MacGregor vs. Mayweather

Bry_Lander wrote: »

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cabronlobos wrote: »

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grace173 wrote: »

I don't think he cares to be honest. He just wants the pay packet, and with a pay packet like that, who can blame him? I just hope he doesn't get killed!

How exactly would McGregor "get killed"? Have you watched any Mayweather fights over the past 6-7 years?

For this fight, Mayweather is going to dance around, pepper him with harmless punches with his 10 oz gloves that will score points, and clinch. McGregor will chase him around, and if he doesn't run out of gas, will lose a lopsided decision, but won't even feel like he has been in a fight afterward. And both men will get richer.

By the way, if this was a street fight or a UFC fight, McGregor would either knock him out, submit him, or choke him out in about 45 seconds.

Yes, McGregor would beat Floyd easily in an MMA fight as well as in the street,I agree. That's exactly why he's taking the easy money and fighting McGregor on his terms. But if you don't think McGregor is not gonna get busted up bad in this fight, you haven't been watching Mayweather either. It's not like Floyd does not have power, he just chose to fight safe using the best defense in the game when he went up against other world class boxers, something McGregor is not even close to being. McGregor's fights for his career have averaged 5 mins per fight.....Mayweather has averaged 33. As bad *kitten* as McGregor is, and yes I do believe he is, if this fight go us past 5 rounds he is gonna be so gassed from trying to hit Mayweather and getting pot shotted at will, he's gonna just be target practice until the ref either stops it or he gets knocked out. As far as the gloves go....the ounces of the gloves have more to do with hand protection than it does for damage inflicted. Am MMA fighter may never in his career throw as many punches in his career as a boxer does in one 12 rd fight. That's why they use bigger gloves. But the impact of throwing a heavier object at the head.....heavier gloves....is actually more likely to cause more brain movement on impact causing concussion or knockout than if with 4 oz gloves or even bare fist.

When I watched the Mayweather-Pacquiao fight, I saw two men who were not really attempting to knock each other out. Possessing knockout power is useless if Mayweather refuses to get into meaningful exchanges. Is this a smart strategy? Absolutely. Will it win the fight against McGregor. Probably. Is it exciting? Not at all, I would rather watch two unknowns aggressively going after each other in a boxing or MMA fight than two elite boxers playing patty-cake for 12 rounds.

McGregor's conditioning will be the key factor. I wouldn't assume he will come in out of shape just because he hasn't gone long in most of his fights. UFC rounds are 5 minutes, and those extra 2 minutes at the end of a round (when a boxer gets to rest after 3) are brutal. In preparation for this fight, McGregor isn't training kicks, wrestling, martial arts, submissions, etc., which an MMA fighter must do, he is just training boxing, and attaining a level of conditioning specific to boxing.

I disagree on the gloves. Getting hit on the chin by 4 oz gloves is going to cause more trauma than 10 oz gloves, and MMA gloves inflict more cuts. If boxers used MMA gloves you wouldn't be seeing all of these fights going the distance. You are right that holding your hands up and throwing punches with bigger gloves requires better conditioning, though.

Well its sports science that concludes that getting hit with heavier things in the head will cause more trauma then getting hit with lighter things. I will say that yes a smaller glove or bare fist can cause more cuts, but as a fighter and trainer of fighters for 30+ yrs I will tell you cuts aren't all that big of a deal in determining performance, especially with a competent cut man. Sustained battering is a huge factor though.....and that's what boxers face.

I agree I would rather watch 2 game fighters going for it trying like hell to win a fight and not playing a cautious game. But even mentioning that does not pertain to the McGregor Mayweather fight. An unskilled boxer, who is tough as nails, against world class boxer that will be able to do whatever he wants to him. Canelo Alvarez who is one of the most feared punchers and boxers in the game looked like a child in their with Floyd.....it's gonna be a whitewash.

I have done this on a pro and amateur level for well over 30 yrs. I even teach striking in an MMA gym in NY and get to roll a little with them. It's not a fair fight.....and it's not because one sport is any better than the other. Just because both men are fighters doesn't mean they are interchangeable in any way.

I'll explain it this way. If you were to take Tom Brady, one of the best QB's of all time....and Jerry Rice, arguably the best wide receiver of all time....and put them in a passing competition to see who the best football player is, it's not a fair competition. Not saying Rice can't throw a ball, but not like a QB......doesn't make Rice any less great, just not a great QB. That's all this is with this fight. I personally like McGregor far more than Mayweather, but that doesn't make him any more likely to win this fight.

Here is a hypothetical, drawing on your fighting background - let's say you are walking out of the gym on a given night, and a guy approaches you and picks a fight with you; you know him and that he has some fighting skills, and that the fight is inevitable. You have a pair of 10 oz gloves in the gym bag you are carrying. If you had a moment and could do it safely, would you put your boxing gloves on before the fight? Do you think having those gloves on would give you an advantage over a bare knuckle fighter?

forward0backward wrote: »

That *kitten* going to end in two seconds.

_MistahJ_ wrote: »

Bry_Lander wrote: »

grace173 wrote: »

I don't think he cares to be honest. He just wants the pay packet, and with a pay packet like that, who can blame him? I just hope he doesn't get killed!

How exactly would McGregor "get killed"? Have you watched any Mayweather fights over the past 6-7 years?

For this fight, Mayweather is going to dance around, pepper him with harmless punches with his 10 oz gloves that will score points, and clinch. McGregor will chase him around, and if he doesn't run out of gas, will lose a lopsided decision, but won't even feel like he has been in a fight afterward. And both men will get richer.

By the way, if this was a street fight or a UFC fight, McGregor would either knock him out, submit him, or choke him out in about 45 seconds.

Exactly this. Mayweather only hits women hard.