Keto diet

raymondjones3093
raymondjones3093 Posts: 1 Member
edited November 23 in Health and Weight Loss
I have been reading up on it and was thinking about trying it out. Anyone on here so it or have done it? Is it as effective as it's made out to Be?
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  • alteredsteve175
    alteredsteve175 Posts: 2,725 Member
    I have been reading up on it and was thinking about trying it out. Anyone on here so it or have done it? Is it as effective as it's made out to Be?

    Go here. All the info you need to get you started.

    community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-lcd-group

  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
    It can be a good tool for improving health and helping with weight loss. It seems the people whose health benefit the most from it have insulin resistance, some autoimmune issues or CVD; it can also be used to supplement some cancer therapies.

    For weight loss, again those with insulin resistance tend to lose better on a LCHF diet, and those who do not do well with moderating carb intake.

    It is a pretty long term fix though. It seems that those who do it for a short time, and then go back to a carb heavier diet, tend to regain the weight because they have not learned how to eat that way. The most successful people who do keto tend to do it for a longer time like 1-2 + years, and then possibly SLOWLY add in more carbs. Or not.


    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/394-low-carber-daily-forum-the-lcd-group

    http://community.myfitnesspal.com/en/group/1143-keto

    There is a lot of knowledge and support in both groups.
  • Galpin2016
    Galpin2016 Posts: 5 Member
    mic1018
    Same here.....I lost 7 lbs....it is very motivating! Plus my cravings are practically gone!
  • youwillsee1day
    youwillsee1day Posts: 24 Member
    What about the keto flu the first couple of days?
  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
    What about the keto flu the first couple of days?

    That is usually an elctrolyte imbalance from not replacing lost sodium. If one increases sodium to at least 3000-5000 mg a day, the electrolyte imbalance is usually avoided.
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  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
    saintor1 wrote: »
    Would avoid long term. Keto as most low-carb diets raises total cholesterol. Don't believe people who says it doesn't matter. A third of cardiac events occurs with persons having their total cholesterol between 150 and 200 mg/dl (200 is max. guideline). There is next to none when the persons have less than 150.

    Unless one has familial hypercholesterolemia, there is very little linking total cholesterol to CVD.

    High triglycerides and low HDL have a much stronger link to CVD, but both tend to improve on a ketogenic diet
  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
    saintor1 wrote: »
    This link is an interesting read.
    http://www.dresselstyn.com/site/study05/
    More supporting data continued to pour in. For example, coronary artery disease is virtually unknown in populations that subsist primarily on grains, legumes, vegetables, and fruits, such as those in rural China. 6,7 Normal adult cholesterol levels in these populations range from 90 to 150 mg/dL.

    Yeah... it was fairly unknown among low carb groups like the plains first nations peoples, Inuit and Masai too. ;)

    All are low in highly processed and refined foods though...
  • saintor1
    saintor1 Posts: 376 Member
    Are you referring to them?
    http://nutritionstudies.org/masai-and-inuit-high-protein-diets-a-closer-look/
    Dr. Mann, who published some of the early research, did an autopsy study of 50 Masai men and found that they had extensive atherosclerosis. They had disease (coronary intimal thickening) on par with older American men. Over 80% of the men over age 40 had severe fibrosis in their aorta, the main blood vessel from the heart that supplies the rest of the body with blood.
  • russelljam08
    russelljam08 Posts: 167 Member
    saintor1 wrote: »
    Are you referring to them?
    http://nutritionstudies.org/masai-and-inuit-high-protein-diets-a-closer-look/
    Dr. Mann, who published some of the early research, did an autopsy study of 50 Masai men and found that they had extensive atherosclerosis. They had disease (coronary intimal thickening) on par with older American men. Over 80% of the men over age 40 had severe fibrosis in their aorta, the main blood vessel from the heart that supplies the rest of the body with blood.

    This. The Inuits are well known for their heart issues. But the obese keto followers will continue to parrot the Inuits, LOL at their delusion
  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
    No.
    Just the lack of incidence observed before their diets changed.
  • sijomial
    sijomial Posts: 19,809 Member
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    No.
    Just the lack of incidence observed before their diets entire lifestyle changed.

    FIFY
  • jseams1234
    jseams1234 Posts: 1,219 Member
    Isn't the life expectancy of Maasai men mid 40's?

    ... although I'm not sure if it's diet or simply because of violence, environment, lack of resources like medicine (lots of venereal disease in their population), clean water and those pesky lions. ;)
  • maryjennifer
    maryjennifer Posts: 124 Member
    I am on it right now. It works.
  • nvmomketo
    nvmomketo Posts: 12,019 Member
    sijomial wrote: »
    nvmomketo wrote: »
    No.
    Just the lack of incidence observed before their diets entire lifestyle changed.

    FIFY

    True.
  • dybbukgirl
    dybbukgirl Posts: 16 Member
    I was on a keto diet since about August, and don't have anything particularly good or bad to say about it. It's just like any other diet.

    I attempted keto because I have an autoimmune disorder, and I've heard from others with the same disorder that it'd helped alleviate their symptoms. This hasn't really been the case for me, at all.

    It's also a very boring diet. I don't like bacon, I don't like beef in general (and it's expensive, and I can't eat cheese or dairy, so I'm left to like... Very few ingredients, very few recipes, and everything just winds up tasting the same. Bland.

    I did lose weight on this diet, but I felt like death warmed over throughout. All while drinking bouillon and taking magnesium.

    There's a peer reviewed study regarding the effect of keto diets on obese patients. This one has a sample size of only 83 patients, so take note. And this is a general overview of the diet with its claims sourced. Please use caution when getting dietary advice off the internet-- yeah, even my post here-- because there's a lot of money to be made off diets and people are, in general, moneygrubbers.
  • lucyxolu
    lucyxolu Posts: 14 Member
    I've done some research on it too, however, I decided to take a different path with it. I am focusing more on less carbs because I do love breads and rice. I just limited myself to 30-40 net carbs but I still enjoy wraps, breads, etc. Now a days there are tons of products, if you want to go down the processed route that provide low-carb options for pasta, bagels, bread, snacks, etc. I am a fan of Quest protein chips and the website Linda's Diet Delights has a bunch of low-carb products that I have enjoyed as well. I also watch my fat intake as well and have that set as a limit for myself on the app.
  • dybbukgirl
    dybbukgirl Posts: 16 Member
    As soon as the diet doctor website is rolled out I need to back away because nope.

    Yeah, that's exactly what I mean when I say "money grubbers."
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