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annaclaireblack
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I went 3000 calories over my maintenance calories on Sunday and no weight gain. Today I went 5-6000 calories over. Will I gain weight??? Does anybody else have binges that big? I feel so bad.
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Whether you gain weight or not depends on how much of a deficit you're on the rest of the time and how much of this food energy that you're eating your body is managing to process and absorb.
Having said that, the situation you describe does not sound particularly healthy.
I would be much more concerned with what is happening that is making you go 3 and 6K over MAINTENANCE than with whether you're going to lose weight or not.
By the sounds of it, this is something that you should probably address at this time in order to move forward!
There is a lot of experience on the boards from people who have dealt with binge eating disorder.
Do note that while (substantial) overeating is something quite a few of us have done at some point of time or another, binge eating disorder has specific criteria that have to be met to be called such. And, of course, options to treat the issue do exist!
Feeling bad is useless unless you plan to use the feeling as an impetus to change!
Take care.25 -
Only way to know is to wait and see.
Log it and move on, don't beat yourself up - it's done and over. Log it as accurately as you can - it helps to do that.
I've had some pretty high days. I have a journal on my computer in Excel where I log all my calories, my exercise, and then I make notes if there was a really high day. It helps to pinpoint what I was thinking just before the binge. Was I trying to restrict too much right before that? Was there some big emotional event? How can I change that behavior.
Why do you think you had these two binge days? I find I need to keep my calories at a certain level, if I try to eat too little it WILL lead to a binge.
((hug)) You're okay. Move on.7 -
Rather than worrying about gaining weight, I would look into what triggered the binges (overrestriction of calories/foods, stress, etc.) and find ways to prevent them from happening again (upping calories, moderation of foods, even professional help if it's a regular thing).9
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Oh yeah, I definitely do, and in my opinion it's important to allow yourself to have those days where you just lose control. The only thing you can do at after is pick yourself up, brush yourself off, and keep moving forward like nothing happened. Make yourself do it even if you don't want to, because in the end it's about discipline over motivation.4
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annaclaireblack wrote: »I went 3000 calories over my maintenance calories on Sunday and no weight gain. Today I went 5-6000 calories over. Will I gain weight??? Does anybody else have binges that big? I feel so bad.
Yes, you have been a very bad girl, find someone to punish you.
My binges are under 2k over goal.
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Just like losing weight, gaining doesn't happen overnight.
You still logged, which is good - many people just say "oh, heck with it" and stop logging.
I'm going to agree with the previous posters that suggested you determine WHY you ate so much. Perhaps you need to raise your calorie goal or play with your macros. If it's an emotional thing, determine the trigger and see what you can do to prevent that in the future. Talk to a professional if you need to - it can be a VERY helpful thing
Best wishes.
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Yes that was bad however, get right back on the bandwagon don't beat yourself up. I binge every once in awhile1
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I'm just curious what exactly you ate that was that much calorie.
You are like many who binge eat, you simply feel bad at the wrong time! Next time you should feel bad immediately when food is brought in front of you. That will make a difference.
I don't binge, but my friends and I lately love to eat at Korean grill buffet. We usually stay for over 3 hours!
I like to eat enough to cover the next 2, 3 meals but it's not possible. Everything seems gone the next day. LOL.
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endlessfall16 wrote: »I'm just curious what exactly you ate that was that much calorie.
You are like many who binge eat, you simply feel bad at the wrong time! Next time you should feel bad immediately when food is brought in front of you. That will make a difference.
I don't binge, but my friends and I lately love to eat at Korean grill buffet. We usually stay for over 3 hours!
I like to eat enough to cover the next 2, 3 meals but it's not possible. Everything seems gone the next day. LOL.
Yes an enormous difference- it would foster an even more unhealthy relationship with food
OP I can go obscenely over maintenance if I want to, I am a human trash compactor I swear to God. I agree with the PP'S that suggest addressing the root issue here8 -
JessicaMcB wrote: »endlessfall16 wrote: »I'm just curious what exactly you ate that was that much calorie.
You are like many who binge eat, you simply feel bad at the wrong time! Next time you should feel bad immediately when food is brought in front of you. That will make a difference.
I don't binge, but my friends and I lately love to eat at Korean grill buffet. We usually stay for over 3 hours!
I like to eat enough to cover the next 2, 3 meals but it's not possible. Everything seems gone the next day. LOL.
Yes an enormous difference- it would foster an even more unhealthy relationship with food
Has it happened to you or anyone you know?
You know it's not different from the concept of learning from one's mistakes. Learning history. If you can't feel or realize past mistake's impact, you'll repeat it.
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endlessfall16 wrote: »
Has it happened to you or anyone you know?
You know it's not different from the concept of learning from one's mistakes. Learning history. If you can't feel or realize past mistake's impact, you'll repeat it.
Not the person quoted but I have, and those people are called anorexics. Feeling bad about food is usually not a helpful thing.
OP, I'm not sure about your situation but I totally recognize that lack of control around food, regardless of the calorie count. It's worth it to look into this and get some outside help to figure out what is causing you to binge.
Take care of yourself.
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The weight gain might not show up the next day. But don't be surprised if you show a gain of a couple pounds in a week or 2. I often fluctuate 1-2 lbs per day, which can mask a gain or loss.4
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The same way you can be in a deficit and gain (but still have lost fat) due to water fluctuations you are able to do the opposite. If you are over maintenance you are gaining fat. It's doubtful your deficit was over 8k/week so I would think that although your relationship with gravity hasn't changed you have stored fat. I agree with the first poster about addressing why you're overeating to that extent before I worried about 1lb of fat tho3
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endlessfall16 wrote: »
Has it happened to you or anyone you know?
You know it's not different from the concept of learning from one's mistakes. Learning history. If you can't feel or realize past mistake's impact, you'll repeat it.
Not the person quoted but I have, and those people are called anorexics. Feeling bad about food is usually not a helpful thing.
Let me try to understand you correctly. You know first hand of people who have gone from overweight to being anorexics?
That's a very long distance to go, or even if possible. You may aim for the moon but likely all you can reach is the hill and you know you are on the hill if it happens.
However, the continuous, repetitive, destructive overeating in overweight folks is very real and all too common. Worrying about becoming anorexics is too much of putting the cart before the horse.
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endlessfall16 wrote: »endlessfall16 wrote: »
Has it happened to you or anyone you know?
You know it's not different from the concept of learning from one's mistakes. Learning history. If you can't feel or realize past mistake's impact, you'll repeat it.
Not the person quoted but I have, and those people are called anorexics. Feeling bad about food is usually not a helpful thing.
Let me try to understand you correctly. You know first hand of people who have gone from overweight to being anorexics?
That's a very long distance to go, or even if possible. You may aim for the moon but likely all you can reach is the hill and you know you are on the hill if it happens.
However, the continuous, repetitive, destructive overeating in overweight folks is very real and all too common. Worrying about becoming anorexics is too much of putting the cart before the horse.
Anorexia doesn't just affect slim people. In fact, with all the pressure on overweight people to lose it, I wouldn't be surprised if it affects more overweight/obese people than already slim - it's just ignorance like this that leads to it going undiagnosed.
You can be 400lbs and anorexic, all it means is that you dramatically reduce your food intake to the point of eating barely anything in an attempt to lose weight.7 -
endlessfall16 wrote: »
Let me try to understand you correctly. You know first hand of people who have gone from overweight to being anorexics?
Yes, I have known multiple people who have had different manifestations of eating disorders during their lives, from binge eating to over-restricting and vice versa. An unhealthy relationship with food can take many different forms during someone's life.
It's also pretty common to binge because someone was too restrictive with their food in the first place. A lot of diets fail because people are too gung-ho in the beginning and then give up, eat too much and feel terrible. It's a vicious cycle.
Edited to add: I know there is a difference between crash dieting and anorexia. Just wanted to point out that I have know diagnosed anorexics who were formerly overweight, and vice versa.
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endlessfall16 wrote: »endlessfall16 wrote: »
Has it happened to you or anyone you know?
You know it's not different from the concept of learning from one's mistakes. Learning history. If you can't feel or realize past mistake's impact, you'll repeat it.
Not the person quoted but I have, and those people are called anorexics. Feeling bad about food is usually not a helpful thing.
Let me try to understand you correctly. You know first hand of people who have gone from overweight to being anorexics?
That's a very long distance to go, or even if possible. You may aim for the moon but likely all you can reach is the hill and you know you are on the hill if it happens.
However, the continuous, repetitive, destructive overeating in overweight folks is very real and all too common. Worrying about becoming anorexics is too much of putting the cart before the horse.
Anorexia doesn't just affect slim people. In fact, with all the pressure on overweight people to lose it, I wouldn't be surprised if it affects more overweight/obese people than already slim - it's just ignorance like this that leads to it going undiagnosed.
You can be 400lbs and anorexic, all it means is that you dramatically reduce your food intake to the point of eating barely anything in an attempt to lose weight.
I honestly don't understand the last paragraph. Anything i have ever read about anorexia is that they are incredibly skinny and at a very low bmi. I'm not saying it's not true.. but anorexic at 400lbs? Malnourished maybe...
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endlessfall16 wrote: »endlessfall16 wrote: »
Has it happened to you or anyone you know?
You know it's not different from the concept of learning from one's mistakes. Learning history. If you can't feel or realize past mistake's impact, you'll repeat it.
Not the person quoted but I have, and those people are called anorexics. Feeling bad about food is usually not a helpful thing.
Let me try to understand you correctly. You know first hand of people who have gone from overweight to being anorexics?
That's a very long distance to go, or even if possible. You may aim for the moon but likely all you can reach is the hill and you know you are on the hill if it happens.
Yep, one of those right here. Went from overweight to 97lbs before I recovered. Took me two years to fully recover from 3 years of anorexia, and it is quite common for those recovering anorexia to develop binge eating disorder (like I did).
So I'm now 143lbs again, technically overweight, and am here instead to help me lose that weight. But it is hard. It's all too easy to slip back into bad habits, even now, and I find that it can get to the stage where I am too controlling and will slip back into eating a days worth of calories over an entire week. But I'm really trying to keep a healthy mindset and not go back there.
So yes, it is possible, and an unhealthy relationship with food - feeling bad about eating - has seriously damaging consequences, mentally and physically, for years even after recovery. Really not the sort of advice anyone should be giving out IMO.4 -
Christine_72 wrote: »endlessfall16 wrote: »endlessfall16 wrote: »
Has it happened to you or anyone you know?
You know it's not different from the concept of learning from one's mistakes. Learning history. If you can't feel or realize past mistake's impact, you'll repeat it.
Not the person quoted but I have, and those people are called anorexics. Feeling bad about food is usually not a helpful thing.
Let me try to understand you correctly. You know first hand of people who have gone from overweight to being anorexics?
That's a very long distance to go, or even if possible. You may aim for the moon but likely all you can reach is the hill and you know you are on the hill if it happens.
However, the continuous, repetitive, destructive overeating in overweight folks is very real and all too common. Worrying about becoming anorexics is too much of putting the cart before the horse.
Anorexia doesn't just affect slim people. In fact, with all the pressure on overweight people to lose it, I wouldn't be surprised if it affects more overweight/obese people than already slim - it's just ignorance like this that leads to it going undiagnosed.
You can be 400lbs and anorexic, all it means is that you dramatically reduce your food intake to the point of eating barely anything in an attempt to lose weight.
I honestly don't understand the last paragraph. Anything i have ever read about anorexia is that they are incredibly skinny and at a very low bmi. I'm not saying it's not true.. but anorexic at 400lbs? Malnourished maybe...
Anorexia is a mental illness. Being underweight is one of the criteria for diagnosis, though experts are coming to the view that it shouldn't be. The feeling in the field is that if there was less emphasis on "You can't be anorexic, you're not skinny" there would be much earlier intervention and people wouldn't end up dangerously underweight before being taken seriously and receiving treatment. Someone can have all the mental components of anorexia and not be skinny... yet. It just means that they haven't been sick long enough for it to show.11 -
Christine_72 wrote: »endlessfall16 wrote: »endlessfall16 wrote: »
Has it happened to you or anyone you know?
You know it's not different from the concept of learning from one's mistakes. Learning history. If you can't feel or realize past mistake's impact, you'll repeat it.
Not the person quoted but I have, and those people are called anorexics. Feeling bad about food is usually not a helpful thing.
Let me try to understand you correctly. You know first hand of people who have gone from overweight to being anorexics?
That's a very long distance to go, or even if possible. You may aim for the moon but likely all you can reach is the hill and you know you are on the hill if it happens.
However, the continuous, repetitive, destructive overeating in overweight folks is very real and all too common. Worrying about becoming anorexics is too much of putting the cart before the horse.
Anorexia doesn't just affect slim people. In fact, with all the pressure on overweight people to lose it, I wouldn't be surprised if it affects more overweight/obese people than already slim - it's just ignorance like this that leads to it going undiagnosed.
You can be 400lbs and anorexic, all it means is that you dramatically reduce your food intake to the point of eating barely anything in an attempt to lose weight.
I honestly don't understand the last paragraph. Anything i have ever read about anorexia is that they are incredibly skinny and at a very low bmi. I'm not saying it's not true.. but anorexic at 400lbs? Malnourished maybe...
Anorexia is not a body type description, it's an illness with specific symptoms that pertain to disordered food intake and management. Many people do end up looking very thin, but even these people may have been normal or overweight at the beginning of their illness. It's just that eating disorders are often discovered and diagnosed after people are already neck deep into the disorder and start showing worrying body weight signs. Overweight people are often encouraged to lose weight, so when they do, not many suspect anorexia.5
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