Hot HIIT
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CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »
toning is what happens when you lose fat over existing muscle hence you get a "toned" look. you cant tone muscle.and toning+cardio does not =HIIT.just because you havent experienced heat exhaustion doesnt mean it cant/wont happen.as for the original question no one can give you an exact answer because its going to vary by person.
not to mention exercising at heat that high for 60 min could lead to hyperthermia as well.which is why when its hotter than hades outside they tell people to limit their exposure to the heat and limit their activities. But hey if you want to risk it then that is your choice.
I know what toning means thanks. Please do your research before making false statements like "could lead to hypothermia". There have been many studies conducted and there is no harm to working out in a hot room.
I have done research and hperthermia and hypothermia are two different things.you can overheat working out in a hot room and end up with hyperthermia,its the same as if you were to work out outside in 90-100 degree whether.what studies are you reading? do you have a link?
Good luck. I think she rage-quit her own thread already.4 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »
toning is what happens when you lose fat over existing muscle hence you get a "toned" look. you cant tone muscle.and toning+cardio does not =HIIT.just because you havent experienced heat exhaustion doesnt mean it cant/wont happen.as for the original question no one can give you an exact answer because its going to vary by person.
not to mention exercising at heat that high for 60 min could lead to hyperthermia as well.which is why when its hotter than hades outside they tell people to limit their exposure to the heat and limit their activities. But hey if you want to risk it then that is your choice.
I know what toning means thanks. Please do your research before making false statements like "could lead to hypothermia". There have been many studies conducted and there is no harm to working out in a hot room.
I have done research and hperthermia and hypothermia are two different things.you can overheat working out in a hot room and end up with hyperthermia,its the same as if you were to work out outside in 90-100 degree whether.what studies are you reading? do you have a link?
Good luck. I think she rage-quit her own thread already.
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sounds super dangerous and ineffective1
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quiksylver296 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »
toning is what happens when you lose fat over existing muscle hence you get a "toned" look. you cant tone muscle.and toning+cardio does not =HIIT.just because you havent experienced heat exhaustion doesnt mean it cant/wont happen.as for the original question no one can give you an exact answer because its going to vary by person.
not to mention exercising at heat that high for 60 min could lead to hyperthermia as well.which is why when its hotter than hades outside they tell people to limit their exposure to the heat and limit their activities. But hey if you want to risk it then that is your choice.
I know what toning means thanks. Please do your research before making false statements like "could lead to hypothermia". There have been many studies conducted and there is no harm to working out in a hot room.
She said hyperthermia, not hypothermia. If you're gonna accuse someone of false statements, probably ought to get your own statement correct.
I would like to see one of those studies. Can you provide a link?
On my phone. Simple typo. You can search for articles posted on Shape Magazine and Menshealth.
Those are not scientific studies. You made the claim, I didn't. I call baloney.
No one cares. Bye.
You're being given a lot of good information and advice. From people who aren't trying to sell you anything. A lot of people have gone down the road you're on and wound up disappointed, they're trying to save you the same frustration. You can benefit from other peoples' wisdom or you can choose not to, but there's really no point in getting all defensive and attacking well-meaning people who are taking time of of their day to try and help strangers.
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rileysowner wrote: »Hello, can anyone tell me how many calories are burned doing Hot HIIT? I've need doing the high interval training for a few weeks now. 60 mins each session.
Thanks!
The same amount with normal temperature HIIT. Frankly, if you can do 60 minutes it is not HIIT, it is just Interval training.
And likely fewer than with interval training in a normal temp room. The increased temp will cause 2 things: 1) cannot push as hard due to effects of thermal stress or 2) in order to deal with thermal stress, must include lower-intensity breaks in class which will burn fewer calories.
The whole concept is full of more BS than a cowfield 1 hour after feeding time. I usually just let this stuff go, but the hothiit website actually made me angry. Even by the low standards of most fitness "studios" this one is particularly cynical and duplicitous. Most of time my attitude is "hey, if you're stupid enough to give people like this your money, you deserve to be fleeced", but sometimes I just get so tired of seeing my profession dragged through the sewer that these places represent.
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Let's be more positive here....This MFP is supposed to be encouraging and a learning platform. No need to attack someone for asking a question. If you have concerns with someone's workout, just state your advice and leave the negative opinion out of it. It's up to the person to take or not take the advice.
As for calories burned during your HIIT...Maybe get yourself a fitbit of something similar. Use it to track your heart rate to get a more accurate idea of the calories you personally burn during the workout.5 -
I've never heard of Hot HIIT but it sounds very similar to classes that are very popular here. I've never thought of them as necessary a detox. Hot pilates, barefoot bootcamp, etc., usually pretty crowded. People just tend to modify if they are struggling just like in a normal temperature class. As for estimating calories I've always worn a monitor but the difference in calories was basically the same as non heated. Sometimes it just feels good to sweat, just my opinion.1
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Let's be more positive here....This MFP is supposed to be encouraging and a learning platform. No need to attack someone for asking a question. If you have concerns with someone's workout, just state your advice and leave the negative opinion out of it. It's up to the person to take or not take the advice.
As for calories burned during your HIIT...Maybe get yourself a fitbit of something similar. Use it to track your heart rate to get a more accurate idea of the calories you personally burn during the workout.
Heart rate monitors are essentially useless for tracking calories for anything other than steady state cardio.
Courtesy of @Azdak:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/blog/Azdak/view/the-real-facts-about-hrms-and-calories-what-you-need-to-know-before-purchasing-an-hrm-or-using-one-214724 -
I feel like its a cool idea to do conditioning training in a hot environment "done it plenty myself". However that being said when I do HIIT after about 30 minutes I'm gassed and sometimes even less. Do you guys workout at 90% maximum intensity the entire time? if so my hats off to you. Don't listen to neigh sayers about heated environment training, But if you like the extreme's in training cold weather training can be challenging as well, a new beast to concur so to speak.
But on to the original question, I dont think a man / woman alive could tell you how much you are burning there is just so much variables with maximum intensity training, plus the afterburn effect. Much different then using telemetry from steady state cardio with Heart Rate and distance / weight / time equations.1 -
The body burns more calories staying warm than staying cool.
You'd be better off doing a Rocky and getting in a freezer room to do your HIIT..3 -
The body burns more calories staying warm than staying cool.
You'd be better off doing a Rocky and getting in a freezer room to do your HIIT..
This is true if you are goal-ing for calorie burn for sure! cold winters in Kansas back in the day was were I got my biggest burn -20 weather and Sh** haha.
But for physically endurance training, to help acclimate yourself pre-deployment or if your doing a mudder in a hot summer day it would help to train in higher temperatures, just stay hydrated "take a knee and drink water!"1 -
Let's be more positive here....This MFP is supposed to be encouraging and a learning platform. No need to attack someone for asking a question. If you have concerns with someone's workout, just state your advice and leave the negative opinion out of it. It's up to the person to take or not take the advice.
As for calories burned during your HIIT...Maybe get yourself a fitbit of something similar. Use it to track your heart rate to get a more accurate idea of the calories you personally burn during the workout.
@old_me
People aren't attacking the person - they are attacking a really daft workout idea.
It's not HIIT and deliberately over-heating is a really silly idea, guaranteed to produce an ineffective workout.
Blind encouragement of a bad idea isn't at all supportive or helpful.
By the way... Neither a FitBit and certainly not a HRM would be at all suitable for guessing calorie burns.
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OP - as for your calorie estimate question would suggest just log duration as circuit training or calisthenics - both wild estimates but that is as good as it's going to get.
Over the course of a week the accuracy of one workout isn't really that important.2 -
OP - as for your calorie estimate question would suggest just log duration as circuit training or calisthenics - both wild estimates but that is as good as it's going to get.
Over the course of a week the accuracy of one workout isn't really that important.
Good points OP should definitely reference!1 -
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TeinyWinehouse wrote: »I would die if I did 60 minutes of HIIT in extreme heat
There's no point to it other than marketing. It's one of the dumbest exercise ideas ever conceived.5 -
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jpoehls9025 wrote: »The body burns more calories staying warm than staying cool.
You'd be better off doing a Rocky and getting in a freezer room to do your HIIT..
This is true if you are goal-ing for calorie burn for sure! cold winters in Kansas back in the day was were I got my biggest burn -20 weather and Sh** haha.
But for physically endurance training, to help acclimate yourself pre-deployment or if your doing a mudder in a hot summer day it would help to train in higher temperatures, just stay hydrated "take a knee and drink water!"
Agree as stated it was intended for max calorie burn which seems to be the OP target.0 -
I've never heard of Hot HIIT but it sounds very similar to classes that are very popular here. I've never thought of them as necessary a detox. Hot pilates, barefoot bootcamp, etc., usually pretty crowded. People just tend to modify if they are struggling just like in a normal temperature class. As for estimating calories I've always worn a monitor but the difference in calories was basically the same as non heated. Sometimes it just feels good to sweat, just my opinion.
Yes couldn't agree more. Hot studios are popular in NYC. Thanks.0 -
jpoehls9025 wrote: »I feel like its a cool idea to do conditioning training in a hot environment "done it plenty myself". However that being said when I do HIIT after about 30 minutes I'm gassed and sometimes even less. Do you guys workout at 90% maximum intensity the entire time? if so my hats off to you. Don't listen to neigh sayers about heated environment training, But if you like the extreme's in training cold weather training can be challenging as well, a new beast to concur so to speak.
But on to the original question, I dont think a man / woman alive could tell you how much you are burning there is just so much variables with maximum intensity training, plus the afterburn effect. Much different then using telemetry from steady state cardio with Heart Rate and distance / weight / time equations.
There's a warm up and cool down of course. You work hard for 20 seconds and rest for 10. It's intense but that's the point.0 -
quiksylver296 wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »
toning is what happens when you lose fat over existing muscle hence you get a "toned" look. you cant tone muscle.and toning+cardio does not =HIIT.just because you havent experienced heat exhaustion doesnt mean it cant/wont happen.as for the original question no one can give you an exact answer because its going to vary by person.
not to mention exercising at heat that high for 60 min could lead to hyperthermia as well.which is why when its hotter than hades outside they tell people to limit their exposure to the heat and limit their activities. But hey if you want to risk it then that is your choice.
I know what toning means thanks. Please do your research before making false statements like "could lead to hypothermia". There have been many studies conducted and there is no harm to working out in a hot room.
She said hyperthermia, not hypothermia. If you're gonna accuse someone of false statements, probably ought to get your own statement correct.
I would like to see one of those studies. Can you provide a link?
On my phone. Simple typo. You can search for articles posted on Shape Magazine and Menshealth.
you did not seriously cite shape magazine and menshealth as research????????13 -
Muscleflex79 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »
toning is what happens when you lose fat over existing muscle hence you get a "toned" look. you cant tone muscle.and toning+cardio does not =HIIT.just because you havent experienced heat exhaustion doesnt mean it cant/wont happen.as for the original question no one can give you an exact answer because its going to vary by person.
not to mention exercising at heat that high for 60 min could lead to hyperthermia as well.which is why when its hotter than hades outside they tell people to limit their exposure to the heat and limit their activities. But hey if you want to risk it then that is your choice.
I know what toning means thanks. Please do your research before making false statements like "could lead to hypothermia". There have been many studies conducted and there is no harm to working out in a hot room.
She said hyperthermia, not hypothermia. If you're gonna accuse someone of false statements, probably ought to get your own statement correct.
I would like to see one of those studies. Can you provide a link?
On my phone. Simple typo. You can search for articles posted on Shape Magazine and Menshealth.
you did not seriously cite shape magazine and menshealth as research????????
Calm down3 -
Did the op get to meet bikram?0
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jpoehls9025 wrote: »I feel like its a cool idea to do conditioning training in a hot environment "done it plenty myself". However that being said when I do HIIT after about 30 minutes I'm gassed and sometimes even less. Do you guys workout at 90% maximum intensity the entire time? if so my hats off to you. Don't listen to neigh sayers about heated environment training, But if you like the extreme's in training cold weather training can be challenging as well, a new beast to concur so to speak.
But on to the original question, I dont think a man / woman alive could tell you how much you are burning there is just so much variables with maximum intensity training, plus the afterburn effect. Much different then using telemetry from steady state cardio with Heart Rate and distance / weight / time equations.
There's a warm up and cool down of course. You work hard for 20 seconds and rest for 10. It's intense but that's the point.
20 on, 10 off for 8 rounds would be a tabata set. The 20 seconds is supposed to be all out, and tabata is usually considered a HIIT type workout. Usually you do not do them for 30 minutes or so from what I have seen.
As far as everything goes, I don't think the heat is going to make a difference in the amount of calories burned. I think it might help somewhat with keeping muscles looser since they should stay warmer, but I don't know if sweating to cool down is going to burn more calories. It seems like trying to heat up to stay warm would create more of a burn.1 -
bigmuneymfp wrote: »Muscleflex79 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »
toning is what happens when you lose fat over existing muscle hence you get a "toned" look. you cant tone muscle.and toning+cardio does not =HIIT.just because you havent experienced heat exhaustion doesnt mean it cant/wont happen.as for the original question no one can give you an exact answer because its going to vary by person.
not to mention exercising at heat that high for 60 min could lead to hyperthermia as well.which is why when its hotter than hades outside they tell people to limit their exposure to the heat and limit their activities. But hey if you want to risk it then that is your choice.
I know what toning means thanks. Please do your research before making false statements like "could lead to hypothermia". There have been many studies conducted and there is no harm to working out in a hot room.
She said hyperthermia, not hypothermia. If you're gonna accuse someone of false statements, probably ought to get your own statement correct.
I would like to see one of those studies. Can you provide a link?
On my phone. Simple typo. You can search for articles posted on Shape Magazine and Menshealth.
you did not seriously cite shape magazine and menshealth as research????????
Calm down
Seriously why is everyone wound up so tightly? It's quite entertaining lol4 -
:laugh:quiksylver296 wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »
toning is what happens when you lose fat over existing muscle hence you get a "toned" look. you cant tone muscle.and toning+cardio does not =HIIT.just because you havent experienced heat exhaustion doesnt mean it cant/wont happen.as for the original question no one can give you an exact answer because its going to vary by person.
not to mention exercising at heat that high for 60 min could lead to hyperthermia as well.which is why when its hotter than hades outside they tell people to limit their exposure to the heat and limit their activities. But hey if you want to risk it then that is your choice.
I know what toning means thanks. Please do your research before making false statements like "could lead to hypothermia". There have been many studies conducted and there is no harm to working out in a hot room.
I have done research and hperthermia and hypothermia are two different things.you can overheat working out in a hot room and end up with hyperthermia,its the same as if you were to work out outside in 90-100 degree whether.what studies are you reading? do you have a link?
Good luck. I think she rage-quit her own thread already.
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jpoehls9025 wrote: »I feel like its a cool idea to do conditioning training in a hot environment "done it plenty myself". However that being said when I do HIIT after about 30 minutes I'm gassed and sometimes even less. Do you guys workout at 90% maximum intensity the entire time? if so my hats off to you. Don't listen to neigh sayers about heated environment training, But if you like the extreme's in training cold weather training can be challenging as well, a new beast to concur so to speak.
But on to the original question, I dont think a man / woman alive could tell you how much you are burning there is just so much variables with maximum intensity training, plus the afterburn effect. Much different then using telemetry from steady state cardio with Heart Rate and distance / weight / time equations.
There's a warm up and cool down of course. You work hard for 20 seconds and rest for 10. It's intense but that's the point.
20 on, 10 off for 8 rounds would be a tabata set. The 20 seconds is supposed to be all out, and tabata is usually considered a HIIT type workout. Usually you do not do them for 30 minutes or so from what I have seen.
As far as everything goes, I don't think the heat is going to make a difference in the amount of calories burned. I think it might help somewhat with keeping muscles looser since they should stay warmer, but I don't know if sweating to cool down is going to burn more calories. It seems like trying to heat up to stay warm would create more of a burn.
I did a tabata style workout this morning, 20 sec sprint 10 sec walk for 8 rounds was one of the sets and those 5 mins just about killed me and I was outside in pretty cool temperatures (had several other *fun* sets such as squats, kettlebell swings and push ups before hand). Couldn't imagine being able to keep that level of intensity up a. for 60 mins (actually had 20 minutes of interval work with 5 min warm up/cool down), and b. in a hot atmosphere, I was sweating buckets at 8C.
eta : Oh and according to my Fitbit, despite putting my all in and being exhausted afterwards I *only* burnt around 165 Calories.0 -
I doubt that it is true HIIT, as HIIT is supposed to be so intense you can only do 15-20 minutes, and thats all you need due to the intensity.
That said, you would not burn more than if in regular room temperature, and less than you would if you were doing it in the cold.3 -
jpoehls9025 wrote: »I feel like its a cool idea to do conditioning training in a hot environment "done it plenty myself". However that being said when I do HIIT after about 30 minutes I'm gassed and sometimes even less. Do you guys workout at 90% maximum intensity the entire time? if so my hats off to you. Don't listen to neigh sayers about heated environment training, But if you like the extreme's in training cold weather training can be challenging as well, a new beast to concur so to speak.
But on to the original question, I dont think a man / woman alive could tell you how much you are burning there is just so much variables with maximum intensity training, plus the afterburn effect. Much different then using telemetry from steady state cardio with Heart Rate and distance / weight / time equations.
There's a warm up and cool down of course. You work hard for 20 seconds and rest for 10. It's intense but that's the point.
20 on, 10 off for 8 rounds would be a tabata set. The 20 seconds is supposed to be all out, and tabata is usually considered a HIIT type workout. Usually you do not do them for 30 minutes or so from what I have seen.
As far as everything goes, I don't think the heat is going to make a difference in the amount of calories burned. I think it might help somewhat with keeping muscles looser since they should stay warmer, but I don't know if sweating to cool down is going to burn more calories. It seems like trying to heat up to stay warm would create more of a burn.
I did a tabata style workout this morning, 20 sec sprint 10 sec walk for 8 rounds was one of the sets and those 5 mins just about killed me and I was outside in pretty cool temperatures (had several other *fun* sets such as squats, kettlebell swings and push ups before hand). Couldn't imagine being able to keep that level of intensity up a. for 60 mins (actually had 20 minutes of interval work with 5 min warm up/cool down), and b. in a hot atmosphere, I was sweating buckets at 8C.
eta : Oh and according to my Fitbit, despite putting my all in and being exhausted afterwards I *only* burnt around 165 Calories.
The class I went to last night included sets of squats, crunches, planks, mountain climbers and burpees. Everyone's max is different. I certainly take knee if I need it.0 -
bigmuneymfp wrote: »Did the op get to meet bikram?
Not yet. But I am interested in doing the teacher training so maybe one day.0
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