Its day 3 of detox
DocJayDee
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I gained a bunch of weight and i needed something drastic to jumpstart my 40lb loss so Im doing the fat smash diet, which consists of 9 days of detox. No bread, dairy or meat. Its day 3, I woke up starving but I feel ok. Let's do this!
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You might want to search the forum for other detox. Threads. They may help you.9
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What's the plan for day 10? Cutting out bread, dairy and meat will likely just make you lose some water weight, the second you re-introduce them you'll retain water again.
You don't need something drastic or to jump start your weight loss, you just need a calorie deficit.
Make small sustainable changes instead and you'll find that those over time will add up and you'll be able to lose the weight in a way that makes it more likely to stay off.
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No, you don't, you need a calorie deficit and a sustainable diet, and a jumpstart isn't even a thing.janear_hankerson wrote: »I gained a bunch of weight and i needed something drastic to jumpstart my 40lb loss
A detox doesn't do anything good for you, it removes waste from your intestines, and guess what - they fill up again! If you starve yourself, you'll overeat later.so Im doing the fat smash diet, which consists of 9 days of detox.
That's just silly.No bread, dairy or meat.
Starving is not ok.Its day 3, I woke up starving but I feel ok.
How about, let's NOT?Let's do this!53 -
How are you going to get your protein?
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Its a shame that you like so many others have been dragged into this scam and belief that you need to jump start and detox for your weight loss.
unfortunately any weight you lose these 9 days will only be the same water weight you would of lost not doing this to yourself and struggling.17 -
are you a drug addict? thats the only reason for detox.17
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janear_hankerson wrote: »i needed something drastic to jumpstart my 40lb loss
Usually drastic plans are unsustainable, so you quit, and end up not really getting anywhere. Set yourself an appropriate calorie goal. Log everything, every day. Stick to your goal. You will get there. Patience and persistence are the most important things you will need to be successful.
If you need help setting appropriate goals this post has alot of great info in it:
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1080242/a-guide-to-get-you-started-on-your-path-to-sexypants/p1
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OP, in each forum you'll find some stickied posts at the top (I think they say "announcement."). Reading these posts were so beneficial for me and taught me how the process of weight loss truly works.10
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Detoxing leads to yo-yo dieting. You lose a bunch of weight, find it too hard to continue with the plan, quit, and end up gaining it back (and then some, in many cases). That can be even harder on your body than just the 'detox.' People who make detoxes are either trying to sell you something, have a very unhealthy relationship with food, or know nothing about how the body or nutrition works. Listen to the others and set up an actual plan that you can keep going.6
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tinkerbellang83 wrote: »What's the plan for day 10? Cutting out bread, dairy and meat will likely just make you lose some water weight, the second you re-introduce them you'll retain water again.
You don't need something drastic or to jump start your weight loss, you just need a calorie deficit.
Make small sustainable changes instead and you'll find that those over time will add up and you'll be able to lose the weight in a way that makes it more likely to stay off.
Plan for day 10 is phase 2, which starts to introduce meat back into the diet. Its a 90 day plan.
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Why do people do this to themselves? Ok, then what happens after 90 days. You are cured and just know how to eat to maintain or lose? Nah. Not going to happen. After 90 days you'll be SOOO miserable you'll just say "f'it" and eat all the food, all the time and not give a crap about your weight.
Any diet that "removes" whole food groups from your diet declaring "weight loss" is woo. You don't need to remove anything from your diet. You just need to eat less. However you do that, it's up to you. But weight loss shouldn't be a punishment - or an abrupt "kickstart" or anything thing that involves misery.
I suggest spending some time reading the "stickies" in help section of the Forums. It will help you not spin your wheels. And it help you get results without being miserable.
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In all honesty, janear_hankerson - this isn't necessary. I've lost nearly 4lbs this week (some was definitely water weight; I have my goals set to lose 1.5 lbs a week) - my first week back at MFP in a long time - simply by staying in my calorie goals and eating normal food. If you look at my diary (it should be visible) you will see I just eat normal food. I do take vitamin supplements which you will see there - but other than that everything I eat is just normal. I am not denying myself anything but just simple calorie restriction. Last night I had 2 servings of my favorite egg nog ice cream AND a glass of wine AND had ham and potatoes for supper and woke up to a loss this morning. And I didn't wake up starving - in fact I've been awake since about 6:30 and still haven't eaten anything, just had a cup of coffee - it's 10:00.
Please do your body a favor and your weight loss journey a favor - just eat normally, within calorie limits - and you'll find it's much easier to maintain without depravation. There are no bonus points for suffering during weight loss.9 -
tinkerbellang83 wrote: »What's the plan for day 10? Cutting out bread, dairy and meat will likely just make you lose some water weight, the second you re-introduce them you'll retain water again.
You don't need something drastic or to jump start your weight loss, you just need a calorie deficit.
Make small sustainable changes instead and you'll find that those over time will add up and you'll be able to lose the weight in a way that makes it more likely to stay off.
Plan for day 10 is phase 2, which starts to introduce meat back into the diet. Its a 90 day plan.
You're missing the point.
What are you going to do once you're done with this particular scheme which has an end date? What's your plan to actually sustain any weight loss you might achieve? Your plan is tantamount to losing some weight quickly with no idea how to actually BE at a healthy weight after that.2 -
OP, please relieve yourself from this torture. Please take when it's said on here that just about any weight you lose in the first 10 days will be water weight. You reintroduce any carbs back in, the water weight will return. The influx will likely discourage, and like MANY before you, you may quit before the year even begins AGAIN.
You want to lose weight...........................just learn how to count calories. I can promise you that if you eat less than you burn on a consistent basis, weight loss will happen.
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Obviously I know a balanced diet is key- but if it were that easy there would be no overweight people. Ever. The last time I told an alcoholic to just stop drinking, they laughed. Just saying.25
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And the thing is - it actually is that simple - most people have no clue how much they are actually eating.
What do you mean by "a balanced diet?" That's the thing - so many people use buzzwords (balanced diet, eating clean, eating right, eating healthy) and THINK they're doing the right thing - but they get nowhere because they are still eating too many calories! It's all about the CALORIES! It IS that simple - it's not EASY but it is SIMPLE.
If you look at the threads - there is one about your first shock when you started logging food - worth looking at - until you actually start to pay attention to how many calories you are actually eating - you have no clue that you are overeating by a LOT.10 -
Obviously I know a balanced diet is key- but if it were that easy there would be no overweight people. Ever. The last time I told an alcoholic to just stop drinking, they laughed. Just saying.
Detoxing is for alcoholics because they have a poison in their body. Food is not poison, and all you're doing by restricting entire food groups is making yourself miserable. Weight loss is more like quitting smoking. Can some people do it cold-turkey? Yes, but most do it a little at a time, going down from a few packs a day, to one, to a few smokes a day, to none.
And we're not ridiculing you. We're giving you a reality check. You can find any number of people who have tried 'detoxes' who gained all the weight back, or who are on their third or fourth or fifth try. If it's such a miracle cure, why would they have to do it again?9 -
Obviously I know a balanced diet is key- but if it were that easy there would be no overweight people. Ever. The last time I told an alcoholic to just stop drinking, they laughed. Just saying.
Correct.
And if ACV melted fat there would be a shortage, and if you could find some it'd be 50 dollars a jug.
ETA: using ACV as an example, it's just as much woo as detoxing...2 -
Obviously I know a balanced diet is key- but if it were that easy there would be no overweight people. Ever. The last time I told an alcoholic to just stop drinking, they laughed. Just saying.
It's not that obvious because you're doing this weird detox thing. If you know a balanced diet is key then why aren't you doing that instead?10 -
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If you are enjoying it, that's great and all, but you don't "detox" from dairy, meat, or bread.
I think going without meat or dairy for a period of time can be useful if you think you overconsume those foods (I regularly give up meat or animal products in general (food only) for periods of time, mostly for religious reasons (like Lent), but I think it can be helpful in understanding that you don't need to rely on them and broadening your choices. Ideally you will understand how to get protein without them).
For bread, sure, whatever. Seems kind of a random thing to pick, but maybe if you tend to rely on it a lot.0 -
ladyhusker39 wrote: »Lol no troll just doing new things. What I think is interesting is how people can give advice or suggestions and ridicule without knowing the person or situation. Obviously I know a balanced diet is key- but if it were that easy there would be no overweight people. Ever. The last time I told an alcoholic to just stop drinking, they laughed. Just saying.
It's not that obvious because you're doing this weird detox thing. If you know a balanced diet is key then why aren't you doing that instead?
I've found most people who do detoxes are impatient. They may know they have to start eating right, but they see "Lose forty pounds in a month!" and want that instead, not realizing that 90% of that is going to be water weight that they can easily gain back.4 -
kristen8000 wrote: »Why do people do this to themselves? Ok, then what happens after 90 days. You are cured and just know how to eat to maintain or lose?
Yeah, I think this is the dream, and agree with you that it's not realistic.
People think they can do something dramatic for a short period of time and then never have to worry about it again, they will just magically not want to overeat ever.1 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »If you are enjoying it, that's great and all, but you don't "detox" from dairy, meat, or bread.
I think going without meat or dairy for a period of time can be useful if you think you overconsume those foods (I regularly give up meat or animal products in general (food only) for periods of time, mostly for religious reasons (like Lent), but I think it can be helpful in understanding that you don't need to rely on them and broadening your choices. Ideally you will understand how to get protein without them).
For bread, sure, whatever. Seems kind of a random thing to pick, but maybe if you tend to rely on it a lot.
I choose to eat very little bread because frankly I think it's not delicious enough to justify the calories. Unless it's something yummy from Panera or some kind of home made delicacy, I usually pass. LOL3 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »If you are enjoying it, that's great and all, but you don't "detox" from dairy, meat, or bread.
I think going without meat or dairy for a period of time can be useful if you think you overconsume those foods (I regularly give up meat or animal products in general (food only) for periods of time, mostly for religious reasons (like Lent), but I think it can be helpful in understanding that you don't need to rely on them and broadening your choices. Ideally you will understand how to get protein without them).
For bread, sure, whatever. Seems kind of a random thing to pick, but maybe if you tend to rely on it a lot.
I choose to eat very little bread because frankly I think it's not delicious enough to justify the calories. Unless it's something yummy from Panera or some kind of home made delicacy, I usually pass. LOL
That makes perfect sense. I have foods like that as well.1 -
lemurcat12 wrote: »If you are enjoying it, that's great and all, but you don't "detox" from dairy, meat, or bread.
I think going without meat or dairy for a period of time can be useful if you think you overconsume those foods (I regularly give up meat or animal products in general (food only) for periods of time, mostly for religious reasons (like Lent), but I think it can be helpful in understanding that you don't need to rely on them and broadening your choices. Ideally you will understand how to get protein without them).
For bread, sure, whatever. Seems kind of a random thing to pick, but maybe if you tend to rely on it a lot.
I choose to eat very little bread because frankly I think it's not delicious enough to justify the calories. Unless it's something yummy from Panera or some kind of home made delicacy, I usually pass. LOL
I'm exactly the same. If someone makes bread (or if I do -- I haven't for ages but keep thinking it might be fun, oh dear), I'll want it, and naan I make room for if I go out for Indian, and there's one sandwich place locally that does a delicious sandwich on bread I like that I have every couple of months, but beyond that it's rarely worth the calories for me (so I often go weeks without bread).
I eat pasta much more, though, and it is pretty much identical to bread (nutritionally, in terms of what one would "detox" from, I guess). ;-) I also eat oats and some other grains more often.2 -
Obviously I know a balanced diet is key- but if it were that easy there would be no overweight people. Ever. The last time I told an alcoholic to just stop drinking, they laughed. Just saying.
Have you ever thought of the possibility that there are so many overweight people because they think it's harder than it actually is? For example cutting out multiple food groups as a "radical" "jumpstart"...26
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