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Cutaway_Collar wrote: »Adam, you should watch the notebook too. I was made to watch it.
I've actually seen that, funnily enough! lol0 -
PersianKitty94 wrote: »The best way to rate it: Was it still a better love story than Twilight?
UP told a better love story in its first four minutes than the whole of the Twilight Saga4 -
I thought it was trying to romaticize abuse. Not of the woman but of the man. She chose it...he was functioning the only way he could. That's sad to me.1
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DeficitDuchess wrote: »While I am not, vanilla I'm not; vile either & thus I've no interest in, viewing this ill treatment of; people! To me it'd be, like watching a glorified sexual version of; Roots & to me consensual slavery's a, slap in the face to; those that're/were slaves whether, sexual or not. Plus it, also minimizes their; suffering because someone's then able to excuse it as not being so bad since, people consent to; being treated this way.
I have to say that to some people it is not a consent thing but a sex thing. There are a lot of people that like bondage, it is their turn on go to place to play and let loose in a private setting. If both partners are willing there is no slavery involved, it is however another avenue for enjoying sex just like using toys are or having sex in public.1 -
tmanfromtexas wrote: »DeficitDuchess wrote: »While I am not, vanilla I'm not; vile either & thus I've no interest in, viewing this ill treatment of; people! To me it'd be, like watching a glorified sexual version of; Roots & to me consensual slavery's a, slap in the face to; those that're/were slaves whether, sexual or not. Plus it, also minimizes their; suffering because someone's then able to excuse it as not being so bad since, people consent to; being treated this way.
I have to say that to some people it is not a consent thing but a sex thing. There are a lot of people that like bondage, it is their turn on go to place to play and let loose in a private setting. If both partners are willing there is no slavery involved, it is however another avenue for enjoying sex just like using toys are or having sex in public.
It's a fetish... like feet and wearing cartoon costumes. To each their own. I say get your freak on anyway you want as long as it's consensual.3 -
DeficitDuchess wrote: »While I am not, vanilla I'm not; vile either & thus I've no interest in, viewing this ill treatment of; people! To me it'd be, like watching a glorified sexual version of; Roots & to me consensual slavery's a, slap in the face to; those that're/were slaves whether, sexual or not. Plus it, also minimizes their; suffering because someone's then able to excuse it as not being so bad since, people consent to; being treated this way.
Huh? This is like saying you dont agree with consensual sex because it minimizes the horror of rape. Your saying that my partner and I, who are both consenting adults, cant live out our fantasies because it may make someone else (who has absolutely nothing to do with what we are doing) feel bad? What if we dont tell them about it? Would that be more acceptable? There is a HUGE difference between actions taken by consenting adults and situations forced on people.
I've read the books and I saw the first movie. Really not with it.CowgirlBaby42 wrote: »this movie is so different then the real life of BDSM
Soooo much this.Kepplekakes wrote: »Its was completely boring! I expected way more.
My wife's exact words lol2 -
tmanfromtexas wrote: »DeficitDuchess wrote: »While I am not, vanilla I'm not; vile either & thus I've no interest in, viewing this ill treatment of; people! To me it'd be, like watching a glorified sexual version of; Roots & to me consensual slavery's a, slap in the face to; those that're/were slaves whether, sexual or not. Plus it, also minimizes their; suffering because someone's then able to excuse it as not being so bad since, people consent to; being treated this way.
I have to say that to some people it is not a consent thing but a sex thing. There are a lot of people that like bondage, it is their turn on go to place to play and let loose in a private setting. If both partners are willing there is no slavery involved, it is however another avenue for enjoying sex just like using toys are or having sex in public.DeficitDuchess wrote: »While I am not, vanilla I'm not; vile either & thus I've no interest in, viewing this ill treatment of; people! To me it'd be, like watching a glorified sexual version of; Roots & to me consensual slavery's a, slap in the face to; those that're/were slaves whether, sexual or not. Plus it, also minimizes their; suffering because someone's then able to excuse it as not being so bad since, people consent to; being treated this way.
Huh? This is like saying you dont agree with consensual sex because it minimizes the horror of rape. Your saying that my partner and I, who are both consenting adults, cant live out our fantasies because it may make someone else (who has absolutely nothing to do with what we are doing) feel bad? What if we dont tell them about it? Would that be more acceptable? There is a HUGE difference between actions taken by consenting adults and situations forced on people.
I've read the books and I saw the first movie. Really not with it.CowgirlBaby42 wrote: »this movie is so different then the real life of BDSM
Soooo much this.Kepplekakes wrote: »Its was completely boring! I expected way more.
My wife's exact words lol
As I've said I am not vanilla but why'd someone desire to, pretend to be a rape victim via; "play rape"?
For instance we hospitalize anorexics despite, their consent to; starve themselves & thus their extreme behavior also minimizes the, suffering of people whom're truly starving without; it being a choice! 1 could become desensitized to the plight of starvation by indicating that since, there're people whom choose to starve themselves then; starving isn't a problem!
@Morgaen73 plus healthy sex isn't a, prerequisite to; rape. Just like, drinking water isn't to; drowning!0 -
Kepplekakes wrote: »I suspect someone is actually more vanilla than they think they are.
Choosing not to be disrespectful of, victim's plights via mocking them; isn't being vanilla!3 -
DeficitDuchess wrote: »tmanfromtexas wrote: »DeficitDuchess wrote: »While I am not, vanilla I'm not; vile either & thus I've no interest in, viewing this ill treatment of; people! To me it'd be, like watching a glorified sexual version of; Roots & to me consensual slavery's a, slap in the face to; those that're/were slaves whether, sexual or not. Plus it, also minimizes their; suffering because someone's then able to excuse it as not being so bad since, people consent to; being treated this way.
I have to say that to some people it is not a consent thing but a sex thing. There are a lot of people that like bondage, it is their turn on go to place to play and let loose in a private setting. If both partners are willing there is no slavery involved, it is however another avenue for enjoying sex just like using toys are or having sex in public.DeficitDuchess wrote: »While I am not, vanilla I'm not; vile either & thus I've no interest in, viewing this ill treatment of; people! To me it'd be, like watching a glorified sexual version of; Roots & to me consensual slavery's a, slap in the face to; those that're/were slaves whether, sexual or not. Plus it, also minimizes their; suffering because someone's then able to excuse it as not being so bad since, people consent to; being treated this way.
Huh? This is like saying you dont agree with consensual sex because it minimizes the horror of rape. Your saying that my partner and I, who are both consenting adults, cant live out our fantasies because it may make someone else (who has absolutely nothing to do with what we are doing) feel bad? What if we dont tell them about it? Would that be more acceptable? There is a HUGE difference between actions taken by consenting adults and situations forced on people.
I've read the books and I saw the first movie. Really not with it.CowgirlBaby42 wrote: »this movie is so different then the real life of BDSM
Soooo much this.Kepplekakes wrote: »Its was completely boring! I expected way more.
My wife's exact words lol
As I've said I am not vanilla but why'd someone desire to, pretend to be a rape victim via; "play rape"?
For instance we hospitalize anorexics despite, their consent to; starve themselves & thus their extreme behavior also minimizes the, suffering of people whom're truly starving without; it being a choice! 1 could become desensitized to the plight of starvation by indicating that since, there're people whom choose to starve themselves then; starving isn't a problem!
@Morgaen73 plus healthy sex isn't a, prerequisite to; rape. Just like, drinking water isn't to; drowning!
I have a friend who was abused by her uncle. She and her boyfriend partake in rape play. It is her way of dealing with it. I dont understand it but I do respect it. Who are you to judge?
Let me be honest. I enjoy getting the *kitten* flogged out of me. Helps me work through some of my own crap and my wife enjoys flogging me. Again, who are you to judge or imply that it is wrong (or in your words "vile") because somewhere in some place I am completely unaware of someone is actually being whipped against their will? Again, there is a huge difference between consensual play and abuse.
Talking about water, we are in a severe drought. Our city literally has enough water for 3 more months and it is not our rainy season. Are you going to empty your pool and stop showering now because showering desensitizes you to our plight?
Also healthy BDSM play is not a prerequisite to slavery and abuse.
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DeficitDuchess wrote: »tmanfromtexas wrote: »DeficitDuchess wrote: »While I am not, vanilla I'm not; vile either & thus I've no interest in, viewing this ill treatment of; people! To me it'd be, like watching a glorified sexual version of; Roots & to me consensual slavery's a, slap in the face to; those that're/were slaves whether, sexual or not. Plus it, also minimizes their; suffering because someone's then able to excuse it as not being so bad since, people consent to; being treated this way.
I have to say that to some people it is not a consent thing but a sex thing. There are a lot of people that like bondage, it is their turn on go to place to play and let loose in a private setting. If both partners are willing there is no slavery involved, it is however another avenue for enjoying sex just like using toys are or having sex in public.DeficitDuchess wrote: »While I am not, vanilla I'm not; vile either & thus I've no interest in, viewing this ill treatment of; people! To me it'd be, like watching a glorified sexual version of; Roots & to me consensual slavery's a, slap in the face to; those that're/were slaves whether, sexual or not. Plus it, also minimizes their; suffering because someone's then able to excuse it as not being so bad since, people consent to; being treated this way.
Huh? This is like saying you dont agree with consensual sex because it minimizes the horror of rape. Your saying that my partner and I, who are both consenting adults, cant live out our fantasies because it may make someone else (who has absolutely nothing to do with what we are doing) feel bad? What if we dont tell them about it? Would that be more acceptable? There is a HUGE difference between actions taken by consenting adults and situations forced on people.
I've read the books and I saw the first movie. Really not with it.CowgirlBaby42 wrote: »this movie is so different then the real life of BDSM
Soooo much this.Kepplekakes wrote: »Its was completely boring! I expected way more.
My wife's exact words lol
As I've said I am not vanilla but why'd someone desire to, pretend to be a rape victim via; "play rape"?
For instance we hospitalize anorexics despite, their consent to; starve themselves & thus their extreme behavior also minimizes the, suffering of people whom're truly starving without; it being a choice! 1 could become desensitized to the plight of starvation by indicating that since, there're people whom choose to starve themselves then; starving isn't a problem!
@Morgaen73 plus healthy sex isn't a, prerequisite to; rape. Just like, drinking water isn't to; drowning!
I have a friend who was abused by her uncle and she and her boyfriend partake in rape play. It is her way of dealing with it. Who are you to judge?
Talking about water, we are in a severe draught. Our city literally has enough water for 3 more months and it is not our rainy season. Are you going to empty your pool and stop showering now because showering desensitizes you to our plight?
Let me be honest. I enjoy getting the *kitten* flogged out of me. Helps me work through some of my own crap and my wife enjoys flogging me. Again, who are you to judge or imply that it is wrong because somewhere in some place I am completely unaware of someone is actually being whipped against their will?
Well then why's it, okay to; institutionalize anorexics because their starving themselves might, help them deal with; their self image?0 -
There was definetly a side of cheesy served up with the first one (haven't seen the second) but I'm getting out my shovel 'cuz I was diggin' it.0
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DeficitDuchess wrote: »DeficitDuchess wrote: »tmanfromtexas wrote: »DeficitDuchess wrote: »While I am not, vanilla I'm not; vile either & thus I've no interest in, viewing this ill treatment of; people! To me it'd be, like watching a glorified sexual version of; Roots & to me consensual slavery's a, slap in the face to; those that're/were slaves whether, sexual or not. Plus it, also minimizes their; suffering because someone's then able to excuse it as not being so bad since, people consent to; being treated this way.
I have to say that to some people it is not a consent thing but a sex thing. There are a lot of people that like bondage, it is their turn on go to place to play and let loose in a private setting. If both partners are willing there is no slavery involved, it is however another avenue for enjoying sex just like using toys are or having sex in public.DeficitDuchess wrote: »While I am not, vanilla I'm not; vile either & thus I've no interest in, viewing this ill treatment of; people! To me it'd be, like watching a glorified sexual version of; Roots & to me consensual slavery's a, slap in the face to; those that're/were slaves whether, sexual or not. Plus it, also minimizes their; suffering because someone's then able to excuse it as not being so bad since, people consent to; being treated this way.
Huh? This is like saying you dont agree with consensual sex because it minimizes the horror of rape. Your saying that my partner and I, who are both consenting adults, cant live out our fantasies because it may make someone else (who has absolutely nothing to do with what we are doing) feel bad? What if we dont tell them about it? Would that be more acceptable? There is a HUGE difference between actions taken by consenting adults and situations forced on people.
I've read the books and I saw the first movie. Really not with it.CowgirlBaby42 wrote: »this movie is so different then the real life of BDSM
Soooo much this.Kepplekakes wrote: »Its was completely boring! I expected way more.
My wife's exact words lol
As I've said I am not vanilla but why'd someone desire to, pretend to be a rape victim via; "play rape"?
For instance we hospitalize anorexics despite, their consent to; starve themselves & thus their extreme behavior also minimizes the, suffering of people whom're truly starving without; it being a choice! 1 could become desensitized to the plight of starvation by indicating that since, there're people whom choose to starve themselves then; starving isn't a problem!
@Morgaen73 plus healthy sex isn't a, prerequisite to; rape. Just like, drinking water isn't to; drowning!
I have a friend who was abused by her uncle and she and her boyfriend partake in rape play. It is her way of dealing with it. Who are you to judge?
Talking about water, we are in a severe draught. Our city literally has enough water for 3 more months and it is not our rainy season. Are you going to empty your pool and stop showering now because showering desensitizes you to our plight?
Let me be honest. I enjoy getting the *kitten* flogged out of me. Helps me work through some of my own crap and my wife enjoys flogging me. Again, who are you to judge or imply that it is wrong because somewhere in some place I am completely unaware of someone is actually being whipped against their will?
Well then why's it, okay to; institutionalize anorexics because their starving themselves might, help them deal with; their self image?
Uhm perhaps because they are harming themselves? I have no idea why your laws are the way they are. I can tell you it has absolutely buggerall to do with starving children in Africa.2 -
PersianKitty94 wrote: »The best way to rate it: Was it still a better love story than Twilight?
Well, it was a direct rip=off of Twilight, so it's tough to say. Both are insulting to the idea of literature and movies.0 -
browneyedgirl749 wrote: »tmanfromtexas wrote: »DeficitDuchess wrote: »While I am not, vanilla I'm not; vile either & thus I've no interest in, viewing this ill treatment of; people! To me it'd be, like watching a glorified sexual version of; Roots & to me consensual slavery's a, slap in the face to; those that're/were slaves whether, sexual or not. Plus it, also minimizes their; suffering because someone's then able to excuse it as not being so bad since, people consent to; being treated this way.
I have to say that to some people it is not a consent thing but a sex thing. There are a lot of people that like bondage, it is their turn on go to place to play and let loose in a private setting. If both partners are willing there is no slavery involved, it is however another avenue for enjoying sex just like using toys are or having sex in public.
It's a fetish... like feet and wearing cartoon costumes. To each their own. I say get your freak on anyway you want as long as it's consensual.
None of this is why people consider the relationship abusive.0 -
If anything, I think these books and movies (no matter how cheesy) has helped society open up about something that was so on the DL for decades. It's more than just bedroom play to some people. It's an overall lifestyle. Some men and women love to be dominated 24/7. BDSM isn't just about female submissives. Women can be a dominatrix. You can have some of the most powerful professional women being dominate during the day turn into being a submissive at night, all by their choice. One of them is a good friend of mine. She's an attorney, a damn good one. She enjoys beating men in the courtroom. But at night, she's all "yes sir no sir" and takes orders from her man. She says it's her way of relieving the stress of her day. People deal with tragic previous events and stress in all different ways. Some like to talk it out, some like to have a good *kitten* spanking. No one has any right to judge how people deal with their demons. I don't judge people who are vanilla, so I don't expect them to judge me when I tell them I keep a flogger, blind fold, and restraints in my bedroom.5
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DeficitDuchess wrote: »DeficitDuchess wrote: »tmanfromtexas wrote: »DeficitDuchess wrote: »While I am not, vanilla I'm not; vile either & thus I've no interest in, viewing this ill treatment of; people! To me it'd be, like watching a glorified sexual version of; Roots & to me consensual slavery's a, slap in the face to; those that're/were slaves whether, sexual or not. Plus it, also minimizes their; suffering because someone's then able to excuse it as not being so bad since, people consent to; being treated this way.
I have to say that to some people it is not a consent thing but a sex thing. There are a lot of people that like bondage, it is their turn on go to place to play and let loose in a private setting. If both partners are willing there is no slavery involved, it is however another avenue for enjoying sex just like using toys are or having sex in public.DeficitDuchess wrote: »While I am not, vanilla I'm not; vile either & thus I've no interest in, viewing this ill treatment of; people! To me it'd be, like watching a glorified sexual version of; Roots & to me consensual slavery's a, slap in the face to; those that're/were slaves whether, sexual or not. Plus it, also minimizes their; suffering because someone's then able to excuse it as not being so bad since, people consent to; being treated this way.
Huh? This is like saying you dont agree with consensual sex because it minimizes the horror of rape. Your saying that my partner and I, who are both consenting adults, cant live out our fantasies because it may make someone else (who has absolutely nothing to do with what we are doing) feel bad? What if we dont tell them about it? Would that be more acceptable? There is a HUGE difference between actions taken by consenting adults and situations forced on people.
I've read the books and I saw the first movie. Really not with it.CowgirlBaby42 wrote: »this movie is so different then the real life of BDSM
Soooo much this.Kepplekakes wrote: »Its was completely boring! I expected way more.
My wife's exact words lol
As I've said I am not vanilla but why'd someone desire to, pretend to be a rape victim via; "play rape"?
For instance we hospitalize anorexics despite, their consent to; starve themselves & thus their extreme behavior also minimizes the, suffering of people whom're truly starving without; it being a choice! 1 could become desensitized to the plight of starvation by indicating that since, there're people whom choose to starve themselves then; starving isn't a problem!
@Morgaen73 plus healthy sex isn't a, prerequisite to; rape. Just like, drinking water isn't to; drowning!
I have a friend who was abused by her uncle and she and her boyfriend partake in rape play. It is her way of dealing with it. Who are you to judge?
Talking about water, we are in a severe draught. Our city literally has enough water for 3 more months and it is not our rainy season. Are you going to empty your pool and stop showering now because showering desensitizes you to our plight?
Let me be honest. I enjoy getting the *kitten* flogged out of me. Helps me work through some of my own crap and my wife enjoys flogging me. Again, who are you to judge or imply that it is wrong because somewhere in some place I am completely unaware of someone is actually being whipped against their will?
Well then why's it, okay to; institutionalize anorexics because their starving themselves might, help them deal with; their self image?
Two totally different things. When two people are having consensual sex, they are not hurting one another, they are participating in an act that both want. Just a little judgmental in my opinion but that is what the interwebs are for.1 -
They are the silliest books I've ever read and the movies are fun but brainless. If you want good erotica movie watch the 80's movie, 9 1/2 Weeks, when Mickey Rourke looked great before all his plastic surgeries. (By no means am I promoting physical or mental abuse. This was one of those movies I happened to watch back when).
Love, Love, LOVE 9 1/2 Weeks! Much better than 50 Shades, books or movies. They dropped the ball when casting Jamie Dornan...should've been Ian Somerhalder HANDS DOWN!! Who in hell would drool over Dornan?1 -
I read the books, I can't say I was impressed but they were good enough to have me complete the trilogy.
IMHO the movie (I only saw the first) was extremely mis-cast. Anastasia was a somewhat flighty, silly girl in the books, all that "Inner goddess" stuff. Dakota Johnson played her as a sulky teenager. Christian is described as thin and moody (maybe Dakota Johnson should have played that part?) Jamie Duran seemed to be laughing inside and not at all sulky. He also didn't fit the physical description in the book.
I thought some of the sets were awful, when does a luxury hotel room look like a 1950's rumpus room? In 50 Shades of Grey.
I'll probably see the second one when it's available on DVD...from the library. Can't see myself paying to see it.3 -
I'm constructing my new red room at this very moment4
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DeficitDuchess wrote: »tmanfromtexas wrote: »DeficitDuchess wrote: »While I am not, vanilla I'm not; vile either & thus I've no interest in, viewing this ill treatment of; people! To me it'd be, like watching a glorified sexual version of; Roots & to me consensual slavery's a, slap in the face to; those that're/were slaves whether, sexual or not. Plus it, also minimizes their; suffering because someone's then able to excuse it as not being so bad since, people consent to; being treated this way.
For instance we hospitalize anorexics despite, their consent to; starve themselves & thus their extreme behavior also minimizes the, suffering of people whom're truly starving without; it being a choice! 1 could become desensitized to the plight of starvation by indicating that since, there're people whom choose to starve themselves then; starving isn't a problem!
@Morgaen73 plus healthy sex isn't a, prerequisite to; rape. Just like, drinking water isn't to; drowning!
I think you are confused about eating disorders, slavery and sub/dom agreements.
BTW you really shouldn't comment on other peoples fetishes as vile. Especially when you can't grasp the concept of being in a consenting adult relationship.
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