Its day 3 of detox
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stevencloser wrote: »Lol no troll just doing new things. What I think is interesting is how people can give advice or suggestions and ridicule without knowing the person or situation. Obviously I know a balanced diet is key- but if it were that easy there would be no overweight people. Ever. The last time I told an alcoholic to just stop drinking, they laughed. Just saying.
Have you ever thought of the possibility that there are so many overweight people because they think it's harder than it actually is? For example cutting out multiple food groups as a "radical" "jumpstart"...
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tinkerbellang83 wrote: »What's the plan for day 10? Cutting out bread, dairy and meat will likely just make you lose some water weight, the second you re-introduce them you'll retain water again.
You don't need something drastic or to jump start your weight loss, you just need a calorie deficit.
Make small sustainable changes instead and you'll find that those over time will add up and you'll be able to lose the weight in a way that makes it more likely to stay off.
Plan for day 10 is phase 2, which starts to introduce meat back into the diet. Its a 90 day plan.
But then what is the point in cutting it out days 1-9? 9 days of cutting out a food is going to achieve absolutely nothing (except maybe a massive craving for a steak and disappointment at scale weight gain on day 10) and again it's a 90 day plan, what do you do after that?
Why not just eat normally in a moderate calorie deficit and gradually increase up to maintenance when you get closer to goal, doesn't that seem a little more straightforward and sustainable?
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Lol no troll just doing new things. What I think is interesting is how people can give advice or suggestions and ridicule without knowing the person or situation. Obviously I know a balanced diet is key- but if it were that easy there would be no overweight people. Ever. The last time I told an alcoholic to just stop drinking, they laughed. Just saying.
Don't need to know every person to know that toxic things kill people. If you're alive, nature's detox is working just fine.
People aren't trying to ridicule you, they're trying to save you money and effort that lead to a dead end.9 -
tinkerbellang83 wrote: »What's the plan for day 10? Cutting out bread, dairy and meat will likely just make you lose some water weight, the second you re-introduce them you'll retain water again.
You don't need something drastic or to jump start your weight loss, you just need a calorie deficit.
Make small sustainable changes instead and you'll find that those over time will add up and you'll be able to lose the weight in a way that makes it more likely to stay off.
Plan for day 10 is phase 2, which starts to introduce meat back into the diet. Its a 90 day plan.
So meat is toxic for 9 days but not toxic day 10 onwards?
Bread and dairy are toxic for more than 10 days but less than 90 days?
Sounds totally legit to me! :noway:
You do realise that you will be "smashing" water weight and not "smashing fat" don't you?
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Obviously I know a balanced diet is key- but if it were that easy there would be no overweight people. Ever. The last time I told an alcoholic to just stop drinking, they laughed. Just saying.
The point is that "detox" is a marketing term for "fad diet". And we all know fad diets don't work. Most just make you lose water weight that you'll gain right back. If you want to lose weight once and for all, set your goal in MFP to lose 1 lb per week, log your food accurately and consistently, use the time to learn how to eat in a way that you enjoy and are satisfied by at the right amount of calories, and move more whenever you can. That's really it. No need to cut out whole food groups or go on complicated plans or buy special products. Over restricting often leas to a rebound effect that just makes it harder in the long run. Most of the people responding to you here already wasted time with all the fads and finally lost all the weight and kept it off doing what I described. Good luck10 -
Strange, isn't it, that there is a whole "diet industry" full of some really terrible ideas and products that will not lead to a sustainable loss of weight? However, a simple CICO eating plan seems to be something some people just don't want to believe in and try, when it's the only thing that really works! OP, don't torture yourself with the "fat smash diet".6
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@DocJayDee - there is a lot of great advice on here, but in the end, you have to do what you feel is best for YOU. I know everyone is trying to be helpful, so take what you will from the advice given and keep going. Wishing you all the best in your weight loss journey.3
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Actually I think the plan I'm doing isnt that different from going plant based, vegetarian or vegan-I eat as much fruits, veggies, beans, tofu, lentils, etc, as I want. Also oatmeal, brown rice, greek yogurt & egg whites are allowed during detox as well. I'm really just on here looking for good vegetarian meal ideas that don't take forever to make.
I have also worked with a registered dietician ( my insurance covered 6 free visits and everyone should try it sometime) and I have a plan to balance carbs & protein intake after the 90 days are up that I have been successful with in the past.
Before anyone says "it obviously didn't work if the weight came back" the plan worked fine, I lost a bunch of weight, got a boyfriend who didn't want to count carbs, hated brown rice and gave me the guilt trip every time I would skip cuddle time to hit the gym on Saturday mornings. Before I knew it I was making his favorite pasta & cheese dishes, skipping the gym and netflix & chilling with a large pizza and wings.9 -
Obviously I know a balanced diet is key- but if it were that easy there would be no overweight people. Ever. The last time I told an alcoholic to just stop drinking, they laughed. Just saying.
It is that easy. It's diet fads and gimmicks like the "fat smash diet" that have made it difficult. There are overweight people because they are not following a balanced diet, but a complicated fad diet that ultimately leads to failure and a regaining of all weight that was lost.7 -
Actually I think the plan I'm doing isnt that different from going plant based, vegetarian or vegan-I eat as much fruits, veggies, beans, tofu, lentils, etc, as I want. Also oatmeal, brown rice, greek yogurt & egg whites are allowed during detox as well. I'm really just on here looking for good vegetarian meal ideas that don't take forever to make.
I have also worked with a registered dietician ( my insurance covered 6 free visits and everyone should try it sometime) and I have a plan to balance carbs & protein intake after the 90 days are up that I have been successful with in the past.
Before anyone says "it obviously didn't work if the weight came back" the plan worked fine, I lost a bunch of weight, got a boyfriend who didn't want to count carbs, hated brown rice and gave me the guilt trip every time I would skip cuddle time to hit the gym on Saturday mornings. Before I knew it I was making his favorite pasta & cheese dishes, skipping the gym and netflix & chilling with a large pizza and wings.
Veganism isn't about detoxing though, it's about something completely different. A post asking for ideas for vegetarian or vegan meals that can be made quickly would receive a whole different set of responses because it's an entirely different concept than "detoxing."
This honestly sounds more like a relationship problem or an issue with how to balance maintaining weight loss with the lifestyle and foods you like to eat than a food problem. Elimination isn't going to help you sustain weight loss if the underlying problems with how to maintain are still there.
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Actually I think the plan I'm doing isnt that different from going plant based, vegetarian or vegan-I eat as much fruits, veggies, beans, tofu, lentils, etc, as I want. Also oatmeal, brown rice, greek yogurt & egg whites are allowed during detox as well. I'm really just on here looking for good vegetarian meal ideas that don't take forever to make.
I have also worked with a registered dietician ( my insurance covered 6 free visits and everyone should try it sometime) and I have a plan to balance carbs & protein intake after the 90 days are up that I have been successful with in the past.
Before anyone says "it obviously didn't work if the weight came back" the plan worked fine, I lost a bunch of weight, got a boyfriend who didn't want to count carbs, hated brown rice and gave me the guilt trip every time I would skip cuddle time to hit the gym on Saturday mornings. Before I knew it I was making his favorite pasta & cheese dishes, skipping the gym and netflix & chilling with a large pizza and wings.
OP, I really stress trying to find somewhere between these two things. Both are extreme (changing your diet/exercise habits extremely, and "skipping the gym, making cheesy things, with chicken wings"). There is a place in between that exists. A place where you can eat the things you love (just in small quanities) and work out because you want to not because you "have to". Instead of spending time on some "fat smashing detox" (LOL by the way), learn to find balance. Because I can tell you right now, if you don't, maintainance will SUCK and the weight will just come back.
PS. There is no "magical" difference between white rice and brown rice. I lost 22lbs since August and I think I eat a 3oz portion of white rice at least 4x a week...I hate brown rice too. Why would I eat something I hate when there is negligible difference in nutrition?9 -
To the OP, good luck! Also, I think a detox every now and then is good. Doing a detox helps to reduce cravings, bloating and makes you feel better. I am also surprised that when someone says "no bread dairy or meat" that they would get so many negative comments. Especially, since bread is pretty much bad for you. It's high in carbs, sugar, not nutritional. Even if you choose wheat bread, it's likely made with Monsanto seeds. Also dairy (especially milk) has been shown to have so many hormones and according to many studies should not even be consumed. Heck many people are lactose intolerant and get sick from it anyway. Finally meat is so over eaten and the WHO has classified most meat as a carcinogen.
So tell me again why taking a break or "detox" away from these items and instead replacing them with veggies, fruits and lean proteins is bad? It's still reducing the total number of calories. Also, why so many negative responses. You all are acting like you are personally hurt because she chose to do a detox.66 -
The difference between alcoholics and overeaters is that recovering alcoholics can and should stop drinking. Overeaters can not give up eating. It's impossible. Instead we have find a balanced and moderate approach to food. Either that or stay overweight. Severe restriction doesn't work, because inevitably, we have a strong instinct for survival and so we binge. We have to learn to avoid unmaintainable restriction and binging.
I just started here two months ago. The people here know what they're talking about, because they've successfully changed their eating patterns and lost the excess weight as well as keeping it off. I've lost 16.8 lbs and not felt deprived at all. It's so freeing to lose weight and not feel starved or deprived!
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pennylove76 wrote: »To the OP, good luck! Also, I think a detox every now and then is good. Doing a detox helps to reduce cravings, bloating and makes you feel better. I am also surprised that when someone says "no bread dairy or meat" that they would get so many negative comments. Especially, since bread is pretty much bad for you. It's high in carbs, sugar, not nutritional. Even if you choose wheat bread, it's likely made with Monsanto seeds. Also dairy (especially milk) has been shown to have so many hormones and according to many studies should not even be consumed. Heck many people are lactose intolerant and get sick from it anyway. Finally meat is so over eaten and the WHO has classified most meat as a carcinogen.
So tell me again why taking a break or "detox" away from these items and instead replacing them with veggies, fruits and lean proteins is bad? It's still reducing the total number of calories. Also, why so many negative responses. You all are acting like you are personally hurt because she chose to do a detox.
Why the hate on bread? There's nothing wrong with carbohydrates (you'll be getting plenty of those if you eat the vegetables and fruits you recommend), most of it has a reasonable amount of sugar (1-2 grams per slice, which is less than many foods), and it has nutrients like B vitamins, iron, and fiber. There's nothing wrong with having some bread if you like it.
If a food is bad for you, truly toxic, then a temporary "detox" doesn't make sense. It should be avoided. That these "detoxes" are positioned as temporary underscores that there is nothing truly harmful about these foods. Some people may eat amounts of them that cause them to consume too many calories overall or that crowd out other things that they need, but this can be addressed without elimination diets or excessive restriction.13 -
pennylove76 wrote: »To the OP, good luck! Also, I think a detox every now and then is good. Doing a detox helps to reduce cravings, bloating and makes you feel better. I am also surprised that when someone says "no bread dairy or meat" that they would get so many negative comments. Especially, since bread is pretty much bad for you. It's high in carbs, sugar, not nutritional. Even if you choose wheat bread, it's likely made with Monsanto seeds. Also dairy (especially milk) has been shown to have so many hormones and according to many studies should not even be consumed. Heck many people are lactose intolerant and get sick from it anyway. Finally meat is so over eaten and the WHO has classified most meat as a carcinogen.
So tell me again why taking a break or "detox" away from these items and instead replacing them with veggies, fruits and lean proteins is bad? It's still reducing the total number of calories. Also, why so many negative responses. You all are acting like you are personally hurt because she chose to do a detox.
What is unhealthy about carbs and sugar? and if they are soooooooo bad why would you only not eat them for 9 days and then go back to eating them? We aren't being negative, we are being honest and perhaps blunt in order to try and save the OP the disappointment she will face when she struggles to achieve long-term weight loss this way, when it's really not that complicated.
If someone want's to go more plant based, vegetarian or vegan, that's fine but it's still a moderate calorie deficit over time that is required to lose weight, a lifestyle change is what is needed, not a 90 day plan.
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pennylove76 wrote: »To the OP, good luck! Also, I think a detox every now and then is good. Doing a detox helps to reduce cravings, bloating and makes you feel better. I am also surprised that when someone says "no bread dairy or meat" that they would get so many negative comments. Especially, since bread is pretty much bad for you. It's high in carbs, sugar, not nutritional. Even if you choose wheat bread, it's likely made with Monsanto seeds. Also dairy (especially milk) has been shown to have so many hormones and according to many studies should not even be consumed. Heck many people are lactose intolerant and get sick from it anyway. Finally meat is so over eaten and the WHO has classified most meat as a carcinogen.
So tell me again why taking a break or "detox" away from these items and instead replacing them with veggies, fruits and lean proteins is bad? It's still reducing the total number of calories. Also, why so many negative responses. You all are acting like you are personally hurt because she chose to do a detox.
So, you've demonized all 3 macronutrients in one paragraph. What do you eat? Your body uses these macronutrients for energy. That's fats/carbs/protein.
http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/discussion/1159755/looking-for-a-detox-cleanse/p1
Please read this link. You are wasting your money on detoxes...
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tinkerbellang83 wrote: »pennylove76 wrote: »To the OP, good luck! Also, I think a detox every now and then is good. Doing a detox helps to reduce cravings, bloating and makes you feel better. I am also surprised that when someone says "no bread dairy or meat" that they would get so many negative comments. Especially, since bread is pretty much bad for you. It's high in carbs, sugar, not nutritional. Even if you choose wheat bread, it's likely made with Monsanto seeds. Also dairy (especially milk) has been shown to have so many hormones and according to many studies should not even be consumed. Heck many people are lactose intolerant and get sick from it anyway. Finally meat is so over eaten and the WHO has classified most meat as a carcinogen.
So tell me again why taking a break or "detox" away from these items and instead replacing them with veggies, fruits and lean proteins is bad? It's still reducing the total number of calories. Also, why so many negative responses. You all are acting like you are personally hurt because she chose to do a detox.
What is unhealthy about carbs and sugar? and if they are soooooooo bad why would you only not eat them for 9 days and then go back to eating them? We aren't being negative, we are being honest and perhaps blunt in order to try and save the OP the disappointment she will face when she struggles to achieve long-term weight loss this way, when it's really not that complicated.
If someone want's to go more plant based, vegetarian or vegan, that's fine but it's still a moderate calorie deficit over time that is required to lose weight, a lifestyle change is what is needed, not a 90 day plan.
If carbohydrates and sugar are bad, then a diet that replaces bread with veggies and fruits (like this person is recommending) would also be bad because veggies and fruit have . . . carbohydrates and sugars.16 -
pennylove76 wrote: »To the OP, good luck! Also, I think a detox every now and then is good. Doing a detox helps to reduce cravings, bloating and makes you feel better. I am also surprised that when someone says "no bread dairy or meat" that they would get so many negative comments. Especially, since bread is pretty much bad for you. It's high in carbs, sugar, not nutritional. Even if you choose wheat bread, it's likely made with Monsanto seeds. Also dairy (especially milk) has been shown to have so many hormones and according to many studies should not even be consumed. Heck many people are lactose intolerant and get sick from it anyway. Finally meat is so over eaten and the WHO has classified most meat as a carcinogen.
So tell me again why taking a break or "detox" away from these items and instead replacing them with veggies, fruits and lean proteins is bad? It's still reducing the total number of calories. Also, why so many negative responses. You all are acting like you are personally hurt because she chose to do a detox.
What a huge steaming pile of horse manure.
Do you have any peer reviewed citations to support any of this nonsense?10 -
pennylove76 wrote: »To the OP, good luck! Also, I think a detox every now and then is good. Doing a detox helps to reduce cravings, bloating and makes you feel better. I am also surprised that when someone says "no bread dairy or meat" that they would get so many negative comments. Especially, since bread is pretty much bad for you. It's high in carbs, sugar, not nutritional. Even if you choose wheat bread, it's likely made with Monsanto seeds. Also dairy (especially milk) has been shown to have so many hormones and according to many studies should not even be consumed. Heck many people are lactose intolerant and get sick from it anyway. Finally meat is so over eaten and the WHO has classified most meat as a carcinogen.
So tell me again why taking a break or "detox" away from these items and instead replacing them with veggies, fruits and lean proteins is bad? It's still reducing the total number of calories. Also, why so many negative responses. You all are acting like you are personally hurt because she chose to do a detox.
A diet detox doesn’t exist, that’s why.
Your body detoxes all day everyday, you believe a marketing scheme, I’m sorry. If you want to eat those foods- great. HOWEVER all you need is a calorie deficit to lose weight, but knock yourself out. Unless you can do it for the rest of your life, why are you setting yourself up for failure?
OP- rinse and repeat above. Don’t make things hard. Don’t cut out anything, eat at a deficit. This isn’t rocket science guys. You have years of brainwashing you need to “detox”.
I’m new here and it’s not that hard to go through the threads and learn, or at least check to see if a topic has been posted. I’m cringing for the veterans, I really am.12 -
pennylove76 wrote: »To the OP, good luck! Also, I think a detox every now and then is good. Doing a detox helps to reduce cravings, bloating and makes you feel better. I am also surprised that when someone says "no bread dairy or meat" that they would get so many negative comments. Especially, since bread is pretty much bad for you. It's high in carbs, sugar, not nutritional. Even if you choose wheat bread, it's likely made with Monsanto seeds. Also dairy (especially milk) has been shown to have so many hormones and according to many studies should not even be consumed. Heck many people are lactose intolerant and get sick from it anyway. Finally meat is so over eaten and the WHO has classified most meat as a carcinogen.
So tell me again why taking a break or "detox" away from these items and instead replacing them with veggies, fruits and lean proteins is bad? It's still reducing the total number of calories. Also, why so many negative responses. You all are acting like you are personally hurt because she chose to do a detox.
We're not hurt, we're concerned. What's she's doing is only temporary, as OP herself admitted she's only doing it for 90 days. But what about after those 90 days when she goes back to eating the exact same way that caused her to gain 40 lbs in the first place? She'll likely start the 90 day detox again, gain and lose the same 40 lbs over and over adding more weight to her body each time she does it. It's a vicious cycle, one that won't end until she admits that the only way to lose the weight for good is to make sustainable changes. Like counting calories, and only eating what her body needs to lose or maintain her weight.
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dinadyna21 wrote: »pennylove76 wrote: »To the OP, good luck! Also, I think a detox every now and then is good. Doing a detox helps to reduce cravings, bloating and makes you feel better. I am also surprised that when someone says "no bread dairy or meat" that they would get so many negative comments. Especially, since bread is pretty much bad for you. It's high in carbs, sugar, not nutritional. Even if you choose wheat bread, it's likely made with Monsanto seeds. Also dairy (especially milk) has been shown to have so many hormones and according to many studies should not even be consumed. Heck many people are lactose intolerant and get sick from it anyway. Finally meat is so over eaten and the WHO has classified most meat as a carcinogen.
So tell me again why taking a break or "detox" away from these items and instead replacing them with veggies, fruits and lean proteins is bad? It's still reducing the total number of calories. Also, why so many negative responses. You all are acting like you are personally hurt because she chose to do a detox.
We're not hurt, we're concerned. What's she's doing is only temporary, as OP herself admitted she's only doing it for 90 days. But what about after those 90 days when she goes back to eating the exact same way that caused her to gain 40 lbs in the first place? She'll likely start the 90 day detox again, gain and lose the same 40 lbs over and over adding more weight to her body each time she does it. It's a vicious cycle, one that won't end until she admits that the only way to lose the weight for good is to make sustainable changes. Like counting calories, and only eating what your body needs to lose or maintain her weight.
I think the reason we sometimes see a lot of concerned responses to posts like these is that many of us *know*, firsthand, how frustrating and painful it can be to be caught in a cycle of losing and regaining. Many of us have lived it and gone through elimination diets or excessive restriction followed by the frustration of "falling off the wagon" and regaining weight. So when we see people who are in the middle of it, we want to help.
It's a concern that comes from having lived it ourselves and wanting to try to help someone find something that actually works for more than a few weeks/months.16 -
janejellyroll wrote: »dinadyna21 wrote: »pennylove76 wrote: »To the OP, good luck! Also, I think a detox every now and then is good. Doing a detox helps to reduce cravings, bloating and makes you feel better. I am also surprised that when someone says "no bread dairy or meat" that they would get so many negative comments. Especially, since bread is pretty much bad for you. It's high in carbs, sugar, not nutritional. Even if you choose wheat bread, it's likely made with Monsanto seeds. Also dairy (especially milk) has been shown to have so many hormones and according to many studies should not even be consumed. Heck many people are lactose intolerant and get sick from it anyway. Finally meat is so over eaten and the WHO has classified most meat as a carcinogen.
So tell me again why taking a break or "detox" away from these items and instead replacing them with veggies, fruits and lean proteins is bad? It's still reducing the total number of calories. Also, why so many negative responses. You all are acting like you are personally hurt because she chose to do a detox.
We're not hurt, we're concerned. What's she's doing is only temporary, as OP herself admitted she's only doing it for 90 days. But what about after those 90 days when she goes back to eating the exact same way that caused her to gain 40 lbs in the first place? She'll likely start the 90 day detox again, gain and lose the same 40 lbs over and over adding more weight to her body each time she does it. It's a vicious cycle, one that won't end until she admits that the only way to lose the weight for good is to make sustainable changes. Like counting calories, and only eating what your body needs to lose or maintain her weight.
I think the reason we sometimes see a lot of concerned responses to posts like these is that many of us *know*, firsthand, how frustrating and painful it can be to be caught in a cycle of losing and regaining. Many of us have lived it and gone through elimination diets or excessive restriction followed by the frustration of "falling off the wagon" and regaining weight. So when we see people who are in the middle of it, we want to help.
It's a concern that comes from having lived it ourselves and wanting to try to help someone find something that actually works for more than a few weeks/months.
You're right, I was stuck in that cycle for the longest time hating myself for not being able to lose the weight. It wasn't until I found MFP, and a few other sites that I'm not sure I can mention on here that I finally realized what was holding me back. For those who are struggling like I was just google "You're fat because you eat too much." It sounds harsh but for me, it was true.5 -
I gained a bunch of weight and i needed something drastic to jumpstart my 40lb loss so Im doing the fat smash diet, which consists of 9 days of detox. No bread, dairy or meat. Its day 3, I woke up starving but I feel ok. Let's do this!
Why did you wake up starving? You shouldn't be starving on the Fat Smash Diet if you are doing it correctly. You aren't supposed to be drastically under-eating.
While "detox" is a dirty word on MFP, the diet plan itself sounds pretty healthy. If you do it correctly that is.0 -
collectingblues wrote: »orionaimee wrote: »Wow, a lot of bossy negative people on here. You will need to walk your own walk on this weight loss journey and find what works for you. Sometimes people just feel like junk after the holidays and want to flush their system out. If this works for you then great, if not then MFP is full of people who will support you on a different path. Happy New Year!
What you "feel like" doesn't mean that there's actually any science or reason behind it. Or that it's even a good idea.
Anorexics "feel like" they're always fat (OK, so at least those with BDD) and can't eat at a reasonable deficit because they need to lose weight. Even if they're underweight. Substance abuse people "feel like" they always need that high. Alcoholics "feel like" they need just that one more drink to get through the day.
Does that mean they should do it?
What do you think is unhealthy about the diet. Other than vocabulary.1 -
Need2Exerc1se wrote: »collectingblues wrote: »orionaimee wrote: »Wow, a lot of bossy negative people on here. You will need to walk your own walk on this weight loss journey and find what works for you. Sometimes people just feel like junk after the holidays and want to flush their system out. If this works for you then great, if not then MFP is full of people who will support you on a different path. Happy New Year!
What you "feel like" doesn't mean that there's actually any science or reason behind it. Or that it's even a good idea.
Anorexics "feel like" they're always fat (OK, so at least those with BDD) and can't eat at a reasonable deficit because they need to lose weight. Even if they're underweight. Substance abuse people "feel like" they always need that high. Alcoholics "feel like" they need just that one more drink to get through the day.
Does that mean they should do it?
What do you think is unhealthy about the diet. Other than vocabulary.
You'll note that I said nothing about the diet, beyond it having no roots in science or anything that provides anything even resembling an evidence-based practice.
But let's not delude ourselves into thinking that just because someone "feels like" doing something, that it must be ok.
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Need2Exerc1se wrote: »collectingblues wrote: »orionaimee wrote: »Wow, a lot of bossy negative people on here. You will need to walk your own walk on this weight loss journey and find what works for you. Sometimes people just feel like junk after the holidays and want to flush their system out. If this works for you then great, if not then MFP is full of people who will support you on a different path. Happy New Year!
What you "feel like" doesn't mean that there's actually any science or reason behind it. Or that it's even a good idea.
Anorexics "feel like" they're always fat (OK, so at least those with BDD) and can't eat at a reasonable deficit because they need to lose weight. Even if they're underweight. Substance abuse people "feel like" they always need that high. Alcoholics "feel like" they need just that one more drink to get through the day.
Does that mean they should do it?
What do you think is unhealthy about the diet. Other than vocabulary.
Not the poster you referenced, but my first thought is that most of these temporary fad diets aren't unhealthy physically. Even the stupid master cleanse isn't going to do lasting physical damage. The problem is that they are all temporary (and often very restrictive), and I think it's an easy argument to build that yo-yo dieting is a notable contributor to the obesity crisis. People do temporary fad diets, lose a bunch of weight fast, don't learn anything, gain a bunch of weight back, over and over and eventually stop trying.
I agree that ultimately, OP isn't going to physically hurt herself doing this 90 day diet, but she will possibly be burying herself further in the restrict/give up cycle that keeps so many people overweight and feeling like failures. It looks like she's going to have to learn that the hard way though!4 -
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One of the biggest concerns with perpetuating the detox woo (and other dieting myths) is the psychological damage. How many people have spent years of their life in a vicious cycle tormenting themselves because of lies and misinformation? I for one have been on the dieting rollercoaster since 3rd grade. That does take a toll on your body, and even more specifically your mind. Because of these threads, we can and do change peoples lives. Sometimes the truth “seems” harsh, but they’re doing people an immense favor.8
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