What terms/phrases wind you up about losing weight?
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"Don't eat anything that comes from a box, carton, bag, or can". Peanut butter? Rice? Beans? Veggies? Oatmeal? Yogurt?
Lose weight
"Oh kitten my pants don't fit I need to lose weight."
Vs
Loose weight
"Oh kitten there's a loose weight on the rack, watch your foot."
Or imagine a wrecking ball hurtling through space every time you want to use this word. Loose weight= nuh uh.
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Silly rules. "Only shop the outside aisles of the store" or "don't eat food with ingredients you can't pronounce". Or the one that made me want to bang my head against the wall - my sister's new rule is "don't eat anything our grandparents wouldn't recognize as food." Our grandfather was a chef and overweight his entire adult life. I suspect he could recognize pretty much anything on the market today as food.
THAT one. Man, if that worked, it would be awesome. First of all, I'm a pretty darn good reader. And thanks to the internet, anything I'm not sure about, I can look up. Then, once I can pronounce it, I can eat it all I want, right? XD7 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »The supermarket thing bugs me so much. It's infantilizing to suggest that people need some rule to figure out how to shop, which is NOT hard, I don't get how figuring out how to buy food that makes up a healthful diet requires silly special rules.
Also, as others have mentioned, lots of things on the outside aisle is "eat rarely" territory (like the deli and bakery and prepared foods and in mine soda and often alcohol). (Our fruits and veg are actually in a special section that isn't really on the perimeter.) Beyond this, many things on the inside aisles are quite healthful, like frozen fruit and veg -- and the idea that fresh veg is somehow superior, even out of season, is weird -- canned veg (including things like tomatoes), canned and dry beans, dry grains, if one eats them, lots of staples. Also, in mine, paper products and such things that I kind of need.
But mostly it annoys me because the idea of such rules suggests that we are idiots who can't navigate simple life basics like shopping. I cannot understand thinking shopping is hard or intimidating or overwhelming or needs a cheat sheet to figure it out.
Same with the "you can't pronounce" rule. I read labels carefully and tend not to buy things if I don't understand the ingredients (and to avoid plenty of ingredients that I have decided I don't want to eat), but if I don't understand what something is I'd never assume it must be therefore "bad," but I'd do research. Bragging about not eating what you can't pronounce strikes me as celebrating ignorance.
My grocery store has ice creams in the outside aisles, so I'm all good!
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I quite like the rule about not eating ingredients you can't pronounce. As a chemist it allows me to eat pretty much anything.
Have we had the obligatory ingredient list of an apple or a banana yet this thread?21 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »The supermarket thing bugs me so much. It's infantilizing to suggest that people need some rule to figure out how to shop, which is NOT hard, I don't get how figuring out how to buy food that makes up a healthful diet requires silly special rules.
Also, as others have mentioned, lots of things on the outside aisle is "eat rarely" territory (like the deli and bakery and prepared foods and in mine soda and often alcohol). (Our fruits and veg are actually in a special section that isn't really on the perimeter.) Beyond this, many things on the inside aisles are quite healthful, like frozen fruit and veg -- and the idea that fresh veg is somehow superior, even out of season, is weird -- canned veg (including things like tomatoes), canned and dry beans, dry grains, if one eats them, lots of staples. Also, in mine, paper products and such things that I kind of need.
But mostly it annoys me because the idea of such rules suggests that we are idiots who can't navigate simple life basics like shopping. I cannot understand thinking shopping is hard or intimidating or overwhelming or needs a cheat sheet to figure it out.
Same with the "you can't pronounce" rule. I read labels carefully and tend not to buy things if I don't understand the ingredients (and to avoid plenty of ingredients that I have decided I don't want to eat), but if I don't understand what something is I'd never assume it must be therefore "bad," but I'd do research. Bragging about not eating what you can't pronounce strikes me as celebrating ignorance.
Omg this reminds me from a scene in a movie where a large woman goes in to get her hair done and a stylist offers her a drink.
Stylist 1 "Afternoon ma'am, can I offer you a cappuccino?"
Customer "Oh no honey, I don't eat or drink nothing I can't spell."
Stylist 2 "Well then you must be the spelling be champ!"7 -
"Eat more fat, it satiates you", no it bloody doesn't, at least for me. I get my fat (and protein) requirements but after that everything else is going straight to carbs. Fat is calorically dense as hell just weigh out a tablespoon of peanut butter yet it does absolutely nothing to fill me up. Adding sticks of butter and oil to meals just seems so counterproductive to me, you'll hit your caloric limits real quick doing that.14
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Yes, any generalizations about what is filling that are stated as if they were a universal rule drive me crazy.10
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nosebag1212 wrote: »"Eat more fat, it satiates you", no it bloody doesn't, at least for me. I get my fat (and protein) requirements but after that everything else is going straight to carbs. Fat is calorically dense as hell just weigh out a tablespoon of peanut butter yet it does absolutely nothing to fill me up. Adding sticks of butter and oil to meals just seems so counterproductive to me, you'll hit your caloric limits real quick doing that.
Samesies. I can add a tablespoon of olive oil to this salad or veg saute or whatever or I can have a pita? Bread every time.2 -
So I just walked into my local grocery store and if to reference this discussion when you turn right at the door there's immediately (so on the perimeter) a huge shelf of candy--Sour Patch Kids, M&Ms, bunch of others. And walking past that is some flavored water and then (beats me why) some beer and vodka. Then it turns into seasonal stuff, which is currently all about grilling and the Cubs.4
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Definitely anything that suggests certain foods are magical, supernatural, medicinal, not natural, frankenfood, junk food, are engineered to {insert some conspiracy here}, are divinely intended to {insert some teleological argument here}, etc etc.
Food snobbery really annoys me.
Lecturing "poor people" about their diet for spending the little money they have on calorie-dense shelf-stable/freezer food instead of on calorie-sparse food that spoils quickly, and then acting like they do this because they're idiots with their money/food stamps. That whole conversation is grating.
An aside, but straw manning people who say "muscle weighs more than fat" by arguing against them as if they said "a pound of muscle weighs more than a pound of fat" is also pretty grating.
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'nuts are good source of protein'.
I think that's the worse for me, lol. That, and 'you're probably gaining muscle' on 1200 calories.
The perimeter of the store thing just makes me laugh though - my stores have their bakery section on the perimeter, most of the time. Enough said...
'need motivation'. Sorry, nobody can help you with that.
And 'skinny fat'. I shake my head at what people consider 'skinny fat'. No, if you're at the bottom of the healthy BMI for your height, there's not even a remote chance that you are 'skinny fat'.
Tired of skinny fat. IMHO its become the catchall description for anyone who wants to lose weight but not develop a noticeable amount of muscle mass. Some people actually do want or feel the waifish look, a softer or curvier look, or dare I say a "dad bod" is good enough for them.10 -
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Anything Dr Oz says gets me wound up.14
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Loosing "weight" bugs me. I don't want to loose weight I want to loose fat and inches.0
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InkAndApples wrote: »I quite like the rule about not eating ingredients you can't pronounce. As a chemist it allows me to eat pretty much anything.
Have we had the obligatory ingredient list of an apple or a banana yet this thread?
and if I have a lisp and cant pronounce spinach, I shouldn't eat it??
Silly rule is really silly.
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fitoverfortymom wrote: »Starvation mode and plateaus and any absolutes.
Why do you hate the word plateau? They're a real (and annoying) thing!
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Yup.'nuts are good source of protein'.
I think that's the worse for me, lol. That, and 'you're probably gaining muscle' on 1200 calories.
The perimeter of the store thing just makes me laugh though - my stores have their bakery section on the perimeter, most of the time. Enough said...
'need motivation'. Sorry, nobody can help you with that.
And 'skinny fat'. I shake my head at what people consider 'skinny fat'. No, if you're at the bottom of the healthy BMI for your height, there's not even a remote chance that you are 'skinny fat'.
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A moment on the lips, a lifetime on the hips.
Pretty sure that's not how bodies work yo.10 -
nosebag1212 wrote: »"Eat more fat, it satiates you", no it bloody doesn't, at least for me. I get my fat (and protein) requirements but after that everything else is going straight to carbs. Fat is calorically dense as hell just weigh out a tablespoon of peanut butter yet it does absolutely nothing to fill me up. Adding sticks of butter and oil to meals just seems so counterproductive to me, you'll hit your caloric limits real quick doing that.
Amen and amen!!!1 -
kristikitter wrote: »A moment on the lips, a lifetime on the hips.
Pretty sure that's not how bodies work yo.
I understand the idea behind that one though. Might not be a lifetime, but it's still 4 days of deficit for me to make up for a 1200 calorie dessert!
Now 'nothing tastes as good as skinny feels'... those people must not like food very much.MelanieCN77 wrote: »nosebag1212 wrote: »"Eat more fat, it satiates you", no it bloody doesn't, at least for me. I get my fat (and protein) requirements but after that everything else is going straight to carbs. Fat is calorically dense as hell just weigh out a tablespoon of peanut butter yet it does absolutely nothing to fill me up. Adding sticks of butter and oil to meals just seems so counterproductive to me, you'll hit your caloric limits real quick doing that.
Samesies. I can add a tablespoon of olive oil to this salad or veg saute or whatever or I can have a pita? Bread every time.
Haha same here.5 -
kristikitter wrote: »A moment on the lips, a lifetime on the hips.
Pretty sure that's not how bodies work yo.
Oh, yeah. Hate this.0 -
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I'm picky about how I word some things but not others. While I would not use "cheat" to describe my high calorie meals I have no problem using "losing weight". Probably because the former comes from a place that can potentially affect my dieting negatively but not the latter. Dieting automatically feels harder if I need to "cheat" on it, even if I'm eating the same calories so I try to avoid that mindset. As for weight loss, I want to lose weight, by losing weight I will automatically lose fat. Not being obsessed with the scale, knowing that I'm in a calorie deficit, and having a large amount to lose will guarantee that I will lose weight, fat, and inches, so I'm not too picky about what I call this process.4
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nosebag1212 wrote: »"Eat more fat, it satiates you", no it bloody doesn't, at least for me. I get my fat (and protein) requirements but after that everything else is going straight to carbs. Fat is calorically dense as hell just weigh out a tablespoon of peanut butter yet it does absolutely nothing to fill me up. Adding sticks of butter and oil to meals just seems so counterproductive to me, you'll hit your caloric limits real quick doing that.
Same here. I see people posting
"I'm eating 1200 calories/day and I'm so hungry!"
Many will ask the OP's stats to see if limiting to 1200 calories is necessary.
But then someone will post "Stay on 1200 calories/day but eat nothing but protein and green veggies and you won't be hungry"
In other words, try to be even more virtuous.
grrr!
If I eat a plain broiled chicken breast or a tub of nonfat Greek yogurt, it does NOT make me satisfied. Why not? It's full of protein and by that rule I should be satisfied. Noooo...I'll stick with my smoked salmon on Dave's Killer Bread for breakfast.5 -
Around the edges of my grocery store, in order, I can buy:
Toilet paper and light bulbs
Dog food
Cat litter
Beer
More beer
Sodapop
Candy (bagged brand-name candy)
Candy (bulk)
Nuts and seeds (bulk)
Milk and eggs
Lemonaid and juice
Butter and sour cream
THE WALL OF YOGURTS (most of it sweetened. Why is all yogurt so full of sugar? Yogurt is not a health food, guys)
Cheese, tortillas, lunchmeat, hotdogs
More cheese, but fancier.
OH LOOK< FINALLY WE"RE AT THE MEAT SECTION!
More meat in bigger containers.
Prepared deli foods (pasta salads, coleslaw etc)
FISH
Sushi
Sub sandwiches
Donuts. And bread. But mostly donuts and bagels and muffins and did I mention donuts?
CAKE!!! FANCY DECORATED CAKES!!!
Pizza
Coffee and/or fancy coffee
Notice anything missing from that list? Oh, yeah, VEGETABLES and FRUITS, which are center-middle.9 -
That chunk of time literally everyone and their mother were "thriving". tHrive was the answer to everything. Thrive cured everything! Thrive was the unicorn of the universe. However, it fizzled. No one even thrives on my newsfeed anymore? What happened to all the thrivers?
They all made their way to my newsfeed on Facebook. I keep them around to laugh at them.
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"no pain, no gain" this is literally what I see when my friends post their gym pics on social medias... worst thing is they've only went there once and after about maybe a week i see them drinking beers and being incredibly lazy1
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since I have been on these boards I seem to get irrationally angry when people say they are 'being good' or they go on about 'bad foods' haha
I hate that too! I have a friend who will say, "I was bad today, I ate a slice or two of pizza for lunch", drives me nuts when I hear talk like that. No bad food, it is just food. Eat in moderation and having one or two slices of pizza imo is moderation.3 -
- this one is slightly irrational on my part, but I find it incredibly frustrating: it irritates me that as a 5'5, 139 lbs woman aged 41, I need to consistently walk about 11,000 steps a day to bring my calorie expenditure just to 2,000 or so calories. I am intensely jealous of taller, heavier and more muscular people who can eat more and not gain weight. Because I love eating. I also want to scream when older shorter women mention their total daily calorie expenditure is 1,500, just because of the sheer injustice of it.
I don't think it's irrational at all. Granted, I get a lot more calories than you...but I get very frustrated that my husband gets so many more calories than me. In my defense, we're the same height and I actually weigh more (which sucks) so one would think we'd get about the same. But he also is more active simply by the nature of our jobs and for some reason I have yet to figure out his fitbit gives him a lot more steps, even if we spend the whole day together! It's just very annoying to have him with a thousand freaking exercise calories when I'm down to eating a carrot.
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