Organic Apple Cider Vinegar...Myth or Legend?
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Thanks @anvilhead2 maybe I should have just asked for relative links or just not posted. I thought this community was here to help. I appreciate the links I went into them. It has certainly been discussed before. I am relatively new to the MFP and boards soooo..... I guess I am just p.... everyone off by trying to interact.
Like everyone has said, don't take it personally. I returned to MFP in January of 2016 after a 3 year hiatus and my first comment to a post about sugar addiction raised the roof. Learned my lesson quickly about doing credible research. Lurk the forums here and you will find common threads about what works and what doesn't. Mainly, you will learn there are no gimmicks, secret formulas, cleanses, etc. that will make you lose weight. Look at the success stories to see what has worked for people. Of course, weight loss isn't everyone's goal on here so you also find useful information about exercise, weight gain, etc.
As to ACV, I tried it for acid reflux because I read somewhere it helps and thought I was going to die. What worked was losing lots of weight.4 -
I only click on the ACV threads any more because sometimes there is food porn and sometimes there are really good recipes posted.
And I found out that ACV is really good for killing gnats.7 -
I made this a few days ago with ACV, great on waffles.
http://www.simplyrecipes.com/recipes/apple_butter/1 -
Work for what? There's a million sites out there touting it as the new and improved Dr. Smith's Snake Oil - Good for What Ails You. It has a lot of uses in food and cleaning, but it's just ... vinegar
Thats my question? Its being marketed for a ton of uses and I am asking for your experience, if any...
1) The mild acid in it has been helpful for some people to remove things like warts and skin tags from the skin.
2) Some have found it helps with acid reflux, others found it made their reflux worse
3) There is some correlation with vinegar (all vinegar, not just ACV) helping diabetics regulate blood sugar. No definitive proof but enough correlation that further study is being done.
All other "medicinal" uses are myth. Cooking and cleaning uses are not myth.1 -
What is ACV good for? (Uses validated and proven by MFP members)
1. Dilute to use as hair rinse (makes it soft and shiny)
2. Remove shoe polish before reapplying (keeps the leather nice and supple)
3. Help with acid reflux if caused by TOO little acidity in the stomach. If it's caused by too much acidity, ACV will make you wish you'd died.
4. Kill gnats (put in glass, put cling wrap over, poke holes in, watch gnats drown because of their own gluttony)
5. Makes a good salad dressing (Bonus points when it includes olive oil and fresh mint... go ahead and try it!)
6. Seriously delicious pulled pork (haven't yet tried, but with the amount of times it's been mentioned... yeah it's on my to do list)
What is ACV not good for?
1. Weight loss
2. World peace
3. Weight loss
4. Creating dating opportunities
5. Weight loss
6. Eternal youth
7. Weight loss
8. You get the point
Warnings about drinking ACV undiluted
1. Can damage the tooth enamel
2. Can damage the esophagus (or really... the entire way down to the stomach)
So please be careful about drinking that stuff.11 -
Oh my, I'm glad I ran into this thread. Now I know where not to go for help and encouragement. I was doing a search on liver health issues and this thread came up. I have a lot of scary autoimmune things going on so I've been researching everything and anything. I also have heard lots of different things about ACV. Here's some info from WebMD http://www.webmd.com/diet/apple-cider-vinegar-and-your-health Maybe try some autoimmune forums for real experiences with taking ACV. People there are very friendly and helpful. On Facebook, search for hypothyroid mom. She has a very big following and touches on all types of health issues including weight loss. Mostly everyone is helpful and encouraging. I research everything to death but, like you, hearing from people who have actually experienced whatever you're researching is very helpful so I get why you asked the question. Good luck and I hope you find the answers you are looking for.1
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VintageFeline wrote: »It's not only about this question being asked nearly every day but it's usually on the first or second page of the forum, either in this section or the Food one.
Now if you're entirely new to forums, which would be rare these days, then I can see not looking through a couple of pages but otherwise, not doing it does make regulars kind of crabby. It's not personal when people internet roll their eyes. It's about the perpetuation of the myth more than anything else.
I guess I am one of the rare ones you mention. That's the problem, I am learning, but few people will have the patience or will to help anyone these days/2 -
VintageFeline wrote: »It's not only about this question being asked nearly every day but it's usually on the first or second page of the forum, either in this section or the Food one.
Now if you're entirely new to forums, which would be rare these days, then I can see not looking through a couple of pages but otherwise, not doing it does make regulars kind of crabby. It's not personal when people internet roll their eyes. It's about the perpetuation of the myth more than anything else.
I guess I am one of the rare ones you mention. That's the problem, I am learning, but few people will have the patience or will to help anyone these days/
Google will. :flowerforyou:2 -
Chef_Barbell wrote: »VintageFeline wrote: »It's not only about this question being asked nearly every day but it's usually on the first or second page of the forum, either in this section or the Food one.
Now if you're entirely new to forums, which would be rare these days, then I can see not looking through a couple of pages but otherwise, not doing it does make regulars kind of crabby. It's not personal when people internet roll their eyes. It's about the perpetuation of the myth more than anything else.
I guess I am one of the rare ones you mention. That's the problem, I am learning, but few people will have the patience or will to help anyone these days/
Google will. :flowerforyou:
OMG that was funny, awesome. What is this GOOGLE thing you speak of - LOL!3 -
I use it in my signature BBQ sauce - really brings out the flavor in pork.3
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It kind of won the First Search Engine War, devouring such contenders as Hotbot, Lycos, and Webcrawler. Others have risen to challenge. To date, none have succeeded.4
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I clean with vinegar. Great for getting rid of ants. Also great for making sweet pickles.1
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Oh my, I'm glad I ran into this thread. Now I know where not to go for help and encouragement. I was doing a search on liver health issues and this thread came up. I have a lot of scary autoimmune things going on so I've been researching everything and anything. I also have heard lots of different things about ACV. Here's some info from WebMD http://www.webmd.com/diet/apple-cider-vinegar-and-your-health Maybe try some autoimmune forums for real experiences with taking ACV. People there are very friendly and helpful. On Facebook, search for hypothyroid mom. She has a very big following and touches on all types of health issues including weight loss. Mostly everyone is helpful and encouraging. I research everything to death but, like you, hearing from people who have actually experienced whatever you're researching is very helpful so I get why you asked the question. Good luck and I hope you find the answers you are looking for.
ACV threads pop up several times a week and in the 3 years I have been on MFP I have yet to see anyone offer actual proof that it works for more than a couple of things, mostly topical. What is wrong with saving the OP a bunch of time?
The question was "Organic Apple Cider Vinegar . . .Myth or Legend?" The answer is myth.2 -
Oh my, I'm glad I ran into this thread. Now I know where not to go for help and encouragement. I was doing a search on liver health issues and this thread came up. I have a lot of scary autoimmune things going on so I've been researching everything and anything. I also have heard lots of different things about ACV. Here's some info from WebMD http://www.webmd.com/diet/apple-cider-vinegar-and-your-health Maybe try some autoimmune forums for real experiences with taking ACV. People there are very friendly and helpful. On Facebook, search for hypothyroid mom. She has a very big following and touches on all types of health issues including weight loss. Mostly everyone is helpful and encouraging. I research everything to death but, like you, hearing from people who have actually experienced whatever you're researching is very helpful so I get why you asked the question. Good luck and I hope you find the answers you are looking for.
ACV threads pop up several times a week and in the 3 years I have been on MFP I have yet to see anyone offer actual proof that it works for more than a couple of things, mostly topical. What is wrong with saving the OP a bunch of time?
The question was "Organic Apple Cider Vinegar . . .Myth or Legend?" The answer is myth.
Saving time and being honest is great, but a lot of responses on threads like these do have a condescending tone of "OMG, can you BELIEVE that someone is asking that AGAIN?", like they're offended or scornful that the topic has come up again. Of course there are going to be newbies asking the same questions again and again; they're new , looking for info, and have probably seen various internet articles promoting ACV (or grapefruit or no-sugar or whatever).3 -
@earlnabby I have had success with fruit flies, dunno about knats0
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It worked on the gnats too. I get gnats in Spring, fruit flies in Summer and tried it on both.0 -
You might find this podcast informative/entertaining on the subject of the health benefits of vinegar.
http://maximumfun.org/sawbones/sawbones-vinegar0 -
It worked on the gnats too. I get gnats in Spring, fruit flies in Summer and tried it on both.
So there IS a purpose to all these ACV threads?
I often post either my hot bacon dressing recipe (for spinach salad) or my gr-grandma's cooked salad dressing (perfect for making potato and pasta salad as well as deviled eggs. Less fatty than mayo and MUCH better than miracle Whip)3 -
johnnylew , try posting this: "CICO: Myth or Legend?"1
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It can definitely help with that reflux..
It's my go to main salad dressing ingredient.1 -
Again with the apple cider vinegar? Lol.0
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Really, the only claim that is actually backed by studies and science is that it can somewhat lower blood glucose when eaten before a meal...similar to a glass of wine.
I've personally found it beneficial to ease cramping when a charlie horse comes on.3 -
Marketing. Just like they did with hoodia, acai berry, raspberry ketones, green tea, etc. And in a few years, it will recycle again.Work for what? There's a million sites out there touting it as the new and improved Dr. Smith's Snake Oil - Good for What Ails You. It has a lot of uses in food and cleaning, but it's just ... vinegar
Thats my question? Its being marketed for a ton of uses and I am asking for your experience, if any...
There are some health advantages for the above, but overall if your macro/micro nutrients are in check and you're not consuming more calories than you need to, then you should be just fine.
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cwolfman13 wrote: »Really, the only claim that is actually backed by studies and science is that it can somewhat lower blood glucose when eaten before a meal...similar to a glass of wine.
I've personally found it beneficial to ease cramping when a charlie horse comes on.
So, ACV or a glass of wine. I know which one I'm choosing.7 -
It lowers your blood glucose level so it is taken for that reason by many people with type 2 diabetes. Certain diabetes doctors recommend it.0
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mgibbons22 wrote: »johnnylew , try posting this: "CICO: Myth or Legend?"
No way @mgibbons22 I learned my lesson. Although it is totally a legend in my book
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Tacklewasher wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »Really, the only claim that is actually backed by studies and science is that it can somewhat lower blood glucose when eaten before a meal...similar to a glass of wine.
I've personally found it beneficial to ease cramping when a charlie horse comes on.
So, ACV or a glass of wine. I know which one I'm choosing.
Well. A serving of ACV is 1 T, which has 0 calories, sooooo...1 -
kshama2001 wrote: »Tacklewasher wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »Really, the only claim that is actually backed by studies and science is that it can somewhat lower blood glucose when eaten before a meal...similar to a glass of wine.
I've personally found it beneficial to ease cramping when a charlie horse comes on.
So, ACV or a glass of wine. I know which one I'm choosing.
Well. A serving of ACV is 1 T, which has 0 calories, sooooo...
And 12? calories in a tablespoon of wine.0
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