But I would have to add a HONEYBUN
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nicolepburgess91 wrote: »
It takes 24+ hours for food to fully pass through your digestive system. Even if this were true (it's not) you couldn't do anything about it. Your body is a 24/7 factory. It doesn't shut down until you die.17 -
TavistockToad wrote: »nicolepburgess91 wrote: »Tried30UserNames wrote: »You could add a honeybun. I don't know what that is, but if it's something you like and it fits in your calorie/nutrition goals, why not eat it?
Haha it was an exaggeration. It's like a giant breaded thing that's coated in gooey sugar. Totally not subjecting myself to that malarkey.
Why not? Under eating is unhealthy. If a honeybun fits your cals and macros then it's not doing you any harm.
If someone is eating at around 900 calories adding 300 calories of a nutrient poor (i.e. junk food) isn't going to provide adequate nutrition.
The closer one is to the lower acceptable daily calorie amount, the more nutrient dense their diet needs to be for adequate nutrition.4 -
Unless you have reflux issues, there's no reason to avoid eating before bed. Having an evening snack while watching TV in bed is one of my favorite things to do.2
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Eat as late as you want. If you're not losing weight, you are not eating as little as you think. Before adding a nice nutrient dense snack to your day, tighten up your logging with a food scale, accurate entries, and being careful to log all drinks, oils, and condiments. Weigh all solids and semi-solids.6
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Based on what you say about your eating, I'm concerned that you may be low-balling protein consumption. Roasted veg would only have a few grams, and Lean Cuisine aren't typically protein-rich. Maybe add some protein to your day?
(There's some research suggesting we need extra protein while losing weight, to reduce risk of losing lean body tissue - like muscle and bone - alongside the fat loss. Personally, while losing, I tried for 0.6-0.8g protein per pound of healthy goal weight. Fat is also important; I'd strive for 0.35-0.45g per pound of healthy goal weight).
Adequate calories to fuel your body is an important goal, but so is nutrition.
I agree with those who believe that if you're truly netting 900 daily on average for a month, you'd be losing weight, and too rapidly. Heck, I'm losing right now (very slowly, I admit) at 5'5" and about 130lbs, at 1600+ net, and I'm 61 years old.6 -
The diet world is full of a bunch of crap.
You can't eat before bed! Don't use artificial sweeteners because you'll get all the cancer! PUT AVOCADO ON EVERYTHING (pfft I love avocado but I tend to spend my calories elsewhere). Eat all the nuts (again, yum... But portion). Infuse your water with fruit and drink this tea right before bed (and only right before bed!!!!) to lose weight! Oh yeah, carbs, sugar, and fat signed a pact with Satan.
Honestly it's exhausting, so I just ignore it and I've lost over 120lbs. Don't believe things you read man. It's not worth it. You need balanced nutrients, including protein with your veg. I know microwave meals are hella convenient but they're not really giving you a whole lot.28 -
To be totally honest, I'd be more worried about your microwave packet meal than a honey bun.6
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Just to repeat what some others have said.....
1) Obviously, make sure you're using a food scale, and finding the USDA listings in the database. I search for "Food item USDA" and find the one based on 100g. These are usually the most accurate
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2) If you're really having trouble hitting enough calories, a few tablespoons of oil on your veggies or a quick mouthful of peanut butter can make you go from under to over in the blink of an eye. Some companies are making flavored peanut butters now... it's dangerous.
Anyone else really want a honeybun right now? No? Me neither....3 -
As someone who eats 1270 calories (5'2, 194#, female), it's not hard to hit 1200 calories everyday. I'm guessing that your meals (if you're eating breakfast) average around 200 calories, with an occasional snack in between. Set your calorie goals higher to an average of 300-350 calories for meals with an identifiable protein source, and fill the rest with snacks. And as others have said, fill it with calorie dense foods. 900 calories sounds miserable (to me), and you can easily lose weight at 1200 calories (or more sometimes).2
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nicolepburgess91 wrote: »MelanieCN77 wrote: »How did you gain the weight you are trying to lose?
I have always been overweight. Since I was a kid.
That's sidestepping the question but there are plenty of misunderstandings you have about food and nutrition. I hope the facts and suggestions here are helpful to you.6 -
nicolepburgess91 wrote: »So, I'm finding it incredibly difficult to meet 1200 calories a day. I eat when I'm hungry and make healthy choices. I love oven roasted vegetables for lunch. And then I typically have a lean cuisine at night. I am pretty much sedentary except the occasional days of walking around the local town. I typically cap off my days around 900 calories. I refuse to eat 1 and a half hours before I go to sleep. I know I'm supposed to be at 1200, but I can't seem to reach it. I'm just not that hungry. And get this - I've been at the same weight for almost a month!! Tips and advice appreciated.
figure out your maintenance. Not losing weight for a month, it means you are eating this. Since you say you are overweight, you are probably eating twice as much as you think. Something is not right with your logging.4 -
RelCanonical wrote: »
But really, I looked up honeybun 'cause I wasn't quite sure what it was, and straight up found out that Rick Ross likes to put cheese on his honeybuns. WHAT. Not sure if I should be repulsed or if I need to head to the 7/11 right now.
Oh hell no.
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Christine_72 wrote: »To be totally honest, I'd be more worried about your microwave packet meal than a honey bun.
Why?2 -
Packerjohn wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »nicolepburgess91 wrote: »Tried30UserNames wrote: »You could add a honeybun. I don't know what that is, but if it's something you like and it fits in your calorie/nutrition goals, why not eat it?
Haha it was an exaggeration. It's like a giant breaded thing that's coated in gooey sugar. Totally not subjecting myself to that malarkey.
Why not? Under eating is unhealthy. If a honeybun fits your cals and macros then it's not doing you any harm.
If someone is eating at around 900 calories adding 300 calories of a nutrient poor (i.e. junk food) isn't going to provide adequate nutrition.
The closer one is to the lower acceptable daily calorie amount, the more nutrient dense their diet needs to be for adequate nutrition.
Getting enough calories is just as important as nutrients.7 -
Something that wasn't mentioned in this thread - Be sure to check any of the foods you log here. I've only been here a month, but almost everyday, I have to adjust some of the numbers entered in the nutrition area of various foods. Ingredients/recipes change over the years, and who knows how old some of these are.4
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TavistockToad wrote: »nicolepburgess91 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »nicolepburgess91 wrote: »For the most part I try to avoid things with ingredient lists this long:
enriched flour (wheat flour, malted barley flour, niacin, reduced iron, thiamin mononitrate, riboflavin, folic acid), sugar, water, palm oil, vegetable shortening (soybean oil and palm oil with added mono- and diglycerides), yeast, contains 2% or less of each of the following: dextrose, salt, cornstarch, soy flour, monoglycerides, corn syrup, calcium carbonate, leavening (sodium acid pyrophosphate, baking soda), datem, soy lecithin, soybean oil, dried honey, cinnamon, calcium sulfate, agar, colored with extracts of annatto and turmeric, titanium dioxide (for color), natural and artificial flavor, enzymes, azodicarbonamide, preserved with calcium propionate, sodium propionate, and potassium sorbate
Because....?
Because I prefer to eat as clean as possible. I'm not 100% into clean eating. But I would like to eat as clean as I can.
Have you looked at the number of ingredients in your lean cuisine?
While I agree on the honeybun part (there are many ways to get a few hundred calories that offer more nutrient benefits), I also agree about the lean cuisine. Nothing "clean" about Lean Cuisines.4 -
Eat the dang honeybun! Or a nice big spoonful of peanut butter, or a wedge of cheese and some pita chips, or a handful of mixed nuts with some chocolate chips, or a bowl of ice cream, or any number of other things! None of these are 100% devoid of nutrition. All of them will help you get up to a decent calorie level for the day.6
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If you like to eat roasted veggies for lunch have you thought about adding some kind of fat or protein to "beef" it up a bit? Chicken, fish, avocado, even a side of quinoa or rice? You should be a eating a little more if you're truly only eating 900 a day.
I would check your logging first. Research on the myfitnesspal entries you're actually using, not all of them are accurate. Buy a food scale and weigh everything out. If it turns out you were correct then try eating more calorie dense foods to hit your goals. One of my favorite snacks is a serving of peanut butter over a banana. Home made smoothies are great way to drink your calories if you really just can't eat them.
As for the eating before bed thing, that's totally fine. I lost 50lbs about 5 years ago and I worked the night shift. I wouldn't eat dinner until around midnight and then I would go to bed right after. I still eat a snack before bed every night, I have a green smoothie and if it's a workout day I have a protein bar too.
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nicolepburgess91 wrote: »For the most part I try to avoid things with ingredient lists this long:
enriched flour (wheat flour, malted barley flour, niacin, reduced iron, thiamin mononitrate, riboflavin, folic acid), sugar, water, palm oil, vegetable shortening (soybean oil and palm oil with added mono- and diglycerides), yeast, contains 2% or less of each of the following: dextrose, salt, cornstarch, soy flour, monoglycerides, corn syrup, calcium carbonate, leavening (sodium acid pyrophosphate, baking soda), datem, soy lecithin, soybean oil, dried honey, cinnamon, calcium sulfate, agar, colored with extracts of annatto and turmeric, titanium dioxide (for color), natural and artificial flavor, enzymes, azodicarbonamide, preserved with calcium propionate, sodium propionate, and potassium sorbate
Thiamine, Riboflavin, Niacin, Pantothenic acid, Folate, Choline.
Guess what I just listed, OP!
Answer: I listed some of the ingredients in a banana. Not all of them. Only some of the vitamins.
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nicolepburgess91 wrote: »For the most part I try to avoid things with ingredient lists this long:
enriched flour (wheat flour, malted barley flour, niacin, reduced iron, thiamin mononitrate, riboflavin, folic acid), sugar, water, palm oil, vegetable shortening (soybean oil and palm oil with added mono- and diglycerides), yeast, contains 2% or less of each of the following: dextrose, salt, cornstarch, soy flour, monoglycerides, corn syrup, calcium carbonate, leavening (sodium acid pyrophosphate, baking soda), datem, soy lecithin, soybean oil, dried honey, cinnamon, calcium sulfate, agar, colored with extracts of annatto and turmeric, titanium dioxide (for color), natural and artificial flavor, enzymes, azodicarbonamide, preserved with calcium propionate, sodium propionate, and potassium sorbate
Oh noez:
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stevencloser wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »nicolepburgess91 wrote: »Tried30UserNames wrote: »You could add a honeybun. I don't know what that is, but if it's something you like and it fits in your calorie/nutrition goals, why not eat it?
Haha it was an exaggeration. It's like a giant breaded thing that's coated in gooey sugar. Totally not subjecting myself to that malarkey.
Why not? Under eating is unhealthy. If a honeybun fits your cals and macros then it's not doing you any harm.
If someone is eating at around 900 calories adding 300 calories of a nutrient poor (i.e. junk food) isn't going to provide adequate nutrition.
The closer one is to the lower acceptable daily calorie amount, the more nutrient dense their diet needs to be for adequate nutrition.
Getting enough calories is just as important as nutrients.
Nothing was said about the OP being unable to obtain/afford any certain type of food. Sure getting enough calories is important, but if someone is eating 900 calories a day and wants to get to 1200 a nutrient poor item like honeybun would be one of the least preferred choices.
Don't you think a diet consisting of mainly nutrient dense foods is especially important as one adapts a lower calorie eating plan?1 -
Just from experience. When I started, I ate "clean" and around the same amount of calories. Few things happened 1) my hair started falling out badly 2) I was miserable and weak 3) it didn't last. Removing any treats from my eating made me feel as if I was punishing myself so I would give up and quit. Feeding your body is just as important as restricting. I now feed my body so I have enough energy to exercise and I enjoy food. I don't think food has to be a reward but sure doesn't have to be punishment either. Life is too short to be miserable.9
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Op if you're not losing weight and it's been a month it's not because you're under-eating but since you're not gaining weight it's due to you eating at maintenance. The good thing is now you found out what you can eat to maintain your weight. Now all you have to do is reduce your calories a bit.
Tighten up your numbers and eat at a deficit eating the calories MyFitnessPal recommends you'll lose weight. If you're not using a food scale and just eating "clean" you might consider buying one.
Good luck!!4 -
xchocolategirl wrote: »Op if you're not losing weight and it's been a month it's not because you're under-eating but since you're not gaining weight it's due to you eating at maintenance. The good thing is now you found out what you can eat to maintain your weight. Now all you have to do is reduce your calories a bit.
Tighten up your numbers and eat at a deficit eating the calories MyFitnessPal recommends you'll lose weight. If you're not using a food scale and just eating "clean" you might consider buying one.
Good luck!!
She states she's only eating 900 calories. Food scale for sure. But she needs to lower calories, she's already too low...0 -
Steph38878 wrote: »xchocolategirl wrote: »Op if you're not losing weight and it's been a month it's not because you're under-eating but since you're not gaining weight it's due to you eating at maintenance. The good thing is now you found out what you can eat to maintain your weight. Now all you have to do is reduce your calories a bit.
Tighten up your numbers and eat at a deficit eating the calories MyFitnessPal recommends you'll lose weight. If you're not using a food scale and just eating "clean" you might consider buying one.
Good luck!!
She states she's only eating 900 calories. Food scale for sure. But she needs to lower calories, she's already too low...
But she's not losing weight... it's been a month food labels often underestimate calories, so she may be eating more than she actually thinks. For example, I'm 5'2 and MyFitnessPal mentioned that if I eat at 1200 calories I will lose 2 pounds a week. If I eat 900 calories a day I will be losing more than 2 pounds a week.
If Op is able to disclose her height and current weight we would be able to help her more. For now I'm going with she's eating more than she thinks and thus not losing weight. Even if the Op is 4'8, 25 pounds, and 155 pounds maintenance would be at 1800 calories.
As mentioned before she's eating at maintenance and thus not losing weight she needs a deficit to lose weight.
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Steph38878 wrote: »xchocolategirl wrote: »Op if you're not losing weight and it's been a month it's not because you're under-eating but since you're not gaining weight it's due to you eating at maintenance. The good thing is now you found out what you can eat to maintain your weight. Now all you have to do is reduce your calories a bit.
Tighten up your numbers and eat at a deficit eating the calories MyFitnessPal recommends you'll lose weight. If you're not using a food scale and just eating "clean" you might consider buying one.
Good luck!!
She states she's only eating 900 calories. Food scale for sure. But she needs to lower calories, she's already too low...
Yeah, she states that but it's not the case. She doesn't need to increase her calories or eat anything more nutrient dense because she's eating much more than she thinks.
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Packerjohn wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »nicolepburgess91 wrote: »Tried30UserNames wrote: »You could add a honeybun. I don't know what that is, but if it's something you like and it fits in your calorie/nutrition goals, why not eat it?
Haha it was an exaggeration. It's like a giant breaded thing that's coated in gooey sugar. Totally not subjecting myself to that malarkey.
Why not? Under eating is unhealthy. If a honeybun fits your cals and macros then it's not doing you any harm.
If someone is eating at around 900 calories adding 300 calories of a nutrient poor (i.e. junk food) isn't going to provide adequate nutrition.
The closer one is to the lower acceptable daily calorie amount, the more nutrient dense their diet needs to be for adequate nutrition.
so it is ok to chronically undereat if the filler calories are nutrient poor? That makes zero sense...3 -
Packerjohn wrote: »stevencloser wrote: »Packerjohn wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »nicolepburgess91 wrote: »Tried30UserNames wrote: »You could add a honeybun. I don't know what that is, but if it's something you like and it fits in your calorie/nutrition goals, why not eat it?
Haha it was an exaggeration. It's like a giant breaded thing that's coated in gooey sugar. Totally not subjecting myself to that malarkey.
Why not? Under eating is unhealthy. If a honeybun fits your cals and macros then it's not doing you any harm.
If someone is eating at around 900 calories adding 300 calories of a nutrient poor (i.e. junk food) isn't going to provide adequate nutrition.
The closer one is to the lower acceptable daily calorie amount, the more nutrient dense their diet needs to be for adequate nutrition.
Getting enough calories is just as important as nutrients.
Nothing was said about the OP being unable to obtain/afford any certain type of food. Sure getting enough calories is important, but if someone is eating 900 calories a day and wants to get to 1200 a nutrient poor item like honeybun would be one of the least preferred choices.
Don't you think a diet consisting of mainly nutrient dense foods is especially important as one adapts a lower calorie eating plan?
so if it comes down to a honey bun or nothing, then go with nothing? Still makes zero sense...
if the choice is under eating or poor nutrtion, poor nutrition is the better or the two poor choices..8 -
Maxematics wrote: »Steph38878 wrote: »xchocolategirl wrote: »Op if you're not losing weight and it's been a month it's not because you're under-eating but since you're not gaining weight it's due to you eating at maintenance. The good thing is now you found out what you can eat to maintain your weight. Now all you have to do is reduce your calories a bit.
Tighten up your numbers and eat at a deficit eating the calories MyFitnessPal recommends you'll lose weight. If you're not using a food scale and just eating "clean" you might consider buying one.
Good luck!!
She states she's only eating 900 calories. Food scale for sure. But she needs to lower calories, she's already too low...
Yeah, she states that but it's not the case. She doesn't need to increase her calories or eat anything more nutrient dense because she's eating much more than she thinks.
This is most likely true.5
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