Ketogenic Diet

roz_of_2_boys
roz_of_2_boys Posts: 14 Member
edited November 19 in Health and Weight Loss
Who here is doing keto? What are your results?

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  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
    edited June 2017
    Most keto'ers are in the keto or Low Carber Daily MFP groups. http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-lcd-group They are a helpful bunch.

    I've done keto for most of the past couple of years. I lost 40lbs within the first 6 months, with most of it in the first 4 months, and then maintained. I regained close to 10 lbs when my health went a bit off but now that it has been addressed, I am steadily relosing the rest.

    I'm a keto'er due to the health aspects and how it helps me control my eating. I imagine I'll be keto for quite a while, and a low carber, at the very least, for life.
  • johnnalsherman
    johnnalsherman Posts: 1 Member
    Who here is doing keto? What are your results?

    I just join MFP & just started Keto. My Dr recommended it as a way to help. As a result of knowing little about Ketogenic diets I joined MFP to help me keep track of my food intake.
  • ladipoet
    ladipoet Posts: 4,180 Member
    I'm also a Keto lifer...been following this lifestyle now for a couple months shy of 3 years. I second the group recommended above. In the first 4 months on Keto, I eliminated 50 pounds. Over the course of 22.5 months I successfully eliminated 167 pounds. I'm currently in maintenance and have been for almost a year now. I started Keto in an effort to control, reverse and/or eliminate several health issues and I've been largely successful where that is concerned: reversed a pre-diabetic diagnosis; eliminated daily headaches related to blood sugar (too high / too low); reduced carpal tunnel pain; eliminated knee pain; and I have the peripheral neuropathy in my feet under excellent control by managing my sugar intake strictly through foods I eat (not taking medication of any kind).
  • tillerstouch
    tillerstouch Posts: 608 Member
    Fyi in terms of weight loss keto offers no additional weight loss to a diet with carbs, given the deficit is the same.
  • rebekahgamache
    rebekahgamache Posts: 1 Member
    @tillerstouch that's actually not true. It changes your metabolism and facilitates fat loss. Instead of pulling glycogen from muscles for fuel it pulls fat from cells. Medically speaking, you will lose fat easier and faster at the same Caloric restriction.

    I've done both- at a 1500 calorie diet I lose around 1lbs weekly on a varied diet and 2-3 on keto. I also have more energy on keto, while that is anecdotal, I prescribe this diet to my patients and have seen the same. Also, the research is chemically and biologically sound.
  • AnvilHead
    AnvilHead Posts: 18,343 Member
    edited June 2017
    ...Medically speaking, you will lose fat easier and faster at the same Caloric restriction...

    Completely untrue.

    The keto diet can work better for some people as far as satiety/adherence, which may facilitate making the weight loss easier, but there is no metabolic advantage to a ketogenic diet. This has been scientifically proven in peer-reviewed studies. Research review here (study quoted for reference): http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/research-review/ketogenic-low-carbohydrate-diets-have-no-metabolic-advantage-over-nonketogenic-low-carbohydrate-diets-research-review.html
  • tillerstouch
    tillerstouch Posts: 608 Member
    AnvilHead wrote: »
    ...Medically speaking, you will lose fat easier and faster at the same Caloric restriction...

    Completely untrue.

    The keto diet can work better for some people as far as satiety/adherence, which may facilitate making the weight loss easier, but there is no metabolic advantage to a ketogenic diet. This has been scientifically proven in peer-reviewed studies. Research review here (study quoted for reference): http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/research-review/ketogenic-low-carbohydrate-diets-have-no-metabolic-advantage-over-nonketogenic-low-carbohydrate-diets-research-review.html

    Thanks for saving me the trouble of pulling an article.
  • AnvilHead
    AnvilHead Posts: 18,343 Member
    edited June 2017
    AnvilHead wrote: »
    ...Medically speaking, you will lose fat easier and faster at the same Caloric restriction...

    Completely untrue.

    The keto diet can work better for some people as far as satiety/adherence, which may facilitate making the weight loss easier, but there is no metabolic advantage to a ketogenic diet. This has been scientifically proven in peer-reviewed studies. Research review here (study quoted for reference): http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/research-review/ketogenic-low-carbohydrate-diets-have-no-metabolic-advantage-over-nonketogenic-low-carbohydrate-diets-research-review.html

    Thanks for saving me the trouble of pulling an article.

    Another link to the abstract of the actual study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/16685046/

    In the conclusions section:
    KLC and NLC diets were equally effective in reducing body weight and insulin resistance, but the KLC diet was associated with several adverse metabolic and emotional effects. The use of ketogenic diets for weight loss is not warranted.

    Another relevant study: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/22935440/

    [ETA:] And one more: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/27385608/
    CONCLUSION: The isocaloric KD was not accompanied by increased body fat loss but was associated with relatively small increases in EE that were near the limits of detection with the use of state-of-the-art technology. This trial was registered at clinicaltrials.gov as NCT01967563.
  • AnvilHead
    AnvilHead Posts: 18,343 Member
    edited June 2017
    An excerpt from the most recent Position Stand by the Journal of International Society of Sport Nutrition (JISSN):
    With scant exception [56], all controlled interventions to date that matched protein and energy intake between KD and non-KD conditions have failed to show a fat loss advantage of the KD [51, 53, 57, 58, 59, 60]. A recent review by Hall [61] states, “There has never been an inpatient controlled feeding study testing the effects of isocaloric diets with equal protein that has reported significantly increased energy expenditure or greater loss of body fat with lower carbohydrate diets.” In light of this and the previously discussed research, the ‘special effects’ of LCD and KD are not due to their alleged metabolic advantage, but their higher protein content. Perhaps the strongest evidence against the alleged metabolic advantage of carbohydrate restriction is a recent pair of meta-analyses by Hall and Guo [60], which included only isocaloric, protein-matched controlled feeding studies where all food intake was provided to the subjects (as opposed to self-selected and self-reported intake). A total of 32 studies were included in the analysis. Carbohydrate ranged from 1 to 83% and dietary fat ranged from 4 to 84% of total energy. No thermic or fat loss advantage was seen in the lower-CHO conditions. In fact, the opposite was revealed. Both energy expenditure (EE) and fat loss were slightly greater in the higher-CHO/lower-fat conditions (EE by 26 kcal/day, fat loss by 16 g/d); however, the authors conceded that these differences were too small to be considered practically meaningful.

    (The JISSN position stand is an excellent and very educational read in its entirety, btw)
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