People who pick a fight for no reason.
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Avocado_Angel wrote: »My wee brother just came home after spending the weekend out with his friends (He's 16) he told me they were waiting at a train station when some beggars asked him for any spare change (my brother is really kind & decent so does help people out if he sees someone in need, got a history of helping old folk across the road etc) so needless to say he gave this person a few £. Anyway, this beggars friend then decides to steal my brothers new samsung 7 edge, for one reason or another he decides to return the phone...luckily for my brother. But then my brothers friends (slightly more aggressive than my brother say they are going to start a fight with these people for stealing the phone, even talking about stabbing these individuals....more than likely just male bravado but who knows how that situation could have turned out.
Hoping my brother sees this as a lesson learned, even when trying to do something nice for someone can result in getting caught up in a bad situation. You need to really pick and choose who you get involved with while outside or even who you may choose to help. He's probably learning that not everyone is all sweetness & light...
Also on my way to work yesterday evening a man who exited a pub tried to keep getting in front of me, trying to spark up some sort of dialogue between us, I simply kept walking and didn't give him anything, but I noticed he was with another guy, who also came out of the pub, it's dark and I'm on my own so for quite a bit of my walk I was worried these people might decide to catch up with me and start something. I carry a rape alarm so id just have pressed it. But yeah plenty of nutters walking about you really do have to take care
@Avocado_Angel there was a news segment on television once where, someone'd pretend to've a medical emergency press the; body alarm button & then collapse no, 1 helped them in; fact people actually avoided the area because what if, the person has; something contagious or if the victim of, a crime the; perpetrator's nearby & they, might get; shot? Also most people don't respond to, the call for "help" either for the; same reasons! However people'll respond to "fire" due, to their fear that the building that; they're in or their vehicle's on fire! So just yell fire to, draw a; crowd instead!1 -
Avocado_Angel wrote: »My wee brother just came home after spending the weekend out with his friends (He's 16) he told me they were waiting at a train station when some beggars asked him for any spare change (my brother is really kind & decent so does help people out if he sees someone in need, got a history of helping old folk across the road etc) so needless to say he gave this person a few £. Anyway, this beggars friend then decides to steal my brothers new samsung 7 edge, for one reason or another he decides to return the phone...luckily for my brother. But then my brothers friends (slightly more aggressive than my brother say they are going to start a fight with these people for stealing the phone, even talking about stabbing these individuals....more than likely just male bravado but who knows how that situation could have turned out.
Hoping my brother sees this as a lesson learned, even when trying to do something nice for someone can result in getting caught up in a bad situation. You need to really pick and choose who you get involved with while outside or even who you may choose to help. He's probably learning that not everyone is all sweetness & light...
Also on my way to work yesterday evening a man who exited a pub tried to keep getting in front of me, trying to spark up some sort of dialogue between us, I simply kept walking and didn't give him anything, but I noticed he was with another guy, who also came out of the pub, it's dark and I'm on my own so for quite a bit of my walk I was worried these people might decide to catch up with me and start something. I carry a rape alarm so id just have pressed it. But yeah plenty of nutters walking about you really do have to take care
Your brother sounds like a much younger version of my boyfriend. He hasn't learned that lesson. Can't help but be kind and trusting. I love him for it, but he does get burned for it a lot.0 -
Avocado_Angel wrote: »My wee brother just came home after spending the weekend out with his friends (He's 16) he told me they were waiting at a train station when some beggars asked him for any spare change (my brother is really kind & decent so does help people out if he sees someone in need, got a history of helping old folk across the road etc) so needless to say he gave this person a few £. Anyway, this beggars friend then decides to steal my brothers new samsung 7 edge, for one reason or another he decides to return the phone...luckily for my brother. But then my brothers friends (slightly more aggressive than my brother say they are going to start a fight with these people for stealing the phone, even talking about stabbing these individuals....more than likely just male bravado but who knows how that situation could have turned out.
Hoping my brother sees this as a lesson learned, even when trying to do something nice for someone can result in getting caught up in a bad situation. You need to really pick and choose who you get involved with while outside or even who you may choose to help. He's probably learning that not everyone is all sweetness & light...
Also on my way to work yesterday evening a man who exited a pub tried to keep getting in front of me, trying to spark up some sort of dialogue between us, I simply kept walking and didn't give him anything, but I noticed he was with another guy, who also came out of the pub, it's dark and I'm on my own so for quite a bit of my walk I was worried these people might decide to catch up with me and start something. I carry a rape alarm so id just have pressed it. But yeah plenty of nutters walking about you really do have to take care
You are very smart to carry an alarm and I'm glad your brother received his Samsung 7 back.
Over the past fifteen years, I have noticed a steady decline in openly friendly people in public. I spoke with friends and we all agreed that if someone is nice, or generous, then others think you are a weak person.
No one wants to be seen as an easy target. In my city, (which has an old southwest gun loving cowboy/goldminer history) there are a lot of people who put up a strong tough guy/gal front. There are a lot of criminals too and you never know who you are going to run into in public. It's why I don't look people in the eye or say hello.0 -
I would have walked to the the knitting section, watch her follow me, then grabbed a needle, then looked at her with a crazy eyed smile. Works all the time.
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michael1976_ca wrote: »not really in that way...my little brother has had staff at a store (walmart) follow him when he picked up movies to buy....they have had the means of calling him a thief just because other people have stolen from them....that makes me mad that they assume some people as thief's and not others....i've been screamed at in front of a busy store for picking up a lighter and i don't even smoke....it was uncalled for...they could of at least put a sign up stating there policy as far as picking a fight in a store never...out on the street..it happened weekly but that i just pretend i didn't hear them..i'm not a fighter..i hate fighting to tell you the truth
Echoing what I said earlier. He probably already thought -- well they're following me they must think I'm a thief. If you go looking for it, you will find it! #LOA thoughts become things!0 -
@Avocado_Angel there was a news segment on television once where, someone'd pretend to've a medical emergency press the; body alarm button & then collapse no, 1 helped them in; fact people actually avoided the area because what if, the person has; something contagious or if the victim of, a crime the; perpetrator's nearby & they, might get; shot? Also most people don't respond to, the call for "help" either for the; same reasons! However people'll respond to "fire" due, to their fear that the building that; they're in or their vehicle's on fire! So just yell fire to, draw a; crowd instead!
I have heard about the "bystanders effect" where people just watch something bad happening rather than help.
Also, as you mentioned, there are a lot of criminals actively using the "help me" call to lure people. It's an age old problem but with new creative ways to rob or hurt people.
I was shopping in big store the other day and a tall thin woman approached me asking to borrow my phone. My instincts told me not to trust her. Thank goodness I didn't. Turns out there is a scam going on where they borrow your phone and then sign you up for subscription, clone your phone, or just steal your info. I warned the store and they agreed to keep a look out.
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Bystander effect has been studdied fairly extensively.. the cause seems to be mostly a combination of diffusion of responsibility (there are a lot of people here... someone else will take care of the problem.. I'm not anyone who can really help and there must be someone else here who is), and a fear of getting involved (What if it's a lure to take advantage of me?)1
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Bystander effect has been studdied fairly extensively.. the cause seems to be mostly a combination of diffusion of responsibility (there are a lot of people here... someone else will take care of the problem.. I'm not anyone who can really help and there must be someone else here who is), and a fear of getting involved (What if it's a lure to take advantage of me?)
Damned if you do, damned if you don't. It's a sad state of affairs.
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Today I was at the fabric store, talking on the phone, and noticed this woman walking around me. She stopped to listen in on my discussion. I walked away and soon ended my phone call. Then I hear that nosy woman talking loudly to a store employee complaining about me and how she didn't like my attitude? I was never loud, angry, or rude. Then she continued to follow me even up to the register to pay. I looked and she was scowling. Very creepy!
Did you have a similar experience with some stranger in public?
Has anyone ever tried to start a fight with you because of your size (big or small) or because you have muscles or look strong?
Give us your thoughts! ☺
I will bring up the elephant in the room as I am curious about what you were talking about. Don't need specifics but was it political in any way, or otherwise controversial, or was it innocuous like, "Take the 9 bus to the Falcon St stop?" Could help to explain her. She could have been making assumptions about you based on your appearance.
But you didn't ask for me to dissect your situation. You asked if we have had our own nutjobs.
I've had pervs waggle their willies at me.
I've had beggars ask for money - and those dynamics are interesting because I have had everyone from people who look homeless to scammers who try to fit in with the people around them - like on a tourist strip.
But I've never had anyone actually try to start a fight. I think it helps that I am fairly attractive, carry myself with confidence (looks are deceiving aren't they) and will politely make eye contact with you. But it is also luck. I could be just the look a really crazy person needs to set off an episode.
I feel for you.0 -
It goes down at the fabric store.
A yard of polyester gets sold in this burg, I want in!
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A yard?! Sounds like my kind of porn!2
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At mall of america a woman who was hardly watching her 2 year old was sitting at the entrance on her phone. Suddenly the ladies child sits down next to my friend who strongly dislikes children. Friend does nothing until the child tries to grab my friend's bag. My friend jumped and grabbed her bag and the child starts screaming bloody murder and runs off. The mom flies over, starts yelling at my friend and accusing her of hitting her kid and being racist and causing a big scene. My friend yells back that if she gave two *kitten* about her kid she might actually keep her eye on her because she's headed down the escalator. Woman doesn't leave just keeps causing a scene and yelling nonsense. Tourists are watching and one came up and told me they contacted security. Suddenly the woman shuts her mouth and runs in the direction of the now out of sight 2 or 3 year old. Security shows up and we give her description and they leave. One person talked to us for a moment and says they think she taught the kid to steal stuff because the kid was very interested in people's shopping bags and purses as the mom was causing a scene. Just insane.3
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Broomstick_Boo wrote: »A yard?! Sounds like my kind of porn!
I should qualify that I actually get excited that people still know how to measure in yards. Not that someone whipping out a yard stick gets my motor going.
Unless it's Mr Boo, of course...2 -
At mall of america a woman who was hardly watching her 2 year old was sitting at the entrance on her phone. Suddenly the ladies child sits down next to my friend who strongly dislikes children. Friend does nothing until the child tries to grab my friend's bag. My friend jumped and grabbed her bag and the child starts screaming bloody murder and runs off. The mom flies over, starts yelling at my friend and accusing her of hitting her kid and being racist and causing a big scene. My friend yells back that if she gave two *kitten* about her kid she might actually keep her eye on her because she's headed down the escalator. Woman doesn't leave just keeps causing a scene and yelling nonsense. Tourists are watching and one came up and told me they contacted security. Suddenly the woman shuts her mouth and runs in the direction of the now out of sight 2 or 3 year old. Security shows up and we give her description and they leave. One person talked to us for a moment and says they think she taught the kid to steal stuff because the kid was very interested in people's shopping bags and purses as the mom was causing a scene. Just insane.
Would be interesting to hear the other side of this story - as your friend sounds OTT too - no need to yell back at the mother, just explain what happened or move on.
and 2 year olds are interested in everything and dont have social boundaries - I wouldnt want to assume that every toddler who has taken interest in my bag or whatever has been taught to steal.
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paperpudding wrote: »At mall of america a woman who was hardly watching her 2 year old was sitting at the entrance on her phone. Suddenly the ladies child sits down next to my friend who strongly dislikes children. Friend does nothing until the child tries to grab my friend's bag. My friend jumped and grabbed her bag and the child starts screaming bloody murder and runs off. The mom flies over, starts yelling at my friend and accusing her of hitting her kid and being racist and causing a big scene. My friend yells back that if she gave two *kitten* about her kid she might actually keep her eye on her because she's headed down the escalator. Woman doesn't leave just keeps causing a scene and yelling nonsense. Tourists are watching and one came up and told me they contacted security. Suddenly the woman shuts her mouth and runs in the direction of the now out of sight 2 or 3 year old. Security shows up and we give her description and they leave. One person talked to us for a moment and says they think she taught the kid to steal stuff because the kid was very interested in people's shopping bags and purses as the mom was causing a scene. Just insane.
Would be interesting to hear the other side of this story - as your friend sounds OTT too - no need to yell back at the mother, just explain what happened or move on.
and 2 year olds are interested in everything and dont have social boundaries - I wouldnt want to assume that every toddler who has taken interest in my bag or whatever has been taught to steal.
Oh she was nice at first. Literally told the lady what happened but the lady didn't care and had her own version of things. She was not watching her kid at all and just stood there yelling and my friend is not easily intimidated and yes she did fire back after a few minutes because she wanted the lady to go get her kid. I stood there watching this all in pure amazement and so were many other people. Also, I have kids. No way would I allow them at any age to crawl all over random people and try to go through their bags and run around a mall unnattended. Yes, my friend could have just walked away and said nothing but she too was caught off guard by this insane amount of over reaction.
Basically, lady should have been watching her kid and not assumed that my friend's reaction (jumped and pulled her bags to her) to her small child grabbing her bags was malicious or racist. We didn't think the kid was doing anything crazy either but obviously the tourist was concerned about possible pick pockets or something because of how the lady kept going on instead of grabbing her kid and walking away. Also, we were 16 when this happened and this women, who looked to be in her 30s, kept telling my friend that she was going to take her outside and beat her *kitten*. She was hostile and we were just waiting for our ride to go home.0 -
Today I was at the fabric store, talking on the phone, and noticed this woman walking around me. She stopped to listen in on my discussion. I walked away and soon ended my phone call. Then I hear that nosy woman talking loudly to a store employee complaining about me and how she didn't like my attitude? I was never loud, angry, or rude. Then she continued to follow me even up to the register to pay. I looked and she was scowling. Very creepy!
Did you have a similar experience with some stranger in public?
Has anyone ever tried to start a fight with you because of your size (big or small) or because you have muscles or look strong?
Give us your thoughts! ☺
I will bring up the elephant in the room as I am curious about what you were talking about. Don't need specifics but was it political in any way, or otherwise controversial, or was it innocuous like, "Take the 9 bus to the Falcon St stop?" Could help to explain her. She could have been making assumptions about you based on your appearance.
But you didn't ask for me to dissect your situation. You asked if we have had our own nutjobs.
I've had pervs waggle their willies at me.
I've had beggars ask for money - and those dynamics are interesting because I have had everyone from people who look homeless to scammers who try to fit in with the people around them - like on a tourist strip.
But I've never had anyone actually try to start a fight. I think it helps that I am fairly attractive, carry myself with confidence (looks are deceiving aren't they) and will politely make eye contact with you. But it is also luck. I could be just the look a really crazy person needs to set off an episode.
I feel for you.
It's ok to ask what I was talking about. ☺
I was on the phone with my mother because she wanted to know if I could do some shopping for her. She also asked how I was doing and what I was up to. I didn't crack any jokes either. Really boring stuff but I can see why you would ask.
Looking back, I wasn't overly dressed or wearing anything offensive. Just a tank top, pants, and sandles. Maybe I looked like someone she hated? I don't know.0 -
Could you take her if you had to?2
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Broomstick_Boo wrote: »Broomstick_Boo wrote: »A yard?! Sounds like my kind of porn!
I should qualify that I actually get excited that people still know how to measure in yards. Not that someone whipping out a yard stick gets my motor going.
Unless it's Mr Boo, of course...
I hope he measures twice and cuts once.... a yard could mean a big gap...lol0 -
abitoftrouble wrote: »My husband and I were at dinner one night and we couldn't decide what to order. The table next to us (an obvious lesbian couple) was receiving their food. So we looked to see what they had ordered. The plates looked amazing so we stared a while to figure out what they had ordered. We ordered our dinner and we're enjoying our meals when the table next to us finished. As they were leaving the restaurant, the more insecure of the two came up to our table and said "why don't you take a picture, it will last longer". I was shocked! Mostly because she had all dinner to think of something to say and that's the best she could do. But also because we were only admiring their plates and don't care what they eat after dinner. Naturally, I caused a huge scene and embarrassed her more than she could do herself. Got them removed from the restaurant and got the dinner comped and laughed hysterically all the way home. If you can't handle being out in public, don't go out in public. But also don't *kitten* with me and my food.
instead of staring at someone elses table (which is abit weird) - wouldn't it have been politer/easier to just say "excuse me, sorry to trouble you but your food looks delicious, what is it? I'd like to order it too"
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