When food woo goes too far
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Figure out how much he destroyed of yours and either ask him for that money, OR find an equal amount of his things/food and do what you have to do to BREAK even. I am sure there is something he cherishes find it and reach out and touch someone. ;-)4
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dinadyna21 wrote: »
Where did you learn the facts that you believe in? How do you KNOW your facts aren't woo?12 -
dinadyna21 wrote: »
Where did you learn the facts that you believe in? How do you KNOW your facts aren't woo?
Does her brother have the right to impose his beliefs on her by throwing out her food? Does someone not believing in naturopathy bother you?15 -
Organic, local, whatever. Throwing out produce is such a privilege first world thing to do, and it is absolutely astonishing how some people don't appreciate what is available to them. Honestly, if your brother was stranded on an island, and his only source of food was conventional plants, he would eat it.9
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dinadyna21 wrote: »
Where did you learn the facts that you believe in? How do you KNOW your facts aren't woo?
Because I get my facts from people/sources that can prove their claims via rigorous research and experiments that have repeatable outcomes no matter who conducts them.18 -
Glad you're moving out - ugh! What a terrible thing to do.
If it was me, I would tell him he's on his own for food - you'll cook for yourself and if he's hungry, he can buy his own or whatever. WTF?
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dinadyna21 wrote: »
Where did you learn the facts that you believe in? How do you KNOW your facts aren't woo?
Does her brother have the right to impose his believes on her by throwing out her food? Does someone not believing in naturopathy bother you?
No, it doesn't. I'm more questioning her immediate judgment of the chiro's knowledge (which none of us know exactly what he and his patient discussed) and what makes her knowledge of diet more valid than the chiro's. I see a lot of immediate judgment on these forums and for people who speak about science so highly, you'd think they would understand that science is built on the premise of new ideas and open mindedness. Louis Pasteur rejected spontaneous generation and was criticized for it until he had solid repeatable evidence (this seems pretty accepted now). Darwin, oh boy nobody liked him when he was developing the theory of evolution (there are people who still reject this, that's fine). Then there's the whole earth isn't the center of the universe debacle (not sure how this fits into the current flat earth situation). Oh, how about the researcher who downed a test tube of H. pylori to demonstrate that it can cause ulcers.
I have no issue with someone not believing in ND's. I acknowledge the resistance towards the field, I acknowledge that some ND's have done things that hurt the program more than help it (uhh not that all MD's are squeaky clean). That said, I reached a point in undergrad where I also acknowledged that nobody (or very few) is getting better from the standard western medicine and would rather focus my attention elsewhere. I have had PLENTY of opposition towards my career path. However, when I am respected enough to be heard, and not immediately dismissed, people tend to understand what my intentions are and know that I'm not insane. No, I don't think that you can take an herb like you would take a pharmaceutical and have the same effect. My focus is on integrative medicine. The study of epigenetics/nutrigenomics is fascinating to me and when I ask questions like what I did, they are genuine and not at all trolling. I personally don't really have much of an opinion. People do weird, irrational things all the time when they feel inspired by someone, good or bad.30 -
Regardless of his beliefs not being the same as facts he's not the one paying for the food then he can ask but it's not a given he gets to decide what happens. Just awful. Definition of entitled and selfish.12
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I figure that no matter what the chrio is telling OPs brother, if it's extreme enough to think he's justified throwing out all of OPs food, then it's woo.21
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dinadyna21 wrote: »
Where did you learn the facts that you believe in? How do you KNOW your facts aren't woo?
Oh, good, more "we can't know anything 100% so every idea is equally valid."26 -
Regardless of what he believes he was wrong to throw away food that you paid for. If he didn't want to eat it he did not have to. He doesn't get to decide you can't eat it though.
Going foward he should reimburse you and buy his own food. If you want to support him maybe give him some money and he can budget and shop for the kind of foods he wants.5 -
Nevermind the meat. You already have plenty.
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dinadyna21 wrote: »
Where did you learn the facts that you believe in? How do you KNOW your facts aren't woo?
Does her brother have the right to impose his believes on her by throwing out her food? Does someone not believing in naturopathy bother you?
No, it doesn't. I'm more questioning her immediate judgment of the chiro's knowledge (which none of us know exactly what he and his patient discussed) and what makes her knowledge of diet more valid than the chiro's. I see a lot of immediate judgment on these forums and for people who speak about science so highly, you'd think they would understand that science is built on the premise of new ideas and open mindedness. Louis Pasteur rejected spontaneous generation and was criticized for it until he had solid repeatable evidence (this seems pretty accepted now). Darwin, oh boy nobody liked him when he was developing the theory of evolution (there are people who still reject this, that's fine). Then there's the whole earth isn't the center of the universe debacle (not sure how this fits into the current flat earth situation). Oh, how about the researcher who downed a test tube of H. pylori to demonstrate that it can cause ulcers.
I have no issue with someone not believing in ND's. I acknowledge the resistance towards the field, I acknowledge that some ND's have done things that hurt the program more than help it (uhh not that all MD's are squeaky clean). That said, I reached a point in undergrad where I also acknowledged that nobody (or very few) is getting better from the standard western medicine and would rather focus my attention elsewhere. I have had PLENTY of opposition towards my career path. However, when I am respected enough to be heard, and not immediately dismissed, people tend to understand what my intentions are and know that I'm not insane. No, I don't think that you can take an herb like you would take a pharmaceutical and have the same effect. My focus is on integrative medicine. The study of epigenetics/nutrigenomics is fascinating to me and when I ask questions like what I did, they are genuine and not at all trolling. I personally don't really have much of an opinion. People do weird, irrational things all the time when they feel inspired by someone, good or bad.
Are you seriously equating a chiro's talk about toxins and crap like that to Darwin?
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No one should believe in it, as it's all pseudoscience.dinadyna21 wrote: »
Where did you learn the facts that you believe in? How do you KNOW your facts aren't woo?
Does her brother have the right to impose his believes on her by throwing out her food? Does someone not believing in naturopathy bother you?
I have no issue with someone not believing in ND's.
The only way to help the field of Naturopathy would be for Naturopaths to abandon all their treatment modalities that are based on pseudoscience, prescientific notions of how the human body works and those that have been shown to not work. The only problem with that is that the quacks would have no way of ripping off their victims with fake diagnoses and useless supplements as their would be nothing left to offer.I acknowledge the resistance towards the field, I acknowledge that some ND's have done things that hurt the program more than help it
What the hell are you talking about? 50 yrs ago a child getting diagnosed with leukemia was a death sentence, today 90% chance of a normal healthy life. 40 years ago you went into the ER with chest pain you ended up with open heart surgery, today you walk out the next day with a stent. Would you like me to go on? Yeah, nobody or very few people are getting better with "standard western medicine." Genius.That said, I reached a point in undergrad where I also acknowledged that nobody (or very few) is getting better from the standard western medicine and would rather focus my attention elsewhere.
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Alatariel75 wrote: »I figure that no matter what the chrio is telling OPs brother, if it's extreme enough to think he's justified throwing out all of OPs food, then it's woo.
This ×1000
This man has my brother believing that salt with dextrose is poison, that non organic foods will kill you, and that all the world's health problems have to do with candida overgrowth. Despite scientific evidence, that I've shown him, to the contrary. As others have said he can choose to believe either of us. I'm allowed to feel insulted he'd choose a complete stranger but he crossed a line throwing out my food.14 -
dinadyna21 wrote: »
Where did you learn the facts that you believe in? How do you KNOW your facts aren't woo?
The fact she said is that her brother threw out property that did not belong to him.5 -
No one should believe in it, as it's all pseudoscience.dinadyna21 wrote: »
Where did you learn the facts that you believe in? How do you KNOW your facts aren't woo?
Does her brother have the right to impose his believes on her by throwing out her food? Does someone not believing in naturopathy bother you?
I have no issue with someone not believing in ND's.
The only way to help the field of Naturopathy would be for Naturopaths to abandon all their treatment modalities that are based on pseudoscience, prescientific notions of how the human body works and those that have been shown to not work. The only problem with that is that the quacks would have no way of ripping off their victims with fake diagnoses and useless supplements as their would be nothing left to offer.I acknowledge the resistance towards the field, I acknowledge that some ND's have done things that hurt the program more than help it
What the hell are you talking about? 50 yrs ago a child getting diagnosed with leukemia was a death sentence, today 90% chance of a normal healthy life. 40 years ago you went into the ER with chest pain you ended up with open heart surgery, today you walk out the next day with a stent. Would you like me to go on? Yeah, nobody or very few people are getting better with "standard western medicine." Genius.That said, I reached a point in undergrad where I also acknowledged that nobody (or very few) is getting better from the standard western medicine and would rather focus my attention elsewhere.
Wow, I missed that bit. No one is getting better with standard western medicine?
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Wow.
You should make him pay for what he has thrown away and ask him to buy whatever he wants to eat from his pocket. I would immediately stop buying food for him, as he is not respecting what you are doing for him
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Chiropractic is non-science quackery.4
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