From heavily overweighted to lean but looking for muscle now. What to do??

Ih8Rain2
Ih8Rain2 Posts: 77 Member
I have dropped my weight with about 22kg. I did this by going into a cal deficit of at least 500. I started weight exercises for about 3 times per week. Some weeks more but some weeks less depending on my traveling.

I succeeded to reach my initial goal of 90kg. It took my about 10months. I keep my macros and I eat healthy. The effects were clear. I will post basically 3 pictures. Start (Feb 2016, July 2016 and as I am right now)

From where I am now I would like to build some more mass. In terms of cal intake I am looking for a balance to grow mass but not to gain weight. Hence exchanging fat for muscle.

I went into a 3 times weightlifting and a 1time cardio per week regime.

I am about 187cm tall. My call intake is around 2300-2500cals/day.

What would be the best strategy to build muscle?
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  • Ih8Rain2
    Ih8Rain2 Posts: 77 Member
  • Ih8Rain2
    Ih8Rain2 Posts: 77 Member
  • preshalin
    preshalin Posts: 52 Member
    The 3 times lifting and 1 time cardio per week... is that what you did for the 10 months where you lost 22kgs?

  • StealthHealth
    StealthHealth Posts: 2,417 Member
    Recomp - eat at around maintenance calories whilst following a strength building lifting protocol (see here vor examples http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10332083/which-lifting-program-is-the-best-for-you#latest)

  • Ih8Rain2
    Ih8Rain2 Posts: 77 Member
    preshalin wrote: »
    The 3 times lifting and 1 time cardio per week... is that what you did for the 10 months where you lost 22kgs?

    Yes. But not very structured. Mainly to lose weight. Now I want to follow a strategy to gain muscle.
  • annaskiski
    annaskiski Posts: 1,212 Member
    If you're looking for a program, go here:

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10332083/which-lifting-program-is-the-best-for-you/p1

    It sounds like you want to bulk now? Are you ready for that(mentally)? If not, recomp is the way to go.

    Go read on the Gaining Weight/Body Building forums and decide
    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/categories/goal-gaining-weight/p1
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,432 MFP Moderator
    Recomp - eat at around maintenance calories whilst following a strength building lifting protocol (see here vor examples http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10332083/which-lifting-program-is-the-best-for-you#latest)

    I'd agree with this.


    OP, since you don't want to gain weight but hopefully some more muscle than a recomp (or eating around maintenance and following a progressive overload lifting program) will yield you the best results.

  • NikkiiBaby68
    NikkiiBaby68 Posts: 55 Member
    are you looking for muscle as in bigger or muscle as in lean muscle mass
  • Ih8Rain2
    Ih8Rain2 Posts: 77 Member
    Lean mass although I don't fully understand the difference in your question
  • Ih8Rain2
    Ih8Rain2 Posts: 77 Member
    are you looking for muscle as in bigger or muscle as in lean muscle mass

    Lean mass
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,432 MFP Moderator
    Lean mass although I don't fully understand the difference in your question

    There isn't a difference. Muscle is lean. The size of those muscles depend on the amount of time trying to build mass, and generally "supplementation". One does not generally as a huge ton of bulk (found in many body builders) from doing basic weight lifting. And considering all things equal, you would be able to a monitor how "big" you get and adjust as necessary.
  • preshalin
    preshalin Posts: 52 Member
    preshalin wrote: »
    The 3 times lifting and 1 time cardio per week... is that what you did for the 10 months where you lost 22kgs?

    Yes. But not very structured. Mainly to lose weight. Now I want to follow a strategy to gain muscle.

    Thank you. I need to lose fat at the moment.

    I have dropped the calories by about 500. I try to go the gym at least 3 times a week. But I have only been doing mainly cardio. That's why I asked the question.

    Thanks!
  • psuLemon
    psuLemon Posts: 38,432 MFP Moderator
    preshalin wrote: »
    preshalin wrote: »
    The 3 times lifting and 1 time cardio per week... is that what you did for the 10 months where you lost 22kgs?

    Yes. But not very structured. Mainly to lose weight. Now I want to follow a strategy to gain muscle.

    Thank you. I need to lose fat at the moment.

    I have dropped the calories by about 500. I try to go the gym at least 3 times a week. But I have only been doing mainly cardio. That's why I asked the question.

    Thanks!

    If you want concentrated fat loss (meaning minimal muscle loss), I'd lift 3x a week to help maintain muscle and eat adequate protein (~.6-.8g/lb of weight). If you want some hope of gaining muscle, then you want a well structured lifting routine focuses around progressive overload.
  • preshalin
    preshalin Posts: 52 Member
    psuLemon wrote: »
    preshalin wrote: »
    preshalin wrote: »
    The 3 times lifting and 1 time cardio per week... is that what you did for the 10 months where you lost 22kgs?

    Yes. But not very structured. Mainly to lose weight. Now I want to follow a strategy to gain muscle.

    Thank you. I need to lose fat at the moment.

    I have dropped the calories by about 500. I try to go the gym at least 3 times a week. But I have only been doing mainly cardio. That's why I asked the question.

    Thanks!

    If you want concentrated fat loss (meaning minimal muscle loss), I'd lift 3x a week to help maintain muscle and eat adequate protein (~.6-.8g/lb of weight). If you want some hope of gaining muscle, then you want a well structured lifting routine focuses around progressive overload.

    This is what I want! Thank you for that!
  • Ih8Rain2
    Ih8Rain2 Posts: 77 Member
    But it took me 10months. So not a 12weeks madness program or something like that. Just gradually and consistently. I hit one or two plateaus. Review my intake and my exercise and continued.
  • Ih8Rain2
    Ih8Rain2 Posts: 77 Member
    JB035 wrote: »
    Dang! Sir, you look great! You want to recomp from what you just described. Do you know what your maintenance cals are?

    Again! Great job on loosing the weight! Isn't it funny how we are never satisfied with what we have? There are many 53 year old men who would kill for what you've achieved... shoot there are many men who would like to be as lean as you are!

    Hi JB,

    Thanks for your inspiring comments. I am happy so far but the journey isn't over.

    I guess my maintenance cal around 2300-2500cals/day.

    I have set my MFP at 2000. So if I cheat a little bit or misinterpret the quantities I eat I still be ok. I try to get not less then 200gr of proteins a day. I don't gain weight but do I gain muscle? I read somewhere that muscle growth will be not more then about 0.5kg per month. So I will check that in a year's time...
  • Ih8Rain2
    Ih8Rain2 Posts: 77 Member
    So from all the remarks I have to recomp (?), maintaining weight but growing muscle. I have looked at Stronglifts 5x5. It seems a simple straightforward program. Would that be the right choice?
  • 3bambi3
    3bambi3 Posts: 1,650 Member
    edited March 2017
    Here's a really helpful thread on recomp. Tons of information.

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10177803/recomposition-maintaining-weight-while-losing-fat/p1

    Great work, btw. You look fab!
  • JB035
    JB035 Posts: 336 Member
    Really thinking about it. I'd start a progressive loading program and see how your body reacts to the load. You just might get where you need to be with out to many adjustments.
  • Ih8Rain2
    Ih8Rain2 Posts: 77 Member
    edited March 2017
    3bambi3 wrote: »
    Here's a really helpful thread on recomp. Tons of information.

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10177803/recomposition-maintaining-weight-while-losing-fat/p1

    Great work, btw. You look fab!

    Hi Bambi,

    Thanks for your feedback. I also went to that link and it gave some good insights. Plenty to go on. Thank you again.
  • Schila64
    Schila64 Posts: 240 Member
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    Wow, congratulations. You look amazing
  • Ih8Rain2
    Ih8Rain2 Posts: 77 Member
    Schila64 wrote: »
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    Wow, congratulations. You look amazing

    Hi Schila64,

    Thanks. I am blushing
  • Ih8Rain2
    Ih8Rain2 Posts: 77 Member
    JB035 wrote: »
    Really thinking about it. I'd start a progressive loading program and see how your body reacts to the load. You just might get where you need to be with out to many adjustments.

    I am going to try. O yes !
  • Jockamo319
    Jockamo319 Posts: 22 Member
    Great job. I'm 52 and on a similar journey. Just trying to slowly keep losing, with reasonable lifting routine, till I get the lean look back. Your success is inspiring!
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