Alli xenical ortistat - any experience?

getfitpixi
getfitpixi Posts: 34 Member
edited November 20 in Health and Weight Loss
So I'm hoping to lose 1 stone or so by October. Apparently alli can help you lose 50% more weight than without it. Any ideas if this is true? I am feeling awful because I have gained weight after a problem with anorexia for the past two years
I barely ate and kept my body weight deliberately low. At 5'5 I was just over 8 stone. I'm now nearly 11 stone. This is all because I starved my body and I'm quite ashamed. I'm not used to the weight though and I would certainly feel more comfortable at 9 stone and a half.
Problem is... I'm quite healthy and I assume my weight gain has been rebound because I has starved. I was also put on ssris which was a catalyst to my gain.
Has anyone successfully used this medication? Or do you have any tips for a relatively healthy eater?
I'm very willing to try anything! This weight has got to come off. Finding it hard to show my face :s
Thanks!!
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  • MossiO
    MossiO Posts: 164 Member
    Two words: anal leakage.

    Is it really worth it to you when all you have to do is log your food accurately?
  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
    getfitpixi wrote: »
    I'm very willing to try anything!
    Thanks!!

    It's just a drug that lets some people eat more without absorbing nutritional value from the food. Basically, it's a modern equivalent of the old Roman vomitorium.

    Why not try logging all your food and managing your weight that way?
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  • Chef_Barbell
    Chef_Barbell Posts: 6,644 Member
    That video of the news reporter sharting herself on the air was classic and enough reason to say no.
  • toxikon
    toxikon Posts: 2,383 Member
    Required reading for OP: https://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/10290083/alli-xenical-does-it-work-please-only-answer-if-you-have-actually-taken-it/p1
  • getfitpixi
    getfitpixi Posts: 34 Member
    Hey thanks guys
    Just to let you know I'm just trying the alli for a month to shift this weight as it doesn't seem to be going anywhere.
    I have reduced my diet but used to have phobias of eating fat but using alli I feel like I can do a small degree.
    I'm just trying to ensure a swift, but non-starvation style weight loss. It's really crucial to my self esteem.
    If any other supplements or ideas could be suggested I'd appreciate that.
    I also had to use the sleep medication melatonin for bounds of insomnia. I'm almost certain this resulted in weight gain.
    I honestly feel that medication has been a big contributor and so I'm abit clueless about how to get it off as it's unexpected gain :(
  • getfitpixi
    getfitpixi Posts: 34 Member
    Also my issue with anorexia means I struggle to healthily log food without quickly developing an unhealthy obsession with it. Not to mention food phobias and guilt.
    I thought this could be a way to ensure less obsessive behaviour on my behalf. Honestly I get very panicked when I'm above 9 stone. I struggle.
  • getfitpixi
    getfitpixi Posts: 34 Member
    I have spoken to professionals but they say similar things.
    This is an internal thing and I don't believe that they can magic it away.
    Either way. I am better now and even let myself go a little with the ssris but now it's time to take back some control.
    I am on a low dose of alli and so haven't noticed any awful side effects to be honest.
    I use the medication spareingly.
  • getfitpixi
    getfitpixi Posts: 34 Member
    I feel like everyone just makes immature jokes about the medication
    But what would be helpful is knowing how to fully utilise its benefits :)
  • vespiquenn
    vespiquenn Posts: 1,455 Member
    edited July 2017
    getfitpixi wrote: »
    I have spoken to professionals but they say similar things.
    This is an internal thing and I don't believe that they can magic it away.
    Either way. I am better now and even let myself go a little with the ssris but now it's time to take back some control.
    I am on a low dose of alli and so haven't noticed any awful side effects to be honest.
    I use the medication spareingly.

    Then find new professionals. You clearly aren't fine if you're looking for a quick fix, with horrible.. horrible side effects, because your self-esteem is tied to your weight. No one is going condone the use of Alli.
  • gamerbabe14
    gamerbabe14 Posts: 876 Member
    ruqayyahsmum wrote: »
    I took it, stuck to a low fat diet, exercised etc
    I lost the grand total of 4lb in a month which my doc insisted was low because i didnt eat enough fat. I refused the second months prescription, it wasnt worth it.....

    Because one night my bosses wife made me plain rice with vegetables as she knew i wouldnt be able to eat her curry. She failed to mention she fried it all in ghee before adding the water to cook the rice

    Later in a taxi i started to get a sore tummy and a warm sensation. I clenched my muscles tighter than i ever thought possible and begged the driver to hurry.

    I got out the taxi and waddled into the house where in the bathroom there was an explosion in a palm oil factory

    Tge taxi seats were thankfully clean but the same could not be said for my underwear

    I travelled with spare underwear the rest of the time i took orlistat

    I don't see anything immature about this story. How awful!!
  • ruqayyahsmum
    ruqayyahsmum Posts: 1,513 Member
    gamerbabe14 wrote: »
    ruqayyahsmum wrote: »
    I took it, stuck to a low fat diet, exercised etc
    I lost the grand total of 4lb in a month which my doc insisted was low because i didnt eat enough fat. I refused the second months prescription, it wasnt worth it.....

    Because one night my bosses wife made me plain rice with vegetables as she knew i wouldnt be able to eat her curry. She failed to mention she fried it all in ghee before adding the water to cook the rice

    Later in a taxi i started to get a sore tummy and a warm sensation. I clenched my muscles tighter than i ever thought possible and begged the driver to hurry.

    I got out the taxi and waddled into the house where in the bathroom there was an explosion in a palm oil factory

    Tge taxi seats were thankfully clean but the same could not be said for my underwear

    I travelled with spare underwear the rest of the time i took orlistat

    I don't see anything immature about this story. How awful!!

    And it was after being taken off a weightloss medication prescribed by my gp that was withdrawn because it was being linked to an alarming upswing in suicide rates and suicidal thoughts
    I will never take weightloss medications prescribed by a doctor again
  • ruqayyahsmum
    ruqayyahsmum Posts: 1,513 Member
    getfitpixi wrote: »
    I feel like everyone just makes immature jokes about the medication
    But what would be helpful is knowing how to fully utilise its benefits :)

    No one is making immature jokes. The medication has horrible side effects. Just because alli is a half strength version doesnt make it better

    Since you have a history of ED you should not be taking any type of weightloss medication or suppliment without your doctors approval and monitoring
  • SLLeask
    SLLeask Posts: 489 Member
    I took it a long time ago. Please don't do it. I was lucky I never got leakage, but the smell, oh the smell when you do use the loo, awful, terrible, hideous. You can't go in public loos or at a friends house, you get the most disgusting oil slick that you can't get rid of with a flush, or ten, or with a toilet brush and if you do manage to scrub the toilet clean then the brush needs to be binned! And the smell will permeate the surrounding vicinity and people will look at you like you're about to die...

    I use melatonin for sleep and I have to say I haven't put on weight. In fact it has helped with my weight loss, not because of any of the properties of the tablets themselves, simply because I am sleeping better which you need.

    I really think if the professionals you are speaking to aren't helping you then you should seek out some that will. Can you ask to speak to someone else that you may click with? Good luck.
  • Sunna_W
    Sunna_W Posts: 744 Member
    As a recovering anorexic, I am wondering if you have consulted a nutritionist or if you are in a support group or are you trying to do this on your own? The reason that I ask is that is having nutritional support along with a support group can be very helpful to your recovery.

    The weight gain is a result of a biochemical imbalance and is not your fault. There is nothing for you to feel guilty about. It is imperative though, in my opinion, that you enlist the help of some professionals to be part of your recovery team.

    Taking drugs that interfere with how you process food is not helpful and doesn't address the root causes of the disorder. Most of your serotonin is manufactured in your gut. (That is why you have a SSRI - to help with your serotonin). Inflammation, lack of healthy bacteria, parasites, allergies, etc. can all influence how you feel and relate to food depending on your genetics.

    Sometimes people never get to the root cause, but people do find ways to "power through" and strike a delicate balance and learn to live a fairly normal life.

    When we went through this with my daughter, (it turned out she has the bio-markers for celiac) she liked having a nutritionist helping her to develop her eating plan, and she was given "upper" and "lower" limits in terms of calories that helped her to maintain a healthy weight with foods that actually nourished her body. Her nutritionist also gave her a way to track / control, and record how she was feeling about each meal. (we didn't know about MFP).

    Also, she also had group therapy with other girls her age and the therapy was focused on meal planning / prep and dealing with feelings of anxiety around healthy eating, maintaining a healthy weight despite what they saw in the mirror, etc.

    I want to emphasize that this is a life long challenge and that while we can cheer for you we aren't professionals (speaking for myself) and this is really something that needs a nutritionist to help you with.
  • ccruz985
    ccruz985 Posts: 646 Member
    A group of girls in my office started taking it together until they started getting the runs and one literally pooped her pants. That's all I know about Alli.
  • ccruz985
    ccruz985 Posts: 646 Member
    Ready2Rock206 wrote: »
    Swapping one eating disorder (anorexia) for another (pills) doesn't sound like the best plan to me. Have a talk with your treatment team.

    Referring to taking pills as a disorder is a bit much.
  • singingflutelady
    singingflutelady Posts: 8,736 Member
    ccruz985 wrote: »
    Ready2Rock206 wrote: »
    Swapping one eating disorder (anorexia) for another (pills) doesn't sound like the best plan to me. Have a talk with your treatment team.

    Referring to taking pills as a disorder is a bit much.

    In this case it is part of her eating disorder though. Wanting fast weight loss no matter what the consequences are when she isn't even in the target group for those pills.
  • kshama2001
    kshama2001 Posts: 28,052 Member
    getfitpixi wrote: »
    Hey thanks guys
    Just to let you know I'm just trying the alli for a month to shift this weight as it doesn't seem to be going anywhere.
    I have reduced my diet but used to have phobias of eating fat but using alli I feel like I can do a small degree.
    I'm just trying to ensure a swift, but non-starvation style weight loss. It's really crucial to my self esteem.
    If any other supplements or ideas could be suggested I'd appreciate that.
    I also had to use the sleep medication melatonin for bounds of insomnia. I'm almost certain this resulted in weight gain.
    I honestly feel that medication has been a big contributor and so I'm abit clueless about how to get it off as it's unexpected gain :(

    My mother has taken melatonin for decades and she is under weight.

    I take melatonin as well. Sleep deprivation can lead me to overeat but a good night's sleep does not.
  • janejellyroll
    janejellyroll Posts: 25,763 Member
    kshama2001 wrote: »
    getfitpixi wrote: »
    Hey thanks guys
    Just to let you know I'm just trying the alli for a month to shift this weight as it doesn't seem to be going anywhere.
    I have reduced my diet but used to have phobias of eating fat but using alli I feel like I can do a small degree.
    I'm just trying to ensure a swift, but non-starvation style weight loss. It's really crucial to my self esteem.
    If any other supplements or ideas could be suggested I'd appreciate that.
    I also had to use the sleep medication melatonin for bounds of insomnia. I'm almost certain this resulted in weight gain.
    I honestly feel that medication has been a big contributor and so I'm abit clueless about how to get it off as it's unexpected gain :(

    My mother has taken melatonin for decades and she is under weight.

    I take melatonin as well. Sleep deprivation can lead me to overeat but a good night's sleep does not.

    I take melatonin several nights a week and maintain a normal weight. I'm in the same boat you are -- if I don't get enough sleep, I have urges to overeat the next day.
  • Mr_Knight
    Mr_Knight Posts: 9,532 Member
    getfitpixi wrote: »
    ...to ensure a swift, but non-starvation style weight loss.

    Sigh.

  • getfitpixi
    getfitpixi Posts: 34 Member
    Im aware I'm not being PC about this but I felt obliged to tell you the whole truth. I'm not taking xenical so I'm taking alli which is half strength. I honestly don't eat much fat so I have not been having horrible side effects.
    But I do take the liver damage stuff seriously. So I think I won't take the full supply but perhaps use it for when I know I've over done the fat.
  • getfitpixi
    getfitpixi Posts: 34 Member
    To be fair I have visited my doc and admitted a weight gain and a great deal of shame with it.
    He told me he didn't feel I was unhealthy and felt it was a number on the scale or vanity based concern.
    Possibly true.
    He has set up some blood tests for me to check on any underlying issues that could have caused the gain.
    I know I've been getting sore thighs and back ache from carrying this extra weight.
    I've had an extremely stressful year and this has contributed.
    I feel I can continue with my melatonin though which is nice.
    I am pretty sure I have BDD and I know I need to address it.
    What do you guys think of alli for a few weeks and then only used for fatty meals?
    I have decided to stick to a strict exercise regime to burn around 800 a day. Simply skipping and yoga.
  • getfitpixi
    getfitpixi Posts: 34 Member
    What kind of health conditions or issues can cause rapid weight gain?
    I've been dieting since I gained it and am unable to shift the weight. It's stubborn! :neutral:
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