Vitamins / supplements to aid weight loss

Rammer123 · July 2017

yohimbine and green tea extract both have been studied and have been shown to help

choppie70 · July 2017

RAD_Fitness wrote: »

yohimbine and green tea extract both have been studied and have been shown to help

There are also studies that say they don't work!

MYTH: Green-tea supplements burn fat
FACT: "Taking a green-tea supplement—or drinking cup after cup of the tea itself—isn't likely to produce significant or lasting weight loss.

"Any effect you see from green tea is probably due to the caffeine," says Tod Cooperman, MD, president of the independent testing company ConsumerLab.com, although a compound called EGCG (epigallocatechin gallate) may also be at work. “A stimulant will cause you to burn calories if it causes you to move more,” Dr. Cooperman explains. “And green tea contains a fair amount of caffeine.”

If you’re sensitive to caffeine, steer clear of caffeine-based supplements, as too much can affect heart rhythm and disturb your sleep.

yohimbine by itself may lack efficacy in promoting weight loss, combining it with exercise could make a difference.

According to MedlinePlus, yohimbine is possibly unsafe because of reports that have linked the substance to irregular heartbeat, seizures, heart attack, kidney failure and other side effects. Yohimbine is particularly unsafe for children, as they appear to be very sensitive to its effects. High doses of yohimbine could cause a number of very severe side effects, including difficulty breathing, very low blood pressure, heart problems, paralysis and even death.

Rammer123 · July 2017

It looks like you just copied and pasted that from an article.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17214405

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19074207

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19680234

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19597519

Poisonedpawn78 · July 2017

RAD_Fitness wrote: »

It looks like you just copied and pasted that from an article.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17214405

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19074207

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19680234

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19597519

From the study: subjects receiving catechin-caffeine mixtures and caffeine-only increase energy expenditure on average by 4.7% and 4.8%, respectively.

Its the Caffeine, Not the green tea itself. As proven by your own links. Not to mention that is energy levels not fat loss. Not to mention one of them is trying to suggest that green tea will target belly fat which is complete and utter garbage.

As for the Yohimbine "study" there is no supporting information at all.

Rammer123 · July 2017

Poisonedpawn78 wrote: »

RAD_Fitness wrote: »

It looks like you just copied and pasted that from an article.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17214405

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19074207

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19680234

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19597519

From the study: subjects receiving catechin-caffeine mixtures and caffeine-only increase energy expenditure on average by 4.7% and 4.8%, respectively.

Its the Caffeine, Not the green tea itself. As proven by your own links. Not to mention that is energy levels not fat loss. Not to mention one of them is trying to suggest that green tea will target belly fat which is complete and utter garbage.

As for the Yohimbine "study" there is no supporting information at all.

Maybe you should reread.

It also never claimed to "target" belly fat. It said it reduced belly fat, that's the measurement they took. They didn't say that it only reduces belly fat and no where else on the body gets the effect.

The article says that ethnicity and caffeine may influence the effect.

It's all good though, you don't think it works? No problem, I know it does, it's worked for me and others. We can disagree, that's fine.

PaulaWallaDingDong · July 2017

RAD_Fitness wrote: »

Poisonedpawn78 wrote: »

RAD_Fitness wrote: »

It looks like you just copied and pasted that from an article.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17214405

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19074207

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19680234

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19597519

From the study: subjects receiving catechin-caffeine mixtures and caffeine-only increase energy expenditure on average by 4.7% and 4.8%, respectively.

Its the Caffeine, Not the green tea itself. As proven by your own links. Not to mention that is energy levels not fat loss. Not to mention one of them is trying to suggest that green tea will target belly fat which is complete and utter garbage.

As for the Yohimbine "study" there is no supporting information at all.

Maybe you should reread.

It also never claimed to "target" belly fat. It said it reduced belly fat, that's the measurement they took. They didn't say that it only reduces belly fat and no where else on the body gets the effect.

The article says that ethnicity and caffeine may influence the effect.

It's all good though, you don't think it works? No problem, I know it does, it's worked for me and others. We can disagree, that's fine.

Ah... I tried a lot of otc supplements and insisted they worked, once upon a time. Had to justify the expense somehow.

SapioEnigmate · July 2017

I take magnesium per my neurologist's instruction. I also take B vitamins per my endocrinologist's instruction. Both of which help me feel well enough to track my calorie intake and be more active.

Other than that for my specific biology, no. I guess maybe placebo could help?

http://lifehacker.com/5873548/why-placebos-work-and-how-you-can-use-the-placebo-effect-to-accomplish-your-goals

thomasegbert09 · July 2017

I increased my fiber intake which helps me feel fuller. I do take Metamucil, whey protein, and a probiotic.

Carlos_421 · July 2017

RAD_Fitness wrote: »

suzannesimmons3 wrote: »

And again....if there was do you think we would be here.

nothing can AID in weight loss in conjunction to a healthy calorie deficit diet?

In the sense that a 500 calorie deficit with the supplement would result in faster weight loss than a 500 calorie deficit without? No.

RAD_Fitness wrote: »

yohimbine and green tea extract both have been studied and have been shown to help

At least that's how bodybuilding dot com is going to spin it in order to get you to buy stuff...

Msmia · July 2017

I think the point every one is making is once you start eating more clean, healthier foods your body will get all the vitamins and minerals you need (especially if you eat a some of your fruits and veggies raw and eat wholesome unrefined grains). Most processed foods lack vitamins and nutrients hence the vitamin store explosion. If you find you need more of a certain vitamin or mineral, start eating more foods that have it. Be gentle with yourself and the process. It more changing your mindset than anything else.

haroldrios1692 · July 2017

Time and a calorie deficit that's it, that's the best we can do!!

cterp · July 2017

I started using a cheap fitness tracker to track my sleep and found that I was very restless during the night. I used a very low dose melatonin for short term use with my doctor's permission and found that it helped reset my sleep cycle. If I don't sleep well I seem to have a lot more trouble controlling my appetite and have much less motivation to exercise. I think caffeine is mostly bad news and should be severely limited since it messes so much with sleep and stress levels.

trigden1991 · July 2017

RAD_Fitness wrote: »

yohimbine and green tea extract both have been studied and have been shown to help

Yohimbine does work on stubborn bodyfat and has been shown to have benefits for lean people.

Green Tea is useless.

inertiastrength · July 2017

I take an omega 3 fish oil for health but nothing is going to 'aid' your weight loss supplement wise. A tidy consistent deficit is adequate.

inertiastrength · July 2017

feel free to supplement your deficit with some cardio if you want to speed it up.

MazzyToday · July 2017

@robynsg2014 sorry you got jumped on for an innocent question. The MFP folks are generally great, but the claws sure come out if we sniff any hint if acceptance for surgical or pharmeceutically-assisted weight loss.

That is not what you were suggesting, and you didn't deserve what felt like a group pile on, even if everyone is mostly polite about it.

It is interesting how adamant and even angry members can be about that stuff. I think it is like hazing at colleges--if I had to go through something miserable, no one else gets to have it better.

I do wonder if some of the people who actually get nasty about surgery it pills, even when the patient is massive, feel the same way about methadone for heroin users or in-store treatment for long-time alcoholics--or if they can see the health value of those "shortcuts" since they haven't had to deal with those addictions.

Anyway, hope this didn't turn you off of the MFP community.

singingflutelady · July 2017

MazzyToday wrote: »

@robynsg2014 sorry you got jumped on for an innocent question. The MFP folks are generally great, but the claws sure come out if we sniff any hint if acceptance for surgical or pharmeceutically-assisted weight loss.

That is not what you were suggesting, and you didn't deserve what felt like a group pile on, even if everyone is mostly polite about it.

It is interesting how adamant and even angry members can be about that stuff. I think it is like hazing at colleges--if I had to go through something miserable, no one else gets to have it better.

I do wonder if some of the people who actually get nasty about surgery it pills, even when the patient is massive, feel the same way about methadone for heroin users or in-store treatment for long-time alcoholics--or if they can see the health value of those "shortcuts" since they haven't had to deal with those addictions.

Anyway, hope this didn't turn you off of the MFP community.

This thread isn't about surgery or prescription weight loss drugs....

EJBarner · July 2017

This isn't related to weight loss, per se, but I experimented with my diet a little bit and realized that I felt fuller and more content eating within my allotted calories when I ate a protein-heavy diet. Combined with increased strength training, I decided that eating a protein-rich diet would benefit me -- but we can't afford much meat, and I found that I was really struggling to meet my protein goals. As a result I've purchased some protein powder on sale, and it's really helped me reach my protein goal on days when my diet just doesn't have enough of it. (Half a scoop of protein powder mixed into greek yoghurt for dessert... mmm!)

Other than that, I'm a diagnosed anemic so I take iron pills. When I don't take them I tend to feel quite faint and fatigued, which makes me less likely to work out. I've never felt it necessary to take any other kind of supplements or vitamins.

psuLemon · July 2017

RAD_Fitness wrote: »

It looks like you just copied and pasted that from an article.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17214405

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19074207

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19680234

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19597519

https://examine.com/supplements/green-tea-catechins/

This looks at all the literature regarding green tea (and many supplements for a matter of fact). Below is their summary on fat burning effects:

"There appears to be a fat reducing effect associated with green tea, but it is minor and unreliable".

At best, you might see a slight increase, but that is dependent on many factors, especially bioavailability, dosage and interactions with other vitamins/stimulants.

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