Eating back calories burnt on long hike.
paigereillymcguire
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Hey, so I've been sticking to (or trying to) eating 1250 calories per day and I've been seeing really good results.
This Saturday I'm planning a 10.5 mile hike around Kinder Scout in the Peak District. Using my own online calculations and MFP it says I'll burn around 2500-3500 calories from the hike. Should I eat around 3000 calories that day leaving me with calories still left over or should I still eat less, Maybe around 2000?
I'm not sure if MFP is exaggerating calories brunt as that seems a lot and don't want to waste a good day eating it all back.
Thanks.
This Saturday I'm planning a 10.5 mile hike around Kinder Scout in the Peak District. Using my own online calculations and MFP it says I'll burn around 2500-3500 calories from the hike. Should I eat around 3000 calories that day leaving me with calories still left over or should I still eat less, Maybe around 2000?
I'm not sure if MFP is exaggerating calories brunt as that seems a lot and don't want to waste a good day eating it all back.
Thanks.
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I rule of thumb with MFP is to eat back half your exercise calories. If this is a one-off thing, I would suggest eating 50%. If you are going to be doing this much exercise regularly, start by eating back 50%, then adjust as necessary.
Personally, I have a Fitbit which is pretty damn accurate, so I ignore what MFP says.5 -
If you think your online calculations are good, I would eat back at least a good portion of those. Since it's one day, you don't have to worry too much about undereating -- but I think your hike will be much more fun if you're eating at least some calories back.2
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eat to fuel your hike then to ease any hunger you feel.
Log it and I wouldn't worry about eating too many I would be more worried about eating too little.6 -
I suppose it just feels weird eating so much since eating a lot less. I understand it's a long day so will need to eat more than 1250 but I didn't know how much I should eat back. Will go with around 50% allowing me to eat 2500.
(The joys of being addicted to meal planning haha)1 -
I would plan to eat more than half. Unless you think the calorie estimate is way over what the burn really is. Maybe eat half and take the equivalent in food bars or something in case you find you need them while hiking. You want to be sure you have the fuel to do the hike.3
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Don't ignore your body. If you feel absolutely starved during or after the hike, it's probably a good idea to replenish with a bit more food.1
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paigereillymcguire wrote: »Hey, so I've been sticking to (or trying to) eating 1250 calories per day and I've been seeing really good results.
This Saturday I'm planning a 10.5 mile hike around Kinder Scout in the Peak District. Using my own online calculations and MFP it says I'll burn around 2500-3500 calories from the hike. Should I eat around 3000 calories that day leaving me with calories still left over or should I still eat less, Maybe around 2000?
I'm not sure if MFP is exaggerating calories brunt as that seems a lot and don't want to waste a good day eating it all back.
Thanks.
10.5 miles? You'll burn around 1050 calories walking that, so I think 2500-3000 might be high. The calories burned estimates are often quite high, but I would certainly plan to eat more than usual that day.2 -
fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »paigereillymcguire wrote: »Hey, so I've been sticking to (or trying to) eating 1250 calories per day and I've been seeing really good results.
This Saturday I'm planning a 10.5 mile hike around Kinder Scout in the Peak District. Using my own online calculations and MFP it says I'll burn around 2500-3500 calories from the hike. Should I eat around 3000 calories that day leaving me with calories still left over or should I still eat less, Maybe around 2000?
I'm not sure if MFP is exaggerating calories brunt as that seems a lot and don't want to waste a good day eating it all back.
Thanks.
10.5 miles? You'll burn around 1050 calories walking that, so I think 2500-3000 might be high. The calories burned estimates are often quite high, but I would certainly plan to eat more than usual that day.
Did OP share her weight? You'd need to know that in order to know how many calories she'd burn.6 -
janejellyroll wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »paigereillymcguire wrote: »Hey, so I've been sticking to (or trying to) eating 1250 calories per day and I've been seeing really good results.
This Saturday I'm planning a 10.5 mile hike around Kinder Scout in the Peak District. Using my own online calculations and MFP it says I'll burn around 2500-3500 calories from the hike. Should I eat around 3000 calories that day leaving me with calories still left over or should I still eat less, Maybe around 2000?
I'm not sure if MFP is exaggerating calories brunt as that seems a lot and don't want to waste a good day eating it all back.
Thanks.
10.5 miles? You'll burn around 1050 calories walking that, so I think 2500-3000 might be high. The calories burned estimates are often quite high, but I would certainly plan to eat more than usual that day.
Did OP share her weight? You'd need to know that in order to know how many calories she'd burn.
height, weight, time spent, elevation etc.7 -
janejellyroll wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »paigereillymcguire wrote: »Hey, so I've been sticking to (or trying to) eating 1250 calories per day and I've been seeing really good results.
This Saturday I'm planning a 10.5 mile hike around Kinder Scout in the Peak District. Using my own online calculations and MFP it says I'll burn around 2500-3500 calories from the hike. Should I eat around 3000 calories that day leaving me with calories still left over or should I still eat less, Maybe around 2000?
I'm not sure if MFP is exaggerating calories brunt as that seems a lot and don't want to waste a good day eating it all back.
Thanks.
10.5 miles? You'll burn around 1050 calories walking that, so I think 2500-3000 might be high. The calories burned estimates are often quite high, but I would certainly plan to eat more than usual that day.
Did OP share her weight? You'd need to know that in order to know how many calories she'd burn.
I'm 153 pounds and 5foot 3 so probably a bit higher than normal and kinder scout isnt just walking. It's the highest peak in the district at 636m elevation and I'll be carrying around 10lbs up and down (10.5 mile round)2 -
janejellyroll wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »paigereillymcguire wrote: »Hey, so I've been sticking to (or trying to) eating 1250 calories per day and I've been seeing really good results.
This Saturday I'm planning a 10.5 mile hike around Kinder Scout in the Peak District. Using my own online calculations and MFP it says I'll burn around 2500-3500 calories from the hike. Should I eat around 3000 calories that day leaving me with calories still left over or should I still eat less, Maybe around 2000?
I'm not sure if MFP is exaggerating calories brunt as that seems a lot and don't want to waste a good day eating it all back.
Thanks.
10.5 miles? You'll burn around 1050 calories walking that, so I think 2500-3000 might be high. The calories burned estimates are often quite high, but I would certainly plan to eat more than usual that day.
Did OP share her weight? You'd need to know that in order to know how many calories she'd burn.
I said "around". It's fairly well published that the average burn is close to 100 calories per mile, walking. Running is only a few calories more. And yes, if she is overweight, then it would be a bit higher. I've done a good amount of very strenuous hiking. It certainly burns more calories than walking. But I think that tripling the calories would be overestimating.0 -
fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »paigereillymcguire wrote: »Hey, so I've been sticking to (or trying to) eating 1250 calories per day and I've been seeing really good results.
This Saturday I'm planning a 10.5 mile hike around Kinder Scout in the Peak District. Using my own online calculations and MFP it says I'll burn around 2500-3500 calories from the hike. Should I eat around 3000 calories that day leaving me with calories still left over or should I still eat less, Maybe around 2000?
I'm not sure if MFP is exaggerating calories brunt as that seems a lot and don't want to waste a good day eating it all back.
Thanks.
10.5 miles? You'll burn around 1050 calories walking that
Without knowing the person's weight, how heavy their pack is, how much elevation gain and loss are involved, and what the ground surface is like (pavement, smooth dirt, nasty rutted rocks and roots, talus?) it's impossible to say. Could easily be double that.3 -
fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »paigereillymcguire wrote: »Hey, so I've been sticking to (or trying to) eating 1250 calories per day and I've been seeing really good results.
This Saturday I'm planning a 10.5 mile hike around Kinder Scout in the Peak District. Using my own online calculations and MFP it says I'll burn around 2500-3500 calories from the hike. Should I eat around 3000 calories that day leaving me with calories still left over or should I still eat less, Maybe around 2000?
I'm not sure if MFP is exaggerating calories brunt as that seems a lot and don't want to waste a good day eating it all back.
Thanks.
10.5 miles? You'll burn around 1050 calories walking that, so I think 2500-3000 might be high. The calories burned estimates are often quite high, but I would certainly plan to eat more than usual that day.
Did OP share her weight? You'd need to know that in order to know how many calories she'd burn.
I said "around". It's fairly well published that the average burn is close to 100 calories per mile, walking. Running is only a few calories more. And yes, if she is overweight, then it would be a bit higher.
Without knowing someone's weight (and the other details @SezxyStef mentioned), I'm still not sure how you even came up with an estimate. An "average" burn isn't that helpful in determining what an individual would burn. A calorie estimator would estimate that I would burn 400 calories on a 5 five run (at a ten minute mile). A 200-pound person would be estimated to burn 756 in that same time. Individual differences matter when it comes to things like this.1 -
Like others have said, eating back only half of burned calories is a pretty good way to go, but I will add: If you're not hungry for them, don't eat them back. I find LISSC to have a bit of an appetite suppressant effect sometimes. 10 miles is a doozy of a hike, so maybe just a little snack in the very least
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fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »paigereillymcguire wrote: »Hey, so I've been sticking to (or trying to) eating 1250 calories per day and I've been seeing really good results.
This Saturday I'm planning a 10.5 mile hike around Kinder Scout in the Peak District. Using my own online calculations and MFP it says I'll burn around 2500-3500 calories from the hike. Should I eat around 3000 calories that day leaving me with calories still left over or should I still eat less, Maybe around 2000?
I'm not sure if MFP is exaggerating calories brunt as that seems a lot and don't want to waste a good day eating it all back.
Thanks.
10.5 miles? You'll burn around 1050 calories walking that, so I think 2500-3000 might be high. The calories burned estimates are often quite high, but I would certainly plan to eat more than usual that day.
Did OP share her weight? You'd need to know that in order to know how many calories she'd burn.
I said "around". It's fairly well published that the average burn is close to 100 calories per mile, walking. Running is only a few calories more. And yes, if she is overweight, then it would be a bit higher. I've done a good amount of very strenuous hiking. It certainly burns more calories than walking. But I think that tripling the calories would be overestimating.
Running is roughly double the energy requirement of walking because running requires you to jump with every step, it's far more work than walking.1 -
NorthCascades wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »paigereillymcguire wrote: »Hey, so I've been sticking to (or trying to) eating 1250 calories per day and I've been seeing really good results.
This Saturday I'm planning a 10.5 mile hike around Kinder Scout in the Peak District. Using my own online calculations and MFP it says I'll burn around 2500-3500 calories from the hike. Should I eat around 3000 calories that day leaving me with calories still left over or should I still eat less, Maybe around 2000?
I'm not sure if MFP is exaggerating calories brunt as that seems a lot and don't want to waste a good day eating it all back.
Thanks.
10.5 miles? You'll burn around 1050 calories walking that
Without knowing the person's weight, how heavy their pack is, how much elevation gain and loss are involved, and what the ground surface is like (pavement, smooth dirt, nasty rutted rocks and roots, talus?) it's impossible to say. Could easily be double that.
I'm 153 pounds and 5foot 3 so probably a bit higher than normal and kinder scout is the highest peak in the district at 636m elevation and I'll be carrying around 10lbs on rough terrain and hill grass? Lol no paths included really apart from trodden ground.
I'll do what others say and just eat when my bidy needs it and see how I go.0 -
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janejellyroll wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »paigereillymcguire wrote: »Hey, so I've been sticking to (or trying to) eating 1250 calories per day and I've been seeing really good results.
This Saturday I'm planning a 10.5 mile hike around Kinder Scout in the Peak District. Using my own online calculations and MFP it says I'll burn around 2500-3500 calories from the hike. Should I eat around 3000 calories that day leaving me with calories still left over or should I still eat less, Maybe around 2000?
I'm not sure if MFP is exaggerating calories brunt as that seems a lot and don't want to waste a good day eating it all back.
Thanks.
10.5 miles? You'll burn around 1050 calories walking that, so I think 2500-3000 might be high. The calories burned estimates are often quite high, but I would certainly plan to eat more than usual that day.
Did OP share her weight? You'd need to know that in order to know how many calories she'd burn.
I said "around". It's fairly well published that the average burn is close to 100 calories per mile, walking. Running is only a few calories more. And yes, if she is overweight, then it would be a bit higher.
Without knowing someone's weight (and the other details @SezxyStef mentioned), I'm still not sure how you even came up with an estimate. An "average" burn isn't that helpful in determining what an individual would burn. A calorie estimator would estimate that I would burn 400 calories on a 5 five run (at a ten minute mile). A 200-pound person would be estimated to burn 756 in that same time. Individual differences matter when it comes to things like this.
100 calories per mile is a good RULE OF THUMB. Just an average. I was not implying that was an actual calorie burn. Perhaps my point is that knowing the ACTUAL CALORIE BURN to figure out what to eat, is really not that useful in the first place.
http://www.runnersworld.com/weight-loss/biggest-weight-loss-myth-revealed
http://vitals.lifehacker.com/why-tracking-calories-from-exercise-may-sabotage-your-w-1702505447
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Geocitiesuser wrote: »Like others have said, eating back only half of burned calories is a pretty good way to go, but I will add: If you're not hungry for them, don't eat them back. I find LISSC to have a bit of an appetite suppressant effect sometimes. 10 miles is a doozy of a hike, so maybe just a little snack in the very least
I agree 100%.1 -
fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »Geocitiesuser wrote: »Like others have said, eating back only half of burned calories is a pretty good way to go, but I will add: If you're not hungry for them, don't eat them back. I find LISSC to have a bit of an appetite suppressant effect sometimes. 10 miles is a doozy of a hike, so maybe just a little snack in the very least
I agree 100%.
hunger is not always a good indicator.
For example I can sometimes forget to eat breakfast in the morning on the weekends...and then when I remember I eat a normal lunch etc but I am missing those calories...then I exercise and it takes a good couple of days ot really recover from lack of nutrition and fuel for my workouts.
Sometimes you just have to eat because you know you need to...1 -
fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »paigereillymcguire wrote: »Hey, so I've been sticking to (or trying to) eating 1250 calories per day and I've been seeing really good results.
This Saturday I'm planning a 10.5 mile hike around Kinder Scout in the Peak District. Using my own online calculations and MFP it says I'll burn around 2500-3500 calories from the hike. Should I eat around 3000 calories that day leaving me with calories still left over or should I still eat less, Maybe around 2000?
I'm not sure if MFP is exaggerating calories brunt as that seems a lot and don't want to waste a good day eating it all back.
Thanks.
10.5 miles? You'll burn around 1050 calories walking that, so I think 2500-3000 might be high. The calories burned estimates are often quite high, but I would certainly plan to eat more than usual that day.
Did OP share her weight? You'd need to know that in order to know how many calories she'd burn.
I said "around". It's fairly well published that the average burn is close to 100 calories per mile, walking. Running is only a few calories more. And yes, if she is overweight, then it would be a bit higher.
Without knowing someone's weight (and the other details @SezxyStef mentioned), I'm still not sure how you even came up with an estimate. An "average" burn isn't that helpful in determining what an individual would burn. A calorie estimator would estimate that I would burn 400 calories on a 5 five run (at a ten minute mile). A 200-pound person would be estimated to burn 756 in that same time. Individual differences matter when it comes to things like this.
100 calories per mile is a good RULE OF THUMB. Just an average. I was not implying that was an actual calorie burn. Perhaps my point is that knowing the ACTUAL CALORIE BURN to figure out what to eat, is really not that useful in the first place.
http://www.runnersworld.com/weight-loss/biggest-weight-loss-myth-revealed
http://vitals.lifehacker.com/why-tracking-calories-from-exercise-may-sabotage-your-w-1702505447
When you wrote "You'll burn around 1050 calories walking that," I took that to mean you were advancing some kind of estimate as to how many calories she would actually burn. My only point was that without more information, an estimate based on average burns isn't that helpful for determining what OP should do in this specific situation.
OP is eating 1,250 calories a day, which is pretty low. I understand that you don't consider eating back activity calories to be a useful practice, but her goal of 1,250 probably doesn't come anywhere close to accounting for heavy activity of this type.
Do you honestly think one day of eating more in order to account for a out-of-the-ordinary 10 mile hike is going to sabotage OP's weight loss? This feels a bit like fear-mongering.5 -
I would not eat an extra 2500 or 3000 calories. First, if the estimate is high you will overeat.
You should eat some of it, but not all. If it was me, I would bring snacks for the hike to eat as necessary. In terms of your meals, go by hunger. Maybe you will only need an extra 500 or 750. You will in no way be harmed by eating at a larger than usual deficit for one day.
If this becomes a regular thing, you will most likely notice that your hunger increases and you might consider eating more in that case.1 -
For a hike like that I usually add about 1 000 - 1 250 cals to my diet, but I also take some extra with me just in case. But to be honest that has been through trial and error.
I generally would go for a full english breakfast, small lunch, some fruit and larger dinner. In part as I don't like to eat much when I am hiking.0 -
paigereillymcguire wrote: »NorthCascades wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »paigereillymcguire wrote: »Hey, so I've been sticking to (or trying to) eating 1250 calories per day and I've been seeing really good results.
This Saturday I'm planning a 10.5 mile hike around Kinder Scout in the Peak District. Using my own online calculations and MFP it says I'll burn around 2500-3500 calories from the hike. Should I eat around 3000 calories that day leaving me with calories still left over or should I still eat less, Maybe around 2000?
I'm not sure if MFP is exaggerating calories brunt as that seems a lot and don't want to waste a good day eating it all back.
Thanks.
10.5 miles? You'll burn around 1050 calories walking that
Without knowing the person's weight, how heavy their pack is, how much elevation gain and loss are involved, and what the ground surface is like (pavement, smooth dirt, nasty rutted rocks and roots, talus?) it's impossible to say. Could easily be double that.
I'm 153 pounds and 5foot 3 so probably a bit higher than normal and kinder scout is the highest peak in the district at 636m elevation and I'll be carrying around 10lbs on rough terrain and hill grass? Lol no paths included really apart from trodden ground.
I'll do what others say and just eat when my bidy needs it and see how I go.
It sounds like a great hike, I hope you enjoy it! Bring some snacks and eat regularly on the way, it'll help you avoid being starved at the end and possibly binging. If you feel like it, come back and post photos here. 4 -
a nice glass of wine after a long hike sounds heavenly to me....... make that the whole bottle.1
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fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »paigereillymcguire wrote: »Hey, so I've been sticking to (or trying to) eating 1250 calories per day and I've been seeing really good results.
This Saturday I'm planning a 10.5 mile hike around Kinder Scout in the Peak District. Using my own online calculations and MFP it says I'll burn around 2500-3500 calories from the hike. Should I eat around 3000 calories that day leaving me with calories still left over or should I still eat less, Maybe around 2000?
I'm not sure if MFP is exaggerating calories brunt as that seems a lot and don't want to waste a good day eating it all back.
Thanks.
10.5 miles? You'll burn around 1050 calories walking that, so I think 2500-3000 might be high. The calories burned estimates are often quite high, but I would certainly plan to eat more than usual that day.
She's not walking it...she's hiking it. BIG difference. My calorie burns on hikes are much high than on an equivalent run (rough terrain, lots of lateral movement, more muscle work needed to balance, elevation gain, etc...plus the pack she'll carry. She's adding a significant elevation change...over 2,000 feet which is the equivalent of adding at least a couple of miles to it.
I don't know what she'll burn, but it is certainly higher than 100 cal /mile.6 -
Hiking burns a ton of calories. It's great exercise. Enjoy your hike! and allow yourself the extra food. Don't make it "oh my gosh I HAVE to eat this much or I'll die!!!" but absolutely plan on eating at LEAST half back , and I'd actually be lenient for the next day as well. I get delayed hunger (the next day) after hiking.4
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janejellyroll wrote: »
When you wrote "You'll burn around 1050 calories walking that," I took that to mean you were advancing some kind of estimate as to how many calories she would actually burn.
And that is certainly not what I wrote. I said "around", and I said "WALKING". NOT hiking. I was simply presenting information that might be useful.janejellyroll wrote: »Do you honestly think one day of eating more in order to account for a out-of-the-ordinary 10 mile hike is going to sabotage OP's weight loss? This feels a bit like fear-mongering.
Nonsense. Nowhere did I say any such thing. Fear mongering? That's hilarious.
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I eat about 500 or so cals for breakfast, then pack lots of 100 Cal snacks with me, but I try to save some cals back for a nice dinner out afterward if I can. Since I am a compulsive eater, I check my Fitbit Charge HR to be sure I really burned off enough cals to eat my next snack. (I eat my discomfort and frustration, hungry or not. Gum is a good friend on long hikes!)
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MoiAussi93 wrote: »fitmom4lifemfp wrote: »paigereillymcguire wrote: »Hey, so I've been sticking to (or trying to) eating 1250 calories per day and I've been seeing really good results.
This Saturday I'm planning a 10.5 mile hike around Kinder Scout in the Peak District. Using my own online calculations and MFP it says I'll burn around 2500-3500 calories from the hike. Should I eat around 3000 calories that day leaving me with calories still left over or should I still eat less, Maybe around 2000?
I'm not sure if MFP is exaggerating calories brunt as that seems a lot and don't want to waste a good day eating it all back.
Thanks.
10.5 miles? You'll burn around 1050 calories walking that, so I think 2500-3000 might be high. The calories burned estimates are often quite high, but I would certainly plan to eat more than usual that day.
She's not walking it...she's hiking it. BIG difference. My calorie burns on hikes are much high than on an equivalent run (rough terrain, lots of lateral movement, more muscle work needed to balance, elevation gain, etc...plus the pack she'll carry. She's adding a significant elevation change...over 2,000 feet which is the equivalent of adding at least a couple of miles to it.
I don't know what she'll burn, but it is certainly higher than 100 cal /mile.
No one actually reads anymore, apparently.
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