Ladies - TOM question
natat326
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Hello, I've only had this app since the start of the month and have been doing pretty well with it. I'm down 7 lbs since starting but this week I've been doing exactly the same sticking to my calorie limits and exercising and the scales haven't budged I'm guessing it's because I'm due my period and I'm probably retaining water it's just so annoying checking the scales and it's not changed since Monday. Is this normal? Should I expect a drop when my period eventually comes or should I lower my calories? I've set targets for myself and have another 7 lbs to loose before the end of the month and really can't see that happening if I really have just maintained my weight this week feels like a waste of a week and it's put me in the worst mood ever. Do you guys normally maintain or gain a pound when it's your TOM even though you've been on plan? And if so should I expect to see a drop soon? Or do you think I'm maybe not recording my calorie intake properly?
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It's not uncommon for me to gain 2-3lbs right before my period. It comes easy though.
Depending on how much you have to lose, you have to keep in mind that weight loss is not always linear. You might not lose anything all week and them Boom!
Keep going, make sure you log as accurate as you can. It will happen2 -
1. Tom weight will go up for me about 5 lbs and then back down after my period .
2. 14 lbs a month is too much to expect for any but the most obease like over 400 lbs and your picture doesnt look like that.
3. They have weight trending apps out there if it makes it easier to view the trend.4 -
5 lbs oh my god that's so much! That definitely makes me feel better! I'm hoping it is just because of my period, I've got about 2 and a half stone to loose and I've been eating roughly 1300 calories a day sometimes a bit less sometimes a bit more and it's actually been easy I feel like I'm eating all the time and I've been at the gym about 3-4 times a week along with walking everyday and dropped half a stone in 2 weeks so I've not been restricting anything crazy it's naturally just coming off quick I guess because the past few months I've been eating so bad and I've got a bit to loose so it's probably just coming off quicker that's why I didn't think it's too much to expect 14lbs off in a month but a weight tracker app sounds like a good idea that way I can see if the time of the month is the reason for maintaining this week. Itll be only my third week on Monday so it just feels a bit soon for me to be maintaining weight even though I've been really good this week but I'll stick it out and if it doesn't change in the next few days I'll need to re evaluate how many calories I should be having0
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With TOM 5-6lbs has been my worst, when flying to visit my parents 10lbs of water retention has been my worst. All sorts of things can make you retain water it usually comes off not long after (I know exactly when because I spend a day peeing like mad). If all goes well usually with a little extra too (if I behave myself with the pms munchies).4
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I'm not sure why you would say you'd wait a few more days and if nothing changes you'll evaluate what you're doing. PPs just gave you examples of how weight fluctuates.
A couple of weeks is not a timeframe in which to make judgments about your weight. If you are going to make changes based on what your body does over that short a time frame, you're going to be making changes all the time - and frustrate yourself. Weight loss is not linear, often even more so when you are female and have fluctuations due to your cycle. You need to give a plan 4-6 weeks before making changes, and then change just one thing and wait another 4-6 weeks. That might seem like a long time now, but in the scheme of things is nothing.5 -
my Tom just started today and I'm already up 2 lbs. The weight usually goes away. But I just hate wasting so much time.2
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I showed absolutely no loss for 2 weeks while eating in a deficit... The week prior and the week during. The day it ended I was down another pound from my lowest. It's common. Just make sure to stay hydrated and wait it out. You'll easily fluctuate during your TOM.1
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I'm not sure why you would say you'd wait a few more days and if nothing changes you'll evaluate what you're doing. PPs just gave you examples of how weight fluctuates.
A couple of weeks is not a timeframe in which to make judgments about your weight. If you are going to make changes based on what your body does over that short a time frame, you're going to be making changes all the time - and frustrate yourself. Weight loss is not linear, often even more so when you are female and have fluctuations due to your cycle. You need to give a plan 4-6 weeks before making changes, and then change just one thing and wait another 4-6 weeks. That might seem like a long time now, but in the scheme of things is nothing.
I totally get that it's normal for weight to fluctuate but I just feel I should still see the scales fluctuating I tend to only track my weight by going with what it says on Monday mornings first thing but I've gotten into a bad habit of weighing myself everyday sometimes more than once but the scales have stayed the same exactly the same since Monday doesn't matter what time of day it is if I'm naked or fully clothed doesn't seem right to me. I'm going on holiday in august and set targets for myself that's why I'm stressing so bad but surely if it's not changed say by Wednesday I should think about changing something? That would be 10 days with no change at all I just don't want to waste anymore days overeating if that's the case but your right I'll get a better picture of how well it's working by the end of the month it's just easy to feel like it's a waste of time when the scales aren't changing even though I feel like they should be.0 -
lilysillycat wrote: »my Tom just started today and I'm already up 2 lbs. The weight usually goes away. But I just hate wasting so much time.
That's exactly how I feel like it's a waste of time! It's so annoying but I'm going to wait it out I always tend to get really bloated the week before and normally feel much better when I actually start my period so I'm hoping that's the reason for the scales not changing going by what other people have said that's what tends to happen and since they haven't went up and stayed the same I'm hoping I have lost a pound or 2 this week it's just not showing on the scales yet! If not then I'll have to make changes I don't have the patience for this right now haha hate being a female sometimes1 -
Relax weight progress is a slow and steady wins the race thing. Measure progress in weeks and months not days2
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I'm not sure why you would say you'd wait a few more days and if nothing changes you'll evaluate what you're doing. PPs just gave you examples of how weight fluctuates.
A couple of weeks is not a timeframe in which to make judgments about your weight. If you are going to make changes based on what your body does over that short a time frame, you're going to be making changes all the time - and frustrate yourself. Weight loss is not linear, often even more so when you are female and have fluctuations due to your cycle. You need to give a plan 4-6 weeks before making changes, and then change just one thing and wait another 4-6 weeks. That might seem like a long time now, but in the scheme of things is nothing.
I totally get that it's normal for weight to fluctuate but I just feel I should still see the scales fluctuating I tend to only track my weight by going with what it says on Monday mornings first thing but I've gotten into a bad habit of weighing myself everyday sometimes more than once but the scales have stayed the same exactly the same since Monday doesn't matter what time of day it is if I'm naked or fully clothed doesn't seem right to me. I'm going on holiday in august and set targets for myself that's why I'm stressing so bad but surely if it's not changed say by Wednesday I should think about changing something? That would be 10 days with no change at all I just don't want to waste anymore days overeating if that's the case but your right I'll get a better picture of how well it's working by the end of the month it's just easy to feel like it's a waste of time when the scales aren't changing even though I feel like they should be.
Sometimes, you can do everything right and stay within the plan and not lose anything for 3 weeks. Then all of a sudden, you get a 4 or 5 pound loss. So many factors impact scale weight that have absolutely nothing to do with fat loss.
It looks like you set a 14 pound target based upon how much you lost the first couple of weeks. Keep in mind that a large portion of the early loss was water and not fat. So, it's lost at a quicker rate. The loss will slow. It's not likely that you will lose 14 pounds of fat by the end of the month unless you are very obese.
If you continue to make adjustments and stress yourself out because of a goal that you have set for yourself, it is going to be a miserable few months for you. Weight loss is not linear. We don't lose in a straight line.
Also, the scale doesn't care if it is Monday or not. The thing about weight loss is that we don't always lose what we think we deserve to lose. You are stressing yourself out over something that you can't control (weight fluctuations). What you can control is trying to be patient and trust your numbers. If you are eating at a calorie deficit and have been losing, then you will continue to lose.... just maybe not every week like you think you should. Constantly lowering calories is not the answer. Patience and time are. I know that it can be difficult and frustrating mentally when results don't come at the rate you would like, but trust me, you are making yourself miserable for no good reason.
Good luck.6 -
I thought I was being summoned...nvmnd6
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Relax weight progress is a slow and steady wins the race thing. Measure progress in weeks and months not days
This was going to be my suggestion. OP you've lost SEVEN this week and hope to lose SEVEN more by in the next six days? I worry that you're trying to do too much. That said: I saw no losses until my period had come and gone.2 -
Some of that 7 pound you have lost may be water weight since that's more than you should be losing for your goals, the scale staying the same will be water retention for TOM and also your body getting over the initial drop, you will start losing again, weight loss isn't linear and water weight both exaggerates and masks loss (you will have lost fat this week just retained more water, just don't be disappointed if your weight loss slows down considerably, it is normal and healthy and sustaining a larger loss means you lose muscle as well as fat for your weight loss goals, don't throw the baby out with the bath water for a number on the scale, you should be looking at 1-1.5 pounds a week so as to not lose too much lean mass.
Good luck
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leejoyce31 wrote: »I'm not sure why you would say you'd wait a few more days and if nothing changes you'll evaluate what you're doing. PPs just gave you examples of how weight fluctuates.
A couple of weeks is not a timeframe in which to make judgments about your weight. If you are going to make changes based on what your body does over that short a time frame, you're going to be making changes all the time - and frustrate yourself. Weight loss is not linear, often even more so when you are female and have fluctuations due to your cycle. You need to give a plan 4-6 weeks before making changes, and then change just one thing and wait another 4-6 weeks. That might seem like a long time now, but in the scheme of things is nothing.
I totally get that it's normal for weight to fluctuate but I just feel I should still see the scales fluctuating I tend to only track my weight by going with what it says on Monday mornings first thing but I've gotten into a bad habit of weighing myself everyday sometimes more than once but the scales have stayed the same exactly the same since Monday doesn't matter what time of day it is if I'm naked or fully clothed doesn't seem right to me. I'm going on holiday in august and set targets for myself that's why I'm stressing so bad but surely if it's not changed say by Wednesday I should think about changing something? That would be 10 days with no change at all I just don't want to waste anymore days overeating if that's the case but your right I'll get a better picture of how well it's working by the end of the month it's just easy to feel like it's a waste of time when the scales aren't changing even though I feel like they should be.
Sometimes, you can do everything right and stay within the plan and not lose anything for 3 weeks. Then all of a sudden, you get a 4 or 5 pound loss. So many factors impact scale weight that have absolutely nothing to do with fat loss.
It looks like you set a 14 pound target based upon how much you lost the first couple of weeks. Keep in mind that a large portion of the early loss was water and not fat. So, it's lost at a quicker rate. The loss will slow. It's not likely that you will lose 14 pounds of fat by the end of the month unless you are very obese.
If you continue to make adjustments and stress yourself out because of a goal that you have set for yourself, it is going to be a miserable few months for you. Weight loss is not linear. We don't lose in a straight line.
Also, the scale doesn't care if it is Monday or not. The thing about weight loss is that we don't always lose what we think we deserve to lose. You are stressing yourself out over something that you can't control (weight fluctuations). What you can control is trying to be patient and trust your numbers. If you are eating at a calorie deficit and have been losing, then you will continue to lose.... just maybe not every week like you think you should. Constantly lowering calories is not the answer. Patience and time are. I know that it can be difficult and frustrating mentally when results don't come at the rate you would like, but trust me, you are making yourself miserable for no good reason.
Good luck.
Thanks for taking the time to write all that I really appreciate that. I thought I could loose between 12-14 lbs this month averaging about 2-3.5 lbs per week knowing that it comes off quick to begin with0 -
Sorry that posted when I wasn't finished typing .. so I worked it out based on what I've lost previously I've managed to do that in a month before healthily but from what others have said it looks like I'm way off I was just stressing that day and felt like my clothes were fitting better and felt lighter in the mornings it was just annoying not seeing the scale go down but I've been reading loads on here and now know that it doesn't always come off at a steady rate so I'm not too worried now I've dropped another lb since Sunday when I posted this so that's been enough to keep me from going mental but at least I know now that this is normal and not to stress out too much.
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Sabine_Stroehm wrote: »Relax weight progress is a slow and steady wins the race thing. Measure progress in weeks and months not days
This was going to be my suggestion. OP you've lost SEVEN this week and hope to lose SEVEN more by in the next six days? I worry that you're trying to do too much. That said: I saw no losses until my period had come and gone.
No I lost 7 in the first 2 weeks the third week I stayed the same and I'm now down to 8 lbs down and it's week 4 for me now I expected to loose 7 lbs in 2 weeks but the week I didn't loose anything messed that up for me and going by what other have said I aimed to loose too much in that space of time anyway but no I didn't expect to loose 7 in a week haha I wish I could but no unfortunately not0 -
I've gained upwards of 7 pounds. Give your body time.0
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I've been up 2ish lbs for the last 3 days. My periods arrived this morning, those 2lbs disappeared along with an extra 1/2lb. I'm down to the last lb or so till i hit goal weight, so i rejoice with every gram lost, as it's very, very sloooow going.
I use a weight tracking site called Trendweight, it smooths out the fluctuations, and helps you not to have a panic attack when the scale doesn't seem to be co-operating.
There are also phone apps:
Happyscale- iphone
Libra- Android.1 -
leejoyce31 wrote: »I'm not sure why you would say you'd wait a few more days and if nothing changes you'll evaluate what you're doing. PPs just gave you examples of how weight fluctuates.
A couple of weeks is not a timeframe in which to make judgments about your weight. If you are going to make changes based on what your body does over that short a time frame, you're going to be making changes all the time - and frustrate yourself. Weight loss is not linear, often even more so when you are female and have fluctuations due to your cycle. You need to give a plan 4-6 weeks before making changes, and then change just one thing and wait another 4-6 weeks. That might seem like a long time now, but in the scheme of things is nothing.
I totally get that it's normal for weight to fluctuate but I just feel I should still see the scales fluctuating I tend to only track my weight by going with what it says on Monday mornings first thing but I've gotten into a bad habit of weighing myself everyday sometimes more than once but the scales have stayed the same exactly the same since Monday doesn't matter what time of day it is if I'm naked or fully clothed doesn't seem right to me. I'm going on holiday in august and set targets for myself that's why I'm stressing so bad but surely if it's not changed say by Wednesday I should think about changing something? That would be 10 days with no change at all I just don't want to waste anymore days overeating if that's the case but your right I'll get a better picture of how well it's working by the end of the month it's just easy to feel like it's a waste of time when the scales aren't changing even though I feel like they should be.
Sometimes, you can do everything right and stay within the plan and not lose anything for 3 weeks. Then all of a sudden, you get a 4 or 5 pound loss. So many factors impact scale weight that have absolutely nothing to do with fat loss.
It looks like you set a 14 pound target based upon how much you lost the first couple of weeks. Keep in mind that a large portion of the early loss was water and not fat. So, it's lost at a quicker rate. The loss will slow. It's not likely that you will lose 14 pounds of fat by the end of the month unless you are very obese.
If you continue to make adjustments and stress yourself out because of a goal that you have set for yourself, it is going to be a miserable few months for you. Weight loss is not linear. We don't lose in a straight line.
Also, the scale doesn't care if it is Monday or not. The thing about weight loss is that we don't always lose what we think we deserve to lose. You are stressing yourself out over something that you can't control (weight fluctuations). What you can control is trying to be patient and trust your numbers. If you are eating at a calorie deficit and have been losing, then you will continue to lose.... just maybe not every week like you think you should. Constantly lowering calories is not the answer. Patience and time are. I know that it can be difficult and frustrating mentally when results don't come at the rate you would like, but trust me, you are making yourself miserable for no good reason.
Good luck.
Thanks for taking the time to write all that I really appreciate that. I thought I could loose between 12-14 lbs this month averaging about 2-3.5 lbs per week knowing that it comes off quick to begin with
Just to throw some quick calorie math in here. . . . 3.5 lbs a week is1750 calorie deficit a DAY. OP, you simply don't have that much to lose. Based on what you've said, you want to drop about 35lbs from the beginning of May (when I believe you began?) until your vacation at the end of August. That give you about 17 weeks. You could aim for 2lbs a week if you can get 1k calorie deficit a day (on average), and that would get you there but that will be tough to maintain as you get closer to your goal. It might come off quickly in the beginning, but you may need to reassess your goals as you get closer to your final weight. I'm not there yet, myself, but most veteran posters have said that the last 10 or so pounds are the hardest to lose. You may be better off revising your goal to something more realistic like a 1lb/wk and still enjoy your summer. You'll still be nearly 20 pound less fat by the time that vacation rolls around and you'll be a much healthier person than one who crash diets into 35 pounds in 17 weeks, IMO. Figure out how many calories you need to maintain, and then work out your deficit (-500 or -750) from there.
Don't worry about the scale so much. Fat loss all comes down to thermodynamics. If you burn 3500 more calories than you take in you WILL lose a pound of fat. The scale will show water, muscle, and fat loss, and is not to be trusted. If you track accurately, and you know that you're maintaining a deficit, the loss will eventually show up. Fluctuations happen and they can't be controlled, so you can't get worked up about them.1 -
competecompetecompete wrote: »This TOM fella sure is popular...
I think most women dislike his visits.9 -
Rebecca0224 wrote: »competecompetecompete wrote: »This TOM fella sure is popular...
I think most women dislike his visits.
...And he just does not listen and is very selfish! I've been telling him for years that i no longer need his services, but month after month he returns like clock work. I predict he will leave me alone once i am old, grey and no longer in my prime
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Sorry that posted when I wasn't finished typing .. so I worked it out based on what I've lost previously I've managed to do that in a month before healthily but from what others have said it looks like I'm way off I was just stressing that day and felt like my clothes were fitting better and felt lighter in the mornings it was just annoying not seeing the scale go down but I've been reading loads on here and now know that it doesn't always come off at a steady rate so I'm not too worried now I've dropped another lb since Sunday when I posted this so that's been enough to keep me from going mental but at least I know now that this is normal and not to stress out too much.
Thanks for helping me guys with all your replies
I'm glad you are better. Take care!0 -
Rebecca0224 wrote: »competecompetecompete wrote: »This TOM fella sure is popular...
I think most women dislike his visits.
Yeah he came knocking at my door this morning. I hate the guy, but what's a girl to do.4 -
competecompetecompete wrote: »This TOM fella sure is popular...
Really most of us just wish he would go away...1 -
competecompetecompete wrote: »This TOM fella sure is popular...
Really most of us just wish he would go away...
From time to time I've been really glad to see him.
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My advice is before you start just drink more water and eat less salt, that should help with the extra bloat and/or weight gain. Otherwise, just let nature takes its course and eventually that TOM weight will subside.0
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I've got to confess that there's something very satisfying about pissing out 7lb of water in two days after TOM; but not satisfying enough to make up for gaining it for the week before!4
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lilysillycat wrote: »my Tom just started today and I'm already up 2 lbs. The weight usually goes away. But I just hate wasting so much time.
You're not wasting any time. You're still eating at a deficit and burning fat... it just doesn't show up on the scale because you're retaining water.4
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