Fasting? Anyone? Anyone?
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adelitazzz75 wrote: »Hi - I do 16/8 fasting - so u fast for 16 hours then eat your calorie allocation within the remaining 8 hour window. I guess this isn’t really fasting because I’m not going without my food - I’m simply eating it within a smaller window of time rather than spread out over a day. Since starting this 2 wks ago I have dropped 2/kilos which for me is a significant drop after a plateau lasting months - so it seems to have kick started my weight loss again. I’m 147 & want to lose another 14 lbs.
I have found 16/8 surprisingly easy to do (I eat from 1pm to 9pm - then fast from 9pm to 1pm the next day) & I seem to have less of an appetite. I manage up to 1pm each day with tea, coffee, & water & find it quite liberating not to have to bother with food in the mornings. It also removes your fear of being hungry & I now like to analyse it, embrace it & invariably it goes away & stops bothering you - so often by 1pm each day I’m not actually that hungry!
I may try to adopt this style of eating for the foreseeable future & even after reaching goal if I can as it seems to work for me.
Good luck with your weight loss journey xxx
I started basically the same diet about a week ago eating from 12pm to 8pm. I'm an evening eater and this leaves me plenty of calories to play with. My blood glucose is typically borderline when I have blood work done. Hoping this helps.(also cutting down on junk to help with that) . I've always been one of those people who eats every 3-4 hours. Yesterday, just to show myself that food doesnt have to control me, i went 23 hours without eating. Wasnt really that hard. Not something i'm going to do very often, but may throw that in a couple of times a month. I know some on here do "one meal a day", but just cant get my calories in with only one meal.
Glad to hear you are having success on this lifestyle change. Hoping it works well for me too.4 -
I've been doing "intermittent" fasting for four month now and love it. Not the 5:2 kind but the kind that can be called "skipping breakfast." I don't eat anything after 6 in the evening until noon the next day. Black coffee in the morning is the only exception.1
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I've done the occasional 24 hr fast. It's not as apocalyptic as people make it out to be.
Me too, or 36 hour. (Not for dieting reasons, but I think the Brad Pilon protocol seems safe.)
I hate how fasting gets conflated as if it didn't make a huge difference what type of fasting we are talking about and how long. For example, I think it matters whether we are talking guilt-ridden fasting after overeating that turns into binge and fast cycles, LONG fasts, fasting in addition to eating low cals, so on.
IMO, IF protocols (there are many sensible ones, including one that involves 24 hour fasts but otherwise eating at maintenance or to desire) are fine ways to lose weight. "Fasting" as in a few days without eating or the not eating t punish yourself for overindulging, is not. Juice fasting is pointless and generally not a great idea, the Master Cleanse or anything claiming cleansing or detoxing properties is dumb.
Lots of people fast (in lots of different ways) for religious-type reasons and I would not conflate that with weight loss efforts.6 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »
A family member of mine on fb is doing this right now and is all about its "health benefits"
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Pretty sure I'd die from a 24 hour fast. Or someone else would because I'd be too hangry6
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now I hafta google "potato hacking"1
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Pretty sure I'd die from a 24 hour fast. Or someone else would because I'd be too hangry
I did 23 hours yesterday. It really wasnt that bad. For me, it was more about challenging myself to prove that i wont die if i miss a meal, and that i dont have to eat all day. The only times i got hungry were at the times i typically eat, and even then the hunger only lasted for a bit, and then went away. I tend to overeat in the evening, so skipping food until noon allows me to move those calories until later in the day. Just started this but so far, so good.
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I do IF 18:6 window along with Keto.
It has really helped me having a regimen to stick to and I like having big meals twice a day rather than 3 medium meals.
What works for me won't work for everyone but I'm down 60lbs and only 4lbs to go till my target weight.
I do IF also and my eating window varies, but it's typically 18:6 and sometimes it is 20:4, but without Keto. I do however watch my processed carb intake and increase my fat intake, but do not worry about staying less than 20 carbs per day. The IF alone reduces my insulin resistance and my belly fat is disappearing. There is a lot of great research on IF so those that discount it have not done their homework.3 -
To say that people who discount IF as having benefits outside of preference for some people is short sighted and just plain wrong.
The research you cite as supporting the benefits is cherry picked. Anything credible I've read doesn't support your assertion.
I IF, but I'm not fooling myself that it's doing anything magical for me. I don't need to do that in order to practice it.8 -
I am so glad that I read this thread! I had never come across the 5:2 method and started it this week. It seems like something I can stick too. Lord knows the daily restriction is not working for me. Thanks all!3
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The longest I've gone was 2 1/2 days on a water fast and I wished I could've holded out longer to reach ketosis. The mind struggle is real, yo. If you can and want to do it then more power to you.1
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I absolutely fast! Fasting is so good for the body when done properly. I do the 20:2, however I'm not on the keto diet just yet, I will in January.2
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Fasting has been used to treat all kinds of ailments and diseases. If you have Amazon Prime, this film is worth a watch: https://www.amazon.com/Science-Fasting-Sylvie-Gilman/dp/B07586WBDK
Also, Dr. Berg gives an excellent overview of IF -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwCRjwDs1Ek 10 -
I fast from around 10pm to 7am. Sometimes less. That's enough for me.9
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The longest I've gone was 2 1/2 days on a water fast and I wished I could've holded out longer to reach ketosis. The mind struggle is real, yo. If you can and want to do it then more power to you.
You would've definitely been in a state of ketosis after 2.5 days of just consuming water.
From the Reddit Keto FAQ:How long will it take to reach ketosis?
Ketosis begins when liver glycogen is depleted, and the amount of glycogen in the liver only provides enough glucose for 12-16 hours. Thus, when you limit carbs to 20 net grams, it takes no longer than 24 hours to enter ketosis.2 -
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LOL, I should have known better than to bring up potato hacking on anything other than a paleo MFP board...touché!1 -
Isn't "potato hacking" just a trendy term for the monodiet that is just potatoes.
Weird if it's a paleo thing now, as some still claim potatoes are non paleo. I was familiar with it due to that Australian guy, and McDougall (Starch Solution), although I guess Richard Nikoley is into it.
I think it's pretty unsurprising that people naturally reduce calories on any monodiet (same principle with the meat only diets among others), although I don't think it's really a good eating plan. Seems better to just eat a sensible diet (in whatever eating pattern you prefer, including one that includes fasting).1 -
I've done a 20-21 hr fast for months at a time 6 days/week. I lost about 60-lbs, fasting blood sugar was high now is good, blood pressure was 14x/9x and is now usually 11x/7x. I feel much better, don't wake up in the mornings feeling like I am drugged or with headaches which I used to have all the time. I have lots of energy and am able to run about 20-miles/week now. It has been really good for me. I've kept the weight off for a couple of years doing a 16:8 fast.
I'm aware of one guy on mfp that did many 4-day fasts and some 11-day fasts (not for me) and a lot of 23-hour fasts. He went from about 365 to 175 in less than one year and is now running 1/2 marathons. I'd be very careful doing extended fasts like that but it seemed to work for him.7 -
I don't really think of a 20 hour (or 23 hour) fast as a fast -- you are eating every day, just eating once instead of 3 times (or 2 times or 5 or whatever). Sure, it's IF and an eating pattern and for some it may be a helpful way to help yourself keep a deficit. Similarly, I don't think a full day fast once in a while (or even weekly if that's your thing and you are otherwise eating at maintenance on other days) is a big deal, unless you are doing it to punish yourself for overeating or tend to binge and restrict patterns.
A 4-day or certainly an 11-day fast is very different. That I would suggest talking to a doctor first and being really careful about refeeding. (To be honest I think both are bad ideas as a way to diet when there are options that don't involve fasting that long available, but I'd be less worried if someone was doing it with medical supervision and figure not my business.)
This is one reason I think it's odd to conflate eating patterns with fasting and important when someone is asking about fasting to understand what they mean.3
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