Carbs -- I just can't do it

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  • Rob82
    Rob82 Posts: 15
    Well I agree that if you're going to eat grains they should be whole grains and not refined.
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    You don't need that many, I'm sure. Change your percentages in my home / goals / change goals / custom. Your protein should be at least 25% which will make your carbs 45-50% depending on what you set fat for. I'm set for 45% carbs, 25% protein, 30% fat and I'm doing just fine and I seem to get enough of everything and don't typically go over on anything except the occasional fat if I use olive oil twice in one day or eat nuts and olive oil in one day, etc.

    Well, I'm doing fine too, at least according to my doctors I am. But I don't see why I should need to change something. Either this site is using medically proven goals or I should ignore it altogether.
  • ilookthetype
    ilookthetype Posts: 3,021 Member
    Grains are not as good for you as you might think. All carbs become sugar anyway no matter what.

    Whole grains are very good for you! A recent study showed that women who get most of their fiber from whole grains lived longer, healthier (less disease) lives than women who got fiber from other sources.

    Not always true. As a celiac I'll vouch that whole grains are killer for some of us. Also, a lot of research is being done into gluten and its purpose in the body, and a lot of people are seeing that we it too much of it.
  • joejccva71
    joejccva71 Posts: 2,985 Member
    Well I agree that if you're going to eat grains they should be whole grains and not refined.
    The agriculture society has a VERY good reason to make everyone think they should get the majority of their diet from grains. Whole grains will still spike insulin, and they have been associated with vitamin deficiency.

    So you weren't talking about whole grains in the beginning?
  • Rob82
    Rob82 Posts: 15
    You're right. I shouldn't have assumed she wasn't a professional athlete. She did mention that she has a desk job later on though so I will stand by my statement that fruit and vegetables will supply all the carbs she would need.
    Maybe I shouldn't have made sucha wide sweeping statement, but instead just told her that 200+ carbs a day is way more then she needs.
    My apologies defender of the message boards.
  • lockef
    lockef Posts: 466
    Don't take it so personally. I'm saying if you want to have carbs then get them from fruit and veggies, but I don't think carbs are an essential part of diet. No big deal.

    Very much agreed.

    Carbohydrates are the only macronutrient your body doesn't need in order to survive, but I don't think you'll be able to convince those who have been brainwashed into believing in the "heart healthy diet".

    I just hope one day the people in charge of our food pyramid will say "Ok, we were wrong. Sorry!". Probably will never happen, instead they'll just start suggesting little by little to limit the amount of carbohydrates in our diet (they already started doing this for morbidly obese people, yet they don't suggest this for everyone else... SMH).
  • Rob82
    Rob82 Posts: 15
    Well I agree that if you're going to eat grains they should be whole grains and not refined.
    The agriculture society has a VERY good reason to make everyone think they should get the majority of their diet from grains. Whole grains will still spike insulin, and they have been associated with vitamin deficiency.

    So you weren't talking about whole grains in the beginning?

    I was talking about all grains, including whole. My qoute above says IF you're going to eat grains at all they should be whole.
  • joejccva71
    joejccva71 Posts: 2,985 Member
    Grains are not as good for you as you might think. All carbs become sugar anyway no matter what.

    Whole grains are very good for you! A recent study showed that women who get most of their fiber from whole grains lived longer, healthier (less disease) lives than women who got fiber from other sources.

    Not always true. As a celiac I'll vouch that whole grains are killer for some of us. Also, a lot of research is being done into gluten and its purpose in the body, and a lot of people are seeing that we it too much of it.

    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/celiac-disease/AN00303
  • ilookthetype
    ilookthetype Posts: 3,021 Member
    My apologies defender of the message boards.

    win.
  • Rob82
    Rob82 Posts: 15
    Don't take it so personally. I'm saying if you want to have carbs then get them from fruit and veggies, but I don't think carbs are an essential part of diet. No big deal.

    Very much agreed.

    Carbohydrates are the only macronutrient your body doesn't need in order to survive, but I don't think you'll be able to convince those who have been brainwashed into believing in the "heart healthy diet".

    I just hope one day the people in charge of our food pyramid will say "Ok, we were wrong. Sorry!". Probably will never happen, instead they'll just start suggesting little by little to limit the amount of carbohydrates in our diet (they already started doing this for morbidly obese people, yet they don't suggest this for everyone else... SMH).

    Thank you! Just be careful in here. These peeople love their carbs!
  • lockef
    lockef Posts: 466

    Maybe bcatt was an athlete and needs the carbs, not mention complex carbs in her system because they burn slower giving her extra energy.

    Do I need to go on?

    IMO, athletes are the only people that should be taking in large quantities of carbohydrates.
  • ilookthetype
    ilookthetype Posts: 3,021 Member
    Grains are not as good for you as you might think. All carbs become sugar anyway no matter what.

    Whole grains are very good for you! A recent study showed that women who get most of their fiber from whole grains lived longer, healthier (less disease) lives than women who got fiber from other sources.

    Not always true. As a celiac I'll vouch that whole grains are killer for some of us. Also, a lot of research is being done into gluten and its purpose in the body, and a lot of people are seeing that we it too much of it.

    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/celiac-disease/AN00303


    Point?
  • ansonrinesmith
    ansonrinesmith Posts: 741 Member
    My first suggestion would be to cut back on the 500-700 empty calories in wine.
    Add those calories back in with a high fiber food and you should have no problem getting there.
  • joejccva71
    joejccva71 Posts: 2,985 Member

    Maybe bcatt was an athlete and needs the carbs, not mention complex carbs in her system because they burn slower giving her extra energy.

    Do I need to go on?

    IMO, athletes are the only people that should be taking in large quantities of carbohydrates.

    I'm not an athlete and I take in large quantities of carbs on certain days.
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    Maybe bcatt was an athlete and needs the carbs, not mention complex carbs in her system because they burn slower giving her extra energy.

    Do I need to go on?

    I'm no athlete. I do one hour of aerobic - high impact 6 days a week (Zumba). And I do some resistance training for tone, but I don't log that so it wouldn't affect the settings. I start off with 168 carbs and it jump to 238 (I think) after I enter the exercise. Zumba is quite a calorie burner, I sweat like crazy, and MFP gives me 496 extra calories. But I don't run out of energy and if I get hungry I eat (always! hate to be hungry). I wonder if the setting is for total carbs but my entries are counting net carbs so it looks like I'm not eating enough. I'll have to try and track that I guess.
  • Pangui
    Pangui Posts: 373 Member
    I consume a very high carb diet. Not all of it is ideal. I do eat white rice, but that's only because my husband doesn't like brown (yet). Adding more fruit to your diet will get you more carbs. According to the data submitted to MFP, a banana has 27 grams. A nectarine has 20. Combine this with some legumes and whole grains and you are on your way to a high carb and healthy diet.
  • joejccva71
    joejccva71 Posts: 2,985 Member
    Grains are not as good for you as you might think. All carbs become sugar anyway no matter what.

    Whole grains are very good for you! A recent study showed that women who get most of their fiber from whole grains lived longer, healthier (less disease) lives than women who got fiber from other sources.

    Not always true. As a celiac I'll vouch that whole grains are killer for some of us. Also, a lot of research is being done into gluten and its purpose in the body, and a lot of people are seeing that we it too much of it.

    http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/celiac-disease/AN00303


    Point?

    Did you actually read the information on the site or are you just going to be a smartass? =)
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    My first suggestion would be to cut back on the 500-700 empty calories in wine.
    Add those calories back in with a high fiber food and you should have no problem getting there.

    Oh now you are just talking crazy!! :noway: No, no, no, not giving up the wine unless my doctor tells me it's affecting my health.
  • joejccva71
    joejccva71 Posts: 2,985 Member
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  • liftingbro
    liftingbro Posts: 2,029 Member
    Heck, I eat 200g of carbs per day on average and around 170g of protein and aroud 75g of fat. Carbs are easy to get:

    Whole grain bread 18g per slice
    Potato: 64g
    Apple 25g
    Banana 51g

    You can have two pieces of fruit and a sandwich in a day and get to 130g pretty easy.
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    Grains are not as good for you as you might think. All carbs become sugar anyway no matter what.

    Whole grains are very good for you! A recent study showed that women who get most of their fiber from whole grains lived longer, healthier (less disease) lives than women who got fiber from other sources.

    Not always true. As a celiac I'll vouch that whole grains are killer for some of us. Also, a lot of research is being done into gluten and its purpose in the body, and a lot of people are seeing that we it too much of it.

    Celiac disease is not caused by whole grains. That argument is like me saying protein is bad because I know someone with a protein allergy.
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    Heck, I eat 200g of carbs per day on average and around 170g of protein and aroud 75g of fat. Carbs are easy to get:

    Whole grain bread 18g per slice
    Potato: 64g
    Apple 25g
    Banana 51g

    You can have two pieces of fruit and a sandwich in a day and get to 130g pretty easy.

    Aaaggghhh!! The dreaded banana. Wish I could learn to like them. I hate the taste, smell, texture, everything.
  • JaydeSkye
    JaydeSkye Posts: 282 Member
    I think you should roll around in a tub full of beer and eat fried chocolate-covered donuts to help reach your fitness goals, that'll help for sure.
  • rankailie
    rankailie Posts: 144
    Heck, I eat 200g of carbs per day on average and around 170g of protein and aroud 75g of fat. Carbs are easy to get:

    Whole grain bread 18g per slice
    Potato: 64g
    Apple 25g
    Banana 51g

    You can have two pieces of fruit and a sandwich in a day and get to 130g pretty easy.

    Baby carrots!

    I eat a pound a day and its 44g of carbs, so tasty.
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    I think you should roll around in a tub full of beer and eat fried chocolate-covered donuts to help reach your fitness goals, that'll help for sure.

    Would I get the same results if I rolled in the fried donuts and drank the beer? I don't eat a lot of sweets.
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    Baby carrots!

    I eat a pound a day and its 44g of carbs, so tasty.

    I do love carrots. Let me ask you an off-topic question. Has your skin ever turned orange-ish? I told a co-worker once that I ate carrots at almost every meal (not now, but I did for a while when doing a restrictive diet) and she said my skin would turn orange but that it wasn't dangerous. I told her she was crazy, but another co-worker, this one a nurse, said it was true.
  • Rob82
    Rob82 Posts: 15
    I think you should roll around in a tub full of beer and eat fried chocolate-covered donuts to help reach your fitness goals, that'll help for sure.

    Would I get the same results if I rolled in the fried donuts and drank the beer? I don't eat a lot of sweets.

    I get on board with any plan that involves drinking beer...lol.
    Seriously though I think you should just change your MFP goals to lower the crabs down to around 100g a day, and then it will be easy to reach.
  • taso42_DELETED
    taso42_DELETED Posts: 3,394 Member
    This is a fun thread. Ah, the holy war of carbs. It's just like mac vs pc, emacs vs vi, harley vs metric bike, tastes great vs less filling

    OP - if you've had months of success staying below the MFP carb guideline, then i suggest changing your macronutrient ratios to be more inline with your actual intake, rather than trying to change your intake to match the suggested target. I think MFP defaults protein to 15% - you can change that to 30% and take away 15% from carbs...

    And don't take these low-carb people too seriously. The lack of carbs makes them kind of grumpy. They can't really help it. :laugh:
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    I get on board with any plan that involves drinking beer...lol.
    Seriously though I think you should just change your MFP goals to lower the crabs down to around 100g a day, and then it will be easy to reach.

    I guess my dilemma is whether I SHOULD adjust it to fit my diet, which I think is healthy. Or would it be even healthier if I tried to meet the MFP goals. I'll have to mull this over this evening I guess and decide. I do love mulled wine. :laugh:
  • rankailie
    rankailie Posts: 144
    Baby carrots!

    I eat a pound a day and its 44g of carbs, so tasty.

    I do love carrots. Let me ask you an off-topic question. Has your skin ever turned orange-ish? I told a co-worker once that I ate carrots at almost every meal (not now, but I did for a while when doing a restrictive diet) and she said my skin would turn orange but that it wasn't dangerous. I told her she was crazy, but another co-worker, this one a nurse, said it was true.

    Yes actually my hands and feet have taken on an orangeish hue, its probably not just the carrots, I eat a lot of colorful veggies now which will do that. But yes its quite true and not necessarily bad for you, it can as far as I've read make you a bit less sensitive to the sun.

    But yes I have a definite orange tinge to my hands and feet now, it looks like a natural tan.
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