What the hell are carbs?
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Ben_there_done_that wrote: »Carcomymrates are like spaghetti, breads, paper towels...
Yea i just cant kick the paper towel habit12 -
Ben_there_done_that wrote: »Carcomymrates are like spaghetti, breads, paper towels...
This is my favorite thing I've read today5 -
bahahahaahaha I've never watched Adult Swim. Thanks for that.
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quiksylver296 wrote: »Carbohydrates are a macro-nutrient. There are 3 macro-nutrients - carbs, proteins and fats. Every food is made up of these three macros. So, if it isn't protein and it isn't fat, it's a carb (or some combo of the three).
This.
And there's no reason to go low carb for weight loss, unless you want to. Carbs aren't what matters for weight loss, having the correct calorie deficit for your weight loss goals is and that's what you should be focusing on.1 -
I would imagine that your nutritionist is referring to heavy/refined/processed carbs that don't have much nutrition, such as bread or pasta.
Carbs in fruits and vegetables are fine as they're natural - these are 'fiber' carbs and needed.
Just like sugar in a banana is natural when compared to sugar in sweets, natural carbs are full of nutrition (such as fibre) and are a much better choice when compared to processed carbs.
So carbs in bread....are not fiber carbs...and are not natural? Hmmmm.
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your nutritionist is an idiot.8
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Yeah.... no.
Did you know that a nutritionist course can be completed over a weekend? Considering they didn't even give you a sheet of paper listing the foods you need to minimize, or even referred you to a nutrition website tells screams that much from the one you've been seeing.
There is nothing wrong with carbs, even for weight loss.
Excess calories are responsible for weight gain.
Innacurate food logging (underestimating/guessing instead of using a food scale) and overestimating exercise calories burned is responsible for no to less weight loss when in a deficit/logging.
Eat foods for nutrition.
Eat foods for joy (yes, you can have chocolate and/or ice cream if you include it in your calories!) :drinker:
Just log everything that you eat, drink and cook with. Weigh solid and semi solid food on a digital food scale in grams.
Choose correct database entries. A green check mark entry isn't necessarily correct. Check your food packaging and USDA food database if you're unsure.
All foods have calories. They add up.3 -
I would imagine that your nutritionist is referring to heavy/refined/processed carbs that don't have much nutrition, such as bread or pasta.
Carbs in fruits and vegetables are fine as they're natural - these are 'fiber' carbs and needed.
Just like sugar in a banana is natural when compared to sugar in sweets, natural carbs are full of nutrition (such as fibre) and are a much better choice when compared to processed carbs.
Except bread and pasta both have pretty good nutrition. Like anything, they can be over-eaten -- but there's no reason to avoid them (unless you find it makes it easier for you to meet your calorie goals and you don't mind avoiding them).6 -
I would imagine that your nutritionist is referring to heavy/refined/processed carbs that don't have much nutrition, such as bread or pasta.
We have no clue what her "nutritionist" means or how much education she has, but using "carbs" to mean only highly refined starches would be a good sign that she's not a good nutritionist and is using words incorrectly.
Whole grains are considered reasonably nutritious, btw, and can be part of a very nutritious meal (a favorite of mine when losing weight -- with both whole wheat and white pasta -- was to combine a serving size with a sauce made of many vegetables (also carbs) and some lean meat, with a little olive oil and feta cheese, maybe some pinenuts). Fast, nutritious meal, so I'd like to know why it would be verboten in the advice.
Most foods that are normally meant by low nutrient, highly refined foods, btw, are really as much fat as carbs, like cookies, so it would be extra stupid to mean those if you said carbs.Carbs in fruits and vegetables are fine as they're natural - these are 'fiber' carbs and needed.
No, they are not merely fiber carbs, but also sugar and starches. Most of the calories in fruit, obviously, are from sugar.
They ARE fine, of course -- as are the starches in potatoes and grains which are also natural. (How would they not be natural? Where do you think they come from?)Just like sugar in a banana is natural when compared to sugar in sweets, natural carbs are full of nutrition (such as fibre) and are a much better choice when compared to processed carbs.
Again, do you imagine that the carbs in potatoes are added in? Or the carbs in grains, like say oats or, again, bread? (Some bread has a bit of sugar added, but it need not, and anyway the sugar isn't actually different in kind from that in fruit, it's a matter of dosage and what it comes with.)
There may be a reason for OP to do a low carb diet, but as others would say, recommending it without explaining what is being recommended or the reasons for it is extremely irresponsible.11 -
French_Peasant wrote: »Ben_there_done_that wrote: »Carcomymrates are like spaghetti, breads, paper towels...
This is one of the best posts I have EVER seen on MFP. It *is* true that paper towels are carbs. Or carcs, as the case may be.
ETA: I believe it is actually "pasketti" that is a carc.
ETA ETA: Are popscockles carcs?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85wujdlSSYI
Thank you. Just . . . . thank you for posting this, lol.5 -
French_Peasant wrote: »I would imagine that your nutritionist is referring to heavy/refined/processed carbs that don't have much nutrition, such as bread or pasta.
Carbs in fruits and vegetables are fine as they're natural - these are 'fiber' carbs and needed.
Just like sugar in a banana is natural when compared to sugar in sweets, natural carbs are full of nutrition (such as fibre) and are a much better choice when compared to processed carbs.
So carbs in bread....are not fiber carbs...and are not natural? Hmmmm.
No, bread isn't natural, it's man made and it's a refined carb (especially if it's white, whole grain is better for you and more nutritional). Bread is made from natural ingredients (wheat) so does have fiber in it, but it's a 'starchy' refined carb and nowhere near as nutritional as natural fiber carbs found in vegetables that grow naturally, such as broccoli.46 -
IF I'm paying for a consultation, I expect a product going away, even if it's a cooperative product.
From a Physical Trainer... I want a program
From a Nutritionist... I want an eating plan(diet) at least in shell format.
If you didn't get a product, and you paid... You got ripped off... also... dump the nutritionist... you're getting incomplete or bad advice.6 -
If it's not protein or dietary fat, it's a carb...veg, fruit, grains, starches, etc are carbs.
Low carb or lower carb doesn't mean no carb...eat your veg and some fruit. When I'm cutting I typically do a low to moderate carb intake and basically limit grains and starches and such...I still have them, I just limit them to stay around 130 - 150 grams of carbs per day and load up on my veggies...2 -
French_Peasant wrote: »I would imagine that your nutritionist is referring to heavy/refined/processed carbs that don't have much nutrition, such as bread or pasta.
Carbs in fruits and vegetables are fine as they're natural - these are 'fiber' carbs and needed.
Just like sugar in a banana is natural when compared to sugar in sweets, natural carbs are full of nutrition (such as fibre) and are a much better choice when compared to processed carbs.
So carbs in bread....are not fiber carbs...and are not natural? Hmmmm.
No, bread isn't natural, it's man made and it's a refined carb (especially if it's white, whole grain is better for you and more nutritional). Bread is made from natural ingredients (wheat) so does have fiber in it, but it's a 'starchy' refined carb and nowhere near as nutritional as natural fiber carbs found in vegetables that grow naturally, such as broccoli.
Again, why are starches found naturally in foods in greater or lesser amounts (including vegetables, potatoes, nuts, oats, and flour made from grains) not natural?
And fiber can be naturally in a food or added in, obviously (although it wouldn't be added in to a whole food).
The majority of carbs in fruit (and certainly the calories) are from sugar:
Blueberries, 100 g, has 57 calories, made up of (among other things) 10 g (or 40 calories) of sugar.
They are also perfectly good foods to eat, but they count toward one's carbs if one is counting carbs. Anyway who assumed "carbs" does not include blueberries would need to explain that, as the common (and correct) meaning of the word includes blueberries, or the carbs in them anyway.14 -
Hoping you return and reply to this thread to tell us why you are on a low carb diet. If you have a medical condition such as PCOS or being pre-diabetic which benefits from lower carbs, the responses should be different than if you are trying to lose weight by a ketogenic diet. In either case, I'm not aware of any diet so restrictive that the limited carbs in non-starchy vegetables are a problem. And in either case, you need more information than you seem to be getting in order to make good food choices.
It's also important to note the difference between carbs and net carbs, which are carbs minus fiber. Since mostly fiber doesn't get digested or raise blood sugar, it's usual to subtract it from total carbs when calculating carbs.
If you have a medical condition, you need to contact your nutritionist and let her know you still have questions. If you are trying to lose weight via a ketogenic diet, this may not be a good fit for you - just reducing calories is as effective and simpler. In that case, a different nutritionist might help.2 -
French_Peasant wrote: »I would imagine that your nutritionist is referring to heavy/refined/processed carbs that don't have much nutrition, such as bread or pasta.
Carbs in fruits and vegetables are fine as they're natural - these are 'fiber' carbs and needed.
Just like sugar in a banana is natural when compared to sugar in sweets, natural carbs are full of nutrition (such as fibre) and are a much better choice when compared to processed carbs.
So carbs in bread....are not fiber carbs...and are not natural? Hmmmm.
No, bread isn't natural, it's man made and it's a refined carb (especially if it's white, whole grain is better for you and more nutritional). Bread is made from natural ingredients (wheat) so does have fiber in it, but it's a 'starchy' refined carb and nowhere near as nutritional as natural fiber carbs found in vegetables that grow naturally, such as broccoli.
How can something with "natural ingredients" be unnatural? I mean, if I made a pot of chili that would be (wo)manmade, but it doesn't mean that the nutrients in it somehow vanish. Many of the foods we eat undergo some form of prep or processing (either by us or prior to the point of purchase).
A diet can include bread and broccoli. It's not like we have to forgo all the benefits of broccoli forever in order to have a slice of bread.23 -
French_Peasant wrote: »I would imagine that your nutritionist is referring to heavy/refined/processed carbs that don't have much nutrition, such as bread or pasta.
Carbs in fruits and vegetables are fine as they're natural - these are 'fiber' carbs and needed.
Just like sugar in a banana is natural when compared to sugar in sweets, natural carbs are full of nutrition (such as fibre) and are a much better choice when compared to processed carbs.
So carbs in bread....are not fiber carbs...and are not natural? Hmmmm.
No, bread isn't natural, it's man made and it's a refined carb
To elaborate on this, bread is not really a "carb" -- it contains carbs (the majority of its calories are from carbs), but also has some protein.
The bread is "man made" (as if that were bad, my grilled salmon is also "man made" in that I cooked it in a bit of olive oil and added some lemon, and my salad of a variety of raw and cooked veg with some feta, olives, and a homemade vinaigrette is certainly "man made" -- well, I'm a woman, but I assume we are using man to mean mankind). However, the CARBS in the bread are not "man made," they are mostly from the carbs that are inherent in grains. Refining the grains more (to make white flour) does not add carbs.11 -
French_Peasant wrote: »I would imagine that your nutritionist is referring to heavy/refined/processed carbs that don't have much nutrition, such as bread or pasta.
Carbs in fruits and vegetables are fine as they're natural - these are 'fiber' carbs and needed.
Just like sugar in a banana is natural when compared to sugar in sweets, natural carbs are full of nutrition (such as fibre) and are a much better choice when compared to processed carbs.
So carbs in bread....are not fiber carbs...and are not natural? Hmmmm.
No, bread isn't natural, it's man made and it's a refined carb (especially if it's white, whole grain is better for you and more nutritional). Bread is made from natural ingredients (wheat) so does have fiber in it, but it's a 'starchy' refined carb and nowhere near as nutritional as natural fiber carbs found in vegetables that grow naturally, such as broccoli.
Lol....made from natural ingredients, but it's not natural...
If I make lentil stew with scratch (natural) ingredients, is the end product then not natural because I combined a bunch of ingredients to make something? LMFAO...18 -
Let's not trash the nutritionist because every coin has two sides. Many health care professionals do explain to their clients/patients everything, but some of those explanations are "not heard," and people in general don't ask for clarification or don't bother to go on line to look for it. It is easier to get it from MFP no?6
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