riding stationary bike question

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  • CincyNeid
    CincyNeid Posts: 1,249 Member
    Arrabindi wrote: »
    Does it even make sense to make about mileage on a stationary bike? 1) When you're on a real bike the mileage depends on so many factors, 2) that are probably not accounted for on a stationary bike, like air resistance, gear, wheel diameter, weight of the bike and yourself, etc.
    I think it's difficult to compare a stationary bike to a real one, so I think you should just compete against on yourself on the stationary bike and aim to do better than you did last week and not worry about how it compares to real biking.

    1) A mile is a mile, regardless of if you're a Time Trial machine, an Aero Bike, A Mountain Bike, BMX, or Commuter bike. A mile is a mile is a mile. You cannot change that fact that 5,280 feet are one mile.

    2) The manufacturer accounted for the size of the flywheel into the logarithm that the computer uses to figure out how far a mile is. Just like a 700c tire/wheel combo has a different circumference that a 650b tire/wheel combo has.

    I will overall agree with you on the Air Resistance, Gearing and weight [esp when it comes to climbing], but the distance thing... a mile is a mile is a mile.
  • kcjchang
    kcjchang Posts: 709 Member
    Distances traved or speed doesn't mean much when the resistance cannot be quantified. There's a big difference between punching the air and a brick wall.
  • Natalierae886
    Natalierae886 Posts: 286 Member
    Are you sure your bike isn't measuring in kilometres? I do 11 kilometres in 30 mins... works out at 6 miles
  • Riley1511riley
    Riley1511riley Posts: 2 Member
    Just hit my 8 month record of 14.41 miles in 35 min with 621 cal burned do yes really possible in think that's around 24.7 mph average maybe little higher
  • Machka9
    Machka9 Posts: 25,611 Member
    Just hit my 8 month record of 14.41 miles in 35 min with 621 cal burned do yes really possible in think that's around 24.7 mph average maybe little higher

    On a stationary bike or on a real bicycle?
  • Machka9
    Machka9 Posts: 25,611 Member
    Are you sure your bike isn't measuring in kilometres? I do 11 kilometres in 30 mins... works out at 6 miles

    I expect a lot of people make this mistake ... assume the stat bikes are in miles when they are actually in kilometres.
  • sijomial
    sijomial Posts: 19,809 Member
    edited August 2016
    To state the obvious - stationary bikes don't move!

    Some purely count the pedal revolutions so if you have minimal resistance you can spin the crank in a blur of legs doing very little real work and burning not a lot of energy but register a good distance.
    If they are taking the sensor from the flywheel speed then resistance (gearing effectively) will be taken into account then they have a better chance of being proportionate to your effort (power).
    You can test that yourself by keeping cadence steady and varying the resistance and seeing what difference it makes to the "speed".

    More sophisticated bikes are better and measure power and then can give a reasonable but still rough estimate of speed.
    Last night I saw 22.8 virtual miles on a WattbikePro (with an accurate power meter) doing effectively a one hour time trial to exhaustion.
    I couldn't do that speed outside on my local roads but perhaps if I was in a velodrome or found a 20+ mile stretch of perfect road......
  • CincyNeid
    CincyNeid Posts: 1,249 Member
    edited August 2016
    You guys are making me want to go out for an hour straight and see how many miles I can crank out on my bike .....

    Looking at THIS report from my Ride Cincinnati for Breast Cancer it looks like I rode 23.9 miles in an hour
  • MalkinMagic71
    MalkinMagic71 Posts: 1,433 Member
    I hit 20 miles or so in 50 to 55 minutes on the stationary bike at the gym. It changes the resistance at various times throughout the time I'm doing it. I know I probably wouldn't go that fast on a real bike but I do go hard at the gym to keep a good pace.
  • sgt1372
    sgt1372 Posts: 3,997 Member
    I routinely ride my LeMond RevMaster Pro at 22 mph at 90-100 rpm for 30 mins/11 miles at a rate of 500-600 cal/hr with a max HR of around 130-135 (80% of my max) which is indicative of only a moderate rate of activity because I do not raise the resistance setting that high.

    However, I'm pretty sure that I could not ride a real bike on a real road that fast.
  • Riley1511riley
    Riley1511riley Posts: 2 Member
    That was stationary bike and it was miles
  • canadianlbs
    canadianlbs Posts: 5,199 Member
    brendaj39 wrote: »
    I know riding a stationary bike compared to riding outside is alot different. I'm just happy with my self that I am able to ride for 30-45 mintues without stopping and taking breaks..

    good for you. the last time i got on a stationary bike i was doing a 20km round-trip commute in the 'real' world every day. hills and bridges and all.

    but for some reason 5 minutes on the stationary bike had me deciding i'd rather eat styrofoam. i wouldn't be so quick to assume stationary bikes are 'less' than the 'real' kind. sure wasn't true in my case.
  • Michael190lbs
    Michael190lbs Posts: 1,510 Member
    I ride 60 min every morning somnetimes its 18 miles sometimes it 22 miles (stationary in my living room) Level 13
  • sgt1372
    sgt1372 Posts: 3,997 Member
    I ride my spin bike at relatively low resistance consistently at 20-22mph for 30 mins at 90-100 rpm covering 10-11miles on the computer, which works out to 3 min or less per mile and maxes my HR at around 120-130 bpm, which is my target zone.
  • BrianSharpe
    BrianSharpe Posts: 9,248 Member
    Hi guys, I wonder if you can help me. I have been working out on a stationary bike and have seen a lot of stuff online (including upwards in this thread) about people routinely managing 10 miles in 30 mins. I can manage 4 miles in 33 minutes, and that's if i'm really gunning for it. Could someone let me know how many rpms they are reaching? I am going at around 80rpm which feels quite fast, but I have only begun fairly recently - last few months - so maybe I will be able to attain this further down the line.

    Thanks for reading!
    Gill

    Cadence is an individual thing but in very general terms you want to be somewhere in the neighbourhood of 90 rpm. You probably have the resistance set too high (useful if you're training for hills)
  • NorthCascades
    NorthCascades Posts: 10,968 Member
    Hi guys, I wonder if you can help me. I have been working out on a stationary bike and have seen a lot of stuff online (including upwards in this thread) about people routinely managing 10 miles in 30 mins. I can manage 4 miles in 33 minutes, and that's if i'm really gunning for it. Could someone let me know how many rpms they are reaching? I am going at around 80rpm which feels quite fast, but I have only begun fairly recently - last few months - so maybe I will be able to attain this further down the line.

    Thanks for reading!
    Gill

    It comes down to cadence. To hit 10 miles in 30 minutes, you need a cadence in the mid 90's....so somewhere around 95 revolutions per minute.

    Cadence doesn't matter. Come visit me, I'll show you a lot of roads that go downhill for more than 10 miles without stopping, you can cover those 10 miles in 15 minutes and not pedal once.

    It call comes down to power. Speed = power * all opposing forces. Opposing forces are air resistance, gravity, etc. In general, 20 mph requires about 160 watts on flat ground on a windless day if you're riding a road bike on the hoods.
  • kcjchang
    kcjchang Posts: 709 Member
    edited October 2016
    What weight (rider and bike) and CdA are you using? I'm pushing around 190 watts at 20 mph, 240 watts at 22 mph, and 270 watts at 23 mph. Rider and bike ~85.7 kg and semi tucked (hands on hoods but lower arm near perpendicular to the ground, 0.31 < CdA < 0.35; don't have the right PM to calculate it). See http://www.cyclingpowerlab.com/PowerSpeedScenarios.aspx for quick and dirty calc.

    I'll be very surprised if one can generate that kind of wattage on a spin bike. It's the same BS proponents of rollers been pushing for decades.
    It comes down to cadence. To hit 10 miles in 30 minutes, you need a cadence in the mid 90's....so somewhere around 95 revolutions per minute.
    You forgot to indicate what gear ratio. Here is except from http://www.bikecalc.com/speed_at_cadence, reflecting current popular chain ring/gear combination. This is just the speed generated based on the gear inch and does not take into account resistance (wind & friction). Actual speed on a bicycle is lower.

    How fast (mph) will I be going at 90-100 rpm in these gears?
    Gear | 90rpm | 95rpm | 100rpm
    34x12 | 20.05 | 21.16 | 22.27
    34x13 | 18.56 | 19.59 | 20.62
    42x15 | 19.83 | 20.94 | 22.04
    42x16 | 18.63 | 19.67 | 20.70
    46x16 | 20.40 | 21.53 | 22.67
    46x17 | 19.20 | 20.26 | 21.33
    50x18 | 19.69 | 20.79 | 21.88
    50x19 | 18.63 | 19.67 | 20.70
    52x18 | 20.47 | 21.61 | 22.75
    52x19 | 19.41 | 20.49 | 21.57
    53x19 | 19.76 | 20.86 | 21.96
    Could someone let me know how many rpms they are reaching?

    The cadence does not matter. The same speed can be maintained either with high cadence and low power or low cadence and high power. Only the power output matters. The reason for the advocacy for high cadence (endurance) is to shift the workload from the skeletal muscles to the cardiovascular system. Skeletal muscles fatigue quickly and take a longer time to recover. In contrast, your cardiovascular system is much much more resilient and by capitalizing a small potion of the skeletal muscles' capability, you can hum all day.
  • kcjchang
    kcjchang Posts: 709 Member
    Meant to say
    * high cadence (angular velocity) and low force (torque) or low cadence and high force

    Force is this cause is how hard you push on the pedals.
  • BeeerRunner
    BeeerRunner Posts: 728 Member
    I typically do about 15 to 16 mph, but I have the resistance up and I'm doing hills. My RPMs are in the upper 90s in the flats but much lower on the hills.
  • dean091088
    dean091088 Posts: 1 Member
    Speed is irrelavant depends on lots of factors , best way is most likely training with power or a heart rate monitor set ur zones and stick to them.
  • spiriteagle99
    spiriteagle99 Posts: 3,743 Member
    I have a recumbent stationary bike. I'll usually start at 0 resistance and build up to 8 or 10. My average speed is 24 mph. A mile takes about 2 1/2 minutes. What I have seen is that it doesn't burn many calories. I read somewhere that riding outside, 5 miles equals 1 mile on foot, but with the stationary bike, it takes about 7 - 8 miles to burn 100 calories.
  • NorthCascades
    NorthCascades Posts: 10,968 Member
    How do you go a mile on a stationary bike?
  • GregHenderson2
    GregHenderson2 Posts: 1 Member
    Absolutely. 11 miles in 30 minutes is obviously 22 mph. I reasonably fit this would be attainable. This is about pace that I keep on a commercial grade well calibrated "life fitness" stationary. Anywhere between 18 and 24 mph is what I do. However, for me to keep 24 mph pace for an entire hour is once in a blue moon when fresh legs, fitnessand nutrition all line up. At 22 mph you would be "feeling a burn" and sweating. I dont belive 30 mph would be possible by a mortal on a calibrated stationary bike, however.
  • kcjchang
    kcjchang Posts: 709 Member
    You should race. Lower division amateur road racers (Cat 3-5) average around 20-23 mph. If you can hold above 18 mph solo, you should finish and at 24, place.
  • NerdyFlex
    NerdyFlex Posts: 1,672 Member
    That’s a reasonable time for sure. I usually run, but I am recovering from an overdue injury in my knee and have switched to biking. I’m usually around that same pace!
  • MostlyWater
    MostlyWater Posts: 4,294 Member
    At spin class, I can do about 20 miles per hour and I'm not fast.
  • DX2JX2
    DX2JX2 Posts: 1,921 Member
    How do you go a mile on a stationary bike?

    This sounds like a riddle or a joke that's begging for a punchline.
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