Learning to eat clean , Tips
rochelledykes
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I make the wrong food choices easily. I need some ideas on what to eat.
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Start simple by substituting things. sweeteners instead of sugar. Skimmed instead of semi or whole. Wholemeal instead of white. Oatmeal instead of shreddies/sugary cereals. Bit by bit.3
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Start simple by substituting things. sweeteners instead of sugar. Skimmed instead of semi or whole. Wholemeal instead of white. Oatmeal instead of shreddies/sugary cereals. Bit by bit.
How are sweeteners more clean than sugar? Or skimmed milk compared to semi or whole?
OP - clean is a subjective term. It means different things to different people. Personally I don't think any food is good or bad, there are foods however that are more nutrient dense than others and should make up the majority of your diet. I try to plan my main meals around a protein, lots of vegies and some healthy fats. I have dairy, fruit and some grains on occasion. If I have room, I can fit in treats like chocolate, sweets, desserts etc...9 -
My tip is to avoid arbitrary labels like "clean" that mean something different to everyone and so are really unhelpful as far as something to strive for.
What are your goals? Trying to lose weight? How much? Did you Enter your stats and goal and a rate of loss into MFP? Do you log your food, accurately using a food scale? Do you exercise?
What specific food challenges do you have? What do you consider the "wrong foods"? Any food can be eaten as part of an overall healthy diet, even foods you may be thinking are "wrong" or bad. Fill up your day with foods that are more nutrient dense, and then allow room for some of the treats you love, as you can fit them in. To me, that's a healthier mindset than an arbitrary list of foods that you think are good, and another you think is bad, and you try with all your might to stick to one list which is likely not a sustainable long term approach.
Good luck!13 -
livingleanlivingclean wrote: »Start simple by substituting things. sweeteners instead of sugar. Skimmed instead of semi or whole. Wholemeal instead of white. Oatmeal instead of shreddies/sugary cereals. Bit by bit.
How are sweeteners more clean than sugar? Or skimmed milk compared to semi or whole?
OP - clean is a subjective term. It means different things to different people. Personally I don't think any food is good or bad, there are foods however that are more nutrient dense than others and should make up the majority of your diet. I try to plan my main meals around a protein, lots of vegies and some healthy fats. I have dairy, fruit and some grains on occasion. If I have room, I can fit in treats like chocolate, sweets, desserts etc...
Less calories. Less saturated fats with the milk. Sugar has high GI levels which spike blood sugar levels in dramatic ways.0 -
livingleanlivingclean wrote: »Start simple by substituting things. sweeteners instead of sugar. Skimmed instead of semi or whole. Wholemeal instead of white. Oatmeal instead of shreddies/sugary cereals. Bit by bit.
How are sweeteners more clean than sugar? Or skimmed milk compared to semi or whole?
OP - clean is a subjective term. It means different things to different people. Personally I don't think any food is good or bad, there are foods however that are more nutrient dense than others and should make up the majority of your diet. I try to plan my main meals around a protein, lots of vegies and some healthy fats. I have dairy, fruit and some grains on occasion. If I have room, I can fit in treats like chocolate, sweets, desserts etc...
Less calories. Less saturated fats with the milk. Sugar has high GI levels which spike blood sugar levels in dramatic ways.
None of that has anything to do with a foods cleanliness...7 -
Try to eat lean proteins with little fat. Such as tuna chicken pork or high red meat cuts such as sirloin steak. Also eat complex carbs Brown rice oatmeal wheat pasta whole grains. Avoid fruit in the evening sugar contents are to high turns to fat. Also green yogurt is a fantastic snack with some gronala. Hope this helps.0
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Flyeaglesfly8630 wrote: »Try to eat lean proteins with little fat. Such as tuna chicken pork or high red meat cuts such as sirloin steak. Also eat complex carbs Brown rice oatmeal wheat pasta whole grains. Avoid fruit in the evening sugar contents are to high turns to fat. Also green yogurt is a fantastic snack with some gronala. Hope this helps.
How does sugar from fruit, turn to fat, if eaten in a calorie deficit? And why does it matter if you eat it in the evening or any other time of the day?
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All the fruit!
Green yogurt!?!?!?1 -
Because it spikes insulin levels and blood sugar levels. You are going to burn that off through out the day. It is a great snack gives you energy for the day or for a workout. It is also a great source of fiber give some take some.0
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Greek yogurt sorry my t9 on my phone sucks.0
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Clean is relative and frankly a goofy term used for food if you ask me. Focus on getting enough protein and fiber. Eat the right amount of calories. Profit.7
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Flyeaglesfly8630 wrote: »Because it spikes insulin levels and blood sugar levels. You are going to burn that off through out the day. It is a great snack gives you energy for the day or for a workout. It is also a great source of fiber give some take some.
Protein also spikes insulin levels.
You don't store fat in a calorie deficit.
Your body doesn't know what time of day it is, it is burning energy all day and night.5 -
rochelledykes wrote: »I make the wrong food choices easily. I need some ideas on what to eat.
Clean eating has a lot of different definitions (as you've already seen in this thread). Knowing which route you want to take with your clean eating might help steer the discussion.
In general, these are my basic tips for getting started:
Eat foods that you like in portion sizes that fit your goals.
Get plenty of fats & protein for health and satiety.
Get plenty of fruits & veggies for the micronutrients.
Fill in the rest of your calories with carbs, sweets, and treats as you see fit.
There are no foods that you absolutely must avoid (barring medical issues, obviously), just like there are no foods that you must include in your diet. You may find as you progress that there are some foods you don't consider worth the calories, but that's going to be highly individual. Start logging for a few days and make changes as you go along until you find what works best for you.
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OP this is what always happens when someone posts a thread about clean eating. As you can see, it's a controversial term, largely because it means something different to everyone.
If you want to be successful, and don't have a medical reason to restrict certain types of foods, then just set up MFP with your stats and a reasonable goal, and when MFP provides you a calorie target, aim to hit that target while logging accurately. Eat a variety of nutrient dense foods, things like lean protein, vegetables, whole grains, fruits, healthy fats, etc. but don't get caught up on whether something is "clean" or not. Things that are processed can be part of a healthy diet. Even things like ice cream, pizza, and fast food can be consumed in moderation.11 -
WinoGelato wrote: »OP this is what always happens when someone posts a thread about clean eating. As you can see, it's a controversial term, largely because it means something different to everyone.
If you want to be successful, and don't have a medical reason to restrict certain types of foods, then just set up MFP with your stats and a reasonable goal, and when MFP provides you a calorie target, aim to hit that target while logging accurately. Eat a variety of nutrient dense foods, things like lean protein, vegetables, whole grains, fruits, healthy fats, etc. but don't get caught up on whether something is "clean" or not. Things that are processed can be part of a healthy diet. Even things like ice cream, pizza, and fast food can be consumed in moderation.
Well said. Diplomatic and to the point. Thumbs up.4 -
Yes, "clean" foods mean different things to different people. To me, it just means no processed foods. I "kickstarted" my month of April by going to Panera on Saturday - what a joy! One commenter mentioned starting bit by bit - yes, it is a PROCESS. Once you start, you will know how YOU feel after you eat something. You will become aware and familiar what is "clean" - for you. Eggs are clean for me. Beans are always clean. Whole wheat bread is wonderful. I toast it, then put a scrambled egg on top, and then lay a slice of swiss cheese on top - and microwave. Awesome! And for me, I would never use an artificial sweetener other than stevia. If there is no stevia, then one teaspoon of the pure cane sugar. No chemicals. And, no margarine for me, only butter. Lots of salmon, lots of trout It is all what is right for me.You will find what is right for YOU! And I eat FREQUENTLY. That works for me. I "graze", eating small amounts, all day long.0
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Eating clean has nothing to do with fat loss. You can eat all the clean foods you want (whatever that means) and not lose an ounce of fat. Why? Because the only thing required to lose fat is a sustained calorie deficit. To prove my point, a body builder, school teacher, and many others have lost fat eating the majority of their calories from fast foods and candy (not that this is exactly healthy), but it illustrates the point that a calorie deficit is king when it comes to losing weight.
So I suggest that you consume 80% of your foods from nutrient dense whole foods, and the other 20% can be from what you want. This covers your micronutrient and fiber bases, which are crucial to maintaining gut health and general bodily health. If you enjoy eating clean (whatever that really means), go ahead and do it, but realize that it is not required to reach your goals, nor does it mean that a 100% nutrient dense diet is better than one that allows for some sweets, pizza, or other goodies, so long as micronutrients and fiber are met.
http://www.today.com/health/man-loses-56-pounds-after-eating-only-mcdonalds-six-months-2D79329158
http://www.menshealth.com/weight-loss/ice-cream-diet
http://propanefitness.com/how-to-get-lean-on-haribo-cheesecake-pringles-taking-the-piss-with-iifym/
http://www.fitnessmagazine.com/weight-loss/plans/diets/lose-weight-fast-food-diet/
http://nypost.com/2016/01/27/how-i-lost-nearly-100-pounds-eating-pizza/
http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/new-zealand/2016/10/beer-and-pie-diet---the-final-verdict.html
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CeliaGeorge1952 wrote: »Yes, "clean" foods mean different things to different people. To me, it just means no processed foods. I "kickstarted" my month of April by going to Panera on Saturday - what a joy! One commenter mentioned starting bit by bit - yes, it is a PROCESS. Once you start, you will know how YOU feel after you eat something. You will become aware and familiar what is "clean" - for you. Eggs are clean for me. Beans are always clean. Whole wheat bread is wonderful. I toast it, then put a scrambled egg on top, and then lay a slice of swiss cheese on top - and microwave. Awesome! And for me, I would never use an artificial sweetener other than stevia. If there is no stevia, then one teaspoon of the pure cane sugar. No chemicals. And, no margarine for me, only butter. Lots of salmon, lots of trout It is all what is right for me.You will find what is right for YOU! And I eat FREQUENTLY. That works for me. I "graze", eating small amounts, all day long.
So no processed foods, yet Panera is processed, stevia is process food. And water is a chemical... What's your thoughts on food ol H2O? Bad cause it's made of chemicals?3 -
rochelledykes wrote: »I make the wrong food choices easily. I need some ideas on what to eat.
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OP this is what always happens when someone posts a thread about clean eating. As you can see, it's a controversial term, largely because it means something different to everyone.
If you want to be successful, and don't have a medical reason to restrict certain types of foods, then just set up MFP with your stats and a reasonable goal, and when MFP provides you a calorie target, aim to hit that target while logging accurately. Eat a variety of nutrient dense foods, things like lean protein, vegetables, whole grains, fruits, healthy fats, etc. but don't get caught up on whether something is "clean" or not. Things that are processed can be part of a healthy diet. Even things like ice cream, pizza, and fast food can be consumed in moderation.
Well said. Diplomatic and to the point. Thumbs up.
How is this different to what I suggested the OP do?
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If it didn't exist 100years ago, don't eat it.3
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Start simple by substituting things. sweeteners instead of sugar. Skimmed instead of semi or whole. Wholemeal instead of white. Oatmeal instead of shreddies/sugary cereals. Bit by bit.
I would stick to either whole or 2% milk. Skim has a lot more added sugar to it.
I would also add use the good oils (Coconut, Avocado, Olive Oil) and get rid of Canola/Vegetable oils.0 -
PS: As a little note. Although that particular discussion is no longer available I distinctly remember doing just the opposite in particular mentioning the cons both financial and gender based cons regarding its long term use in high dosages. Bearing in mind high dosages are only for professional athletes and HIV/AIDS patients or burns victims.
So please skip the judgement on something that is widely used to benefit people. You assume that anything you know nothing about is something to fear. Well done on being human. The cure is to not judge something until you understand it better or avoid sparking a debate and talking of irony on other related medical topics when you yourself have no contribution to make in said debate.0 -
marge080808 wrote: »Start simple by substituting things. sweeteners instead of sugar. Skimmed instead of semi or whole. Wholemeal instead of white. Oatmeal instead of shreddies/sugary cereals. Bit by bit.
I would stick to either whole or 2% milk. Skim has a lot more added sugar to it.
I would also add use the good oils (Coconut, Avocado, Olive Oil) and get rid of Canola/Vegetable oils.
No, no it doesn't. It may have more "sugar" per 100 mL compared to fattier milk, that's because they've taken the fat out so the ratio of naturally occurring lactose (sugar) is higher.6 -
OP--don't complicate your life (or your eating), "eating clean", "eating healthy" are fads right now. It's all over the media. You'll notice the posters responding that have alot of posts--they have all been hugely successful with weight loss and, or excersise. I'd listen to what they have to say. Start with a calorie deficiet and then branch out from there. Be consistent and you'll be successful Good Luck.2
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rochelledykes wrote: »I make the wrong food choices easily. I need some ideas on what to eat.
Clean eating generally means eating foods prepared from whole or single ingredients, rather than buying premade prepackaged foods. Check out some reduced calorie recipe sites such as:
skinnytaste.com
cookinglight.com
eatingwell.com
Those are just few. A quick internet search will give a more comprehensive list. Check out some recipes that sound good to you and give them a try.0 -
rochelledykes wrote: »I make the wrong food choices easily. I need some ideas on what to eat.
Hi, OP. You've gotten some good advice anyway -- I'd especially look at WinoGelato's post.
As she noted, and as you can see, the term clean tends to confuse people, as some just use it to mean healthy, but many more (and I'd say the usual claimed meaning on MFP) say they mean by it unprocessed only. However, many of those people seem confused by what unprocessed means, as clearly Panera or artificial sugar or protein powder or many other things listed as clean and "unprocessed" by people using the term are processed, even highly processed. Personally, I think many people have gotten the idea that "processed" means high cal/low nutrient junk food or fast food only, but of course that is not the case -- I like to point out that if I dropped all unprocessed food in order to "eat clean" I'd be cutting out things I think are helpful for me, like cottage cheese and plain greek yogurt, olive oil and even olives, smoked salmon, lean ground beef, boneless, skinless chicken breast (okay, I'm not a fan, but I don't think it's bad for you), tofu and tempeh, dried pasta (which can be the base for a really healthy meal), Ezekial bread (if you like it, I'm not that into bread, but it is processed), canned tomatoes and beans, and on and on.
I don't think you are interested in this argument about clean eating, though, or the silliness about claiming all processed foods are bad for you, so I'd just ask what you currently eat and what you see as the struggles.
Tips I'd give -- start with deciding how often you want to eat (I like 3 meals, but it doesn't matter). With some of those meals it might be easy to plan them in advance -- figure out what you like to eat for breakfast or snacks (if you eat breakfast and/or snacks) and plan those. Lunches may be something to plan and make ahead for a week if you are bringing them to work. Dinner often is the one that changes the most. My template for dinner is a source of protein (meat or a meal built around legumes or maybe tempeh or tofu in place of meat), 2-3 vegetables, a starch. Sometimes as a main dish and sides -- roasted chicken with sweet potatoes (roasted), carrots (roasted), and brussels sprouts on the side, for example. Sometimes as a one-pot dish -- rice with a stir fry of lean beef (or tofu), broccoli, onions, peppers, carrots, and some soy sauce and Japanese 7 spice (it's amazing, really). Or shrimp sauteed with whatever vegetables are at hand (let's say zucchini, cauliflower, spinach) in some olive oil, add in some chopped olives or pine nuts and then add to pasta with a bit of feta cheese.
These are just a few of the things I like, but you can start with your own preferences and goals and play around. Maybe log a few things in advance to see how they work. If you give more specifics we can help more.
Welcome!
Oh, and I found it wasn't hard to save some room for a little after dinner extra once I had it down -- ice cream (one serving) or fruit on a day I'm more strapped for calories or a bit of good chocolate or good cheese if I want an alternative to sweet.2 -
Rachie19852014 wrote: »If it didn't exist 100years ago, don't eat it.
Oreos were made 1912. All good!21 -
CeliaGeorge1952 wrote: »Yes, "clean" foods mean different things to different people. To me, it just means no processed foods. I "kickstarted" my month of April by going to Panera on Saturday - what a joy! One commenter mentioned starting bit by bit - yes, it is a PROCESS. Once you start, you will know how YOU feel after you eat something. You will become aware and familiar what is "clean" - for you. Eggs are clean for me. Beans are always clean. Whole wheat bread is wonderful. I toast it, then put a scrambled egg on top, and then lay a slice of swiss cheese on top - and microwave. Awesome! And for me, I would never use an artificial sweetener other than stevia. If there is no stevia, then one teaspoon of the pure cane sugar. No chemicals. And, no margarine for me, only butter. Lots of salmon, lots of trout It is all what is right for me.You will find what is right for YOU! And I eat FREQUENTLY. That works for me. I "graze", eating small amounts, all day long.
Everything is a chemical. Ev..er..y..thing...5 -
rochelledykes wrote: »I make the wrong food choices easily. I need some ideas on what to eat.
What was helpful to me in the beginning was to find a few meals that worked with my goals and come up with a handful of snacks that I could choose from. A meal with whole foods is a lot easier than it sounds, a protein and some veggies is usually my jumping off point. A chicken breast with a side of veggies, or a salad with a protein. I also like brown rice and rice blends (lentils, quinoa), but I have to watch my intakes of those. Greek yogurt, fruit, almonds, cheese all seem to be good snack staples that I can sub in based on my macro needs each day.
I kinda stuck with the same basic meals for awhile to get into a routine. I would play around with substitutions for some calorie heavy favorites - burgers and oven baked seasoned potato wedges are now a regular part of the rotation, and I made a flatbread pizza that was pretty good. Meal planning is a big help to me to keep from making stupid choices that would derail my goals. I do a lot of prep work, like trimming and dividing chicken breasts into portions and freezing them, batch cooking for the week, and relying on frozen veggies. I aim to have about 80% of my food intake per day be whole foods, and usually am able to exceed that. Having a goal helps.
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