeballing), although I eat other foods with it too (berries, vegetables, sometimes an egg). But for me, unlike you, it doesn't make me feel bloated and I do find it filling (I eat around 6 and again around 12:30, so similar schedule).
I enjoy eggs and vegetables as my usual breakfast (sometimes an omelet, sometimes not, often with cottage cheese too). But that's what I like. What you like might be different -- just experiment and remember there's no need to eat special breakfast foods, if you like dinner leftovers, eat that.
I do agree that if you have a lactose issue it could be the milk that is making you feel bloated. Have you experimented with cutting out dairy or do you know already that you are fine with dairy?
Here's another question to help her pinpoint what exactly is bloating her (because it could be the oats if she has issues with gluten):
OP, what other foods bloat you? It can't just be your breakfast. Certainly you have grains/dairy at other times.
Yeah, great question.0 -
A complete alternative I like to fit in sometimes is a slice of toast with peanut butter and sliced banana. I've been thinking about it lately because I haven't had it in ages!0
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I find oatmeal to be not filling at all and quite calorie dense. I love the stuff but don't touch it. I need about 5 servings to be happy. I'd personally choose something with more protein and less carbs.
I'm really glad I'm not the only one who is unfilled by a single serving of oatmeal.
My friend showed me a recipe for overnight oatmeal in the crockpot and I had to have at least 2 servings to make me minimally satisfied, which completely negated being a low calorie breakfast option.
A serving of oatmeal never, never, never fills me up. I have it sometimes because I like the taste but I always wind up hungry within an hour or two.
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GottaBurnEmAll wrote: »I find oatmeal to be not filling at all and quite calorie dense. I love the stuff but don't touch it. I need about 5 servings to be happy. I'd personally choose something with more protein and less carbs.
I'm really glad I'm not the only one who is unfilled by a single serving of oatmeal.
My friend showed me a recipe for overnight oatmeal in the crockpot and I had to have at least 2 servings to make me minimally satisfied, which completely negated being a low calorie breakfast option.
I need oatmeal with protein. I usually stir in some yogurt.
That would be better but the volume is still so small.
I used to like zoats though. That really bulked the oats up for little added calories.0 -
I feel like by the time people finish adding crap to their oatmeal there's this like 600 calorie tiny serving. I'd rather have a bagel and cream cheese for that.4
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I feel like by the time people finish adding crap to their oatmeal there's this like 600 calorie tiny serving. I'd rather have a bagel and cream cheese for that.
Might have to do with the way you like your oats too. I like my oats mushy, kind of like those powdered baby foods like Cerelac, so the amount of liquid I add is large making the portion large. Overnight oats don't fill me up because they don't dissolve nicely into a pudding-like consistency, neither do steel cut or oven prepared. Today I have pre-logged a huge bowl of oatmeal (about 2.5 cups): 80 grams of oats (300 calories) + 30 grams of canned sour cherry (85 calories) + 10 grams of cocoa powder (22 calories) + 3 packets of splenda (12 calories). That's 420 calories for more than a pound of food. The calorie density of my oatmeal is always less than 1 calories per gram unless I add lots of peanuts butter or nuts. No bagel and cream cheese even comes even close to this amount and to how filling oats are for me.2 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »I feel like by the time people finish adding crap to their oatmeal there's this like 600 calorie tiny serving. I'd rather have a bagel and cream cheese for that.
Might have to do with the way you like your oats too. I like my oats mushy, kind of like those powdered baby foods like Cerelac, so the amount of liquid I add is large making the portion large. Overnight oats don't fill me up because they don't dissolve nicely into a pudding-like consistency, neither do steel cut or oven prepared. Today I have pre-logged a huge bowl of oatmeal (about 2.5 cups): 80 grams of oats (300 calories) + 30 grams of canned sour cherry (85 calories) + 10 grams of cocoa powder (22 calories) + 3 packets of splenda (12 calories). That's 420 calories for more than a pound of food. The calorie density of my oatmeal is always less than 1 calories per gram unless I add lots of peanuts butter or nuts. No bagel and cream cheese even comes even close to this amount and to how filling oats are for me.
Same here, when I do the individual packets I'd put two in a big bowl of hot water, mix, and let sit. It's real soupy to start but after 5-10 it's more of a thick pudding. Then I have the volume that helps me feel full.
I've been experimenting with pre-made steelcut oats this past week. I like the texture better but now the portion size is smaller.0 -
Whole milk is fine, whoever said to switch to low fat is misinformed. Whole milk is more satisfying and the calorie difference isn't significant.
Whole milk is 146 calories/cup. Skim milk is 80 calories/cup. Nearly twice as many calories for whole milk. I'd call that a significant calorie difference.
Yes, whole milk is fine. Full of nutrients. If you enjoy it and find it more satisfying (and have space for it in your calorie budget), great. Personally, I can't stand whole milk; it's like drinking cream. It also gives me nasty digestive issues. All milk except skim does this; I have a "dairy fat" issue. However, the OP's symptoms sound nothing like mine, so I'm not suggesting that's her problem.1 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »I feel like by the time people finish adding crap to their oatmeal there's this like 600 calorie tiny serving. I'd rather have a bagel and cream cheese for that.
Might have to do with the way you like your oats too. I like my oats mushy, kind of like those powdered baby foods like Cerelac, so the amount of liquid I add is large making the portion large. Overnight oats don't fill me up because they don't dissolve nicely into a pudding-like consistency, neither do steel cut or oven prepared. Today I have pre-logged a huge bowl of oatmeal (about 2.5 cups): 80 grams of oats (300 calories) + 30 grams of canned sour cherry (85 calories) + 10 grams of cocoa powder (22 calories) + 3 packets of splenda (12 calories). That's 420 calories for more than a pound of food. The calorie density of my oatmeal is always less than 1 calories per gram unless I add lots of peanuts butter or nuts. No bagel and cream cheese even comes even close to this amount and to how filling oats are for me.
Same here, when I do the individual packets I'd put two in a big bowl of hot water, mix, and let sit. It's real soupy to start but after 5-10 it's more of a thick pudding. Then I have the volume that helps me feel full.
I've been experimenting with pre-made steelcut oats this past week. I like the texture better but now the portion size is smaller.
Me too. Volume is the key to fullness. I usually take just a half cup of dry oats, blend in water to make it a fine flour and then cook for 3-5 minutes. The resulting thick porridge makes 4 cups which is filling and it's only 150 calories. Even with a tsp of sugar/cup, that's a 210 calorie meal that will keep me full for several hrs.0 -
amusedmonkey wrote: »I feel like by the time people finish adding crap to their oatmeal there's this like 600 calorie tiny serving. I'd rather have a bagel and cream cheese for that.
Might have to do with the way you like your oats too. I like my oats mushy, kind of like those powdered baby foods like Cerelac, so the amount of liquid I add is large making the portion large. Overnight oats don't fill me up because they don't dissolve nicely into a pudding-like consistency, neither do steel cut or oven prepared. Today I have pre-logged a huge bowl of oatmeal (about 2.5 cups): 80 grams of oats (300 calories) + 30 grams of canned sour cherry (85 calories) + 10 grams of cocoa powder (22 calories) + 3 packets of splenda (12 calories). That's 420 calories for more than a pound of food. The calorie density of my oatmeal is always less than 1 calories per gram unless I add lots of peanuts butter or nuts. No bagel and cream cheese even comes even close to this amount and to how filling oats are for me.
Same here, when I do the individual packets I'd put two in a big bowl of hot water, mix, and let sit. It's real soupy to start but after 5-10 it's more of a thick pudding. Then I have the volume that helps me feel full.
I've been experimenting with pre-made steelcut oats this past week. I like the texture better but now the portion size is smaller.
You could grind a small portion of them in a coffee grinder. The texture would still be there from the whole ones, but the ground oats are able to thicken a larger amount of liquid, so you get a pretty successful compromise between texture and volume.1 -
Puzzled what people are doing to their porridge, I've never hit 600 calories even when adding nuts, chocolate and double cream.
I agree with others about volume, I make my porridge with 3 parts liquid to 1 part rolled oats by volume, rather than the 2:1 on the packet. I like it smoother.0 -
Porridge always made me feel bloaty too - I go for greek yogurt with 12gms toasted almonds, tsp of honey and some fresh fruit like strawberries or blueberries. Keeps me full, tastes delicious and is pretty low in calories
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I have Ready Brek (instant porridge) made with water instead of milk + 5 g cacao). Keeps me full till lunch. Today is avocado and bacon on toast. Nom.0
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CattOfTheGarage wrote: »Puzzled what people are doing to their porridge, I've never hit 600 calories even when adding nuts, chocolate and double cream.
I agree with others about volume, I make my porridge with 3 parts liquid to 1 part rolled oats by volume, rather than the 2:1 on the packet. I like it smoother.
I can hit 600 easily, but that's because 450 of it is from the oats. 120g oats+2.25c water+2 whole eggs beat in+cinnamon, cumin and tumeric comes really close to that. About 596 iirc, depending upon egg weight.0 -
It's funny how wildly different our servings of the oats themselves is. My 30g seems piddly compared to everyone else! I do add 250ml of semi-skimmed milk to that though, 15g dried fruit, 10g honey/maple syrup and a sprinkle of cinnamon. About 300 calories. Makes a hearty bowl that fills me up. If not cutting I probably add a bit more to 40g oats but I honestly don't need it.1
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I find that dairy in general makes me bloat so I avoid it.
One of my favorite go too breakfasts is 3-4 scrambled egg whites with whatever variety of vegetables you have on hand and I add one or two tablespoons of plain cooked oatmeal... this makes the eggs creamy and delicious and doesn't change the flavor. Between the protein and the fiber (slow burning carbs), keeps me full for hours.0 -
I feel like by the time people finish adding crap to their oatmeal there's this like 600 calorie tiny serving. I'd rather have a bagel and cream cheese for that.
Mine are 350 or so, like all breakfasts I have. But I'm not promoting them, as I don't think they work for everyone.
Current favorite way: about 150 calories of oats (steel cut, seriously this seems like a reasonable serving to me and if I didn't want a more balanced/diverse meal, it plus berries would be seem like a full breakfast to me), 2 eggs (about 150 cal, I do them sunny side up and mix them in), some vegetables, maybe a tiny bit of feta cheese.
Sweeter way: same amount of oats, vanilla whey protein powder, blueberries, some veg and cottage cheese on the side.0 -
CattOfTheGarage wrote: »Puzzled what people are doing to their porridge, I've never hit 600 calories even when adding nuts, chocolate and double cream.
I agree with others about volume, I make my porridge with 3 parts liquid to 1 part rolled oats by volume, rather than the 2:1 on the packet. I like it smoother.
Just for the kicks, I made one my higher calorie oats for dinner today (that's oatmeal twice in one day!) and it did not reach 600 calories.
I used 400 ml of liquid (homemade cashew milk, finally found a nut milk I like but sadly it's higher than full fat dairy milk in calories). The oats are thicker, so I rubbed them with my hands a bit to crumble some of them and make the oatmeal creamier while keeping some of the texture because I was too lazy to wash the grinder. It worked! Total weight of the prepared dish: 431 grams or nearly a pound of food. It's 3 hours later and I feel like I've just eaten.
This is how it looked and that's the consistency I like. It turned out super creamy too, probably because of cashew milk. This is a 2 cup bowl. It may not look like due to the angle of the picture, but the oatmeal fills it up to about 1.5-1.75 cups.
This is how the calories look:
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DoneWorking wrote: »I don't know if you can get it, but I really like Bob's Red Mill 10-grain cereal as an alternative to oatmeal/porridge. I make it with unsweetened almond milk in the microwave. I add blackberries, Splenda and chopped walnuts to it.
Something tells me some of these ingredients might be rare in Honduras.0 -
Do I dare to eat a peach?2
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Wow can't believe the amount of response I have had. Sorry for the late response, I'm still trying to work out how this all works!
I am defiantly going to try cutting out the milk, or at least minimising the amount I use. Thank you all so much for your help. I will report back to you if I notice a change in bloating !!!0 -
I used to love porridge, but I gave it up because I would get hungry again in about 2 hours. I decided to force myself to like plain Greek yogurt, and now I really do like it. I sprinkle it with chopped walnuts and frozen blueberries and sometimes cinnamon. Can you get Greek yogurt where you are?0
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