What terms/phrases wind you up about losing weight?
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LadyLilion wrote: »"It's not a diet it's a lifestyle change"
I wonder if in a few years people will be saying "no dessert for me, I'm lifestyling"
But it IS a lifestyle change. Going from sitting in front of the TV and eating Dairy Queen 3x a week to taking evening walks and cooking healthy food and actually paying attention to your diet (noun, not verb) while avoiding 1300 calorie desserts you freaking LOVE - takes a considerable change in your actual lifestyle - believe me. And if you go back to your former lifestyle, you gain it back.
Yes!3 -
When the Doc says "Good luck with the diet!". Makes me wanna throttle him.
I can't even baby-feline imagine how much doctors get tiny-kitty tired of giving weight-loss info to people who swear to lose, and instead come back in 6 months just as fat or fatter, with a boatload of lame rationalizations/excuses. How docs can even remotely remain polite and professional - this escapes me.
This is one reason my A&P professor quit practicing on live people and became a forensic pathologist. LOL2 -
lynn_glenmont wrote: »tlanger251 wrote: »I hate the word "journey" in the same way I hate when someone says, "the moon must be full." ummm... you do know that the moon is "always full" right????
So you assume that when people say "the moon must be full," they mean "the heavenly wolf that pursues the moon goddess and consumes her must have vomited her back up," rather than "it must be that point in the lunar month when the entire surface of the moon we can see from earth is reflecting sunlight toward us"?
I'm a nurse. To me it means, "The ER will be batshit crazy tonight."26 -
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- this one is slightly irrational on my part, but I find it incredibly frustrating: it irritates me that as a 5'5, 139 lbs woman aged 41, I need to consistently walk about 11,000 steps a day to bring my calorie expenditure just to 2,000 or so calories. I am intensely jealous of taller, heavier and more muscular people who can eat more and not gain weight. Because I love eating. I also want to scream when older shorter women mention their total daily calorie expenditure is 1,500, just because of the sheer injustice of it
As a 5'3" woman, I agree with this on a spiritual level.7 -
rightoncommander wrote: »clicketykeys wrote: »"There is a lot of research that shows" or "there are studies that show" when links to or titles of said research/studies are not provided.
It remains a mild irritation until someone claims that the woo they're spouting can significantly improve a major life condition. That's what gets me het up.
I'm confused, do you object when people "spout woo" and claim that it's backed up by research, or do you insist that every post on MFP that mentions research should have a bibliography and be peer-reviewed?!
I rarely (if ever) object or insist in either case. However, if you're going to bother to claim that your point is supported by research, it takes less than a minute to open a new tab or window and use your search engine to find a link to a peer-reviewed article or five. If we ALL made the attempt to provide the research we're claiming, we'd all be better informed.
Saying that only woo-spouting posts should have research would be foolish and ineffective, because
nobody ever thinks that the ideas they're spouting are wooey.
I'm not on here for that reason at all. I eat to gain muscle mass and fuel my workouts.nosebag1212 wrote: »Every time I see a thread titled "can't eat enough calories, please help". Are you *kitten* kidding me? The sole reason you're on here is because you managed to eat more than enough for an extended period of time to get fat in the first place, makes me rage.
Eating enough calories in a day is often an issue for me because I have to schedule extra food around coaching, working, teaching, lifting, etc...
/First_World_Problem
But I understand your point with most {overweight} people.
Depends what the previous commenter meant by 'here.' This IS the "General Diet and Weight LOSS Help" forum
- this one is slightly irrational on my part, but I find it incredibly frustrating: it irritates me that as a 5'5, 139 lbs woman aged 41, I need to consistently walk about 11,000 steps a day to bring my calorie expenditure just to 2,000 or so calories. I am intensely jealous of taller, heavier and more muscular people who can eat more and not gain weight. Because I love eating. I also want to scream when older shorter women mention their total daily calorie expenditure is 1,500, just because of the sheer injustice of it.
I don't think it's irrational at all to find that frustrating. Someone taller can eat more, move less, and still maintain - or even lose. So it's not equal, and that inequality does not seem to be in your favor. Frustration is a 100% valid response.2 -
I'm on a diet as opposed to it's a lifestyle change. Diets don't work in the long run -1
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[quote= "I've gained 5 lbs this week, but I know not to worry because it's all muscle"
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hahaha - I only WISH it was that easy to gain 5 lbs of muscle!
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Loose.
Another thread with this in the title.
It ain't that hard folks.9 -
So that's how I got fat!11111spiriteagle99 wrote: »Loose/lose just makes me laugh. I have this visual image of someone gratefully or even prayerfully loosing all their fat out into the universe, where it settles on some poor unsuspecting soul, who must then either loose it again into the ether or just accept the gift that the universe gave them. Kinda like the old cartoons of the babies waiting in heaven for the storks to drop them into the houses below.
:laugh:
I imagine adipose from Doctor Who.
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Just remembered one that does annoy me, irrationally so. I don't know why, but I don't like "for you", as in "good for you" or "bad for you" and such. Logically, I know what people are saying but it just grinds my nerves.1
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"Starvation Mode" (and what people think it means)
I just saw my trigger in another thread. It's not a word so much as the mythological way it's applied to "I'm not losing weight, but I'm in deficit. Is it Starvation Mode?" The answer is NO. It will always be NO.
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WendyLeigh1119 wrote: »"Starvation Mode" (and what people think it means)
I just saw my trigger in another thread. It's not a word so much as the mythological way it's applied to "I'm not losing weight, but I'm in deficit. Is it Starvation Mode?" The answer is NO. It will always be NO.
Or the new person posting for the first time, telling someone the reason they aren't losing is because they are in "starvation mode" and their body is trying to hang on to the fat.2 -
For me it's the people who arrive in the forums and then start the 1000th "Is Sugar Bad?" (or Carbs, or Fat, or Diet Soda or whatever) thread without using the search feature first to discover that this has already been discussed 1001 times.
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cerise_noir wrote: »
So that's how I got fat!11111spiriteagle99 wrote: »Loose/lose just makes me laugh. I have this visual image of someone gratefully or even prayerfully loosing all their fat out into the universe, where it settles on some poor unsuspecting soul, who must then either loose it again into the ether or just accept the gift that the universe gave them. Kinda like the old cartoons of the babies waiting in heaven for the storks to drop them into the houses below.
:laugh:
I imagine adipose from Doctor Who.
They are my friends!3 -
- cheat day/ meal - so frustrating and self-hating. Of course everyone will have a bigger meal every now and then, it's perfectly normal. No cheating involved.
- Lol. Ok, I'm showing my age here (an ancient 41 year old here), but why do people feel the urge to write lol in random places in a sentence? For example "I am at 180lbs now and really need to get to 120lbs lol". Do some people's keyboards just randomly dispense the word?
- People wanting to quit coffee, but simultaneously looking for natural magical drinks that will speed up their metabolism. That one really stumps me. That's exactly what coffee is, a natural way of speeding up your metabolism, and it's delicious, and it makes you more alert, and it's delicious, and it keeps you awake, and it's delicious. Yet so many "health conscious" people stop drinking coffee. I understand that if you used to drink it with tons of cream and sugar you may want to change how you drink it, but there's nothing inherently wrong with coffee.
- this one is slightly irrational on my part, but I find it incredibly frustrating: it irritates me that as a 5'5, 139 lbs woman aged 41, I need to consistently walk about 11,000 steps a day to bring my calorie expenditure just to 2,000 or so calories. I am intensely jealous of taller, heavier and more muscular people who can eat more and not gain weight. Because I love eating. I also want to scream when older shorter women mention their total daily calorie expenditure is 1,500, just because of the sheer injustice of it.
- people who only need to lose moderate amounts of weight but want to lose 2lbs or more per week. Do those people not understand how insanely hard it is to achieve and sustain a deficit of 1,000 or more calories a day if you are not that big to begin with? I found even a deficit of 500 calories difficult to sustain and switched to an even slower rate of weight loss fairly early in my journey (Ha! I said journey!)
Wow. You so angry lol
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martinemarbella wrote: »I'm sure this won't go down too well but my personal bete noire is 'my journey'. Makes me cringe!
YES!! This drives me insane! You aren't on a "journey". It's fricken' work. The other thing that drives me nuts is "shifting" weight. Weight doesn't "shift". You either lose it or gain it.
"Shifting" is common UK usage. Don't sweat it.
"Journey" Really? I sure as hell don't intend this to be a commute. A voyage, maybe, but I ain't going back.5 -
"I fell off the bandwagon". No. You fall off the wagon. You jump on the bandwagon. They are two different expressions. At least they used to be.
Loose.
Motivation, not being able to find it and needing others to help them find it. I have never understood this. If you aren't able to find motivation, how in the world did you find MFP? Deciding to lose weight/get fit is motivation - what you actually need is discipline.
"I lost 4500 pounds in three weeks" or some other numbers that aren't healthy - them saying it bugs me, but the tons of people congratulating them and asking them how they did it makes me loose my mind.18 -
The OPs who come along and complain they're not losing, when the threads go one of multiple ways:
a) they refuse to give any stats or avoid mentioning their weight (sometimes this is an eating disorder red flag)
b) they insist they're doing everything right, only it turns out they're not using a scale, but they insist they don't need one (pro tip: if you're not losing, you're not doing it right and probably need a scale!)
c) it turns out they've actually lost x number of pounds (so you ARE losing) but
d) they're complaining they're not losing "fast enough", and it turns out they're actually losing at a healthy rate, but they've got stupidly unrealistic Biggest Loser-style expectations (like 10lbs a week or something)
e) the ones who refuse to accept that they are simply not in a caloric deficit and insist they must be some kind of special snowflake who defies the laws of thermodynamics.
There are more.25 -
Help! Eating 1200 calories a day and can't loose wait even though I eat clean and organic and keto! I don't use a scale, I guesstimate the butter for my bulletproof coffee but I know I'm accurate. Dont you dare accuse me of lying. Am I in starvation mode? Should I eat more? Or am i gaining muscle? Should I take a break to reset my matabulism?54
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Help! Eating 1200 calories a day and can't loose wait even though I eat clean and organic and keto! I don't use a scale, I guesstimate the butter for my bulletproof coffee but I know I'm accurate. Dont you dare accuse me of lying. Am I in starvation mode? Should I eat more? Or am i gaining muscle? Should I take a break to reset my matabulism?
An amusing collaboration of everything said here. Well done!6 -
cerise_noir wrote: »
So that's how I got fat!11111spiriteagle99 wrote: »Loose/lose just makes me laugh. I have this visual image of someone gratefully or even prayerfully loosing all their fat out into the universe, where it settles on some poor unsuspecting soul, who must then either loose it again into the ether or just accept the gift that the universe gave them. Kinda like the old cartoons of the babies waiting in heaven for the storks to drop them into the houses below.
:laugh:
I imagine adipose from Doctor Who.
That's exactly how I picture loose weight - adipose running around causing chaos as people frantically try to catch them.
"Looking for motivational friends" posts with zero info or context (and that general ilk) bother me, mainly because I don't understand how random people you've never met or had a meaningful conversation with can either motivate or support you. But then I hate people in general so that may explain it.12 -
Help! Eating 1200 calories a day and can't loose wait even though I eat clean and organic and keto! I don't use a scale, I guesstimate the butter for my bulletproof coffee but I know I'm accurate. Dont you dare accuse me of lying. Am I in starvation mode? Should I eat more? Or am i gaining muscle? Should I take a break to reset my matabulism?
You aren't drinking enough green tea. If you alternate green tea with ACV you'll boost your metabolism, kick-start your diet and the weight will fall off.15 -
Silly rules. "Only shop the outside aisles of the store" or "don't eat food with ingredients you can't pronounce". Or the one that made me want to bang my head against the wall - my sister's new rule is "don't eat anything our grandparents wouldn't recognize as food." Our grandfather was a chef and overweight his entire adult life. I suspect he could recognize pretty much anything on the market today as food.12
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The supermarket thing bugs me so much. It's infantilizing to suggest that people need some rule to figure out how to shop, which is NOT hard, I don't get how figuring out how to buy food that makes up a healthful diet requires silly special rules.
Also, as others have mentioned, lots of things on the outside aisle is "eat rarely" territory (like the deli and bakery and prepared foods and in mine soda and often alcohol). (Our fruits and veg are actually in a special section that isn't really on the perimeter.) Beyond this, many things on the inside aisles are quite healthful, like frozen fruit and veg -- and the idea that fresh veg is somehow superior, even out of season, is weird -- canned veg (including things like tomatoes), canned and dry beans, dry grains, if one eats them, lots of staples. Also, in mine, paper products and such things that I kind of need.
But mostly it annoys me because the idea of such rules suggests that we are idiots who can't navigate simple life basics like shopping. I cannot understand thinking shopping is hard or intimidating or overwhelming or needs a cheat sheet to figure it out.
Same with the "you can't pronounce" rule. I read labels carefully and tend not to buy things if I don't understand the ingredients (and to avoid plenty of ingredients that I have decided I don't want to eat), but if I don't understand what something is I'd never assume it must be therefore "bad," but I'd do research. Bragging about not eating what you can't pronounce strikes me as celebrating ignorance.14 -
On the idea that "in moderation" lacks context, no, it really doesn't, and I bet most people would be willing to explain what they mean by it if asked.
What I mean by it, basically, is in amounts or frequency that doesn't interfere with any other goals, like appropriate calories or nutrient needs, and allows for a sensible, varied diet.
Why I prefer that to such things as "good food" and "bad food" is that really all meals tend to be some combination of lower and higher cal items, some that are good for accent, some that are more main dish focused. If I were to classify foods as "bad" and try to avoid them, where would you draw the line? Because including some higher cal foods either occasionally (bacon, pulled pork) or regularly, but in smaller amounts (butter, cheese, olive oil) seems to me to be quite sensible, and a diet that's 100% food that's as nutrient dense as possible for the calories unnecessarily limiting (and boring and IMO unsustainable for me).
So, there's necessarily some kind of moderation concept being applied, which is met if one's overall diet meets nutrient needs (which is more about what you DO eat) and calories.
I ate a high cal but nutrient dense restaurant meal -- rack of lamb, baby kale, strawberries, goat cheese as the main components, plus various added fats I am sure -- last night. Moderation to me means understanding that that's high cal (because restaurant meal) and not doing it every night and instead fitting it in my overall week.
Oh, and related to this, one thing that bugs me is the idea that restaurant meals must involve inferior food or nutrition (or that "processed" -- meaning foods cooked by someone other than you -- must. No, that's a terribly general term.)6 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »The supermarket thing bugs me so much. It's infantilizing to suggest that people need some rule to figure out how to shop, which is NOT hard, I don't get how figuring out how to buy food that makes up a healthful diet requires silly special rules.
You know, you should be right. But I am often dumbfounded at what I see when people post their 'I'm not losing' threads, then open their diaries. My eating is far from perfect, but I have some concept that I need some vegetables or protein or whatever.3 -
LadyLilion wrote: »"It's not a diet it's a lifestyle change" I wonder if in a few years people will be saying "no dessert for me, I'm lifestyling"
But it IS a lifestyle change. Going from sitting in front of the TV and eating Dairy Queen 3x a week to taking evening walks and cooking healthy food and actually paying attention to your diet (noun, not verb) while avoiding 1300 calorie desserts you freaking LOVE - takes a considerable change in your actual lifestyle - believe me. And if you go back to your former lifestyle, you gain it back.
Hmm. Related to this, I do hate the term "journey" for reasons others mentioned, but I have 0 issues if someone says "I needed a lifestyle change" or "for me, this is a lifestyle change," for the types of reasons you mentioned. For me, when I first figured out how to cook regularly and fit exercise into my life, that was a lifestyle change somewhat -- not completely, most of my lifestyle remained the same, but somewhat. Back at the beginning of '14 when I got active again, however, I saw it as regaining my active lifestyle, not a change.
What bugs me is when people say "it's not a diet, it's a lifestyle change" as if that applied to everyone successful. Or "diets fail, lifestyle changes don't" or some such. Because the truth is that not everyone goes from sedentary to active or was eating lots of fast food or not paying attention to nutrition. The main reason I gained (beyond the activity thing, which was a factor) was that I'd stress eat stupid stuff at my office and I'd carelessly not pay attention to portions much, including of foods I don't much care about, like starchy sides. So what I really needed to do was cut out the extra-meal eating at the office and watch portions. It really didn't feel like that much of a change at all, other than learning to deal with stress better. So it's not true that it can't succeed unless it's a lifestyle change.3 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »The supermarket thing bugs me so much. It's infantilizing to suggest that people need some rule to figure out how to shop, which is NOT hard, I don't get how figuring out how to buy food that makes up a healthful diet requires silly special rules.
You know, you should be right. But I am often dumbfounded at what I see when people post their 'I'm not losing' threads, then open their diaries. My eating is far from perfect, but I have some concept that I need some vegetables or protein or whatever.
I don't disagree, really, but I think everyone knows they need some vegetables and that choosing not to eat them isn't that they couldn't figure out how to shop or didn't know to eat them, but a choice, because they think they don't like them or don't much care about nutrition.
(Protein is more complicated, as some people seem to really believe that protein is not that important. But still I think it's about preferences, not that shopping is difficult, which it is not.)
I also remembered that another healthful option in the interior is frozen fish, which is in the middle at TJ's. (That "rule" is really such a pet peeve!)
So to sum up, I don't think anyone eats a poor diet because supermarkets are so hard they need to be told simplistic rules about how to navigate them. And in the off chance that some people were so confused that they needed such rules, I don't think they should assert that this is the One True Way to shop to others (who likely eat perfectly healthful diets using whatever portions of the supermarket they like).
During this time of the year, I get my produce (and always I get my meat) from sources other than the supermarket, so I mostly buy stuff from the interior, so that's an extra reason why I think the rule is odd.0 -
'nuts are good source of protein'.
I think that's the worse for me, lol. That, and 'you're probably gaining muscle' on 1200 calories.
The perimeter of the store thing just makes me laugh though - my stores have their bakery section on the perimeter, most of the time. Enough said...
'need motivation'. Sorry, nobody can help you with that.
And 'skinny fat'. I shake my head at what people consider 'skinny fat'. No, if you're at the bottom of the healthy BMI for your height, there's not even a remote chance that you are 'skinny fat'.10
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