Sodium Intake locked at 2300mg/day?

dcopeland117
dcopeland117 Posts: 1 Member
edited November 2024 in Health and Weight Loss
Hi all,

I was just wondering why sodium intake doesn't adjust based on exercise. You sweat out salt when you exercise, therefore need it replenished, which should add to the recommended 2300mg/day correct?

i.e;

I perform high intensity cardio for an hour and lose a pound in sweat, equivalent to 500mg of sodium. My daily recommended sodium intake should now be 2300 + 500 (2800).

How come myfitnesspal doesn't do this?
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  • StevefromMichigan
    StevefromMichigan Posts: 462 Member
    kazgorat1 wrote: »
    The American Heart Association recommends no more than 2,300 milligrams (mgs) a day and an ideal limit of no more than 1,500 mg per day for most adults.

    I probably wouldn't recommend upping your sodium intake to account for exercise.

    That could be very dangerous advice.

    Perhaps you can explain...
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  • wizzybeth
    wizzybeth Posts: 3,578 Member
    Well I just ignore it when I get the red numbers. I go over my sodium every so often and it doesn't affect anything it's just there to make you mind full of how much you're having. I wouldn't worry about it
  • CharlieBeansmomTracey
    CharlieBeansmomTracey Posts: 7,682 Member
    wizzybeth wrote: »
    Well I just ignore it when I get the red numbers. I go over my sodium every so often and it doesn't affect anything it's just there to make you mind full of how much you're having. I wouldn't worry about it

    only thing it will do is cause water retention and mask weight loss.
  • StevefromMichigan
    StevefromMichigan Posts: 462 Member
    kazgorat1 wrote: »
    kazgorat1 wrote: »
    The American Heart Association recommends no more than 2,300 milligrams (mgs) a day and an ideal limit of no more than 1,500 mg per day for most adults.

    I probably wouldn't recommend upping your sodium intake to account for exercise.

    That could be very dangerous advice.

    Perhaps you can explain...

    Explain that a blanket statement to NOT increase sodium due to excersise can be dangerous.....how does that need any explanation.

    OP stated he was consuming 2300mg and losing 500 through exercise, hence a net intake of 1800mg, which is well within normal range.

    Given the known association of excess sodium to increased high blood pressure and possible issues with kidney function, I probably wouldn't recommend it in his case.
  • StevefromMichigan
    StevefromMichigan Posts: 462 Member
    wizzybeth wrote: »
    Well I just ignore it when I get the red numbers. I go over my sodium every so often and it doesn't affect anything it's just there to make you mind full of how much you're having. I wouldn't worry about it

    only thing it will do is cause water retention and mask weight loss.

    And high blood pressure and potentially extra strain on your kidneys.
  • 1houndgal
    1houndgal Posts: 558 Member
    Athletes can help with their electrolyte stores by drinking beverages designed to replenish them if needed. I use propel on days I feel I need to. It is sugar free and helps if I have a long hard workout in the pool.
  • CharlieBeansmomTracey
    CharlieBeansmomTracey Posts: 7,682 Member
    kazgorat1 wrote: »
    kazgorat1 wrote: »
    The American Heart Association recommends no more than 2,300 milligrams (mgs) a day and an ideal limit of no more than 1,500 mg per day for most adults.

    I probably wouldn't recommend upping your sodium intake to account for exercise.

    That could be very dangerous advice.

    Perhaps you can explain...

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2657026/
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17617999

    Hyponatremia is one thing that can happen when you dont have enough sodium in the body.
  • StevefromMichigan
    StevefromMichigan Posts: 462 Member
    I agree, but the OP was netting 1800mg, well within normal range.
  • wizzybeth
    wizzybeth Posts: 3,578 Member
    wizzybeth wrote: »
    Well I just ignore it when I get the red numbers. I go over my sodium every so often and it doesn't affect anything it's just there to make you mind full of how much you're having. I wouldn't worry about it

    only thing it will do is cause water retention and mask weight loss.

    I know that. But I drink quite a bit of water so that isn't a problem for me
  • CharlieBeansmomTracey
    CharlieBeansmomTracey Posts: 7,682 Member
    edited February 2018
    kazgorat1 wrote: »
    I agree, but the OP was netting 1800mg, well within normal range.

    well I dont see any harm in if he wants to replace that sodium. it will help retain any water in the system to help keep him hydrated as well. especially if he is feeling off or his urine changes color. he may not have any side effects from not replacing it short term. but its going to vary by person. so its a YMMV type thing
  • CharlieBeansmomTracey
    CharlieBeansmomTracey Posts: 7,682 Member
    wizzybeth wrote: »
    wizzybeth wrote: »
    Well I just ignore it when I get the red numbers. I go over my sodium every so often and it doesn't affect anything it's just there to make you mind full of how much you're having. I wouldn't worry about it

    only thing it will do is cause water retention and mask weight loss.

    I know that. But I drink quite a bit of water so that isn't a problem for me

    well yeah that can help too.
  • CharlieBeansmomTracey
    CharlieBeansmomTracey Posts: 7,682 Member
    your sodium intake should be at least 5000 miligrams a day easily....Im always at around 6 thousand...This is a closely guarded health and fat loss secret....especially if you exercise correctly. Be careful of what salt you do buy....Make sure its clean....I have experimented with this for years....

    why should his sodium be that high? unless hes doing keto and how does that much sodium going to help fat loss? fat is lost in a deficit not an overabundance of sodium
  • StevefromMichigan
    StevefromMichigan Posts: 462 Member
    your sodium intake should be at least 5000 miligrams a day easily....Im always at around 6 thousand...This is a closely guarded health and fat loss secret....especially if you exercise correctly. Be careful of what salt you do buy....Make sure its clean....I have experimented with this for years....

    That's just crazy. OP, I recommend that you A) speak to your doctor, and B) do your own research. I sent you a link to the WHO website. AMA, Harvard and others are good places to read up as well.

    With that, I am exiting this thread.
  • Marilyn0924
    Marilyn0924 Posts: 797 Member
    your sodium intake should be at least 5000 miligrams a day easily....Im always at around 6 thousand...This is a closely guarded health and fat loss secret....especially if you exercise correctly. Be careful of what salt you do buy....Make sure its clean....I have experimented with this for years....

    why should his sodium be that high? unless hes doing keto and how does that much sodium going to help fat loss? fat is lost in a deficit not an overabundance of sodium

    Ignore this one...he posts the most ridiculous things on random posts. I smell a troll...
  • collectingblues
    collectingblues Posts: 2,541 Member
    Honestly, I ignore the sodium tracker. I see a dietitian who specializes in sports nutrition, and she has me aim for 2000 mg at a minimum, and not to worry if I get over 2300 mg. I used to hover around 1400-1400 mg, and then get horrendous spikes when I approached 2400 -- she called that amount inadequate for someone as active as I am, and that the sudden sharp spikes were largely because my body didn't know what to do with the sodium. I still have fluctuations, but they're now much less dramatic.

    I'll look at the sodium if I'm trying to pinpoint a water weight spike, but otherwise it's not worth my brain space.
  • CharlieBeansmomTracey
    CharlieBeansmomTracey Posts: 7,682 Member
    edited February 2018
    your sodium intake should be at least 5000 miligrams a day easily....Im always at around 6 thousand...This is a closely guarded health and fat loss secret....especially if you exercise correctly. Be careful of what salt you do buy....Make sure its clean....I have experimented with this for years....

    why should his sodium be that high? unless hes doing keto and how does that much sodium going to help fat loss? fat is lost in a deficit not an overabundance of sodium

    Ignore this one...he posts the most ridiculous things on random posts. I smell a troll...

    edited to delete
  • mortuseon_
    mortuseon_ Posts: 257 Member
    edited February 2018
    your sodium intake should be at least 5000 miligrams a day easily....Im always at around 6 thousand...This is a closely guarded health and fat loss secret....especially if you exercise correctly. Be careful of what salt you do buy....Make sure its clean....I have experimented with this for years....

    why should his sodium be that high? unless hes doing keto and how does that much sodium going to help fat loss? fat is lost in a deficit not an overabundance of sodium

    Ignore this one...he posts the most ridiculous things on random posts. I smell a troll...

    first of all Im not a he and secondly not a troll been an active community member for 3 years so. and its not ridiculous do some research and you will see. what do I post thats ridiculous? name one thing.

    @CharlieBeansmomTracey I believe the person is telling you to ignore superhighsodium man, not telling people to ignore you.
  • StevefromMichigan
    StevefromMichigan Posts: 462 Member
    kazgorat1 wrote: »

    Did you bother to read the article that you quoted? It sets that 1500 level for people who are 51 and older, African Americans, diabetics, people with hypertension, and people with kidney disease. AKA: Groups who are more prone to hypertension or kidney issues.

    It is *not* a general limit for most of the population.

    b]American Heart Association:[/b]

    The American Heart Association recommends no more than 2,300 milligrams (mgs) a day and an ideal limit of no more than 1,500 mg per day for most adults.

    Harvard Medical:

    Given that the majority of US adults are at risk of developing health problems related to salt consumption, nutrition experts at Harvard School of Public Health, the American Heart Association, and the Center for Science in the Public Interest have called for the U.S. government to lower the upper limit of daily recommended sodium intake from 2,300 milligrams to 1,500 milligrams per day (2/3 teaspoon of salt).

    World Health Organization

    Key facts
    High sodium consumption (>2 grams/day, equivalent to 5 g salt/day) and insufficient potassium intake (less than 3.5 grams/day) contribute to high blood pressure and increase the risk of heart disease and stroke.
    The main source of sodium in our diet is salt, although it can come from sodium glutamate, used as a condiment in many parts of the world.
    Most people consume too much salt—on average 9–12 grams per day, or around twice the recommended maximum level of intake.
    Salt intake of less than 5 grams per day for adults helps to reduce blood pressure and risk of cardiovascular disease, stroke and coronary heart attack. The principal benefit of lowering salt intake is a corresponding reduction in high blood pressure.
    WHO Member States have agreed to reduce the global population’s intake of salt by a relative 30% by 2025.
    Reducing salt intake has been identified as one of the most cost-effective measures countries can take to improve population health outcomes. Key salt reduction measures will generate an extra year of healthy life for a cost that falls below the average annual income or gross domestic product per person.
    An estimated 2.5 million deaths could be prevented each year if global salt consumption were reduced to the recommended level.
  • 2baninja
    2baninja Posts: 519 Member
    5000mg of salt is way too much, unless maybe you're running a marathon on the desert.

    Back to the question the OP asked, you might be able to change the amount if you spring for the premium package, but not sure. But are you really loosing that much salt? Just because you are loosing a pound in weight, doesn't mean you are loosing that much salt. Do you taste the salt that is left on your skin, or see the salt stains on your clothes.

    I know there are tests you can do to find out how much salt you're really using, but I don't know much about them.
  • StevefromMichigan
    StevefromMichigan Posts: 462 Member
    kazgorat1 wrote: »

    Did you bother to read the article that you quoted? It sets that 1500 level for people who are 51 and older, African Americans, diabetics, people with hypertension, and people with kidney disease. AKA: Groups who are more prone to hypertension or kidney issues.

    It is *not* a general limit for most of the population.

    Actually, health professionals are pushing for the limit to be lowered to 1500 mg as the new standard.
  • CharlieBeansmomTracey
    CharlieBeansmomTracey Posts: 7,682 Member
    kazgorat1 wrote: »
    kazgorat1 wrote: »

    Did you bother to read the article that you quoted? It sets that 1500 level for people who are 51 and older, African Americans, diabetics, people with hypertension, and people with kidney disease. AKA: Groups who are more prone to hypertension or kidney issues.

    It is *not* a general limit for most of the population.

    Actually, health professionals are pushing for the limit to be lowered to 1500 mg as the new standard.

    and what about those who are on a keto diet that have their sodium around 3500-5000mg? are you saying its too much for them?
  • CharlieBeansmomTracey
    CharlieBeansmomTracey Posts: 7,682 Member
    mortuseon_ wrote: »
    your sodium intake should be at least 5000 miligrams a day easily....Im always at around 6 thousand...This is a closely guarded health and fat loss secret....especially if you exercise correctly. Be careful of what salt you do buy....Make sure its clean....I have experimented with this for years....

    why should his sodium be that high? unless hes doing keto and how does that much sodium going to help fat loss? fat is lost in a deficit not an overabundance of sodium

    Ignore this one...he posts the most ridiculous things on random posts. I smell a troll...

    first of all Im not a he and secondly not a troll been an active community member for 3 years so. and its not ridiculous do some research and you will see. what do I post thats ridiculous? name one thing.

    @CharlieBeansmomTracey I believe the person is telling you to ignore superhighsodium man, not telling people to ignore you.

    well if thats the case then I apologize for misconstruing what was said.
  • StevefromMichigan
    StevefromMichigan Posts: 462 Member
    Well, it would appear that the medical professionals are saying that.

    If you are at risk for hypertension, or have a family history of heart disease or stroke, you should be very careful how much sodium you are consuming.
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