Gaining weight eating high carbs???
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Carbs are the cocaine of foods!23
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Mitchwhite01 wrote: »Carbs are the cocaine of foods!
Wut?4 -
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sammyj19902015 wrote: »Also they only way you gain 5lbs after eating a bowl of pasta is if that bowl of pasta weighs 5lbs. There are probably around 20 servings of pasta in 5lbs of cooked pasta and at around 200 calories a serving that would be 4000 calories. If your story is true, carbs aren't the problem...
If you drink 5lbs of water with out going to the bathroom you will gain 5lbs, do you blame water for your weight gain?
Sometimes we have to look at things logically instead of panicking and blaming everything under the sun instead of watching what we eat.
I had a packet pasta of batchelors pasta n sauce made with water only, I’m not saying it’s made me gain ‘fat’ I was just wondering why pasta could make me bloated and gain on scales (again only know what I weighed after because I went to slimming world to get my weekly weigh in done)
Have you considered wheat intollerance as a possibility?
My intolerance transitioned into a full blown allergy and I can't have anything containing wheat now, but several years ago I would look seven months pregnanat after ingesting pasta or bread.
Look into it. I underestimated the symptoms and the damage caused by the particular enzyme I have problems with (it's not gluten) lead to a cow's milk allergy. I can't have dairy now at all. My organism can't process it.
I hope that's not what you are having but better to be on the safe side. You could try elimination. Whole 30 is a good way to start. Good luck!
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sammyj19902015 wrote: »I’m wondering if there are any experts on here that can tell me why I gain so much weight by eating carbs??
I’ve been doing low carb diet and lost 5lb last week. I know this is water weight but still a good loss for me. Kept to it all last week until yesterday, I had a huge carb craving which then made me eat 1 round of white bread, lots of chocolate then had a small portion of lasagne and a small portion of shepherds pie for dinner. Got up this morning for my weigh in and I have gained 2.5lb. I’m back in focus on low carb now but just wondering if anyone knows why carbs just DONT agree with me? I have tested previously that eating a bowl of pasta can make me gain up to 5lb after I’ve eaten it? Anyone have any idea why? Thanks
As mentioned, it's water weight.
Your body can store energy in two ways - glycogen (a type of carbohydrate somewhat functionally akin to plant starch) and fat. It prefers to store carbohydrates as glycogen, because it's more energetically favorable versus synthesizing and later breaking down fat. Your body stores glycogen in muscle and liver.
The thing with glycogen is that it's water soluble, unlike fat, and so as you increase the glycogen content of the liver and muscle, the cells must also take up enough water to balance their osmolarity (the amount of "stuff" dissolved in their fluid compared to the fluid outside the cell). There are other things that have similar effects for the same ultimate reason - for example, exercise-induced muscle repair also draws fluid into muscles, and increased sodium intake will increase your blood volume.
I've easily had 10 lb gains in a single day from going from a glycogen depleted (and somewhat dehydrated) state to a carb loaded state.5 -
cornflake_2 wrote: »You've received a lot of great advice from many people here and I'm sure the answers to help you achieve your goals are contained within it. That said, the following quote struck me:sammyj19902015 wrote: »I track my calories everyday and have been well below them until yesterday which I was on my allowance
I don't know how large a calorie deficit you're on and for how long you've been dieting at this deficit but I can tell you from personal experience that prolonged dieting can mess up your metabolism and literally bring your weight loss to a screeching halt! I lost 50 lbs in 5 months on an extreme calorie deficit and then the weight loss slowed to a crawl to the point where it stopped completely even though I was still in 500 calories/day deficit. My Metabolism compensated for the extended deficit and literally put the brakes on weight loss. Still on my significant calorie deficit, it took me 4 months of zero weight loss and lots of research to realize what had happened and how to reset it. I began eating at maintenance level to even a slight surplus (10%) for about a month. Over that time I boosted my calories/day up by 1000-1500/day and gained only 5 lbs in total over the whole month. My metabolism had reset and when I went back into a moderate (20%) calorie deficit, I began losing weight again at a health and consistent rate.
The moral of this story is that calorie deficit dieting should be short term, intermittent with healthly weight maintenance eating to preserve the function of your metabolism and help you reach your goals faster.
Hope this helps, good luck!
she saysKept to it all last week until yesterday
I’ve actually been healthy eating/dieting for the last 12 years but still trying to find something that works for me, I’m looking for good advice not *kitten* comments which I feel I’m getting off a few of you!
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sammyj19902015 wrote: »...I’ve done Cambridge diet, weightwatchers, slimming world, low carb, calorie counting and tried to healthy eat on my own so come on tell me what actually works??...
Consume less calories than you expend on a consistent, ongoing basis. It's that simple.7 -
Dessilicious wrote: »sammyj19902015 wrote: »Also they only way you gain 5lbs after eating a bowl of pasta is if that bowl of pasta weighs 5lbs. There are probably around 20 servings of pasta in 5lbs of cooked pasta and at around 200 calories a serving that would be 4000 calories. If your story is true, carbs aren't the problem...
If you drink 5lbs of water with out going to the bathroom you will gain 5lbs, do you blame water for your weight gain?
Sometimes we have to look at things logically instead of panicking and blaming everything under the sun instead of watching what we eat.
I had a packet pasta of batchelors pasta n sauce made with water only, I’m not saying it’s made me gain ‘fat’ I was just wondering why pasta could make me bloated and gain on scales (again only know what I weighed after because I went to slimming world to get my weekly weigh in done)
Have you considered wheat intollerance as a possibility?
My intolerance transitioned into a full blown allergy and I can't have anything containing wheat now, but several years ago I would look seven months pregnanat after ingesting pasta or bread.
Look into it. I underestimated the symptoms and the damage caused by the particular enzyme I have problems with (it's not gluten) lead to a cow's milk allergy. I can't have dairy now at all. My organism can't process it.
I hope that's not what you are having but better to be on the safe side. You could try elimination. Whole 30 is a good way to start. Good luck!
Thank you!! Someone who I find isn’t patronising and actually read my post properly!! I have considered this as my sister is also wheat intolerant. When I eat white bread/ pasta based things my stomach literally bloats to make me look as pregnant as I was with my daughter. It also gives me bad stomach pains which I know is wind. Which is why I tried this low carb thing in the 1st place, I’ve had no bloating and no wind for the 13 days that I did it. I just wanted someone with the same experience as me to perhaps give me some ideas which you have. I’m not so thick that I think I’ve 2.5lb of fat in one day, I’m not so thick I don’t understand that if I go on a low carb diet then eat carbs I’m going to gain water of course I know that!! And I also know how to diet/healthy eat but I wanted a bit of advice on what to do because I’m struggling and I’m sorry MFP but some of the responses I’ve had on here have totally put me off using it, at the end of the day it looks like I’m NOT the thick one it’s just that you guys don’t read..... and with some of your messages I’d advise you not to come across so rude because you ‘know it alls’ actually put people off doing it... which is a shame
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sammyj19902015 wrote: »Because there are so many f**king know it alls I actually don’t know who to believe!! I’ve dieted or ‘healthy eaten’ since I was 16 I’m now 28 and I’m still struggling with my weight. I’ve done Cambridge diet, weightwatchers, slimming world, low carb, calorie counting and tried to healthy eat on my own so come on tell me what actually works?? I don’t weigh myself straight after I’ve eaten I’m not that thick?! But when I went slimming world I had pasta for my lunch and weighed in at 5lb heavier so stop telling me things I already know, I’m trying to find what suits me and atm most of you are telling what I already know. Don’t tell me that I don’t want it hard enough because trust me in my heart of hearts I know I do but I can’t help but ‘binge eat’ and what I really need to do is find out why I do that! No it’s not stress, no it’s not emotional, no it’s not restrictive diets. I’m addicted to food, I have the same feeling over food when I want it as I do with a cigarette and until I have it it won’t subside. So someone now help me??
Believe those who have results to show for it.
If carbs were causing people to gain weight without being in a calorie surplus you wouldn't see so many success stories here of people who didn't restrict carbs and lost a lot.
It looks like your problem is not the carbs, or the food, it's the scale. This can be tackled in a couple of ways:
Either step on the scale only once a month, or weigh yourself daily and use a trending app. I like the second choice better because normalizes daily water weigh fluctuations and gives you a trending weight. At the end of the month you can look at your chart and see how silly it is to worry about fluctuations, which naturally happen for several reasons including eating a high carb and/or a high sodium meal.
Two days ago I had a blip up on the scale of 7 pounds after starting a new fitness program. It didn't freak me out because I knew I would just go down naturally later, and it did, today I'm the lightest I've been this week. Freaking out about these blips is like freaking out about an increase on the scale when you step on it wearing a backpack. The backpack didn't make you suddenly fatter, it's just a temporary increase unrelated to the amount of fat you have.
ETA: if certain products are causing you pain, then that's a different issue you need to explore with your doctor.10 -
Maybe this will help. It takes 3500 calories to gain one pound of fat.
So if you crave pasta, but know that eating pasta will make you blow up like a balloon due to glycogen replenishment and the associated water weight, you can safely eat 1000 calories of pasta, or however many you can fit in your calorie budget. Then tell yourself firmly, "Now I will weigh five pounds more, according to the scale, but I know that since I only ate 1000 calories worth of pasta, the weight gain is only temporary because physics is a real thing and you can only gain a third of a pound from that many calories."
Then step off the scale and carry on. Eventually the temporary weight will go, and in the meantime you don't have to worry because you know your intake.
Build treats into your plan so you don't feel deprived and need to binge.
There are a couple of tricks I use to make myself contented with one serving of food instead of wanting to eat more.
One is to limit the amount of time I spend eating. When I'm done, I get up, and I go do something else, which doesn't allow me to eat at the same time. It's difficult to binge on pasta while taking a walk or doing Zumba. My husband is a very slow eater, and I noticed that when we eat together, I would finish and then get bored and hungry while waiting for him to finish, then have seconds to keep him company. As much as I love slow meals with conversation, my sanity required me to tell him that after a reasonable length of time, I'm out. If he wants to take an hour and a half to finish his food, he can finish by himself.
Another trick is to remind myself that I can have more tomorrow. It takes a while to make yourself really believe this, but when you get the hang of it, it really works, because it gives you something to look forward to.0 -
sammyj19902015 wrote: »Dessilicious wrote: »sammyj19902015 wrote: »Also they only way you gain 5lbs after eating a bowl of pasta is if that bowl of pasta weighs 5lbs. There are probably around 20 servings of pasta in 5lbs of cooked pasta and at around 200 calories a serving that would be 4000 calories. If your story is true, carbs aren't the problem...
If you drink 5lbs of water with out going to the bathroom you will gain 5lbs, do you blame water for your weight gain?
Sometimes we have to look at things logically instead of panicking and blaming everything under the sun instead of watching what we eat.
I had a packet pasta of batchelors pasta n sauce made with water only, I’m not saying it’s made me gain ‘fat’ I was just wondering why pasta could make me bloated and gain on scales (again only know what I weighed after because I went to slimming world to get my weekly weigh in done)
Have you considered wheat intollerance as a possibility?
My intolerance transitioned into a full blown allergy and I can't have anything containing wheat now, but several years ago I would look seven months pregnanat after ingesting pasta or bread.
Look into it. I underestimated the symptoms and the damage caused by the particular enzyme I have problems with (it's not gluten) lead to a cow's milk allergy. I can't have dairy now at all. My organism can't process it.
I hope that's not what you are having but better to be on the safe side. You could try elimination. Whole 30 is a good way to start. Good luck!
Thank you!! Someone who I find isn’t patronising and actually read my post properly!! I have considered this as my sister is also wheat intolerant. When I eat white bread/ pasta based things my stomach literally bloats to make me look as pregnant as I was with my daughter. It also gives me bad stomach pains which I know is wind. Which is why I tried this low carb thing in the 1st place, I’ve had no bloating and no wind for the 13 days that I did it. I just wanted someone with the same experience as me to perhaps give me some ideas which you have. I’m not so thick that I think I’ve 2.5lb of fat in one day, I’m not so thick I don’t understand that if I go on a low carb diet then eat carbs I’m going to gain water of course I know that!! And I also know how to diet/healthy eat but I wanted a bit of advice on what to do because I’m struggling and I’m sorry MFP but some of the responses I’ve had on here have totally put me off using it, at the end of the day it looks like I’m NOT the thick one it’s just that you guys don’t read..... and with some of your messages I’d advise you not to come across so rude because you ‘know it alls’ actually put people off doing it... which is a shame
Unless I missed something, or you have more than the 2 threads on the subject that I'm aware of, your OP never mentioned:
carbs cause you pain
there were any issues with carbs beyond your current experience consuming them after keto
you have a family history of wheat intolerance
I'm sure your responses would have been 100% different with this info. What I saw was, "how can I not fall off the wagon?" and "why did I gain weight after eating carbs?", so I thought those were the questions you wanted answered.
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Mitchwhite01 wrote: »Carbs are the cocaine of foods!
False. It's cookie butter.6 -
sammyj19902015 wrote: »...I’ve done Cambridge diet, weightwatchers, slimming world, low carb, calorie counting and tried to healthy eat on my own so come on tell me what actually works??...
Consume less calories than you expend on a consistent, ongoing basis. It's that simple.
^ THIS
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sammyj19902015 wrote: »Dessilicious wrote: »sammyj19902015 wrote: »Also they only way you gain 5lbs after eating a bowl of pasta is if that bowl of pasta weighs 5lbs. There are probably around 20 servings of pasta in 5lbs of cooked pasta and at around 200 calories a serving that would be 4000 calories. If your story is true, carbs aren't the problem...
If you drink 5lbs of water with out going to the bathroom you will gain 5lbs, do you blame water for your weight gain?
Sometimes we have to look at things logically instead of panicking and blaming everything under the sun instead of watching what we eat.
I had a packet pasta of batchelors pasta n sauce made with water only, I’m not saying it’s made me gain ‘fat’ I was just wondering why pasta could make me bloated and gain on scales (again only know what I weighed after because I went to slimming world to get my weekly weigh in done)
Have you considered wheat intollerance as a possibility?
My intolerance transitioned into a full blown allergy and I can't have anything containing wheat now, but several years ago I would look seven months pregnanat after ingesting pasta or bread.
Look into it. I underestimated the symptoms and the damage caused by the particular enzyme I have problems with (it's not gluten) lead to a cow's milk allergy. I can't have dairy now at all. My organism can't process it.
I hope that's not what you are having but better to be on the safe side. You could try elimination. Whole 30 is a good way to start. Good luck!
Thank you!! Someone who I find isn’t patronising and actually read my post properly!! I have considered this as my sister is also wheat intolerant. When I eat white bread/ pasta based things my stomach literally bloats to make me look as pregnant as I was with my daughter. It also gives me bad stomach pains which I know is wind. Which is why I tried this low carb thing in the 1st place, I’ve had no bloating and no wind for the 13 days that I did it. I just wanted someone with the same experience as me to perhaps give me some ideas which you have. I’m not so thick that I think I’ve 2.5lb of fat in one day, I’m not so thick I don’t understand that if I go on a low carb diet then eat carbs I’m going to gain water of course I know that!! And I also know how to diet/healthy eat but I wanted a bit of advice on what to do because I’m struggling and I’m sorry MFP but some of the responses I’ve had on here have totally put me off using it, at the end of the day it looks like I’m NOT the thick one it’s just that you guys don’t read..... and with some of your messages I’d advise you not to come across so rude because you ‘know it alls’ actually put people off doing it... which is a shame
If all you wanted was someone to agree with you, instead of providing factual information, you should have just said so.11 -
Well tbh it’s quite hard to explain over a message and some answers I got were from people just not reading the question properly, thank you for all your replies but I definitely won’t be posting again
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sammyj19902015 wrote: »Well tbh it’s quite hard to explain over a message and some answers I got were from people just not reading the question properly, thank you for all your replies but I definitely won’t be posting again
But will you be taking the advice you've got?3 -
Yes and no, yes the fact that I need patience and not to rush but also going to stick with staying off pasta and white bread due to the pains/bloating ect I get but not to a so low carb diet as it just doesn’t suit me0
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sammyj19902015 wrote: »Dessilicious wrote: »sammyj19902015 wrote: »Also they only way you gain 5lbs after eating a bowl of pasta is if that bowl of pasta weighs 5lbs. There are probably around 20 servings of pasta in 5lbs of cooked pasta and at around 200 calories a serving that would be 4000 calories. If your story is true, carbs aren't the problem...
If you drink 5lbs of water with out going to the bathroom you will gain 5lbs, do you blame water for your weight gain?
Sometimes we have to look at things logically instead of panicking and blaming everything under the sun instead of watching what we eat.
I had a packet pasta of batchelors pasta n sauce made with water only, I’m not saying it’s made me gain ‘fat’ I was just wondering why pasta could make me bloated and gain on scales (again only know what I weighed after because I went to slimming world to get my weekly weigh in done)
Have you considered wheat intollerance as a possibility?
My intolerance transitioned into a full blown allergy and I can't have anything containing wheat now, but several years ago I would look seven months pregnanat after ingesting pasta or bread.
Look into it. I underestimated the symptoms and the damage caused by the particular enzyme I have problems with (it's not gluten) lead to a cow's milk allergy. I can't have dairy now at all. My organism can't process it.
I hope that's not what you are having but better to be on the safe side. You could try elimination. Whole 30 is a good way to start. Good luck!
Thank you!! Someone who I find isn’t patronising and actually read my post properly!! I have considered this as my sister is also wheat intolerant. When I eat white bread/ pasta based things my stomach literally bloats to make me look as pregnant as I was with my daughter. It also gives me bad stomach pains which I know is wind. Which is why I tried this low carb thing in the 1st place, I’ve had no bloating and no wind for the 13 days that I did it. I just wanted someone with the same experience as me to perhaps give me some ideas which you have. I’m not so thick that I think I’ve 2.5lb of fat in one day, I’m not so thick I don’t understand that if I go on a low carb diet then eat carbs I’m going to gain water of course I know that!! And I also know how to diet/healthy eat but I wanted a bit of advice on what to do because I’m struggling and I’m sorry MFP but some of the responses I’ve had on here have totally put me off using it, at the end of the day it looks like I’m NOT the thick one it’s just that you guys don’t read..... and with some of your messages I’d advise you not to come across so rude because you ‘know it alls’ actually put people off doing it... which is a shame
Read your post properly? You made no mentions of pain, family history of wheat intolerance or any of that...literally, your entire post was focused on the scale and why you gained weight from having a higher carb day...5 -
sammyj19902015 wrote: »Yes and no, yes the fact that I need patience and not to rush but also going to stick with staying off pasta and white bread due to the pains/bloating ect I get but not to a so low carb diet as it just doesn’t suit me
Low carb doesn't have to be keto or Atkins. Low carb is anything under 150g a day.1 -
sammyj19902015 wrote: »Dessilicious wrote: »sammyj19902015 wrote: »Also they only way you gain 5lbs after eating a bowl of pasta is if that bowl of pasta weighs 5lbs. There are probably around 20 servings of pasta in 5lbs of cooked pasta and at around 200 calories a serving that would be 4000 calories. If your story is true, carbs aren't the problem...
If you drink 5lbs of water with out going to the bathroom you will gain 5lbs, do you blame water for your weight gain?
Sometimes we have to look at things logically instead of panicking and blaming everything under the sun instead of watching what we eat.
I had a packet pasta of batchelors pasta n sauce made with water only, I’m not saying it’s made me gain ‘fat’ I was just wondering why pasta could make me bloated and gain on scales (again only know what I weighed after because I went to slimming world to get my weekly weigh in done)
Have you considered wheat intollerance as a possibility?
My intolerance transitioned into a full blown allergy and I can't have anything containing wheat now, but several years ago I would look seven months pregnanat after ingesting pasta or bread.
Look into it. I underestimated the symptoms and the damage caused by the particular enzyme I have problems with (it's not gluten) lead to a cow's milk allergy. I can't have dairy now at all. My organism can't process it.
I hope that's not what you are having but better to be on the safe side. You could try elimination. Whole 30 is a good way to start. Good luck!
Thank you!! Someone who I find isn’t patronising and actually read my post properly...
:huh:
This response you're so happy with literally has nothing to do with your OP. Nothing at all. As such, it all but shows that that poster did not read your post properly. Everyone pointing out that reintroducing carbs (along with eating more food than apparently usual) made you retain water are the ones that clearly read your OP properly.
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