low carb high protein plant based diet

eco-atkins is probably what a vegan would opt for and a lacto-ovo vegetarian would have an easier time. Those macros don't seem too hard to reach, though. I'll stick to my carbs, though

I would bring up your issues with your weight loss doctor, though, since really long term adherence tends to be the largest issue.

Are you reaching your calorie goal daily? Try filling the calorie gap with fat sources.

It is possible to do a low carb diet that is plant based, but it is extremely limited given that vegans and vegetarians tend to eat higher carbs...'cuz most plants are carbs.

120 grams of protein seems excessive to me...more than about 1 gram per Lb of LBM is just making expensive glucose and is of no real benefit.

Most people who do low carb like that do high fat and moderate protein...but again, while possible with a plant based diet, it would be extremely limited and restrictive in regards to what you can eat which could be a major issue for long term adherence.

Usually low carb is high fat, because you get energy from either carbs or fat. Did they give you a reason for that odd combo? Is there a medical condition involved?

There's nothing wrong with 120g but it's high and unless you are going to eat a lot of meat and low carb protein powder, unnecessarily difficult to do with low carbs. The most important number for weight loss is calories. Your macro choices should make it as easy as possible for you to hit your calorie goal. If those macros are making it hard for you, that's counterproductive.

I have nothing nice to say about what usually passes for a "weight loss doctor" but I'll just leave it at that.

Eating to lose weight doesn't have to be difficult, please don't let them convince you it does! Good luck

sounds like the packet was just badly put together information - because you can find out rough corresponding weights for the calories given for example

100g avocado is 160cal

olive oil as it is a liquid could be measured with a tbsp but you could also do a g measure

my recommendation would be find the entries in MFP that have g serving size data

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Why is it one thinks of the best questions when you have left the office? This is me all the time. Most dietary advice is directed at omnivores, little if any consideration is given to those preferring less or no meat of any kind. I've seen some on-line low carb vegetarian or vegan sites they may give you some more preferable/palatable ideas to suit yourself, at least enough ideas to start you off. Your personal preferences are all that matter here. There are some very interesting recipes out there too. I've been using more nuts for protein in preference to beans and pulses.

I wonder if the avocado suggestion was for avocado OIL rather than the fruit, I have seen it referred to in recipes though I have not tried it, I've probably looked for it in the wrong places.

All the very best I am sure you can find better ways for you to achieve the numbers which have been suggested for you.

I suggest you do an on-line search setting your own parameters for vegetarian or vegan low carb meal plans, even recipes. Livestrong had a section. Jillian Mitchels as well. There are others.

I'm not sure using a facility which revolves around weight loss surgery is the best way to go. I can understand anyone's need to get the best information there is. Its a good idea to protect yourself as far as you can from various health issues. There is some interesting information surfacing about vit d, it seems it is a very versatile thing. It is being picked up because being low in it can play a role in cancer and other conditions. Most of us spend less time in the outdoors than we did only a few years ago which reduces our own production. Many of us in the northern hemisphere are often low in it, the NHS is recommending using it. Perhaps you could also look into nutrition more generally. There are several essential minerals which are often underrepresented in our diets which play key roles in maintaining good health. Its a very interesting subject our bodies are more complicated than we give them credit for.

By the way, we may appear to have a genetic predisposition to things but increasingly it is being realised the way we choose to live our lives, what we eat, where we live and other environmental factors play more of a role than simply genetics its clicking the switch or not which matters, epigenetics. Hope this helps.

Russian_Wren wrote: »

Thank you all for your responses. As far as I understand, fat is by serving size where as everything else is measured at a specific number of grams. As I am looking over the packet she gave me and I think I see some changes that can be made. I have extremely high levels of cancer, heart disease and diabetes in my family. The goal for this year is to become vegan. I have problems with dairy, which is why I have stayed away from yogurt and cottage cheese protein. I’m going to tweak the protein levels.

If you have those in your family best bet is to continuously get tested and monitor health. Going vegan won't prevent those. But keeping a healthy weight, exercising and eating a nutrient dense diet will provide the best chance for prevention.

I wouldn't stress the low carb thing too much, but rather focus on whole foods that fill you up and give you the best chance of sustaining this plan.

I’m a vegetarian and am trying to increase my protein intake. I’ve recently made it across the 100g barrier! Today I’ve managed 130g. I do use shakes, you can buy soy and other plant based ones that give you around 20g per 120 calories.

The Low Carber Daily group has a great vegan and vegetarian section in their launch pad:

http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-lcd-group

The Wahl's Protocal is a plant based low carb diet that could work for you. Protein Power might have the right macros but it it isn't vegetarian.

Good luck.

Russian_Wren wrote: »

Thank you all for your responses. As far as I understand, fat is by serving size where as everything else is measured at a specific number of grams. As I am looking over the packet she gave me and I think I see some changes that can be made. I have extremely high levels of cancer, heart disease and diabetes in my family. The goal for this year is to become vegan. I have problems with dairy, which is why I have stayed away from yogurt and cottage cheese protein. I’m going to tweak the protein levels.

Many people here think 0.6-0.8g protein daily, per pound of healthy goal weight, is sufficient, or more than sufficient, during weight loss. (A few, usually on the intense weight training end of the spectrum, would argue for more.)

For example, I get 100g or more daily on an ovo-lacto veg way of eating at 1850 (for 120 pounds goal, though I'm in the low 130s post-holidays, 2nd year of maintenance, 5'5", 62 y/o)). This is without fake meat, or protein bars/powder (nothing wrong with those foods, I personally just don't enjoy them . . . and I do eat a good bit of dairy, which you can't.)

Speaking as a 17-year Stage III (locally advanced) breast cancer survivor: If it's doable for you, I hope a regular exercise program is on your radar. That's a very powerful anti-cancer strategy at any weight. Another is ample micro-nutrients, best achieved through 5+ servings of colorful fruit/veg daily - but I'm thinking you've likely got that covered with the plant-based goal.

Like others, I feel some skepticism about the quality of your doctor's dietary advice.

Wishing you robust health and successful weight loss!