How does all this calorie counting work??
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Silentpadna wrote: »nicci288693 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »nicci288693 wrote: »Silentpadna wrote: »nicci288693 wrote: »My fitnesspal counter gave me 1800 but I want to drop weight and since I work out, calorie in and calorie out...so I chose to lower my intake. I'm lost lol
Then you should eat 1800. Faster does NOT equal better in this game.
In fact, if the more you exercise, the more you should eat.
I exercise every day both cardio and strength training. I started out cutting carbs, which cut calories significantly, it also suppresses my appitite. So how do I get more calories if I'm just not hungry?
Ice cream, peanut butter, chocolate... I could go on.
I eat peanut butter I'm obese and want to lose 80 pounds, so ice cream is not an option
Sure it is.
But not if you want to do use ketosis as your means. I eat ice cream on occasion. I eat chocolate chip cookies just about every day. I'm 50 pounds in 7 months. As long as eat less than I burn, over time, I lose weight.
It's thermodynamics in action.
I'm doing very low carb so it's won't work. Don't get me wrong though, I love me some ice cream3 -
nicci288693 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »nicci288693 wrote: »Silentpadna wrote: »nicci288693 wrote: »My fitnesspal counter gave me 1800 but I want to drop weight and since I work out, calorie in and calorie out...so I chose to lower my intake. I'm lost lol
Then you should eat 1800. Faster does NOT equal better in this game.
In fact, if the more you exercise, the more you should eat.
I exercise every day both cardio and strength training. I started out cutting carbs, which cut calories significantly, it also suppresses my appitite. So how do I get more calories if I'm just not hungry?
Ice cream, peanut butter, chocolate... I could go on.
I eat peanut butter I'm obese and want to lose 80 pounds, so ice cream is not an option
If you're in a calorie deficit, you will lose weight even if you're eating some ice cream.4 -
Hate to break it to you, but peanut butter (100 grams, 588 calories) has almost three times the calories than ice cream (100 grams, 207 calories). You may be eating 1800+ calories a day.7
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Silentpadna wrote: »nicci288693 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »nicci288693 wrote: »Silentpadna wrote: »nicci288693 wrote: »My fitnesspal counter gave me 1800 but I want to drop weight and since I work out, calorie in and calorie out...so I chose to lower my intake. I'm lost lol
Then you should eat 1800. Faster does NOT equal better in this game.
In fact, if the more you exercise, the more you should eat.
I exercise every day both cardio and strength training. I started out cutting carbs, which cut calories significantly, it also suppresses my appitite. So how do I get more calories if I'm just not hungry?
If your carbohydrate restriction leaves you with so little appetite that you can't consume the calories you need to support your activity, it may not be the right plan for you.
Thank you. I'm doing keto and I started out not counting calories, but figured maybe it would help. I feel great and have lots of energy. I don't feel like I'm under eating, but maybe
Don't necessarily go by "feeling energetic". If you are eating at too big of a deficit, the effects (bad ones) don't come initially. That's part of the reason weighing and measuring are preached so much here. It's better to know than to feel when it comes to this.
Go keto if you like. It works based on a calorie deficit. Workout however much you want to be fit. Lose weight moderately based on deficit. Eat enough to fuel your needs. Without even looking at a TDEE calculator, I am betting 1500 (at 278 lbs and exercise) isn't near enough.
I think I'll bump it back up to 18001 -
nicci288693 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »nicci288693 wrote: »Silentpadna wrote: »nicci288693 wrote: »My fitnesspal counter gave me 1800 but I want to drop weight and since I work out, calorie in and calorie out...so I chose to lower my intake. I'm lost lol
Then you should eat 1800. Faster does NOT equal better in this game.
In fact, if the more you exercise, the more you should eat.
I exercise every day both cardio and strength training. I started out cutting carbs, which cut calories significantly, it also suppresses my appitite. So how do I get more calories if I'm just not hungry?
Ice cream, peanut butter, chocolate... I could go on.
I eat peanut butter I'm obese and want to lose 80 pounds, so ice cream is not an option
I'm obese too, and have lost 70lbs. I eat ice cream like... 5+ nights a week. Some times "diet" ones like Skinny Cow and Halo top. Usually regular. Sometimes, gourmet from an ice cream shop.3 -
ashliedelgado wrote: »nicci288693 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »nicci288693 wrote: »Silentpadna wrote: »nicci288693 wrote: »My fitnesspal counter gave me 1800 but I want to drop weight and since I work out, calorie in and calorie out...so I chose to lower my intake. I'm lost lol
Then you should eat 1800. Faster does NOT equal better in this game.
In fact, if the more you exercise, the more you should eat.
I exercise every day both cardio and strength training. I started out cutting carbs, which cut calories significantly, it also suppresses my appitite. So how do I get more calories if I'm just not hungry?
Ice cream, peanut butter, chocolate... I could go on.
I eat peanut butter I'm obese and want to lose 80 pounds, so ice cream is not an option
I'm obese too, and have lost 70lbs. I eat ice cream like... 5+ nights a week. Some times "diet" ones like Skinny Cow and Halo top. Usually regular. Sometimes, gourmet from an ice cream shop.
Do mind telling me your diet plan? What do you eat and what are your restrictions?0 -
janejellyroll wrote: »nicci288693 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »nicci288693 wrote: »Silentpadna wrote: »nicci288693 wrote: »My fitnesspal counter gave me 1800 but I want to drop weight and since I work out, calorie in and calorie out...so I chose to lower my intake. I'm lost lol
Then you should eat 1800. Faster does NOT equal better in this game.
In fact, if the more you exercise, the more you should eat.
I exercise every day both cardio and strength training. I started out cutting carbs, which cut calories significantly, it also suppresses my appitite. So how do I get more calories if I'm just not hungry?
Ice cream, peanut butter, chocolate... I could go on.
I eat peanut butter I'm obese and want to lose 80 pounds, so ice cream is not an option
If you're in a calorie deficit, you will lose weight even if you're eating some ice cream.
I'm low carb low calorie though, ice cream is high carb high sugar2 -
nicci288693 wrote: »Silentpadna wrote: »nicci288693 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »nicci288693 wrote: »Silentpadna wrote: »nicci288693 wrote: »My fitnesspal counter gave me 1800 but I want to drop weight and since I work out, calorie in and calorie out...so I chose to lower my intake. I'm lost lol
Then you should eat 1800. Faster does NOT equal better in this game.
In fact, if the more you exercise, the more you should eat.
I exercise every day both cardio and strength training. I started out cutting carbs, which cut calories significantly, it also suppresses my appitite. So how do I get more calories if I'm just not hungry?
Ice cream, peanut butter, chocolate... I could go on.
I eat peanut butter I'm obese and want to lose 80 pounds, so ice cream is not an option
Sure it is.
But not if you want to do use ketosis as your means. I eat ice cream on occasion. I eat chocolate chip cookies just about every day. I'm 50 pounds in 7 months. As long as eat less than I burn, over time, I lose weight.
It's thermodynamics in action.
I'm doing very low carb so it's won't work. Don't get me wrong though, I love me some ice cream
Not trying to talk you out of keto....it works. But it works by energy balance, just like any other plan. I understand you can't do ice cream if you are doing keto.
Now...lots of peanut butter brands have sugar, so if you are eating that, you should be aware of it and planning accordingly.
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nicci288693 wrote: »janejellyroll wrote: »nicci288693 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »nicci288693 wrote: »Silentpadna wrote: »nicci288693 wrote: »My fitnesspal counter gave me 1800 but I want to drop weight and since I work out, calorie in and calorie out...so I chose to lower my intake. I'm lost lol
Then you should eat 1800. Faster does NOT equal better in this game.
In fact, if the more you exercise, the more you should eat.
I exercise every day both cardio and strength training. I started out cutting carbs, which cut calories significantly, it also suppresses my appitite. So how do I get more calories if I'm just not hungry?
Ice cream, peanut butter, chocolate... I could go on.
I eat peanut butter I'm obese and want to lose 80 pounds, so ice cream is not an option
If you're in a calorie deficit, you will lose weight even if you're eating some ice cream.
I'm low carb low calorie though, ice cream is high carb high sugar
I get that, I'm just pointing out that you wanting to lose 80 pounds doesn't mean it isn't an option. If you don't want ice cream, find some calorie-dense foods that fit into your restrictions.2 -
Silentpadna wrote: »nicci288693 wrote: »Silentpadna wrote: »nicci288693 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »nicci288693 wrote: »Silentpadna wrote: »nicci288693 wrote: »My fitnesspal counter gave me 1800 but I want to drop weight and since I work out, calorie in and calorie out...so I chose to lower my intake. I'm lost lol
Then you should eat 1800. Faster does NOT equal better in this game.
In fact, if the more you exercise, the more you should eat.
I exercise every day both cardio and strength training. I started out cutting carbs, which cut calories significantly, it also suppresses my appitite. So how do I get more calories if I'm just not hungry?
Ice cream, peanut butter, chocolate... I could go on.
I eat peanut butter I'm obese and want to lose 80 pounds, so ice cream is not an option
Sure it is.
But not if you want to do use ketosis as your means. I eat ice cream on occasion. I eat chocolate chip cookies just about every day. I'm 50 pounds in 7 months. As long as eat less than I burn, over time, I lose weight.
It's thermodynamics in action.
I'm doing very low carb so it's won't work. Don't get me wrong though, I love me some ice cream
Not trying to talk you out of keto....it works. But it works by energy balance, just like any other plan. I understand you can't do ice cream if you are doing keto.
Now...lots of peanut butter brands have sugar, so if you are eating that, you should be aware of it and planning accordingly.
I don't eat much, I'll eat it on an apple every once in a while. Both are higher on carbs, so not often. I'd rather eat sugar through my peanut butter and apple intake, than with junk food like ice cream. Props to those who can get away with eating ice cream though, I just can't.4 -
nicci288693 wrote: »ashliedelgado wrote: »nicci288693 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »nicci288693 wrote: »Silentpadna wrote: »nicci288693 wrote: »My fitnesspal counter gave me 1800 but I want to drop weight and since I work out, calorie in and calorie out...so I chose to lower my intake. I'm lost lol
Then you should eat 1800. Faster does NOT equal better in this game.
In fact, if the more you exercise, the more you should eat.
I exercise every day both cardio and strength training. I started out cutting carbs, which cut calories significantly, it also suppresses my appitite. So how do I get more calories if I'm just not hungry?
Ice cream, peanut butter, chocolate... I could go on.
I eat peanut butter I'm obese and want to lose 80 pounds, so ice cream is not an option
I'm obese too, and have lost 70lbs. I eat ice cream like... 5+ nights a week. Some times "diet" ones like Skinny Cow and Halo top. Usually regular. Sometimes, gourmet from an ice cream shop.
Do mind telling me your diet plan? What do you eat and what are your restrictions?
Like you will hear from many - I eat what I want with in my calories. If I can't weigh (or am too lazy, which has been the case lately), I estimate the best I can. I try to move for at least 30 minutes 3x a week, but I really aim for 5.
I have found success with waiting to eat anything until after 12pm because I tend to be a volume eater. Also to combat that, I try and drink a lot of water throughout the day and right before meal time, and will try and eat a hefty salad with at least one of my main meals.0 -
ashliedelgado wrote: »nicci288693 wrote: »ashliedelgado wrote: »nicci288693 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »nicci288693 wrote: »Silentpadna wrote: »nicci288693 wrote: »My fitnesspal counter gave me 1800 but I want to drop weight and since I work out, calorie in and calorie out...so I chose to lower my intake. I'm lost lol
Then you should eat 1800. Faster does NOT equal better in this game.
In fact, if the more you exercise, the more you should eat.
I exercise every day both cardio and strength training. I started out cutting carbs, which cut calories significantly, it also suppresses my appitite. So how do I get more calories if I'm just not hungry?
Ice cream, peanut butter, chocolate... I could go on.
I eat peanut butter I'm obese and want to lose 80 pounds, so ice cream is not an option
I'm obese too, and have lost 70lbs. I eat ice cream like... 5+ nights a week. Some times "diet" ones like Skinny Cow and Halo top. Usually regular. Sometimes, gourmet from an ice cream shop.
Do mind telling me your diet plan? What do you eat and what are your restrictions?
Like you will hear from many - I eat what I want with in my calories. If I can't weigh (or am too lazy, which has been the case lately), I estimate the best I can. I try to move for at least 30 minutes 3x a week, but I really aim for 5.
I have found success with waiting to eat anything until after 12pm because I tend to be a volume eater. Also to combat that, I try and drink a lot of water throughout the day and right before meal time, and will try and eat a hefty salad with at least one of my main meals.
So you do intermittent fasting also or just not eating until 12? I'm trying intermittent fasting and it seems to work.0 -
OP, if you haven't, I highly recommend reading the stickied threads in the weight loss board. They will answer many of the questions you have asked here and in other threads. They discuss how mfp works, low carb, keto, IF, etc. and are a wealth of information.4
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nicci288693 wrote: »My fitnesspal counter gave me 1800 but I want to drop weight and since I work out, calorie in and calorie out...so I chose to lower my intake. I'm lost lol
The calorie amount MFP computes for you takes into account the rate at which you've said you want to lose weight. Particularly if you've said you want to lose 2 lbs/week, it's unwise to eat less than it recommends.
Don't worry about restricting macros like carbohydrates. For one thing, if you're going to be exercising you'll need carbs for fuel. For another, when it comes to weight loss calories are calories. Unless you have some kind of diagnosed metabolic disorder, as long as you're getting enough nutrition there's no need to further restrict your diet.3 -
nicci288693 wrote: »My fitnesspal counter gave me 1800 but I want to drop weight and since I work out, calorie in and calorie out...so I chose to lower my intake. I'm lost lol
The calorie amount MFP computes for you takes into account the rate at which you've said you want to lose weight. Particularly if you've said you want to lose 2 lbs/week, it's unwise to eat less than it recommends.
Don't worry about restricting macros like carbohydrates. For one thing, if you're going to be exercising you'll need carbs for fuel. For another, when it comes to weight loss calories are calories. Unless you have some kind of diagnosed metabolic disorder, as long as you're getting enough nutrition there's no need to further restrict your diet.
Keto diet restricts carbs significantly, which is the diet plan I follow1 -
[quote=I eat peanut butter I'm obese and want to lose 80 pounds, so ice cream is not an option[/quote]
I cringe that you think you can't have treats. Eat within your calorie limit and find room for treats. Losing weight is hard enough without enjoying the finer things in life. :-) Live by the 80/20 rule and you'll find losing weight a whole lot easier. I have lost 50 pounds and you can look at my diary and see that I still have chocolate bars/ice cream etc.2 -
[quote=I eat peanut butter I'm obese and want to lose 80 pounds, so ice cream is not an option
I cringe that you think you can't have treats. Eat within your calorie limit and find room for treats. Losing weight is hard enough without enjoying the finer things in life. :-) Live by the 80/20 rule and you'll find losing weight a whole lot easier. I have lost 50 pounds and you can look at my diary and see that I still have chocolate bars/ice cream etc. [/quote]
What is 80/20?1 -
nicci288693 wrote: »ashliedelgado wrote: »nicci288693 wrote: »ashliedelgado wrote: »nicci288693 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »nicci288693 wrote: »Silentpadna wrote: »nicci288693 wrote: »My fitnesspal counter gave me 1800 but I want to drop weight and since I work out, calorie in and calorie out...so I chose to lower my intake. I'm lost lol
Then you should eat 1800. Faster does NOT equal better in this game.
In fact, if the more you exercise, the more you should eat.
I exercise every day both cardio and strength training. I started out cutting carbs, which cut calories significantly, it also suppresses my appitite. So how do I get more calories if I'm just not hungry?
Ice cream, peanut butter, chocolate... I could go on.
I eat peanut butter I'm obese and want to lose 80 pounds, so ice cream is not an option
I'm obese too, and have lost 70lbs. I eat ice cream like... 5+ nights a week. Some times "diet" ones like Skinny Cow and Halo top. Usually regular. Sometimes, gourmet from an ice cream shop.
Do mind telling me your diet plan? What do you eat and what are your restrictions?
Like you will hear from many - I eat what I want with in my calories. If I can't weigh (or am too lazy, which has been the case lately), I estimate the best I can. I try to move for at least 30 minutes 3x a week, but I really aim for 5.
I have found success with waiting to eat anything until after 12pm because I tend to be a volume eater. Also to combat that, I try and drink a lot of water throughout the day and right before meal time, and will try and eat a hefty salad with at least one of my main meals.
So you do intermittent fasting also or just not eating until 12? I'm trying intermittent fasting and it seems to work.
Its not so rigid and scheduled as IF can be. I usually eat after 12, but I don't tend to structure when I stop eating. Sometimes I'm hungry and eat sooner. It all boils down to how many calories for weight management. How you get there doesn't really matter.1 -
nicci288693 wrote: »[quote=I eat peanut butter I'm obese and want to lose 80 pounds, so ice cream is not an option
I cringe that you think you can't have treats. Eat within your calorie limit and find room for treats. Losing weight is hard enough without enjoying the finer things in life. :-) Live by the 80/20 rule and you'll find losing weight a whole lot easier. I have lost 50 pounds and you can look at my diary and see that I still have chocolate bars/ice cream etc.
What is 80/20?[/quote]
80% of foods are what most would identify as healthy - fruits, veggies, lean proteins, whole grains, etc. 20% are "fun". Ice cream, lol.1 -
ashliedelgado wrote: »nicci288693 wrote: »ashliedelgado wrote: »nicci288693 wrote: »ashliedelgado wrote: »nicci288693 wrote: »quiksylver296 wrote: »nicci288693 wrote: »Silentpadna wrote: »nicci288693 wrote: »My fitnesspal counter gave me 1800 but I want to drop weight and since I work out, calorie in and calorie out...so I chose to lower my intake. I'm lost lol
Then you should eat 1800. Faster does NOT equal better in this game.
In fact, if the more you exercise, the more you should eat.
I exercise every day both cardio and strength training. I started out cutting carbs, which cut calories significantly, it also suppresses my appitite. So how do I get more calories if I'm just not hungry?
Ice cream, peanut butter, chocolate... I could go on.
I eat peanut butter I'm obese and want to lose 80 pounds, so ice cream is not an option
I'm obese too, and have lost 70lbs. I eat ice cream like... 5+ nights a week. Some times "diet" ones like Skinny Cow and Halo top. Usually regular. Sometimes, gourmet from an ice cream shop.
Do mind telling me your diet plan? What do you eat and what are your restrictions?
Like you will hear from many - I eat what I want with in my calories. If I can't weigh (or am too lazy, which has been the case lately), I estimate the best I can. I try to move for at least 30 minutes 3x a week, but I really aim for 5.
I have found success with waiting to eat anything until after 12pm because I tend to be a volume eater. Also to combat that, I try and drink a lot of water throughout the day and right before meal time, and will try and eat a hefty salad with at least one of my main meals.
So you do intermittent fasting also or just not eating until 12? I'm trying intermittent fasting and it seems to work.
Its not so rigid and scheduled as IF can be. I usually eat after 12, but I don't tend to structure when I stop eating. Sometimes I'm hungry and eat sooner. It all boils down to how many calories for weight management. How you get there doesn't really matter.
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