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ddaniellemariee7 wrote: »Update: I saw my doctor and he ran some blood tests. Normally I don't have enough iron and have to take supplements, we learned from the better food choices, the prescribed supplement, and the multi vitamin, that I actually had too much iron that was making me sick, it'll take time to get my iron levels where they need to be but at least now I have an answer and will be able to eat the right amount of calories.
I am glad you both figured out the issue. hopefully it gets easier for you from here!2 -
Sounds like your therapist is struggling with her own issues. I can't imagine any therapist thinking that what you are eating is okay and then to recommend those ridiculous limitations on top of that? If you like dairy, eat it. In fact, get the full fat stuff, that will help you with calories, plus supply a nice combination of protein, fats, and carbs. Do you like chocolate milk? Don't be afraid to use oils when cooking your eggs, or use an oil and vinegar mix for salad dressing. There are so many calorie rich foods that can help you. Look over this list:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10142490/a-list-of-calorie-dense-foods/p13 -
ddaniellemariee7 wrote: »if the list has words i dont know, i dont eat it
Would you consider the possibility that you are not knowledgeable enough as opposed to the food being 'bad' based on you not knowing these words?2 -
this therapist needs to be fired if they think there is nothing wrong with eating so little,Id stop worrying about trying to lose weight right now and try getting enough calories in first.even with iron supplements and multivitamins I dont see how you were making too much iron eating so little, unless you have an issue where your body makes too much?(forget what its called)0
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nutmegoreo wrote: »Sounds like your therapist is struggling with her own issues. I can't imagine any therapist thinking that what you are eating is okay and then to recommend those ridiculous limitations on top of that? If you like dairy, eat it. In fact, get the full fat stuff, that will help you with calories, plus supply a nice combination of protein, fats, and carbs. Do you like chocolate milk? Don't be afraid to use oils when cooking your eggs, or use an oil and vinegar mix for salad dressing. There are so many calorie rich foods that can help you. Look over this list:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10142490/a-list-of-calorie-dense-foods/p1
That's what i was thinking! I wonder how many pro-ana therapists are out there...
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Christine_72 wrote: »nutmegoreo wrote: »Sounds like your therapist is struggling with her own issues. I can't imagine any therapist thinking that what you are eating is okay and then to recommend those ridiculous limitations on top of that? If you like dairy, eat it. In fact, get the full fat stuff, that will help you with calories, plus supply a nice combination of protein, fats, and carbs. Do you like chocolate milk? Don't be afraid to use oils when cooking your eggs, or use an oil and vinegar mix for salad dressing. There are so many calorie rich foods that can help you. Look over this list:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10142490/a-list-of-calorie-dense-foods/p1
That's what i was thinking! I wonder how many pro-ana therapists are out there...
I was thinking recovered and now relapsed. Of course, that's just conjecture. It's not okay for her to be encouraging OP back towards these overrestrictive, low calorie habits. There's something not right there.2 -
cerise_noir wrote: »Is there a reason that you're cutting out dairy and prepackaged food? Also, just because an ingredient is hard to pronounce, it doesn't make it bad for you.
There are no bad foods, just bad relationships to food (and incorrect portions).
I'm actually lactose intolerant so it's just easier to cut it out instead of dealing with the issues if I eat it. Most of the words I can't read tend to be like things used to help the food last longer, and I wanted to cut down on sodium that is in a lot of prepackaged foods0 -
gebeziseva wrote: »ddaniellemariee7 wrote: »if the list has words i dont know, i dont eat it
Would you consider the possibility that you are not knowledgeable enough as opposed to the food being 'bad' based on you not knowing these words?
It's mostly foods with higher sodium or things used to make the food last longer. I look up a lot of words on food I don't know and if it's used to make it last longer. I'm just not a fan of it.0 -
ddaniellemariee7 wrote: »cerise_noir wrote: »Is there a reason that you're cutting out dairy and prepackaged food? Also, just because an ingredient is hard to pronounce, it doesn't make it bad for you.
There are no bad foods, just bad relationships to food (and incorrect portions).
I'm actually lactose intolerant so it's just easier to cut it out instead of dealing with the issues if I eat it. Most of the words I can't read tend to be like things used to help the food last longer, and I wanted to cut down on sodium that is in a lot of prepackaged foods
Those things should be the least of your worries right now. You need to get your calorie intake up to a reasonable level. Eating 450 calories of even the healthiest, most pure, organic, magically blessed food in the world is still worse for your health than sodium and preservatives.3 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »this therapist needs to be fired if they think there is nothing wrong with eating so little,Id stop worrying about trying to lose weight right now and try getting enough calories in first.even with iron supplements and multivitamins I dont see how you were making too much iron eating so little, unless you have an issue where your body makes too much?(forget what its called)
My body doesn't make enough iron and the doctor said taking too much and eating iron rich foods were making me sick because the supplements (i was getting 6x the amount i needed from supplements and vitamins) do make you sick if on an empty stomach but normally not to the point i was.0 -
ddaniellemariee7 wrote: »cerise_noir wrote: »Is there a reason that you're cutting out dairy and prepackaged food? Also, just because an ingredient is hard to pronounce, it doesn't make it bad for you.
There are no bad foods, just bad relationships to food (and incorrect portions).
I'm actually lactose intolerant so it's just easier to cut it out instead of dealing with the issues if I eat it. Most of the words I can't read tend to be like things used to help the food last longer, and I wanted to cut down on sodium that is in a lot of prepackaged foods
Those things should be the least of your worries right now. You need to get your calorie intake up to a reasonable level. Eating 450 calories of even the healthiest, most pure, organic, magically blessed food in the world is still worse for your health than sodium and preservatives.
The last two days have been better since I stopped taking the supplements, today and yesterday I was finally up to 900.0 -
ddaniellemariee7 wrote: »I have a "therapist" i see, but told me to lose weight and only eat if i'm hungry. I can't find foods that she deems "healthy" in high enough calories and currently she sees nothing wrong with my intake. Like I try to eat, but even when I think I'll get more in, I don't. She only wants me eating things without labels and it's hard when I can't ear enough. She was great for recovery but she's not helping now and I hate seeing that i'm not meeting the calorie intake with her list.
Why is therapist in quotes?
If she has food she deems 'healthy', does she have a published list we can look at? This sound kind of sketchy..0 -
ddaniellemariee7 wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »this therapist needs to be fired if they think there is nothing wrong with eating so little,Id stop worrying about trying to lose weight right now and try getting enough calories in first.even with iron supplements and multivitamins I dont see how you were making too much iron eating so little, unless you have an issue where your body makes too much?(forget what its called)
My body doesn't make enough iron and the doctor said taking too much and eating iron rich foods were making me sick because the supplements (i was getting 6x the amount i needed from supplements and vitamins) do make you sick if on an empty stomach but normally not to the point i was.
I know iron pills can make you sick on an empty stomach. I used to take them. so basically the drs overdosed you on iron? were they not monitoring your levels often? and most multivitamins dont contain much if any iron anymore. its crazy I would find different drs if it were me. because aside from the pills I dont see how you were eating a lot of iron rich foods eating only 450 calories0 -
ddaniellemariee7 wrote: »I have a "therapist" i see, but told me to lose weight and only eat if i'm hungry. I can't find foods that she deems "healthy" in high enough calories and currently she sees nothing wrong with my intake. Like I try to eat, but even when I think I'll get more in, I don't. She only wants me eating things without labels and it's hard when I can't ear enough. She was great for recovery but she's not helping now and I hate seeing that i'm not meeting the calorie intake with her list.
Why is therapist in quotes?
If she has food she deems 'healthy', does she have a published list we can look at? This sound kind of sketchy..
She's a therapist but is also a nutritionist but i dont think the two should be in the same. The list she gave me, was a word document that she made, it isn't like a tyipcal list that i had been given in the past.0 -
ddaniellemariee7 wrote: »ddaniellemariee7 wrote: »I have a "therapist" i see, but told me to lose weight and only eat if i'm hungry. I can't find foods that she deems "healthy" in high enough calories and currently she sees nothing wrong with my intake. Like I try to eat, but even when I think I'll get more in, I don't. She only wants me eating things without labels and it's hard when I can't ear enough. She was great for recovery but she's not helping now and I hate seeing that i'm not meeting the calorie intake with her list.
Why is therapist in quotes?
If she has food she deems 'healthy', does she have a published list we can look at? This sound kind of sketchy..
She's a therapist but is also a nutritionist but i dont think the two should be in the same. The list she gave me, was a word document that she made, it isn't like a tyipcal list that i had been given in the past.
find a registered dietitian. and a new therapist0 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »ddaniellemariee7 wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »this therapist needs to be fired if they think there is nothing wrong with eating so little,Id stop worrying about trying to lose weight right now and try getting enough calories in first.even with iron supplements and multivitamins I dont see how you were making too much iron eating so little, unless you have an issue where your body makes too much?(forget what its called)
My body doesn't make enough iron and the doctor said taking too much and eating iron rich foods were making me sick because the supplements (i was getting 6x the amount i needed from supplements and vitamins) do make you sick if on an empty stomach but normally not to the point i was.
I know iron pills can make you sick on an empty stomach. I used to take them. so basically the drs overdosed you on iron? were they not monitoring your levels often? and most multivitamins dont contain much if any iron anymore. its crazy I would find different drs if it were me. because aside from the pills I dont see how you were eating a lot of iron rich foods eating only 450 calories
The doctor gave me a prescription for iron pills and a multivitamin prescription that has iron in it, when he gave me the multivitamin my iron levels were still low and told me to take both, and didnt think it would have kicked in so to say as fast as it did. Hes a military doctor and tbh in my opiniom are pretty stupid anyway0 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »ddaniellemariee7 wrote: »ddaniellemariee7 wrote: »I have a "therapist" i see, but told me to lose weight and only eat if i'm hungry. I can't find foods that she deems "healthy" in high enough calories and currently she sees nothing wrong with my intake. Like I try to eat, but even when I think I'll get more in, I don't. She only wants me eating things without labels and it's hard when I can't ear enough. She was great for recovery but she's not helping now and I hate seeing that i'm not meeting the calorie intake with her list.
Why is therapist in quotes?
If she has food she deems 'healthy', does she have a published list we can look at? This sound kind of sketchy..
She's a therapist but is also a nutritionist but i dont think the two should be in the same. The list she gave me, was a word document that she made, it isn't like a tyipcal list that i had been given in the past.
find a registered dietitian. and a new therapist
That's what i am in the process of doing now, i see military doctors and the insurance doesnt see why i need two different people.0 -
You know, you could open your diet up a little bit. I'm sure your self-imposed restriction on packaged food isn't helping when your problem is that you need to get more varieties of food in your diet and not less. Simple-minded philosophies like "if the list has words i dont know, i dont eat it" sound good on a book blurb or in a blog, but they ignore the reality that we give comforting-sounding names to some things but not to others, even if both happen to be organic chemicals.
I'm sure you wouldn't eat any food that listed [(2E,4E,6E,8E)-3,7-Dimethyl-9-(2,6,6-trimethyl-1-cyclohexenyl)nona-2,4,6,8-tetraenyl] hexadecanoate on the label. But call it "Vitamin A" instead -- because that's what it is -- and I'm equally sure it'd be just fine.
That's not to say every complicated-sounding ingredient is truly benign, but the point is there's more to food safety than an easy vocabulary.1 -
ddaniellemariee7 wrote: »My body doesn't make enough iron
No one's body makes iron. It's a mineral, an elemental metal, and we must get it from our diets. The issue is that for some people, the body releases more iron than they take in. For reasons that should be obvious, this happens more often with women than with men.
But I'm glad you found the problem!
My previous reply was posted before I read the entire thread, but I'm leaving it as-is in case you'd like to take it under advisement anyway. Too much sodium is a valid concern, particularly if you're sensitive to it, but providing food with a longer shelf-life by other means has been a boon in many ways.2 -
ddaniellemariee7 wrote: »cerise_noir wrote: »Is there a reason that you're cutting out dairy and prepackaged food? Also, just because an ingredient is hard to pronounce, it doesn't make it bad for you.
There are no bad foods, just bad relationships to food (and incorrect portions).
I'm actually lactose intolerant so it's just easier to cut it out instead of dealing with the issues if I eat it. Most of the words I can't read tend to be like things used to help the food last longer, and I wanted to cut down on sodium that is in a lot of prepackaged foods
There are a lot of words in here that a lot of people probably can't read/pronounce, yet I don't see it as an unhealthy food:
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Smoothies can pack a pretty big calorie punch with little and easily digestable volume.
Get creative add avocados, chia seeds, bananas, mangos, tahini (sesame seed butter calorically dense), pumpkin seeds,
Also I don't want to get tmi with you but be sure your getting enough fiber. You could be kind of backed up which would make you feel full all the time. Just a thought.
Good luck hope your able to eat more.0
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