Am I the only one who can't lose weight?!
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JasmineDiver22 wrote: »@gamerbabe14
Hmmm, then I'll just cut out all fruits. Literally eat just chicken and drink protein shakes and only drink water, because that's all I freaking eat. I barely eat now. I never eat my full 1200 calories when I log it (so I think) but apparently I'm eating more. I feel like I'm starving myself. So I really don't feel like I'm eating that much. I went from eating 3k+ calories a day and cut that in half. Soooo... there should still be enough difference for me to lose. It's pissing me off.
Why in the world would you cut out fruit??!?! That doesn't make sense.
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WickAndArtoo wrote: »JasmineDiver22 wrote: »@gamerbabe14
Hmmm, then I'll just cut out all fruits. Literally eat just chicken and drink protein shakes and only drink water, because that's all I freaking eat. I barely eat now. I never eat my full 1200 calories when I log it (so I think) but apparently I'm eating more. I feel like I'm starving myself. So I really don't feel like I'm eating that much. I went from eating 3k+ calories a day and cut that in half. Soooo... there should still be enough difference for me to lose. It's pissing me off.
Why in the world would you cut out fruit??!?! That doesn't make sense.
I cut out fruit. It's calorie dense for the satiety. The only reason I had to add some back in was for fiber.0 -
im so confused...iv lost 100 pounds in under a year and im advocating for a scale why am i being quoted so much as if i dunno0
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WickAndArtoo wrote: »JasmineDiver22 wrote: »@gamerbabe14
Hmmm, then I'll just cut out all fruits. Literally eat just chicken and drink protein shakes and only drink water, because that's all I freaking eat. I barely eat now. I never eat my full 1200 calories when I log it (so I think) but apparently I'm eating more. I feel like I'm starving myself. So I really don't feel like I'm eating that much. I went from eating 3k+ calories a day and cut that in half. Soooo... there should still be enough difference for me to lose. It's pissing me off.
Why in the world would you cut out fruit??!?! That doesn't make sense.
I cut out fruit. It's calorie dense for the satiety. The only reason I had to add some back in was for fiber.
I was talking about the OP (not the general mfp group) who is basing decisions off of nothing other than the fact that someone mentioned fruit has calories.
You @bbell1985 choosing to cut out fruit was based on the fact that you noticed that within your properly measured calories fruit filled you up less than something else of similar calories is completely different. We have all made decisions like that (I don't eat bread for this reason, it plain just doesn't make me feel full), but not out of the blue when someone was just trying to explain everything should be logged and measured.
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JaydedMiss wrote: »im so confused...iv lost 100 pounds in under a year and im advocating for a scale why am i being quoted so much as if i dunno
It's me! It's me.. I tagged your name mistakenly when I intended to tag the OP. Thought I fixed it but missed a few spots it seems. ... my apologies..I'm so sorry @JaydedMiss I'm just super spacey today and making crazy little mistakes.. here there and everywhere it seems.2 -
oh haha no all good i just got home and was so confused trying to find what i said to make people think i didnt know XD1
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JaydedMiss wrote: »oh haha no all good i just got home and was so confused trying to find what i said to make people think i didnt know XD
:laugh: Oh and congrats on the weight loss, all the hard work that goes with it, so proud of you! I'm sure you feel so much better and so much more freedom physically too.1 -
Hearts_2015 wrote: »JaydedMiss wrote: »oh haha no all good i just got home and was so confused trying to find what i said to make people think i didnt know XD
:laugh: Oh and congrats on the weight loss, all the hard work that goes with it, so proud of you! I'm sure you feel so much better and so much more freedom physically too.
-shrugs- im sitting at home in bed eating a big cup of tiramasu and its delicious. Eventually ill have to stop eating work food or ill start regaining but >.> yumm3 -
OP, I'm impressed by your attitude! A lot of people get all huffy and just insist there's something wrong with them even though they're doing everything right. I think you're going to do an amazing job!
The biggest key for me has been figuring out what works FOR ME. For most of my adult life I have felt that there are right ways to eat and wrong ways to eat: right would be "paleo" or "low carb," wrong would be "artificial sweeteners" or "junk food." Well lately I've been realizing, I don't do well on a Paleo or a low-carb diet. And having sugar-free pudding, or a pint of Halo Top, or a (weighed) serving of Cheetos every now and then, just gives me that extra boost in my step and I don't feel deprived. Everybody has something different that works for them. Don't let the latest magazine headline or wacky Pinterest tip sway you (in fact, I would just stay away from Pinterest as far as health and fitness recommendations, I've seen so much baloney on there it makes my head spin).
Eat what you like, eat the right amount of it, at the right times that work for you, and walk when you can (or find something else you enjoy doing).
You will figure out a way to succeed, I know it!3 -
@EmbeeKay aww thanks!! Yeah I'm defintly trying to stay positive through this. I've failed and given up so many times. But at this point quitting is not an option for me. I weigh more than I ever have. So I need to do this for myself. I hate everything about my body. So I defintly need to change!! And yes I am trying to figure what works best for me for sure. You guys are all awesome and I've learned so much just in the short time I've written in the community. So thank you!2
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OP--with an attitude like yours, you'll be a success. I've been here 4 yrs and am still learning. There are awesome posters on here. Good luck.5
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OP I just sent you a friend request. I'm 5'2" with a desk job and also over 100 lbs to lose. However, I eat between 1300 - 1500 a day. I use a food scale and log everything. Check out my diary and you can see what I'm eating. Yes, I eat fruit! I highly recommend a food scale and logging everything you eat.2
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Maybe you have metabolic damage0
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For me, the first month has been a huge learning curve and I have only lost 2 lbs. It has taken me this long to really understand what is going in my mouth, weighing solid foods instead of measuring, using the calorie database correctly, how to handle going out to eat at restaurants, including EVERYTHING on my daily log, getting into an exercising routine, monitoring my wine intake just to name a few. I am hoping by correcting these mistakes will help me in my next month. Although I lost very little, it beats gaining weight! Keep reading these community boards, they are a huge help and I learn something everyday.2
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@cabellosdefuego what does that mean?0
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JasmineDiver22 wrote: »@cabellosdefuego what does that mean?
There is nothing in your posts that suggests you have metabolic damage. That person is ignoring the fairly obvious solution (logging errors) to suggest something rare for which there isn't any evidence.9 -
My scale was $15 lol works great also do log everything including your fruit it can have a lot of calories1
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I'll just say this in regards to your claims. The general interwebz and blogs are very unreliable sources of information.
If OP wants to know more about keto, she should go to the Debate Forum and search for posts on keto. She'll find posts with a thorough discussion of claimed pros and cons vs actual pros and cons to the diet, including discussing some of the points you make here. She'll find posts that reference peer-reviewed controlled studies and discuss the limitations to those studies as well as posts from those that have been on a keto diet long term.
You're right, anything can be said on the internet. Everything is up for debate - even the calories in, calories out is debateable as that model claims that all calories are equal. It seems logical to me to believe that because calories are all different (i.e. carbs, fat, protein, etc) that the body would process them differently. This is what keto addresses. We could debate all day on various dieting issues but the point is that each body handles things differently - keto or not.
And you're right, all I can say is that of my experience - I've lost 24 lbs in 3 months on Keto. The girlfriend has lost 15lbs on keto. Neither of us is super-strict in our diet. There are a bunch of people at her work also doing it and they too have lost (can't quote their stats). I am fairly sedentary with a desk-job and when I'm not doing that I'm sitting at a computer doing school work. I never feel like I'm starving. I cheat and drink on occasion. I eat over my limits. I don't really exercise... and I still lose.
So with all that said, the best thing for OP to do is to make this as scientific as possible. Log everything as accurately as possible and then make small changes to activity/food and see what works for their body.0 -
I think it's definitely worth checking in with your doctor. For example, I recently found out I have (otherwise mild) sleep apnea. My sleep neurologist said that in particular when REM sleep is affected, one could be burning 15% fewer calories than they otherwise normally would. There are a variety of conditions that could make it hard to lose weight. I agree that getting a scale and weighing food is also a good idea, but even so, I think it's worth checking in with a good doctor. Even if you are eating a bit more than you think, if you have an underlying condition that's making it harder, and if it's a treatable condition like sleep apnea, why starve yourself if you don't have to?0
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My 2 cents worth: there is no perfect path, and there is no good or bad food. You're paying attention to your health & wellbeing, and that is a step closer to where you want to be than you were a month ago, right? So good for you!
Food is fuel. Its not good or bad. Our bodies need nutrients, need to feel satisfied - at least I personally do not cope well when I feel hungry! It may take a little trial and error to figure out what foods you should eat to feel satisfied on ~1500 calories a day. I've found that eating more lean meat/veggies helps a lot with that. Good luck, you can do this!JasmineDiver22 wrote: »To anyone saying get a food scale, I already ordered one and never thought or heard of that until you guys. Soooo the arguing can stop about it I'll take everyone's advise. Defintly didn't realize I was doing a *kitten* job and trying to lose weight. I for sure thought that if you totally cut all BAD foods that are bad for the heart you could lose weight if you ate strictly healthy. Which I thought I was doing. But obviously not measuring right. I'm new to this weight loss things so I'm not gonna be perfect. Everyone takes different strides, and learns as we go. So I guess this is a lesson learned and I'll start issuing a scale.
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JasmineDiver22 wrote: »@gamerbabe14
Hmmm, then I'll just cut out all fruits. Literally eat just chicken and drink protein shakes and only drink water, because that's all I freaking eat. I barely eat now. I never eat my full 1200 calories when I log it (so I think) but apparently I'm eating more. I feel like I'm starving myself. So I really don't feel like I'm eating that much. I went from eating 3k+ calories a day and cut that in half. Soooo... there should still be enough difference for me to lose. It's pissing me off.
You don't need to starve yourself to lose weight and you really do want to be eating your fruit and veg, if only for the fibre, vitamins and minerals. If you really are eating <1200 Calories than you'd be losing.
Of course you can measure protein shakes, if you're making them up yourself weigh out a serving of the powder ready to add to your water or milk. Fruit and veg you can also weigh in fact there's very little you can't. Weigh solids and measure liquids it is a pain to start with but soon becomes second nature.0 -
cabellosdefuego wrote: »Maybe you have metabolic damage
A possibility perhaps in some cases, though not the first thought I had in this situation. I believe in this case learning how the process works was the change needed for her to fully understand how better to be prepared.
Metabolic damage was not on my mind in this situation after being part of thread and working with the OP as we have been.
Jasmine's gotten some great tips and has a really positive attitude after learning more on how it all works. Sure anything is possible but there are so many other factors involved here to make changes on before that would be the go to 'diagnosis' do you think? If you've read into the thread more you'll see the changes the OP is willing to make to work on changing her health/habits and wasn't doing before she posted here.
Check out the entire thread and see how it ends or maybe a better way to put it is "begins". ... as Paul Harvey used to say "and now...the rest of the Story."
I remember that part from the radio when my Dad had it on a million years ago so it stuck in my head!0 -
JasmineDiver22 wrote: »@jessiferrrb I'm well over 100 pounds over weight. I'm 5'2. I cut out all carbs except fruits and veggies. I eat chicken eggs and protein shakes and that's literally all I eat. I usually weigh myself 1 time a week but lately I been weighing myself every chance I get while in the bathroom and it's literally the same every time. But I do it at work so I'm fully clothed with shoes and it's in the middle of the day mostly when I weigh myself. I also have a desk job and only average 3k steps a day if I'm lucky, so that could be part of it. I been wondering what I could do for exercise since I have so much to lose I can't do much.
I think my diary is open, take a look back a few months to see what I was eating at 100lb+ overweight. I certainly didn't eat anywhere near as low as 1200 and I ate almost everything I ate before, just in smaller amounts. At 5'2" and 169lb MFP now has my base Calories at 1200 for 1.5lb/week loss, but once activity is included I get nearer 2000 to eat. Don't underestimate the value of simply getting off your bum and taking a walk round the office for a couple of minutes every hour or taking a half hour walk in your lunch break. The extra couple of hundred Calories can be a real deal breaker.2 -
JasmineDiver22 wrote: »@cabellosdefuego what does that mean?
You don't. This is nonsense.
I have hypothyroidism due to thyroid cancer resulting in a total thyroidectomy - had this for 14 years and put on about 70 pounds - not because of hypothyroidism, but because I stopped working out and had no clue how much I was eating. I found MFP in June 2104 and just followed the calorie recommendation and listened to the veterans that had been through this before. I lost 60 pounds in one year.
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JasmineDiver22 wrote: »@Hearts_2015 thanks! I feel so confused on what the heck to do now. Lol. I believe I'm having so much issues because I'm "not weighing foods" condiments or anything, and I'm not active due to a desk job. And average about 3k steps a day if I'm lucky. Not sure what type of exercise I could do with having to lose over 100 pounds. Going to a gym is defintly NOT an option because I'll be judged. So I'd prefer to do at home videos. Possibly P90X. Not sure.
You could start with just walking. I was 270lb when I first stepped foot in a gym, and that's way over 100lb overweight. When I started I could barely manage to walk for 5mins on the treadmill so that's what I did, then I increased distance and speed until eventually I was running. I was still around 100lb overweight when I did my first 5k, took me an hour but I finished. I was over 200lb when I started attending high intensity classes, had to modify near enough every move, 30lb on and I can do almost everything without modding. Again was over 200lb when I started strength training, I managed to lift that 200lb for the first time last week. It's all about small steps and being motivated. I won't say you won't feel self-conscious because I still do during Zumba and I won't say it won't occasionally hurt because just lugging that 200lb+ around used to hurt.1 -
JasmineDiver22 wrote: »@Hearts_2015 thanks! I feel so confused on what the heck to do now. Lol. I believe I'm having so much issues because I'm "not weighing foods" condiments or anything, and I'm not active due to a desk job. And average about 3k steps a day if I'm lucky. Not sure what type of exercise I could do with having to lose over 100 pounds. Going to a gym is defintly NOT an option because I'll be judged. So I'd prefer to do at home videos. Possibly P90X. Not sure.
You won't be judged at the gym (mostly). But you have no control over what people are thinking anyway. Most people I know are encouraging to those who are there to do what they need to do. I've never been to a gym that had only fit people in it. Not to mention that many of the fit people I met there were not when they started. It was why they started in the first place. I used to think the way you do, but then I realized that I was the one prejudging them. At least I could control that right?
Home videos also work, but if you have not been active, I don't recommend starting with P90X. I did that program 7 years ago and regret not getting in better shape before that. Now, after getting back in the game in February, I am in week 10 of P90 (without the X). It will ease you into it and prepare you for P90X later. You don't have to buy one over the other. They now have online version for about $90 that gives you access to everything for a year. [ETA - access to every program Beachbody does]
If you really want to go cheaper yet, I understand there are many options available on YouTube for free.0 -
I so wish we would all remembered to read through the entire thread instead of commenting on it after reading only the OP. But I find I do it too... we get all excited to respond so we post. Then we realize the thread has gone in a different direction and much of what we said has then been shared numerous times... Not sure what the answer is... oh well. :laugh: Not pointing fingers to anyone particular.. just something I noticed more recently.cabellosdefuego wrote: »Maybe you have metabolic damageJasmineDiver22 wrote: »@cabellosdefuego what does that mean?janejellyroll wrote: »JasmineDiver22 wrote: »@cabellosdefuego what does that mean?
There is nothing in your posts that suggests you have metabolic damage. That person is ignoring the fairly obvious solution (logging errors) to suggest something rare for which there isn't any evidence.I think it's definitely worth checking in with your doctor.
I agree that getting a scale and weighing food is also a good idea, but even so, I think it's worth checking in with a good doctor.
I know some members have shared about their flaky doctors that have given them wacky crazy advice. My GP is pretty awesome and knows me quite well, has never fat shamed me as some doctors do. Like that ever works right?! If your Dr. does maybe it's the not the healthiest fit for you. Fat shaming by ANYONE is so unhealthy & so wrong!
My doc & I are focusing on my fitness/health/having fun in life, building my self esteem/self confidence & me not obsessing on the scale. She's great about reminding me how far I've come when I get stuck in thinking I have more to do yet. For me the lbs. drop without much effort when I stay focused on staying positive in life and building my confidence and remembering the outside of me is not who I am, it's simply the body we currently live in.
So yes, I'm all for getting your doc on board and teaming up and having them as a positive force in your life. Also insurance plans, some, have got some great incentive programs for wellness now. If you drop some weight, alter your BMI, a number of things, you can receive reward points. Get a free gym membership, earn $'s for groceries, OTC medicine or baby/toddler needs such as diapers etc. I know some also offer individual training... definitely worth checking in with your insurance company or employer to see what they offer. Wellness seems to be the thing now with insurance...which is great.
Better they help ppl get healthy & stay healthy as the costs far less for the insurance co than waiting until someone becomes seriously!
Jasmine... this'll happen for you, please try not to hate your body, you're a beautiful Girl both inside and out (as I've gotten to know you more!)
We would never say to a friend.. 'you're ugly & hate you because of your weight!'.
Why do we do that to ourselves, hate on our bodies when we're trying to get healthier?
We can all be kinder to ourselves.. we are SO WORTH IT!
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@Hearts_2015 thank you!1
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OP you sound like me. I'm 5'4" and started at 295 lbs. I have been working at this for about 6-8 months now (only using MFP regularly since December) and have lost 75 lbs. When I started my calorie goal was about 1600 because I was in a pretty active job and heavy. Now it's down to just over 1300 because I'm in a sedentary job (most days i'm lucky to get 2500 steps before work ends) and lighter. I eat the same things that I did before just smaller portions and make choices. If I want pizza I know that lunch is a going to be smaller. I have had trouble finding ways to exercise as well but I'm getting better. Walking is the biggest thing. That and playing wii fit with my kids. Sounds silly but it does get me moving and gets my heart rate up. Just remember to be honest with yourself about everything you eat. Logging it makes you acknowledge it and for me that's a big thing.2
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