Keto, anyone?

ikeandmike1212 · September 2017

I stumbled on Keto doing research about internal inflammation. In doing this research I found a doctor on Youtube who addresses so many health issues, that seem to have poor/deficient nutrition as a root cause.
Processed foods that are quick ad easy to obtain, that seem to save time, are filled with ingredients that our bodies were not designed to ingest. In the meantime, we are starving at the cellular level as our insulin levels climb.
Have you ever noticed that after you eat home-cooked meals for a while and then consume food from a restaurant, how you can taste the chemicals in the food? If all things are equal and chicken is chicken, why does the chicken you cook at home taste like chicken but the restaurant chicken tastes like something else???? Hmm...

hhfromga · September 2017

Just wanted to peek in and say Hi! Been on low carb since February, Keto since March. I've lost about 50lbs, and many many inches. It certainly is a pain those first few days, but becomes so much easier as you go.

Congrats on your success so far!

ikeandmike1212 · September 2017

Hello kwcrane,

You can do internet searches and I'm sure, you'll find lots of information on Keto meal planning. I follow Dr. Berg on Youtube. He does an excellent job of explaining why as we grow older, weight loss is definitely harder but not impossible. He explains that nutritional deficiencies are the underlying cause for most ill health effects and how excess sugar in our bodies cause insulin resistance (fat mid section) and out of control weight gain. His videos are usually 2-3 minutes long, easy to understand and extremely informative. I watched ALL of his videos before I began my journey and I haven't had any problems. Go to Youtube, in the search function, enter "Dr. Berg, Keto". You will not be disappointed.
As for your weight loss goals, it seems that you are on the same track as I am. I am so thrilled to have lost 26 lbs after years of weight loss deprivation and failure.

I think we can do it!

Neaton2965 · September 2017

Wow amazing thanks for sharing. I too am going through a journey and would love to be a part of a keto community. May I ask how did you get started. I'm so glad I read your post. Have a great day.

Neaton2965 · September 2017

Thanks for the tip watching Dr. Berg. Also I too have no gallbladder maybe I too need to try ox bile to digest fats.

JustRobby1 · September 2017

It's important that new people understand what fad diets are, and what they are not. Keto, like any other named regimen out there is only as successful as it's ability to produce a caloric deficit. This is illustrated in the attached chart. From a weight loss standpoint, you won't lose any more weight by following a fad diet provided the calories are the same. This aside, there are plenty of subjective reports from followers that "I feel more full" or something similar. If that's you, great! But don't fall into the trap of thinking you can only lose weight on a fad diet. It's a trap I know well from past experience.

Perhaps more importantly is that new people get out of the mindset of "diet" entirely. In order to be successful the change needs to be of the lifestyle variety and one that can be sustained indefinitely. The chances of a person staying on keto for life are infinitesimally small. Such restrictions would be not only inconvenient to living any kind of a normal life, but you would also become so bored with it you would want to shoot yourself. Being on a weight loss journey and tracking calories is stressful enough for someone new to this, without adding the additional frustrations that come with adding restrictions. Most people who start a weight loss journey here or anywhere else will fail. That is the sad but true reality. The reason for this high rate of attrition is largely due to unrealistic expectations and people going about it with the wrong mindset. Just something to think about.

dmsl977 · September 2017

I just started keto a few days ago and already can tell a difference! It definitely requires planning and forethought, which in turn keeps me from mindless eating whatever is convenient. Please add me as a friend! I would like to have more support through this journey.

ikeandmike1212 · September 2017

JustRobby, I agree with everything you posted but in the quest for better health, everyone has the option to pursue what works for them.

In my writings here, there is no way I can convey to anyone the pain I felt every time I took a single bite of food, and finding that accessing medical assistance proved to be futile and I was getting worse every day.

Is Keto restrictive? Yes. But on the other hand, when I was eating whatever I wanted to, that very freedom is what got me to where I was. Sick and getting sicker. Therefore, I am prepared to deal with those restrictions. Am I saying that I will never eat another piece of fruit or a sweet potato? No. Gradually those items can be added back to my meals gradually, over time. will I return to eating cakes, cookies, and other refined and process "foods"...No

While ketogenic eating has produced weight loss for me, I had other issues that were not being addressed, so that weight loss was just one issue. I personally have chosen my health over eating things that are marketed as food that led to decline in my health.

As I have stated before, everyone has to choose what they feel is right for them. Do your own research. If ketogenic meal consumption is doesn't work or one feels that tracking meals and choosing what to or not to eat is too cumbersome, then don't do it.

GlassAngyl · September 2017

Keto isn't considered a fad diet. It's a commitment to a lifestyle change. And the minority's of ppl who have tried did see a reduction in hunger. It's just that the majority also considered it too restrictive and quit before reaping real mind changing benefits.

It isn't for everyone. It isn't necessary to lose weight. It's easier to lose weight on this change if you ARE insulin resistant. But like any lifestyle choice, you will FAIL if you are the type of personality that finds faults in anything that makes you uncomfortable. Those who find eating whatever they want more sustainable, yet can't seem to lose weight because they refuse to "starve" themselves.. Who use family as an excuse as to why they fail... Who call any diet that didn't work for them "fads" because they don't like the menu.

I don't find it restrictive (or expensive) at all. We can have meat, butter, BACON, cheese, veggies, fruits in moderation (Oh no! Moderation! How restrictive!!! Oh wait.. I'm sorry, why are you fat again? Moderation issues?) You can even make keto pizzas and keto NOODLES SND BREADS! Dear heavens.. the restrictions..

ikeandmike1212 · September 2017

Hello Neaton2965,

After watching my health steadily decline, I knew I had to do something. Dr. Berg said he ate four eggs for breakfast. I followed his lead. I started using this site to track what I was eating. From my experience, if you can document what you're eating, you can really see how you've been eating a) too much of the wrong things and b) not enough of the right things.

My Advice:

1) Watch all of Dr. Berg's video FIRST, as he gives some excellent information about nutritional support;
2) Stock up on a weeks worth of eggs, bacon, cruciferous vegetable, (cabbage, Brussels sprouts, cauliflower, etc), leafy greens for salads and whatever else you need to need to eat. You cannot skip these veggies...and yes,7-10 cups /day!!!
3) If you, can buy grass-fed beef (less hormones, antibiotics, etc); if not, get the 80/20 beef.
4) On the weekends, cook a variety of meats for the week so that you can put together a meal quickly.
5) If you get cravings, Dr. Berg has a wonderful video which addresses your specific cravings and the deficiency causing it;
6) Identify a sugar substitute; I settled on Swerve (xylitol).
7) Locate a fat bomb recipe; I thought I wouldn't need these but they have come in handy on the days when I needed to increase fat consumption without increasing protein. I made Peanut Butter cups and Cream Cheese and Lemon fat bombs (pics on my profile). These are stored in my freezer, as an occasional treat. These are sweet but fat bombs recipes can also be savory.
8) Eat your three complete meals but do not snack in between. Every time you eat, you will have some degree of insulin response. Decreased carbs and three meals (no snacks) should decrease the quantity insulin required.

Hope this helps!

ikeandmike1212 · September 2017

Glass..

You are sooooo right. I have had co-workers ask me what I'm doing but when I tell them, the first thing they say is "oh no, I can't do that!" They are drinking smoothies with 50-60 g of sugar from the fruit alone and trying to tell me how healthy it is, while they are literally getting bigger before my eyes!

We want to eat what we've always eaten and fool ourselves that we are going to loose weight. There is no doubt that fruit has a place in out diets but it is insane to think they can consume that much sugar and loose weight, all while saying "fruit is healthy for you."

You are so right...we want the end results only if we don't have to make any type of "CHANGE !!!

Ruthy161 · September 2017

Any of you please feel free to add me, I am a fellow Ketoer

NicoletteBTY · September 2017

I started following the Keto lifestyle on 1/6/2017. Before starting, I had "developed" inflammatory arthritis - maybe it's Rheumatoid Arthritis, but it could not be diagnosed beyond inflammatory. There just weren't enough markers. The pain that I was going through was constant and sometimes seemed unbearable. Specifically (not exclusively), my hands and feet were swollen and constantly in pain. For a long time, the more I hurt the more I rested. I tried the medications from the Rheumatologist, but nothing helped stop the pain but only temporarily reduced it.

When I started Keto, I saw an immediate improvement. The swelling went down. The pain settled to a "normal" amount of arthritis pain. I went from pushing myself to walk one block to hiking 11.42 miles through a mountain pass in under 10 hours. This was all gradual, but all this year. I now am fat adapted and have slightly increased my carbs (still under 50). I don't miss them. Pasta was my go to for every single meal before. "What do you want for dinner?" = "Pasta!". This Italian girl now prefers zoodles!

I don't expect to ever go back to the carbs I used to eat. Especially processed foods, in general. Life is easier and better sticking to mostly whole foods and low carb (for me). I can eat at any restaurant I want and modify an entree to fit my needs. I've never felt so strong on any fad diet.

This is NOT a fad diet. This IS a lifestyle. If you plan to use this temporarily, I suggest something else. Because I expect when you go from fat adapted to glucose adapted, you gain the weight back along with everything else, especially including inflammation.

I could definitely use more Keto friends. Feel free to add me.

desertsprout · September 2017

Keto is a great way of life

Frag_bunny117 · September 2017

I just started keto this week. I lost about 15lbs eating only whole foods from the Whole 30 Diet list and felt great but I've stalled out now. Looking to change it up to try and get things moving again. Reading so many people talk about keto helping with stomach and joints and skin and hair I decided this was the way to go. A lot of my stomach issues cleared up when I stopped eating gluten but I still have bad scaling skin and my hair falls out and I get joint pain when I'm stressed or upset. Here's hoping this new way of eating is a final fix or improvement.

ikeandmike1212 · September 2017

Good evening Frag_Bunny,

Do some research on the keto way of life. I believe it can be life-changing especially for those of us experiencing health-related issues.

Good luck!

GlassAngyl · September 2017

ikeandmike1212 wrote: »

Glass..

You are sooooo right. I have had co-workers ask me what I'm doing but when I tell them, the first thing they say is "oh no, I can't do that!" They are drinking smoothies with 50-60 g of sugar from the fruit alone and trying to tell me how healthy it is, while they are literally getting bigger before my eyes!

We want to eat what we've always eaten and fool ourselves that we are going to loose weight. There is no doubt that fruit has a place in out diets but it is insane to think they can consume that much sugar and loose weight, all while saying "fruit is healthy for you."

You are so right...we want the end results only if we don't have to make any type of "CHANGE !!!

They should really read up on what our ancestors ate before convenience became a thing. Fruit was rare. Fruit has a season. Fruit wasn't easy grab and go from a farmers market.

desertsprout · September 2017

Do any of y'all do bulletproof coffee?

GlassAngyl · September 2017

desertsprout wrote: »

Do any of y'all do bulletproof coffee?

Almost every morning. Sometimes it's the only way to ensure I get all my fats in.

browneyedgirl749 · September 2017

I'm on day 10 of keto. I lost 8 lbs the first week. I was diagnosed with Lupus last year, but only because my blood work shows large amounts of inflammation. I don't have any other Lupus symptoms. I wanted to be a couples month in on the keto diet before seeing my rheumatologist again in November, when I will have more blood work done. I'm hoping this WOE will decrease my inflammation. I'm still learning as I go. I learned that you cannot compare your results to others. Everybody is different. I obviously had a lot of water weight, so losing 8 lbs the first week is ok. Some people may not lose that much, some may lose more.

Keto, anyone?

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