Weight gain due to muscle mass?
seerofsorrow
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I am currently gaining weight and I enter everything super faithfully I excercise 1 hour a day and don't include it in my calorie budget but I'm gaining weight. Is it really true that muscle weighs more than fat? And if so what's the best way to see how much fat I'm burning without a scale
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How are you measuring the food you enter? are you estimating or weighing? Muscle is more dense than fat, but it's more likely that you are eating more than you think and gaining weight as a result.
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A pound is a pound - whether it is muscle or fat. If you're in a deficit you're not going to be building lots of muscle mass. Maybe water retention or you're eating more than you think or a combo of both.7
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A pound of each weighs the same, but fat takes up more space than muscle. One option if you're asking these questions and can't tell for yourself through observation is to find a gym, weight loss shop, or other provider who might have a measurement system (like DEXA, InBody, etc) to distinguish between fat, lean, and water so you get a more granular breakdown of what you're made of.3
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A woman who is following a progressive overload lifting program and eating at a surplus and is doing everything right can only gain maybe 1 lb a month of muscle if they are lucky. The chances of you gaining weight because of muscle are slim. Do you weigh all your good using a food scale?
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if you are gaining weight you are also gaining fat. if you are gaining weight you really arent burning fat.so theres no way to tell how much you are burning,even if you were losing there is no way to tell, if you are in a deficit you shouldnt be gaining unless its water retention from too much sodium,waste,that time of the month,increase in exercise ,etc which is not true weight. you can try a measuring tape but if you are gaining the tape numbers will go up. what are you trying to accomplish? just weight gain? or muscle gain? or?4
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To answer some of the questions I am trying to slim down. I am doing 2 hours of MMA gym a week and three hours of pole class a week. I'm also doing about 1/2 hour of yoga a day (I don't really count that as excercise though) my pants are starting to fall off but the scale says I gained 7 pounds in two weeks. And yes I am measuring everything I eat very carefully. Mostly I just wanna know if I am gaining weight due to muscle mass how to know the best way to track my progress towards sliming down5
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This has happened before in the past and I stopped going to the gym/excersising because I couldn't figure out why the scale would t budge1
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Fat is more dense (how much space a certain weight of a substance takes up) than muscle. so, to put it in common volumes, 1 cup (8 fluid ounces) of fat will weigh less than 1 cup (8 fluid ounces) of muscle. the muscle is more dense... it has more "stuff" per unit volume... however 1 pound of fat weighs the same as 1 pound of muscle.
regardless, i'm assuming you're a woman and not on anabolic steroids. you're not gaining a significant amount of muscle in even a month's worth of time. so if the scale is consistently up (not just a fluctuation over the course of 1-5 days), then you're eating too many calories and gaining fat along with water.5 -
seerofsorrow wrote: »To answer some of the questions I am trying to slim down. I am doing 2 hours of MMA gym a week and three hours of pole class a week. I'm also doing about 1/2 hour of yoga a day (I don't really count that as excercise though) my pants are starting to fall off but the scale says I gained 7 pounds in two weeks. And yes I am measuring everything I eat very carefully. Mostly I just wanna know if I am gaining weight due to muscle mass how to know the best way to track my progress towards sliming down
then if you are losing weight you are losing fat but I doubt you are gaining muscle,the weight gain could be water retention for many reasons that I stated above. to gain muscle you need to be in a recomp(eating maintenance calories and following a progressive lifting program) or in a surplus of calories.MMA and pole classes arent really going to build much if any muscle. if your clothes are getting bigger and you are gaining weight its not going to be muscle as you cant lose say 5 lbs of fat and gain 5 lbs of muscle at the same time.how many calories a day do you eat?3 -
CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »seerofsorrow wrote: »To answer some of the questions I am trying to slim down. I am doing 2 hours of MMA gym a week and three hours of pole class a week. I'm also doing about 1/2 hour of yoga a day (I don't really count that as excercise though) my pants are starting to fall off but the scale says I gained 7 pounds in two weeks. And yes I am measuring everything I eat very carefully. Mostly I just wanna know if I am gaining weight due to muscle mass how to know the best way to track my progress towards sliming down
then if you are losing weight you are losing fat but I doubt you are gaining muscle,the weight gain could be water retention for many reasons that I stated above. to gain muscle you need to be in a recomp(eating maintenance calories and following a progressive lifting program) or in a surplus of calories.MMA and pole classes arent really going to build much if any muscle. if your clothes are getting bigger and you are gaining weight its not going to be muscle as you cant lose say 5 lbs of fat and gain 5 lbs of muscle at the same time.how many calories a day do you eat?
Pole classes might. MMA won't.
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stanmann571 wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »seerofsorrow wrote: »To answer some of the questions I am trying to slim down. I am doing 2 hours of MMA gym a week and three hours of pole class a week. I'm also doing about 1/2 hour of yoga a day (I don't really count that as excercise though) my pants are starting to fall off but the scale says I gained 7 pounds in two weeks. And yes I am measuring everything I eat very carefully. Mostly I just wanna know if I am gaining weight due to muscle mass how to know the best way to track my progress towards sliming down
then if you are losing weight you are losing fat but I doubt you are gaining muscle,the weight gain could be water retention for many reasons that I stated above. to gain muscle you need to be in a recomp(eating maintenance calories and following a progressive lifting program) or in a surplus of calories.MMA and pole classes arent really going to build much if any muscle. if your clothes are getting bigger and you are gaining weight its not going to be muscle as you cant lose say 5 lbs of fat and gain 5 lbs of muscle at the same time.how many calories a day do you eat?
Pole classes might. MMA won't.
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stanmann571 wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »seerofsorrow wrote: »To answer some of the questions I am trying to slim down. I am doing 2 hours of MMA gym a week and three hours of pole class a week. I'm also doing about 1/2 hour of yoga a day (I don't really count that as excercise though) my pants are starting to fall off but the scale says I gained 7 pounds in two weeks. And yes I am measuring everything I eat very carefully. Mostly I just wanna know if I am gaining weight due to muscle mass how to know the best way to track my progress towards sliming down
then if you are losing weight you are losing fat but I doubt you are gaining muscle,the weight gain could be water retention for many reasons that I stated above. to gain muscle you need to be in a recomp(eating maintenance calories and following a progressive lifting program) or in a surplus of calories.MMA and pole classes arent really going to build much if any muscle. if your clothes are getting bigger and you are gaining weight its not going to be muscle as you cant lose say 5 lbs of fat and gain 5 lbs of muscle at the same time.how many calories a day do you eat?
Pole classes might. MMA won't.
its not going to be enough to make the scale go up 7 lbs in 2 weeks.I doubt a female who is on the "juice" would even gain that quickly in 2 weeks
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seerofsorrow wrote: »To answer some of the questions I am trying to slim down. I am doing 2 hours of MMA gym a week and three hours of pole class a week. I'm also doing about 1/2 hour of yoga a day (I don't really count that as excercise though) my pants are starting to fall off but the scale says I gained 7 pounds in two weeks. And yes I am measuring everything I eat very carefully. Mostly I just wanna know if I am gaining weight due to muscle mass how to know the best way to track my progress towards sliming down
Does measuring involve using a food scale? Can you open up your food diary? It could be fluid retention.5 -
singingflutelady wrote: »stanmann571 wrote: »CharlieBeansmomTracey wrote: »seerofsorrow wrote: »To answer some of the questions I am trying to slim down. I am doing 2 hours of MMA gym a week and three hours of pole class a week. I'm also doing about 1/2 hour of yoga a day (I don't really count that as excercise though) my pants are starting to fall off but the scale says I gained 7 pounds in two weeks. And yes I am measuring everything I eat very carefully. Mostly I just wanna know if I am gaining weight due to muscle mass how to know the best way to track my progress towards sliming down
then if you are losing weight you are losing fat but I doubt you are gaining muscle,the weight gain could be water retention for many reasons that I stated above. to gain muscle you need to be in a recomp(eating maintenance calories and following a progressive lifting program) or in a surplus of calories.MMA and pole classes arent really going to build much if any muscle. if your clothes are getting bigger and you are gaining weight its not going to be muscle as you cant lose say 5 lbs of fat and gain 5 lbs of muscle at the same time.how many calories a day do you eat?
Pole classes might. MMA won't.
But definitely nowhere in the range of 7 lbs in 2 weeks
True, I overlooked the time scale, You're correct, as is @CharlieBeansmomTracey2 -
Do you track your cycle? If not you should start. I retain water during ovulation and the scales slowly creep up for 5 - 10 days. After this I have a "woosh" and drop 1 - 4 lbs during the next week. This could be the issue assuming you are tracking correctly.
The gain is water weight or fat but not muscle. You cannot gain 7 lbs of muscle that fast. Your muscles may be sore and retaining water while healing from exercise. Good luck.8 -
Yes and no. 1lbs of muscle weighs exactly the same as 1lb of fat. But, 1lb of muscle is much smaller than 1lb of fat. So, if you are gain 1lb of muscle and lose 1lb of fat, you will get leaner even though your weight stays the same. I doubt that much gain is muscle and/or fat, it is most likely water and is normal. If you want a more accurate measurement, measure yourself (hips, waist, arms, thighs, calves). If your measurements go down you know you are losing fat, regardless of what the scale says, the waist is usually the most accurate as it's very hard to increase waist size with muscle gains (certain bodybuilders do, but that's usually due to anabolic steroids and extreme training).4
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Food scale. Buy one. Use it religiously.8
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It would be incredibly difficult to gain that amount of fat in just two weeks and impossible to gain that much muscle in two weeks. To have gained that much fat you would need to have eaten an excess of around 24,500 calories over your maintenance over those two weeks. More likely it is mostly water retention and possibly a little fat depending on how accurately you are weighing your food and logging.4
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Wish I could gain a pound of muscle that easy5
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seerofsorrow wrote: »To answer some of the questions I am trying to slim down. I am doing 2 hours of MMA gym a week and three hours of pole class a week. I'm also doing about 1/2 hour of yoga a day (I don't really count that as excercise though) my pants are starting to fall off but the scale says I gained 7 pounds in two weeks. And yes I am measuring everything I eat very carefully. Mostly I just wanna know if I am gaining weight due to muscle mass how to know the best way to track my progress towards sliming down
If your pants are falling off, who cares what the scale says? Take some measurements of your body and compare again in a month.
The exercise regimen is new, yes? You're likely retaining water from that. I myself gained 7 pounds of water weight when I started weightlifting. Came off in a few weeks. Be patient
Where are you in your menstrual cycle? I gain at ovulation and right before my TOM. Because of this (and because Lyle McDonald said to) I compare myself to last month, not last week.
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Ironandwine69 wrote: »Wish I could gain a pound of muscle that easy
Same here!!!! Which I why I find it rather funny when people try to tell me that I'm going to "bulk up" or "look like a man" because I lift. They have no idea how hard it is to just gain 5lbs of muscle - for a man, who has a lot of testosterone (unlike me).3 -
BabyBear76 wrote: »Yes and no. 1lbs of muscle weighs exactly the same as 1lb of fat. But, 1lb of muscle is much smaller than 1lb of fat. So, if you are gain 1lb of muscle and lose 1lb of fat, you will get leaner even though your weight stays the same. I doubt that much gain is muscle and/or fat, it is most likely water and is normal. If you want a more accurate measurement, measure yourself (hips, waist, arms, thighs, calves). If your measurements go down you know you are losing fat, regardless of what the scale says, the waist is usually the most accurate as it's very hard to increase waist size with muscle gains (certain bodybuilders do, but that's usually due to anabolic steroids and extreme training).
A lot of people say that, but it's not as true as many think. From a recent article by Bret Contreras:
[ETA:] And no, the OP didn't gain 7 pounds of muscle in 2 weeks. Not even on a heavy weightlifting routine with anabolic steroids involved.
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seerofsorrow wrote: »To answer some of the questions I am trying to slim down. I am doing 2 hours of MMA gym a week and three hours of pole class a week. I'm also doing about 1/2 hour of yoga a day (I don't really count that as excercise though) my pants are starting to fall off but the scale says I gained 7 pounds in two weeks. And yes I am measuring everything I eat very carefully. Mostly I just wanna know if I am gaining weight due to muscle mass how to know the best way to track my progress towards sliming down
So, stop using a scale to measure your progress. Instead get a measuring tape and take your measurements. Also take a photo. Then in 3-5 weeks take your measurements again and take a new picture. If your clothing is getting loose, then you are likely losing fat, even if the scale isn't showing it. It is highly unlikely you are gaining muscle. It is far more likely you are retaining water. Frankly, who cares what the scale saying if you are getting smaller.3 -
BabyBear76 wrote: »Yes and no. 1lbs of muscle weighs exactly the same as 1lb of fat. But, 1lb of muscle is much smaller than 1lb of fat. So, if you are gain 1lb of muscle and lose 1lb of fat, you will get leaner even though your weight stays the same. I doubt that much gain is muscle and/or fat, it is most likely water and is normal. If you want a more accurate measurement, measure yourself (hips, waist, arms, thighs, calves). If your measurements go down you know you are losing fat, regardless of what the scale says, the waist is usually the most accurate as it's very hard to increase waist size with muscle gains (certain bodybuilders do, but that's usually due to anabolic steroids and extreme training).
A lot of people say that, but it's not as true as many think. From a recent article by Bret Contreras:
[ETA:] And no, the OP didn't gain 7 pounds of muscle in 2 weeks. Not even on a heavy weightlifting routine with anabolic steroids involved.
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I never said how much more room muscle takes up than fat. I didn't know the exact amount, but I do know that it is denser. That why I also said that it is most likely water retention, which is perfectly normal. There's also the issue of being a woman, and every woman knows that her weight can easily swing 5lbs depending on what day of the month it is.
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It can be muscle mass if you weight train. I've gained muscle mass while losing weight. Don't listen to people that say you can't lose weight and build muscle . They don't know what their talking about so it's bull . Whenever weight stall on the scale it's because the muscle percentage went up . However if it is muscle it wouldn't be 7lbs . Weight fluctuations happen and it can be because you still have food in your system or just simply your sodium intake20
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HarlemNY17 wrote: »It can be muscle mass if you weight train. I've gained muscle mass while losing weight. Don't listen to people that say you can't lose weight and build muscle . They don't know what their talking about so it's bull . Whenever weight stall on the scale it's because the muscle percentage went up . However if it is muscle it wouldn't be 7lbs . Weight fluctuations happen and it can be because you still have food in your system or just simply your sodium intake
you keep telling people in every thread this and you are completely wrong. a woman is not going to put on appreciable muscle mass while eating at a deficit. certainly not in 2 weeks and certainly not anywhere near 7 lbs. as someone else said, a woman doing everything right AND on a progressive lifting program would be fortunate to put 1 lbs of muscle on in a month. OP mentioned nothing about a progressive lifting program.13 -
HarlemNY17 wrote: »It can be muscle mass if you weight train. I've gained muscle mass while losing weight. Don't listen to people that say you can't lose weight and build muscle . They don't know what their talking about so it's bull . Whenever weight stall on the scale it's because the muscle percentage went up . However if it is muscle it wouldn't be 7lbs . Weight fluctuations happen and it can be because you still have food in your system or just simply your sodium intake
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seerofsorrow wrote: »To answer some of the questions I am trying to slim down. I am doing 2 hours of MMA gym a week and three hours of pole class a week. I'm also doing about 1/2 hour of yoga a day (I don't really count that as excercise though) my pants are starting to fall off but the scale says I gained 7 pounds in two weeks. And yes I am measuring everything I eat very carefully. Mostly I just wanna know if I am gaining weight due to muscle mass how to know the best way to track my progress towards sliming down
To gain weight, you are eating more than you burn. This applies to both muscle and fat.
Now, to gain 7 lbs of muscle in 2 weeks .... just no. Especially as a woman, and with no serious weight training, I doubt this would be possible in 2 years.4 -
It's possible to gain that much in a short time, but only in extremely unlikely circumstances, like if you go from an extremely sedentary/minimal caloric intake situation like being bedridden in a hospital to a heavily active/surplus caloric intake situation. But in this case you're regaining the muscle lost during the hospital stay (and most likely some fat as well).3
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Muscleflex79 wrote: »HarlemNY17 wrote: »It can be muscle mass if you weight train. I've gained muscle mass while losing weight. Don't listen to people that say you can't lose weight and build muscle . They don't know what their talking about so it's bull . Whenever weight stall on the scale it's because the muscle percentage went up . However if it is muscle it wouldn't be 7lbs . Weight fluctuations happen and it can be because you still have food in your system or just simply your sodium intake
you keep telling people in every thread this and you are completely wrong. a woman is not going to put on appreciable muscle mass while eating at a deficit. certainly not in 2 weeks and certainly not anywhere near 7 lbs. as someone else said, a woman doing everything right AND on a progressive lifting program would be fortunate to put 1 lbs of muscle on in a month. OP mentioned nothing about a progressive lifting program.
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