Weight Gain on 1200cal and 5 Miles a day?
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newmanc0299 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »could be a couple things...holding onto water for repair of muscle with new running regimen...and if you're eating very low calories and then doing all of that running and not fueling that activity, you're putting a major stress on your body and raising cortisol levels which will inhibit and slow weight loss...my guess would be a combo of both things.
Are you eating some of your exercise calories back to account for your running activity? 1200 calories assumes sedentary...if you're running 5 miles per day, you're not sedentary.
I really just stick to the 1200 and don't really eat anything back...fitbit has a tracking part for daily calorie expenditure (so it creates a 1000cal deficit), and it tells me I'm in the target zone when I eat 1200 and burn off 2250 cal a day, which I seem to only be able to do with exercise.
2 lbs a week at a normal BMI is a recipe for all sorts of badness.
You'll need to adjust your expectations.13 -
newmanc0299 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Why are you eating so little?
I didn't realize it wasn't enough! Even my nutritionist told me to stay around 1200 because we don't really realize how little we burn.
If my nutritionist knew that I was running five miles a day and recommended a 1,200 calorie diet to me, I'd be looking for a new one pronto. That isn't enough and they ought to know that.36 -
newmanc0299 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Why are you eating so little?
I didn't realize it wasn't enough! Even my nutritionist told me to stay around 1200 because we don't really realize how little we burn.
I have similar stats to you, I would starve to death or eat my husband on 1200 cals. And I only run 3 x a week.
Aim to lose 0.5lb per week and use bodyweight in lbs x 0.63 x distance in miles to get your running burn and eat those calories back too.18 -
stanmann571 wrote: »newmanc0299 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »could be a couple things...holding onto water for repair of muscle with new running regimen...and if you're eating very low calories and then doing all of that running and not fueling that activity, you're putting a major stress on your body and raising cortisol levels which will inhibit and slow weight loss...my guess would be a combo of both things.
Are you eating some of your exercise calories back to account for your running activity? 1200 calories assumes sedentary...if you're running 5 miles per day, you're not sedentary.
I really just stick to the 1200 and don't really eat anything back...fitbit has a tracking part for daily calorie expenditure (so it creates a 1000cal deficit), and it tells me I'm in the target zone when I eat 1200 and burn off 2250 cal a day, which I seem to only be able to do with exercise.
2 lbs a week at a normal BMI is a recipe for all sorts of badness.
You'll need to adjust your expectations.
good to know. thank you!2 -
Like I said, I am a former dancer and all my friends eat 700 calories a day and run 6-8 miles, so I thought I was doing quite a lot in terms of calorie consumption/less exercise.9
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Did you build up to 5 miles, 6 days a week? If not, please cut back and start building up slowly! You're at high risk of an overuse injury. If you did build up, then I would recommend looking into a proper running programme rather than just running 5 miles every day. It wont effect your weight, but it will improve your performance. And if you are gonna run 6 days a week, you might as well get good at it, right? I would also recommend adding in (or replacing 1-2 runs) resistance training. It will help you hold onto as much muscle as you can, reduce injury risk from running, and improve your running performance.1
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speedingticket wrote: »Did you build up to 5 miles, 6 days a week? If not, please cut back and start building up slowly! You're at high risk of an overuse injury. If you did build up, then I would recommend looking into a proper running programme rather than just running 5 miles every day. It wont effect your weight, but it will improve your performance. And if you are gonna run 6 days a week, you might as well get good at it, right? I would also recommend adding in (or replacing 1-2 runs) resistance training. It will help you hold onto as much muscle as you can, reduce injury risk from running, and improve your running performance.
yes I did...in fact, I started last year around this time running 2-3 times per week and ended up with a stress fracture, so I've had to build up to it. Thank you for your help!!!2 -
newmanc0299 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Why are you eating so little?
I didn't realize it wasn't enough! Even my nutritionist told me to stay around 1200 because we don't really realize how little we burn.
You're already at a healthy weight...trying to lose weight really fast at a normal BMI is going to be a recipe for disaster.
A nutritionist generally doesn't really need any kind of formal training other than an online class to get a certificate...there are probably good ones, but I'd say this one isn't one of the good ones.
My wife is 5'2"/5'3" and 42 years old and runs about 5 miles 5-6 days per week and typically loses weight pretty steadily on about 1800 calories per day when she cuts her winter weight.
With your stats, you're burning around 425 calories per 5 mile run...so eating only 1200 calories (for a sedentary person) and burning off 425, you're netting 775 calories per day...it's the exact same thing as just eating 775 calories per day which would be in the realm of a morbidly obese person dieting under medical supervision...11 -
TavistockToad wrote: »newmanc0299 wrote: »TavistockToad wrote: »Why are you eating so little?
I didn't realize it wasn't enough! Even my nutritionist told me to stay around 1200 because we don't really realize how little we burn.
I have similar stats to you, I would starve to death or eat my husband on 1200 cals. And I only run 3 x a week.
Aim to lose 0.5lb per week and use bodyweight in lbs x 0.63 x distance in miles to get your running burn and eat those calories back too.
Pretty sure my wife would actually eat me if she only ate 1200 calories... it's 50/50 most days as it is.
Rather than trying to estimate NEAT and exercise calories I've had success using a spreadsheet to back-calculate actual TDEE from daily weight changes and calorie logging. Personally, I was getting an overestimate for calories from MFP + HR monitor workout calories. Got my TDEE and the correct deficit level dialed in, down 10lbs overall and 5lbs alone since New Years. https://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/wiki/getting_started link to the google sheet under "Step 1".5 -
newmanc0299 wrote: »Like I said, I am a former dancer and all my friends eat 700 calories a day and run 6-8 miles, so I thought I was doing quite a lot in terms of calorie consumption/less exercise.
The dance community much like the Bodybuilding community promotes behaviors that may or may not actually be EDs, but definitely look like ED from an objective perspective.
Note: Not judging. Professional gymnasts/fighters do many of the same things. And when you're performing/competing at those levels, sacrifices are made. But it makes adjusting to reality post career very challenging.30 -
cwolfman13 wrote: »gorditalindaz wrote: »I would suggest a fancy scale that measures BMI, Fat percentage, water percentage and muscle percentage. That way you can see if it is muscle gain or water
Those scales are hugely inaccurate for measuring BF%. Consumer Reports won't even test or make recommendations for them anymore due to being so wildly inaccurate.
They are known to be innacurate, but they can give you a point of reference. Just take the numbers with a grain of salt and focus on moving them the direction you need to.5 -
Ah, yeah, you'll often get a skewed perspective from the dance community, ballet especially. Misty Copeland has done a lot to change what a ballet dancer should look like but things are always slow to change.
Eat more. And I'd encourage investing in a food scale instead of using cups for solids, they're inaccurate and you may be one of those people who has a propensity to underfill them.
You'll probably feel about 1000x better once you start eating more as well.
And a side note about being on the pill, I still get monthly trackable fluctuations and symptoms, so that could still be a factor.15 -
Jeepfreak81 wrote: »cwolfman13 wrote: »gorditalindaz wrote: »I would suggest a fancy scale that measures BMI, Fat percentage, water percentage and muscle percentage. That way you can see if it is muscle gain or water
Those scales are hugely inaccurate for measuring BF%. Consumer Reports won't even test or make recommendations for them anymore due to being so wildly inaccurate.
They are known to be innacurate, but they can give you a point of reference. Just take the numbers with a grain of salt and focus on moving them the direction you need to.
The only problem is that a lot of people don't know that and don't take the numbers with a grain of salt...tons of posts here in regards to "I've lost X Lbs but my scale says my BF% is going up...I'm losing all muscle...HALP!!!"1 -
You've gained 32 pounds in 6 months? The weight gain in the last couple of weeks could be water weight related to the addition of running; however, 32 pounds is not water weight (without some major medical issues) if you've been at a deficit. Were you on 1200 calories/day from August until now? Have you been checked out by a doctor during this time?1
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You've gained 32 pounds in 6 months? The weight gain in the last couple of weeks could be water weight related to the addition of running; however, 32 pounds is not water weight (without some major medical issues) if you've been at a deficit. Were you on 1200 calories/day from August until now? Have you been checked out by a doctor during this time?
let me explain a bit...I was running more in the past and before August, I was eating even less because I never felt hungry. and yes I have been on 1200 because I wanted to make sure I was eating enough, but I also have something called gastroparesis and I have it so badly that I couldn't eat vegetables until about 2 weeks ago, so a lot of my calories came from fruits and whole grains...I would eat broccoli with lunch and dinner because that is all I could eat. but yes, 1200. I am also borderline for hypothyroidism but not quite fully diagnosed.1 -
You're massively under eating, and if your running routine is new, possibly over exercising too. That puts the body in a very stressful state. Stress hormones and water weight go hand in hand. At least now you know, your body is giving you clear warning signs and it would be smart to do something about it before you do any further damage. Increase your calories to a more reasonable rate of weight loss (for your weight, an acceptable deficit would be 250-300 calories or about half a pound a week), find a reasonable running program, and eat back at least some of your exercise calories.6
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At 110lbs you were underweight, I hope that isn't your goal now...3
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newmanc0299 wrote: »You've gained 32 pounds in 6 months? The weight gain in the last couple of weeks could be water weight related to the addition of running; however, 32 pounds is not water weight (without some major medical issues) if you've been at a deficit. Were you on 1200 calories/day from August until now? Have you been checked out by a doctor during this time?
let me explain a bit...I was running more in the past and before August, I was eating even less because I never felt hungry. and yes I have been on 1200 because I wanted to make sure I was eating enough, but I also have something called gastroparesis and I have it so badly that I couldn't eat vegetables until about 2 weeks ago, so a lot of my calories came from fruits and whole grains...I would eat broccoli with lunch and dinner because that is all I could eat. but yes, 1200. I am also borderline for hypothyroidism but not quite fully diagnosed.
So being hypothyroid has caused you to gain the 30lbs?0 -
At 110lbs you were underweight, I hope that isn't your goal now...
oh of course not!!!! I'm out of the performing arts career so I really don't have any pressure to be thin, anyway. I just want to be healthy, and I had no idea how unhealthy I was still, even in my attempts to be "healthier"2 -
TavistockToad wrote: »newmanc0299 wrote: »You've gained 32 pounds in 6 months? The weight gain in the last couple of weeks could be water weight related to the addition of running; however, 32 pounds is not water weight (without some major medical issues) if you've been at a deficit. Were you on 1200 calories/day from August until now? Have you been checked out by a doctor during this time?
let me explain a bit...I was running more in the past and before August, I was eating even less because I never felt hungry. and yes I have been on 1200 because I wanted to make sure I was eating enough, but I also have something called gastroparesis and I have it so badly that I couldn't eat vegetables until about 2 weeks ago, so a lot of my calories came from fruits and whole grains...I would eat broccoli with lunch and dinner because that is all I could eat. but yes, 1200. I am also borderline for hypothyroidism but not quite fully diagnosed.
So being hypothyroid has caused you to gain the 30lbs?
I have absolutely no idea... It just seemed like the weigh just kept coming on, no matter how hard I've tried to stop it.1
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