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I have been reading up on it and was thinking about trying it out. Anyone on here so it or have done it? Is it as effective as it's made out to Be?
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  • alteredsteve175
    alteredsteve175 Posts: 2,716 Member
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    I have been reading up on it and was thinking about trying it out. Anyone on here so it or have done it? Is it as effective as it's made out to Be?

    Go here. All the info you need to get you started.

    community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-lcd-group

  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
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    It can be a good tool for improving health and helping with weight loss. It seems the people whose health benefit the most from it have insulin resistance, some autoimmune issues or CVD; it can also be used to supplement some cancer therapies.

    For weight loss, again those with insulin resistance tend to lose better on a LCHF diet, and those who do not do well with moderating carb intake.

    It is a pretty long term fix though. It seems that those who do it for a short time, and then go back to a carb heavier diet, tend to regain the weight because they have not learned how to eat that way. The most successful people who do keto tend to do it for a longer time like 1-2 + years, and then possibly SLOWLY add in more carbs. Or not.


    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-lcd-group

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/1143-keto

    There is a lot of knowledge and support in both groups.
  • Galpin2016
    Galpin2016 Posts: 5 Member
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    mic1018
    Same here.....I lost 7 lbs....it is very motivating! Plus my cravings are practically gone!
  • youwillsee1day
    youwillsee1day Posts: 24 Member
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    What about the keto flu the first couple of days?
  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
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    What about the keto flu the first couple of days?

    That is usually an elctrolyte imbalance from not replacing lost sodium. If one increases sodium to at least 3000-5000 mg a day, the electrolyte imbalance is usually avoided.
  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
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    saintor1 wrote: »
    Would avoid long term. Keto as most low-carb diets raises total cholesterol. Don't believe people who says it doesn't matter. A third of cardiac events occurs with persons having their total cholesterol between 150 and 200 mg/dl (200 is max. guideline). There is next to none when the persons have less than 150.

    Unless one has familial hypercholesterolemia, there is very little linking total cholesterol to CVD.

    High triglycerides and low HDL have a much stronger link to CVD, but both tend to improve on a ketogenic diet
  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
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    saintor1 wrote: »
    This link is an interesting read.
    http://www.dresselstyn.com/site/study05/
    More supporting data continued to pour in. For example, coronary artery disease is virtually unknown in populations that subsist primarily on grains, legumes, vegetables, and fruits, such as those in rural China. 6,7 Normal adult cholesterol levels in these populations range from 90 to 150 mg/dL.

    Yeah... it was fairly unknown among low carb groups like the plains first nations peoples, Inuit and Masai too. ;)

    All are low in highly processed and refined foods though...
  • saintor1
    saintor1 Posts: 376 Member
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    Are you referring to them?
    http://nutritionstudies.org/masai-and-inuit-high-protein-diets-a-closer-look/
    Dr. Mann, who published some of the early research, did an autopsy study of 50 Masai men and found that they had extensive atherosclerosis. They had disease (coronary intimal thickening) on par with older American men. Over 80% of the men over age 40 had severe fibrosis in their aorta, the main blood vessel from the heart that supplies the rest of the body with blood.
  • russelljam08
    russelljam08 Posts: 167 Member
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    saintor1 wrote: »
    Are you referring to them?
    http://nutritionstudies.org/masai-and-inuit-high-protein-diets-a-closer-look/
    Dr. Mann, who published some of the early research, did an autopsy study of 50 Masai men and found that they had extensive atherosclerosis. They had disease (coronary intimal thickening) on par with older American men. Over 80% of the men over age 40 had severe fibrosis in their aorta, the main blood vessel from the heart that supplies the rest of the body with blood.

    This. The Inuits are well known for their heart issues. But the obese keto followers will continue to parrot the Inuits, LOL at their delusion
  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
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    No.
    Just the lack of incidence observed before their diets changed.
  • sijomial
    sijomial Posts: 19,811 Member
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    nvmomketo wrote: »
    No.
    Just the lack of incidence observed before their diets entire lifestyle changed.

    FIFY
  • jseams1234
    jseams1234 Posts: 1,216 Member
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    Isn't the life expectancy of Maasai men mid 40's?

    ... although I'm not sure if it's diet or simply because of violence, environment, lack of resources like medicine (lots of venereal disease in their population), clean water and those pesky lions. ;)