Kindergartener Suspended
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Freyas, bottom line, he'll learn his lesson. I got kicked off the bus my first day of kindergarten for beating up a 6th grade boy who was picking on my big sister who was in 2nd grade. I pinched him and punched him until he cried and apologized to my sister for making her cry. I learned my lesson though, as did the other kid.
I would have a talk with the Principal to see if the other kid was punished as well and explain that you do understand the reasoning behind it.3 -
abitoftrouble wrote: »JeepHair77 wrote: »_notorious_ wrote: »Because parents who think reprimanding children is barbaric, leaving the disciplining up to the schools.
Someone has to do it.
But suspending them doesn't do it. I agree - a reprimand, a discussion, a learning should come from this. And I have no doubt that @FreyasRebirth will address what happened (and has, already). Suspension seems like the laziest response to behavior there is. Shoot - detention and making a kid write "I will not poison my classmates" 100 times would at least be responsive (probably dumb, but responsive).
Then this post would be about how barbaric writing those sentences were. The schools have their hands tied when it comes to discipline but they have to discipline.
Sure it would. I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just saying, if you're going to get flack no matter what you do, you might as well do something that makes some modicum of rational sense.
I'm certainly not arguing that the behavior shouldn't be punished. I'm just arguing that suspension is a stupid punishment and should be used as an absolute last resort.1 -
I'm not sure if anyone said this yet, because I didn't read anybody else's response, but during the suspended day you shouldn't be allowing the boy to play video games or watch television or whatever other things he enjoys doing. To him, a suspension will just mean he gets a day off from school. You have to back up the principal's decision as an actual punishment.7
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CaptainHandsome wrote: »I'm not sure if anyone said this yet, because I didn't read anybody else's response, but during the suspended day you shouldn't be allowing the boy to play video games or watch television or whatever other things he enjoys doing. To him, a suspension will just mean he gets a day off from school. You have to back up the principal's decision as an actual punishment.
Oh no, he's not playing. He has written his apology note and he is grounded to his room, expected to get it clean while he is in there.7 -
1 Day. Lesson Learned. He won't do it again. It's fair.3
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Yes, he deserved to be suspended. You claim it was stupid, not malicious. I don't know about that...tampering with somebody else's food is pretty malicious to me. Whether the intent is to harm them, gross them out, anger them, or just laugh at them...it is not done with good intentions.
Whether he did it on his own or at somebody else's urging is irrelevant. He needs to learn boundaries and that actions have consequences.7 -
Boy it was a paddle back in my day lol...but hey he learned (hopefully) his lesson best to move on.1
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CatchMom13 wrote: »DeficitDuchess wrote: »
Why did you flag him? He didn't say anything inappropriate. So because he has a different opinion than you, you felt the need to flag him? Do I think the situation calls for a spanking? No. But I'm mature enough to not flag someone for thinking differently.
While personally I, believe spanking's abuse it; by law within the US & this' a US company isn't considered abuse. However spanking the child until, they pee their pants isn't spanking; it's a beating & that, by US law & thus this company'd be, considered abuse & therefore, it's a; flaggable offense!2 -
CatchMom13 wrote: »DeficitDuchess wrote: »
Why did you flag him? He didn't say anything inappropriate. So because he has a different opinion than you, you felt the need to flag him? Do I think the situation calls for a spanking? No. But I'm mature enough to not flag someone for thinking differently.
Spanking is one thing...spanking until a child urinates him/herself would be abuse, not discipline.5 -
tcunbeliever wrote: »He's old enough to know that hand sanitizer isn't edible as evidenced by the fact that he didn't eat it himself.
When I spoke to the principal on the phone, he told me that (when the principal asked how he would feel) my son didn't see a problem with eating it himself. I think if this instigator kid told him to eat it himself, he probably would have.1 -
DeficitDuchess wrote: »CatchMom13 wrote: »DeficitDuchess wrote: »
Why did you flag him? He didn't say anything inappropriate. So because he has a different opinion than you, you felt the need to flag him? Do I think the situation calls for a spanking? No. But I'm mature enough to not flag someone for thinking differently.
While personally I, believe spanking's abuse it; by law within the US & this' a US company isn't considered abuse. However spanking the child until, they pee their pants isn't spanking; it's a beating & that, by US law & thus this company'd be, considered abuse & therefore, it's a; flaggable offense!
It also falls within the range of Free Speech. Do I think his comment was ridiculous? Absolutely. However, it's not flaggable just because it's ridiculous and over the top. Besides, I'm guessing that the comment wasn't made with 100% seriousness.2 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »CatchMom13 wrote: »DeficitDuchess wrote: »
Why did you flag him? He didn't say anything inappropriate. So because he has a different opinion than you, you felt the need to flag him? Do I think the situation calls for a spanking? No. But I'm mature enough to not flag someone for thinking differently.
Spanking is one thing...spanking until a child urinates him/herself would be abuse, not discipline.
I agree with you 100%. Still doesn't make it a flaggable comment. It makes it an absolutely ridiculous comment, but still not flaggable (IMO).2 -
Suspension gets the parents' attention.
Parents also need to learn lessons in situations like this. It's not only the school's job to teach their kids.9 -
CatchMom13 wrote: »DeficitDuchess wrote: »CatchMom13 wrote: »DeficitDuchess wrote: »
Why did you flag him? He didn't say anything inappropriate. So because he has a different opinion than you, you felt the need to flag him? Do I think the situation calls for a spanking? No. But I'm mature enough to not flag someone for thinking differently.
While personally I, believe spanking's abuse it; by law within the US & this' a US company isn't considered abuse. However spanking the child until, they pee their pants isn't spanking; it's a beating & that, by US law & thus this company'd be, considered abuse & therefore, it's a; flaggable offense!
It also falls within the range of Free Speech. Do I think his comment was ridiculous? Absolutely. However, it's not flaggable just because it's ridiculous and over the top. Besides, I'm guessing that the comment wasn't made with 100% seriousness.
Free speech means that, only the government's unable to; arrest, fine and/or fire you (if you're their employee) for, your opinions! A private company such, as this has; the right & does, limit it's users; speech/topics!
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abitoftrouble wrote: »
or for your belief to be proven to, be fiction rather; than your opinion!0 -
DeficitDuchess wrote: »CatchMom13 wrote: »DeficitDuchess wrote: »CatchMom13 wrote: »DeficitDuchess wrote: »
Why did you flag him? He didn't say anything inappropriate. So because he has a different opinion than you, you felt the need to flag him? Do I think the situation calls for a spanking? No. But I'm mature enough to not flag someone for thinking differently.
While personally I, believe spanking's abuse it; by law within the US & this' a US company isn't considered abuse. However spanking the child until, they pee their pants isn't spanking; it's a beating & that, by US law & thus this company'd be, considered abuse & therefore, it's a; flaggable offense!
It also falls within the range of Free Speech. Do I think his comment was ridiculous? Absolutely. However, it's not flaggable just because it's ridiculous and over the top. Besides, I'm guessing that the comment wasn't made with 100% seriousness.
Free speech means that, only the government's unable to; arrest, fine and/or fire you (if you're their employee) for, your opinions! A private company such, as this has; the right & does, limit it's users; speech!
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/welcome/guidelines
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10007789/flagged-content-reported-posts-warning-points#latestDeficitDuchess wrote: »CatchMom13 wrote: »DeficitDuchess wrote: »CatchMom13 wrote: »DeficitDuchess wrote: »
Why did you flag him? He didn't say anything inappropriate. So because he has a different opinion than you, you felt the need to flag him? Do I think the situation calls for a spanking? No. But I'm mature enough to not flag someone for thinking differently.
While personally I, believe spanking's abuse it; by law within the US & this' a US company isn't considered abuse. However spanking the child until, they pee their pants isn't spanking; it's a beating & that, by US law & thus this company'd be, considered abuse & therefore, it's a; flaggable offense!
It also falls within the range of Free Speech. Do I think his comment was ridiculous? Absolutely. However, it's not flaggable just because it's ridiculous and over the top. Besides, I'm guessing that the comment wasn't made with 100% seriousness.
Free speech means that, only the government's unable to; arrest, fine and/or fire you (if you're their employee) for, your opinions! A private company such, as this has; the right & does, limit it's users; speech!
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/welcome/guidelines
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10007789/flagged-content-reported-posts-warning-points#latest
I understand what you're saying and am aware that MFP has there own private rules. I still don't see where it violate the terms though after reading through them again. All I'm saying is that while I don't think any one of us would agree with what he said, I don't believe it warrants flagging his comment. That's all. The MFP guidelines appear to support that opinion too.1 -
Guideline 4, advocating violence.4
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CatchMom13 wrote: »DeficitDuchess wrote: »CatchMom13 wrote: »DeficitDuchess wrote: »CatchMom13 wrote: »DeficitDuchess wrote: »
Why did you flag him? He didn't say anything inappropriate. So because he has a different opinion than you, you felt the need to flag him? Do I think the situation calls for a spanking? No. But I'm mature enough to not flag someone for thinking differently.
While personally I, believe spanking's abuse it; by law within the US & this' a US company isn't considered abuse. However spanking the child until, they pee their pants isn't spanking; it's a beating & that, by US law & thus this company'd be, considered abuse & therefore, it's a; flaggable offense!
It also falls within the range of Free Speech. Do I think his comment was ridiculous? Absolutely. However, it's not flaggable just because it's ridiculous and over the top. Besides, I'm guessing that the comment wasn't made with 100% seriousness.
Free speech means that, only the government's unable to; arrest, fine and/or fire you (if you're their employee) for, your opinions! A private company such, as this has; the right & does, limit it's users; speech!
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/welcome/guidelines
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10007789/flagged-content-reported-posts-warning-points#latestDeficitDuchess wrote: »CatchMom13 wrote: »DeficitDuchess wrote: »CatchMom13 wrote: »DeficitDuchess wrote: »
Why did you flag him? He didn't say anything inappropriate. So because he has a different opinion than you, you felt the need to flag him? Do I think the situation calls for a spanking? No. But I'm mature enough to not flag someone for thinking differently.
While personally I, believe spanking's abuse it; by law within the US & this' a US company isn't considered abuse. However spanking the child until, they pee their pants isn't spanking; it's a beating & that, by US law & thus this company'd be, considered abuse & therefore, it's a; flaggable offense!
It also falls within the range of Free Speech. Do I think his comment was ridiculous? Absolutely. However, it's not flaggable just because it's ridiculous and over the top. Besides, I'm guessing that the comment wasn't made with 100% seriousness.
Free speech means that, only the government's unable to; arrest, fine and/or fire you (if you're their employee) for, your opinions! A private company such, as this has; the right & does, limit it's users; speech!
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/welcome/guidelines
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10007789/flagged-content-reported-posts-warning-points#latest
I understand what you're saying and am aware that MFP has there own private rules. I still don't see where it violate the terms though after reading through them again. All I'm saying is that while I don't think any one of us would agree with what he said, I don't believe it warrants flagging his comment. That's all. The MFP guidelines appear to support that opinion too.
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Gimsteinn1 wrote: »_notorious_ wrote: »Because parents who think reprimanding children is barbaric, leaving the disciplining up to the schools.
Someone has to do it.
They're 6 year old, not 16.
Apparently you're not allowed to make mistakes as a kid.. I can see why the school system there has such a bad reputation
You are allowed to make mistakes as a kid. But there's also consequences for mistakes sometimes...which is also an important thing for kids to learn.
It won't kill kids to have to face consequences for their actions. I was punished harshly frequently as a kid. Grew up just fine. They'll survive.CatchMom13 wrote: »I would have a talk with the Principal to see if the other kid was punished as well and explain that you do understand the reasoning behind it.
I wouldn't even do this. Just accept the suspension and leave the principal alone. How are kids supposed to learn to respect teachers/elders if parents question teachers' every move. School officials and teachers put 75% of their energy toward dealing with complaining parents. If parents could just stand with teachers more often, teachers could put that 75% toward actually doing good teaching.
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